iHateDcrowd:


yeye comment.

all d so called delta & bayelsa people particularly ijaw, urhobo, ishekiri & some other heartless people of d so called Niger Delta are currently invading Benin land and converting same & renaming to theirs.

Benin people are some of d weakest & coward people I have met.

Ijaws took Gelegele from them

Took Enkewan from them

took nifor from them and about to collect Udo.

Itshekiri is about to collect Ologbo community from Benins using the Iyasele of Warri .When you see weaponry of the Itshekiri, you will know Nigeria will one day fight ethnic fight that even Rwanda will be a joke. Benins are currently being decimated at Ologbo by the Itshekiri militant.

Benin has been reduce to 7 local government but in reality it is only 2 local government Benin has. you will find most benins in Oredo & Egor .

the remaining 5 is occupied by Ijaw, Urhobo, Itshekiri people.

As I type, Ijaws are already kidnapping people using Ikpoba River and this is a river at d very center of Benin city. Very shameful to come from this part of the world.

let me not talk about the influx of fulani bandits, northern beggars, terrorist from Mali, Sudan, Niger, etc.

This is why I so much like the Igbo man for not selling their ancestors land to non Igbo residents.

YOU JUST TYPED RUBBISH

Chatbot1234:


read
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/lagos-oba-traces-origin-to-benin/&ved=2ahUKEwiY7oiyhaDoAhVL1BoKHb4yAMwQFjABegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0zLtMOXmaXyxwH2qgumqSE&cshid=1584397785294

you guys believe that shit

AreaFada2:

The Oba was given the option to reply the court in writing or send a representative. But he decided to appear in person. A huge crowd walked with the Oba to the court.

It wasn't even the aim of Igbinedion to make Oba Erediauwa appear in court.

Remember Oba Erediauwa was educated at Cambridge (Law degree) and previously a consummate permanent secretary at Gowon's Cabinet office. Effectively head of the technocratic machinery of the military government back then. He did things thoroughly or not do at all.

It was out of great reverence to his father Oba Akenzua that he didn't strip Igbinedion of his Esama title. Igbinedion was made Esama by Oba Akenzua.
Just putting it in perspective.

Wooow
Thanks

tammie24:
you guys believe that shit

and you believe all the shitt you have been saying also

Chatbot1234:


and you believe all the shitt you have been saying also

shit about what?
You guys are the masters of shit

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tammie24:
in your dreams...

Oba of Lagos?

so u dont know Lagos was under Benin empire??...'eko' is an Edo name ,not Yoruba

hisexcellency34:
That was during election campaign when Obaseki was a nobody. He won't kneel to greet him now

Oga during Obaseki's campaign he wasn't a King yet. Obaseki already won the governorship but yet to sworn it. The pic is from the recent Igue festival where the Ewere leave is distributed. That is last years precisely December 2019 pix

GidiWoodsMan:


Obaseki knelt because he's a Benin man and quite stupid too. An Esan or Etsako governor would never kneel for that dude

It seems u dont even know your people. First the Esans are from Benin. second Esan do not have kingdom rather dukedom and all Esans Enigies or onojies are children of Oba of Benin. Thirdly, Esan onojies are under Oba of Benin and they pay royal homage to the Oba. Fourthly, read history and educate urself.

yarimo:
let oba of Benin do anyhow first, that is when he will know that. kneeling down by a Governor or President is just formality.

May Ogun oba befall that your jara.

Powerintoxicate:
YOU JUST TYPED RUBBISH

See you? How will you know when you are hiding in Europe or Libya after joining cult in Benin.

Benin city is a "no mans land".

We strangers run things while you guys run away to Libya. From Okada to the most remote village in Benin is all occupied by outsiders. No benin person.

Delta state has further encroached Benin land.

All your ancestral land are being grabbed by ijaws, ishekiris, urhobos & others while you are there selling your fathers house (with graves) in the cities to """"""""""""""""'""""". Akpakpava, airport road, mission, etc them go buy all & you all will be tenant in your land until una disappear completely.

Your so called 7 local government is indigenous to owan, igbanke, yorubas, ijaws, urhobos, itshekiris, and many indigenous tribes.

Did you now see your land is a no mans land ? Una get eyes but don't see into the future. I pity una unborn generation. Tenant in his father's house.

yarimo:
let oba of Benin do anyhow first, that is when he will know that. kneeling down by a Governor or President is just formality.

becarefull what comes out of ya mouth kid.

