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Re: The Devil Can’t Curse What God Has Blessed! by Nobody: 3:25pm On Mar 10, 2020
nlPoster:



nairalanders, you see yourselves?

Where are those redpillers again? They all seem to have gone incommunicado, I wonder why.

ma'am, you should have put this thread in romance section so the folks there can discuss it, perhaps someone would have good advice for the person.

No thanks sir/ma'am.
I'm good.
The person, although deactivated from one of his several monikers, is still on Nairaland and sees this.
I chose a neutral section of N.L. on purpose.
My ultimate message is about the "useless-ness" of wishing/praying evil on God's children.
Re: The Devil Can’t Curse What God Has Blessed! by Nobody: 3:28pm On Mar 10, 2020
MrBrownJay1:


i am writing TRUTHFULLY about the demons you guys follow.... without being blinded by religion or some book written by other men thousand of years ago... maybe you should do the same to regain your mind.

the only person who creates a hostile environment are the gullible people who believe in an invisible man in the sky, while praying to fix the world instead of doing something about it. now, one of the bastard in robes you guys follow is even claiming miracle to fix covid-19... charlatans the lot of them.

Goodbye Mr. Jay.
Thank you for your "closing remarks" on this your "exit the thread" speech.
You have to release that rage and gain peace.
Will be praying for you...sincerely.
Re: The Devil Can’t Curse What God Has Blessed! by Nobody: 3:29pm On Mar 10, 2020
Makschinchin:


I used to be scared of this before until the Lord sent His Word to me concerning this and opened the eyes of my understanding to it. This was around Feb last year.. I even wrote it down in my note as attached kiss

Quite interesting.
Re: The Devil Can’t Curse What God Has Blessed! by MrBrownJay1(m): 4:51pm On Mar 10, 2020
Dasani:
Goodbye Mr. Jay.
Thank you for your "closing remarks" on this your "exit the thread" speech.
You have to release that rage and gain peace.
Will be praying for you...sincerely.

this is not rage, its called COMMON SENSE
pray for yourself, people like me dont need help, you brainwashed follow-follow donkeys are the ones who do....thats why you foolishly go to church every sundays hoping to get favors/miracles from that invisible man in the sky, while living miserable lives.
Re: The Devil Can’t Curse What God Has Blessed! by Nobody: 4:51pm On Mar 11, 2020
Found another interesting Q and A and wanted to share it.


Can Someone Place A Curse On Me For Bad Things To Happen?


Dr. Roger Barrier Preach It, Teach It


Editor's Note: Pastor Roger Barrier's "Ask Roger" column regularly appears at Preach It, Teach It. Every week at Crosswalk, Dr. Barrier puts nearly 40 years of experience in the pastorate to work answering questions of doctrine or practice for laypeople, or giving advice on church leadership issues. Email him your questions at roger@preachitteachit.org.

Dear Roger,

What does the Bible say about cursing? And by cursing I mean, when someone says something bad is going to happen to you. That kind of cursing, cursing your future.

Sincerely, Liiz



Dear Liiz,

When we think of curses, many of us immediately think of Voodoo. We picture someone pushing pins in little dolls which represent those they hate so that bad things can come upon them. We think of persons casting spells.

However, Voodoo is much more than that. Voodoo a religion practiced chiefly in the Caribbean countries, especially in Haiti. It is a mixture of Roman Catholic rituals and the animism and magic of slaves from West Africa. Those who practice Voodoo believe that God rules over a multitude of local deities and deified ancestors, and saints, who communicate with dreams, trances, and ritual practices.

In the Bible, curses and spells are forbidden practices that extend far beyond the practices of Voodoo (Deuteronomy 18:10-12).

As a pastor, I've received quite a number of curses--those that I know about and those that I don't--which statistically, I assume outnumber the former by many fold.

To curse is to wish that bad things happen to someone or to something.

On the other hand, to bless is to wish that good things happen to someone or to something.

One Sunday evening, I had this overwhelming dread that I would never see another Sunday. The sense of death was overwhelming. Each day was agony. I was on the exercise bike on Thursday peddling furiously when the phone rang. One of our counselors had just finished a session when a woman confessed that she and her friends in a witches' coven had prayed a death curse on me the previous Sunday night.

I was overwhelmed with relief. I now knew what the problem was and I knew how to handle it. I climbed off the bike, fell to my knees and prayed for the Holy Spirit to cancel any curses or demonic attacks placed against me. I asked Him to build a hedge of protection around me to protect me from any evil Satanic intention to harm my family or me. The dread disappeared.