Sewgon79:


If you don't know, maybe you should go and investigate. Do you know that any Crown Prince of Benin Kingdom need to come to Ìfẹ́ for Spiritual seclusion, before he can be crown King. Have you asked yourself why.

In history of hierarchy, the lower goes to higher for permission before being crown not other way around.

Oga if u say they go to ife, the question is where did Oduduwa come from according to Yoruba history? The Binis version that claim Oduduwa is their lost Prince Ekaladerhan who became ruler in Ile-ife is more factual than that of Yoruba claiming he fell from the sky. Until the Yorubas are able to give a factual version of Oduduwa' s history, then it remains Oduduwa is a Benin prince and this claim was even made by Oba Ewuare during his coronation speech. stop revising history.

johnmattew:
so u dont know Lagos was under Benin empire??...'eko' is an Edo name ,not Yoruba

eh
Go carry am na

Go palace tell them say na your people get the place

cyrilamx:
It seems u dont even know your people. First the Esans are from Benin. second Esan do not have kingdom rather dukedom and all Esans Enigies or onojies are children of Oba of Benin. Thirdly, Esan onojies are under Oba of Benin and they pay royal homage to the Oba. Fourthly, read history and educate urself.

Those are precolonial feudalistic arrangements that do not apply to present day political systems.

You said it yourself, it's HISTORY

Jesse25:

Even your buhari can't do any thing to d oba of Bini except say he wan die

die that was then, as for now some politicians are more dangerous than this traditional rulers

iHateDcrowd:


See you? How will you know when you are hiding in Europe or Libya after joining cult in Benin.

Benin city is a "no mans land".

We strangers run things while you guys run away to Libya. From Okada to the most remote village in Benin is all occupied by outsiders. No benin person.

Delta state has further encroached Benin land.

All your ancestral land are being grabbed by ijaws, ishekiris, urhobos & others while you are there selling your fathers house (with graves) in the cities to igbos. Akpakpava, airport road, mission, etc we go buy all & you all will be tenant in your land until una disappear completely.

Your so called 7 local government is indigenous to owan, igbanke, yorubas, ijaws, urhobos, itshekiris, and many indigenous tribes.

Did you now see your land is a no mans land ? Una get eyes but don't see into the future. I pity una unborn generation. Tenant in his father's house.

Edo state has 7 lgas?
I need to check this out.

Just checked. It has 18.
Why did u narrow it down.
Some people might think it's true.

GidiWoodsMan:


Those are precolonial feudalistic arrangements that do not apply to present day political systems.

You said it yourself, it's HISTORY

But there is incontrovertible evidence that Esan onojies are under the Benin Monarch till date and still pay homage to him.

sassysure:

Edo state has 7 lgas?
I need to check this out.

Just checked. It has 18.
Why did u narrow it down.
Some people might think it's true.

The problems with most boys today in naija is that you don't read nor listen to your own radio stations except playing stupid music , drinking & then fuuzck to stupor.

I said 7 local government that belongs to Benin speaking area of Edo state has literally been encroached by strangers from Delta state. Izon isoko urhobo ishekiri etc & they are currently outnumbering you & claiming is their land whereas there is no Benin speaking population in Delta, Bayesa , Rivers & ondo . Hope your brain got it now?

Didn't you see Ijaw asking for 5 local government from Benin land the other day? Make una dey zuor there.

By the time Fulani & other mass invaders (they're already hundreds thousands in Edo state) you all will run away from that state.

Your Odigi & Odiguetue are crying all over the media after fulani herdsmen & bandits took over their land & chased them away with sophisticated mass destruction weapons. Your youths & eithers are busy fighting & killing their own fellow Benin while their common enemies laugh at their stupidity.

Benin people don't love themselves & that is why strangers keeps invading their land.

If that energy Benin cult boys & community leaders uses to kill their fellow benins is channeled for the betterment of the city, who is that stranger that would grab land in Benin.

The same Benin we read in history having brave men is now looking like a land of sisi with senseless & runaway youths. Killing themselves over stupid cult war.