I have no doubt that we can postulate a number of theological frameworks to reconcile the experiences like those I mentioned above with Biblical truth.

Let me share a few well-known theological construct that guarantees Christians that they need not worry about curses and Satanic attacks:

"Nothing can separate us from God's love" (Romans 8:37-39), and, "greater is he that is in us (the Holy Spirit) than he (Satan) who is in the world (1 John 4:4). This theological construct assures us that God's love for us is never in doubt and that the Holy Spirit is greater than Satan. Therefore, we need not concern ourselves with things like curses and spells and Satanic interference. Upon closer examination, however, what these verses don't declare is that we are free from Satan's attacks and demonic curses.

My theological construct (and you certainly don't have to agree with it) is that we face a devastating a spiritual battle. We do need to be concerned with such things. After all, Peter reminds us: " Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith… " (1 Peter 5:8-9).

We must consider that we have a demonic adversary who has a backpack full of dirty and deceitful spiritual tools designed to inflict harm and destruction upon unsuspecting Christians.

God gives us a number of spiritual tools to resist, incapacitate and frustrate Satan in his attacks against us. I will mention them momentarily.

If we define "curse" as wishing bad things to come to someone or to something then I suppose that we can consider the death threats I've received over the years as curses. I own two bullet-proof vests. No one told ever me told me that I would need even one. Death threats aren't over in one week.

I remember preaching for over six months in my new vest while living in fear that Bill J would make good on his threat to kill me. He was angry with me for allowing his wife to give an offering to our church. Unfortunately, I was not the only one he was cursing.

One night, Bill J began a murder spree that killed two men in Sierra Vista and was on his way to Tucson to kill again when the police encircled him and he committed suicide in his car. The police found 9 guns and 400 rounds of ammunition in the front seat--and a bazooka at his house. Fortunately, this undeserved cursedid not come to rest on me.

Few of us have curses as dramatic as Bill J had for me and eleven others.

However, let's assume that there have been times when we have hurt or disappointed people. Depending upon how much we hurt them and their ability to forgive, they may consciously or unconsciously wish harm upon us.

The Bible is full of cursing. The word "curse" appears almost 200 times in the Bible. Therefore, it is a significant issue for us to address.

The Bible begins with God Almighty doing a lot of cursing.

We don't read three chapters into Genesis before God Almighty began to curse. He cursed Satan for tempting Adam and Eve into sin (Genesis 3:17). He indirectly cursed all mankind when He cursed the ground so that weeds would sprout and man would work hard and sweat profusely in order to make a living from the cursed earth (Genesis 3:17-19). In Genesis 4:10-12 God placed a curse upon Cain for killing his brother. All of these curses were well deserved.

As we read through the Bible we quickly discover that God provided blessings to those who obeyed Him and cursed those who disobeyed Him.


Part 2 Continued on Next Post......

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Re: The Devil Can’t Curse What God Has Blessed! by Nobody: 4:52pm On Mar 11, 2020
Part 2


To curse is to wish that bad things happen to someone or something. God cursed only as a punishment for not obeying him.

On the other hand, to bless is to wish that good things happen to someone or to something. God promised blessings to those who carefully followed His commands.

Deuteronomy 27-30 is a great example of the God who both blesses and curses.

InDeuteronomy 28, God announced to Israel that if they fully obeyed His commands He would pour out great blessings upon them. They would receive the following blessings: safety in travel; healthy children; bountiful crops; increased live stock, abundant food; victory over enemies; full and overflowing barns; success with all of their endeavors, successful investments; abundance of rain; and primacy over all other nations.

It doesn’t get much better than that.

On the other hand, God was just as determined to bring curses upon Israel if they ignored His commandments: "However, if you do not obey the Lordyour God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you" (Deuteronomy 28:15).

God is not the only one in the Bible who pronounced curses. Most of the curses in the Bible involve one person cursing another.

Noah cursed his son Ham when Ham peeked at him while he was drunk and naked (Genesis 9:18-27).


Shimei cursed and spit on David as David was fleeing Jerusalem ahead of Absalom's army of rebellion. Shimei was upset because David took over the Kingship from the family of Saul (2 Samuel 16:5-8 and1 Kings 2:32-46). Joab wanted to kill Shimei on the spot; but, David stopped him by admitting that the curse was deserved. (By the way, David never got over the curse. As he laid dying he asked that Joab sever Shemi's "white-haired head" from his body.)