Meninmen:



What Is this one saying? If you are ignorant, then keep quite. Each state is governed by laws when it comes to Traditional institutions and I can tell you in the Edo state chieftaincy law, the governor has no power to dethrone the oba of Benin. It is not within his power. If it was, Lucky igbinedion would have done that a long time ago when he was governor and was having issues with the late oba. Even when he dragged the oba to court, the oba never appeared in court. The matter was killed b4 it even started and him and his father had to apologize to the late Oba

Stay Nairaland to argue wetin you nor know

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Chairman pls stop arguing things you absolutely know nothing about. This is federal laws and practice. The office of the Oba is under Oredo local govt and under Edo State Govt. Its not about boasting and talking gibberish. The world has changed. Army Generals and top military men are ambushed and killed who is Oba? He is an individual, if youre relying on your medicine or voodoo take it and face bokoharam let me see? Nigerians will thank you for it. All your men of God why do you think they move with heavy security? Even Buhari, before the elections what did he say? He is just an individual, those that stole money, its easy for them to pay someone 5M or 10 M to eliminate him so what are you saying? Back in the day, YES, the courts, leadership, instructions was from the office of the Oba, all that has changed. If Dasuki, that is not only Sultan of Sokoto Caliphate, but head of Muslims in Nigeria, can be dethroned by the Military administrator of Sokoto, any traditional ruler can be dethroned by the State Governor of that State. Dont argue, research it.

Bobosneh:
him matter go be like egungun be careful na express you dey go

Problem with Yorubas is because many of their their Obas are always being embarrassed and disgraced and dethroned for the past hundreds of years till date they think Oba of Benin can be treated like that lol.

Organs:
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Chairman pls stop arguing things you absolutely know nothing about. This is federal laws and practice. The office of the Oba is under Oredo local govt and under Edo State Govt. Its not about boasting and talking gibberish. The world has changed. Army Generals and top military men are ambushed and killed who is Oba? He is an individual, if youre relying on your medicine or voodoo take it and face bokoharam let me see? Nigerians will thank you for it. All your men of God why do you think they move with heavy security? Even Buhari, before the elections what did he say? He is just an individual, those that stole money, its easy for them to pay someone 5M or 10 M to eliminate him so what are you saying? Back in the day, YES, the courts, leadership, instructions was from the office of the Oba, all that has changed. If Dasuki, that is not only Sultan of Sokoto Caliphate, but head of Muslims in Nigeria, can be dethroned by the Military administrator of Sokoto, any traditional ruler can be dethroned by the State Governor of that State. Dont argue, research it.

Army general, men of God, Sultan, Buhari, Boko haram

Oga, the point of argument is if the oba of Benin can be dethroned by a State governor, not a military administrator. Stop confusing yourself. Or you don't know the difference between a state governor and a military administrator? We all know anything can happen in a military administration because they suspend the Constitution and rule by decree.

Secondly, you are not informed. Federal laws has nothing to do with running of traditional institutions in this country. The Constitution of Nigerian vests the regulation of traditional institutions on the state and each state of the federation has it's own laws for regulating the traditional institutions in their respective States. Federal laws or the president has nothing to do with it. If it was by federal laws, GEJ would Have appointed an Emir for Kano, and it wouldn't be Sanusi.

Now, I am telling you that the law passed by the Edo state of house of Assembly years back on the traditional institutions in the state does not give the state governor power to dethrone the oba of benin.


Thirldy, you are contradicting yourself. Why will an institution regulated by federal laws be under the oredo LG and under the Edo state govt?

Be informed that the palace of the Oba of Benin Is located in Oredo LGA. It's doesn't mean the office of the Oba of Benin is under oredo LGA. Secondly, traditional matters are regulated by a ministry in Edo state (Ministry of Local govt and chieftaincy affairs). It doesn't mean the state governor can dethrone the oba of Benin

Meninmen:



Army general, men of God, Sultan, Buhari, Boko haram

Oga, the point of argument is if the oba of Benin can be dethroned by a State governor, not a military administrator. Stop confusing yourself. Or you don't know the difference between a state governor and a military administrator? We all know anything can happen in a military administration because they suspend the Constitution and rule by decree.

Secondly, you are not informed. Federal laws has nothing to do with running of traditional institutions in this country. The Constitution of Nigerian vests the regulation of traditional institutions on the state and each state of the federation has it's own laws for regulating the traditional institutions in their respective States. Federal laws or the president has nothing to do with it. If it was by federal laws, GEJ would Have appointed an Emir for Kano, and it wouldn't be Sanusi.