Intriguingly, Mrs. Job tried to get Job to curse God and die (Job 2:9;19:17). Satan prompted Mrs. Jobs pleading to her husband. This was Satan's backhanded attempt to place a curse on God.

Now, let me share with you the spiritual tools I use to protect myself from Satanic attacks--including curses. Perhaps you will find one or more of these practices helpful in navigating the spiritual waters of life.

First and foremost I pray for God to encircle me with a spiritual hedge of protection to insulate me from any personal or demonic designs. After all, if God put a hedge around Job that Satan couldn't penetrate without God's permission, then He can erect one around me. I pray Job 1:10 "Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? Thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land." I want the protection and I want the blessing of prosperity as well.

Next, I try to keep my life righteous and holy so that I open no door and give no opportunity for any curse to debilitate me in any way. I pray Proverbs 26:2 "Like a fluttering sparrow or a darting swallow, an undeserved curse does not come to rest."

Then, I try never to leave the house spiritually naked. I want to be clothed in the armor of God against any spiritual attack. I pray Ephesians 6:10-17: Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power.Put on the full armor of God, so that … when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. And pray in the Spirit on all occasions

In addition, I think of people who have hurt me. Instead of wishing them evil and harm, I try to pray for their blessing and prosperity.

After all, Jesus instructed us in Luke 6:28 to: "Bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you."

You see, if we curse those who've hurt us then we put ourselves in danger of Christ's judgment. Jesus said in Matthew 5:22 "But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sisterwill be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell."

Finally, with gratitude, I remember that sin has placed the entire world under a curse. All of us have "sinned and fallen short of God's glory" (Romans 3:23). We know that payment for our sin is death (Romans 6:23; Deuteronomy 21:23 . Fortunately, when we receive Christ as Lord and Savior, Jesus dies in our place on the cross. He takes the curse of death for us and the curse against us is now underserved. Death no longer rests upon us (Galatians 3:13).

Liiz, I have tried to deal with some of the practical out workings of curses.

I have shared some the biblical foundations and practices regarding cursing. I hope that reading my response may give you more insight into the Biblical reality concerning curses.

Sincerely, Roger


https://www.crosswalk.com/church/pastors-or-leadership/ask-roger/can-someone-place-a-curse-on-me-for-bad-things-to-happen.html
Re: The Devil Can’t Curse What God Has Blessed! by nlPoster: 5:36pm On Mar 11, 2020
Dasani:


No thanks sir/ma'am.
I'm good.
The person, although deactivated from one of his several monikers, is still on Nairaland and sees this.
I chose a neutral section of N.L. on purpose.
My ultimate message is about the "useless-ness" of wishing/praying evil on God's children.

Well, now you know the sort of idiots who abound in this place. Perhaps you were doubting it before.

They just run mouth anyhow as a break from idleness.

Here's another curse from a nairalander (dont read if you dont like graphic language),

https://www.nairaland.com/5664195/what-ur-opinions-destiny-graphic

Some folks just cant make conversation without curses and insults, many are actually not ok mentally.
Re: The Devil Can’t Curse What God Has Blessed! by Nobody: 8:24pm On Mar 11, 2020
nlPoster:


Well, now you know the sort of idiots who abound in this place. Perhaps you were doubting it before.

They just run mouth anyhow as a break from idleness.

Some folks just cant make conversation without curses and insults, many are actually not ok mentally.


Oh,
I'm not gonna call anyone names.
We all have an issue or two..or three...etc.
There are some very decent folks here, but they are like finding a "needle in a haystack".

Hope you don't mind that I removed your "curse" link when I quoted you here.
I don't think it would be appropriate to view...so I will pass on that.
The Bible tells me that presumption is "sin".
So I would be foolish...and so would others to just "deliberately" click on a link promoting "curses" (which I am trying to lesson its fear and grip on some Christians) on this here my thread.
Why walk onto a dangerously, mine-field laden, "booby-trapped" --a slang word we use in the U.S.-- street, just because it's there and expect God to protect me..when I should've been wise enough to not even look down the street in the first place?
Correct?
Does that make me mentally sound?

Anyhoo, I would love though, to hear your thoughts on the Q and A article to the pastor that I just posted if possible.
Thanks
Re: The Devil Can’t Curse What God Has Blessed! by Nobody: 12:55pm On Mar 15, 2020
Da.sani:
Found another interesting Q and A and wanted to share it.


Can Someone Place A Curse On Me For Bad Things To Happen?


Dr. Roger Barrier Preach It, Teach It


Editor's Note: Pastor Roger Barrier's "Ask Roger" column regularly appears at Preach It, Teach It. Every week at Crosswalk, Dr. Barrier puts nearly 40 years of experience in the pastorate to work answering questions of doctrine or practice for laypeople, or giving advice on church leadership issues. Email him your questions at roger@preachitteachit.org.

Dear Roger,

What does the Bible say about cursing? And by cursing I mean, when someone says something bad is going to happen to you. That kind of cursing, cursing your future.

Sincerely, Liiz



Dear Liiz,

When we think of curses, many of us immediately think of Voodoo. We picture someone pushing pins in little dolls which represent those they hate so that bad things can come upon them. We think of persons casting spells.

However, Voodoo is much more than that. Voodoo a religion practiced chiefly in the Caribbean countries, especially in Haiti. It is a mixture of Roman Catholic rituals and the animism and magic of slaves from West Africa. Those who practice Voodoo believe that God rules over a multitude of local deities and deified ancestors, and saints, who communicate with dreams, trances, and ritual practices.

In the Bible, curses and spells are forbidden practices that extend far beyond the practices of Voodoo (Deuteronomy 18:10-12).

As a pastor, I've received quite a number of curses--those that I know about and those that I don't--which statistically, I assume outnumber the former by many fold.

To curse is to wish that bad things happen to someone or to something.

On the other hand, to bless is to wish that good things happen to someone or to something.

One Sunday evening, I had this overwhelming dread that I would never see another Sunday. The sense of death was overwhelming. Each day was agony. I was on the exercise bike on Thursday peddling furiously when the phone rang. One of our counselors had just finished a session when a woman confessed that she and her friends in a witches' coven had prayed a death curse on me the previous Sunday night.

I was overwhelmed with relief. I now knew what the problem was and I knew how to handle it. I climbed off the bike, fell to my knees and prayed for the Holy Spirit to cancel any curses or demonic attacks placed against me. I asked Him to build a hedge of protection around me to protect me from any evil Satanic intention to harm my family or me. The dread disappeared.

I have no doubt that we can postulate a number of theological frameworks to reconcile the experiences like those I mentioned above with Biblical truth.

Let me share a few well-known theological construct that guarantees Christians that they need not worry about curses and Satanic attacks:

"Nothing can separate us from God's love" (Romans 8:37-39), and, "greater is he that is in us (the Holy Spirit) than he (Satan) who is in the world (1 John 4:4). This theological construct assures us that God's love for us is never in doubt and that the Holy Spirit is greater than Satan. Therefore, we need not concern ourselves with things like curses and spells and Satanic interference. Upon closer examination, however, what these verses don't declare is that we are free from Satan's attacks and demonic curses.

My theological construct (and you certainly don't have to agree with it) is that we face a devastating a spiritual battle. We do need to be concerned with such things. After all, Peter reminds us: " Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith… " (1 Peter 5:8-9).

We must consider that we have a demonic adversary who has a backpack full of dirty and deceitful spiritual tools designed to inflict harm and destruction upon unsuspecting Christians.

God gives us a number of spiritual tools to resist, incapacitate and frustrate Satan in his attacks against us. I will mention them momentarily.

If we define "curse" as wishing bad things to come to someone or to something then I suppose that we can consider the death threats I've received over the years as curses. I own two bullet-proof vests. No one told ever me told me that I would need even one. Death threats aren't over in one week.

I remember preaching for over six months in my new vest while living in fear that Bill J would make good on his threat to kill me. He was angry with me for allowing his wife to give an offering to our church. Unfortunately, I was not the only one he was cursing.

One night, Bill J began a murder spree that killed two men in Sierra Vista and was on his way to Tucson to kill again when the police encircled him and he committed suicide in his car. The police found 9 guns and 400 rounds of ammunition in the front seat--and a bazooka at his house. Fortunately, this undeserved cursedid not come to rest on me.

Few of us have curses as dramatic as Bill J had for me and eleven others.

However, let's assume that there have been times when we have hurt or disappointed people. Depending upon how much we hurt them and their ability to forgive, they may consciously or unconsciously wish harm upon us.

The Bible is full of cursing. The word "curse" appears almost 200 times in the Bible. Therefore, it is a significant issue for us to address.

The Bible begins with God Almighty doing a lot of cursing.

We don't read three chapters into Genesis before God Almighty began to curse. He cursed Satan for tempting Adam and Eve into sin (Genesis 3:17). He indirectly cursed all mankind when He cursed the ground so that weeds would sprout and man would work hard and sweat profusely in order to make a living from the cursed earth (Genesis 3:17-19). In Genesis 4:10-12 God placed a curse upon Cain for killing his brother. All of these curses were well deserved.

As we read through the Bible we quickly discover that God provided blessings to those who obeyed Him and cursed those who disobeyed Him.


Part 2 Continued on Next Post......




Re: The Devil Can’t Curse What God Has Blessed! by Nobody: 12:55pm On Mar 15, 2020
Da.sani:
Part 2


To curse is to wish that bad things happen to someone or something. God cursed only as a punishment for not obeying him.

On the other hand, to bless is to wish that good things happen to someone or to something. God promised blessings to those who carefully followed His commands.

Deuteronomy 27-30 is a great example of the God who both blesses and curses.

InDeuteronomy 28, God announced to Israel that if they fully obeyed His commands He would pour out great blessings upon them. They would receive the following blessings: safety in travel; healthy children; bountiful crops; increased live stock, abundant food; victory over enemies; full and overflowing barns; success with all of their endeavors, successful investments; abundance of rain; and primacy over all other nations.

It doesn’t get much better than that.

On the other hand, God was just as determined to bring curses upon Israel if they ignored His commandments: "However, if you do not obey the Lordyour God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you" (Deuteronomy 28:15).

God is not the only one in the Bible who pronounced curses. Most of the curses in the Bible involve one person cursing another.

Noah cursed his son Ham when Ham peeked at him while he was drunk and naked (Genesis 9:18-27).


Shimei cursed and spit on David as David was fleeing Jerusalem ahead of Absalom's army of rebellion. Shimei was upset because David took over the Kingship from the family of Saul (2 Samuel 16:5-8 and1 Kings 2:32-46). Joab wanted to kill Shimei on the spot; but, David stopped him by admitting that the curse was deserved. (By the way, David never got over the curse. As he laid dying he asked that Joab sever Shemi's "white-haired head" from his body.)


Intriguingly, Mrs. Job tried to get Job to curse God and die (Job 2:9;19:17). Satan prompted Mrs. Jobs pleading to her husband. This was Satan's backhanded attempt to place a curse on God.

Now, let me share with you the spiritual tools I use to protect myself from Satanic attacks--including curses. Perhaps you will find one or more of these practices helpful in navigating the spiritual waters of life.

First and foremost I pray for God to encircle me with a spiritual hedge of protection to insulate me from any personal or demonic designs. After all, if God put a hedge around Job that Satan couldn't penetrate without God's permission, then He can erect one around me. I pray Job 1:10 "Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? Thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land." I want the protection and I want the blessing of prosperity as well.

Next, I try to keep my life righteous and holy so that I open no door and give no opportunity for any curse to debilitate me in any way. I pray Proverbs 26:2 "Like a fluttering sparrow or a darting swallow, an undeserved curse does not come to rest."

Then, I try never to leave the house spiritually naked. I want to be clothed in the armor of God against any spiritual attack. I pray Ephesians 6:10-17: Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power.Put on the full armor of God, so that … when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. And pray in the Spirit on all occasions

In addition, I think of people who have hurt me. Instead of wishing them evil and harm, I try to pray for their blessing and prosperity.

After all, Jesus instructed us in Luke 6:28 to: "Bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you."

You see, if we curse those who've hurt us then we put ourselves in danger of Christ's judgment. Jesus said in Matthew 5:22 "But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sisterwill be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell."

Finally, with gratitude, I remember that sin has placed the entire world under a curse. All of us have "sinned and fallen short of God's glory" (Romans 3:23). We know that payment for our sin is death (Romans 6:23; Deuteronomy 21:23 . Fortunately, when we receive Christ as Lord and Savior, Jesus dies in our place on the cross. He takes the curse of death for us and the curse against us is now underserved. Death no longer rests upon us (Galatians 3:13).

Liiz, I have tried to deal with some of the practical out workings of curses.

I have shared some the biblical foundations and practices regarding cursing. I hope that reading my response may give you more insight into the Biblical reality concerning curses.

Sincerely, Roger


https://www.crosswalk.com/church/pastors-or-leadership/ask-roger/can-someone-place-a-curse-on-me-for-bad-things-to-happen.html

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