Now, I am telling you that the law passed by the Edo state of house of Assembly years back on the traditional institutions in the state does not give the state governor power to dethrone the oba of benin.


Thirldy, you are contradicting yourself. Why will an institution regulated by federal laws be under the oredo LG and under the Edo state govt?

Be informed that the palace of the Oba of Benin Is located in Oredo LGA. It's doesn't mean the office of the Oba of Benin is under oredo LGA. Secondly, traditional matters are regulated by a ministry in Edo state (Ministry of Local govt and chieftaincy affairs). It doesn't mean the state governor can dethrone the oba of Benin

In your first paragraph, i made analogy of what obtains in Nigeria and by extension Edo State. Before now, who are you to even reply an Oba or Emir? They wielded power and authority and Men in Uniform as well. Now Yes its about Oba of Benin, the Laws of the federal Republic and by extension the constitution places the administrations of these offices within the States and local govts. I am not contradicting myself. We are basically saying the same thing. Now, you'd said in Edo State the House passed a law that prohibits the Gov from removing the Oba? Hmm, Well, i am not from Edo State and i don't know about the laws of the State so i cannot argue with you on that however, i know if there is a law like that, it will be only a caveat that says the Gov will require a vote from the House. State Govs in Nigeria has autonomous power in their states. In Kano, Ganduje first of all got the House to vote to dethrone him before going ahead to do it. Trust me, any State Gov will find a way to do what he wants to do. Like i said, and you are getting it confused. In Nigeria, when youre in power, you have a lot of power to do a lot just like the Kings, Obas, and emirs back in the day. Now, its the Governors, People in power. So, bottom line, if you are an Oba, Emir, Tor, Etsu, Shehu etc, get along with your Governor cos he is the one paying your salary and funding your lifestyle. I quote Abubakar Rimi for you, "the Traditional institutions and its head are "Servants of the Governor"!!!

MrBachelor:
Seun and co, what's the motive for bringing this to the front page. Is this an established fact or just a one-off scenario.

It seems like you guys enjoy the tribal e-war on-going on this site.

Of course they do, the tribal war fetches them a lot of traffics.

Organs:



In your first paragraph, i made analogy of what obtains in Nigeria and by extension Edo State. Before now, who are you to even reply an Oba or Emir? They wielded power and authority and Men in Uniform as well. Now Yes its about Oba of Benin, the Laws of the federal Republic and by extension the constitution places the administrations of these offices within the States and local govts. I am not contradicting myself. We are basically saying the same thing. Now, you'd said in Edo State the House passed a law that prohibits the Gov from removing the Oba? Hmm, Well, i am not from Edo State and i don't know about the laws of the State so i cannot argue with you on that however, i know if there is a law like that, it will be only a caveat that says the Gov will require a vote from the House. State Govs in Nigeria has autonomous power in their states. In Kano, Ganduje first of all got the House to vote to dethrone him before going ahead to do it. Trust me, any State Gov will find a way to do what he wants to do. Like i said, and you are getting it confused. In Nigeria, when youre in power, you have a lot of power to do a lot just like the Kings, Obas, and emirs back in the day. Now, its the Governors, People in power. So, bottom line, if you are an Oba, Emir, Tor, Etsu, Shehu etc, get along with your Governor cos he is the one paying your salary and funding your lifestyle. I quote Abubakar Rimi for you, "the Traditional institutions and its head are "Servants of the Governor"!!!

I don't like when people take arguments and expand it. Nobody is talking about not getting along with the governor. We are saying as it stands today, the Edo state governor can't dethrone the Oba of Benin whether they get along or not. The best the governor can do is to stop some funds going to the palace (not budgetary allocations)

Now, you talk about governor paying the oba. You must understand that the palace gets budgetary allocations every year and once a budget is passed, it becomes law to be obeyed.

Let's even assumes the governor stops allocation to the palace, I can tell you the oba can survive and run the palace expenses without breaking a sweat.

You said state governors can do what ever they like. You are right to some extent, but I can tell you that for the Edo state governor to dethrone the oba, it means, the law will have to be reviewed by the state house of Assembly, and I can tell you that will be a tall order.


You gave example of Kano. Kano is not Benin. They select their Emir from a list of candidates from the ruling houses. Benin doesn't operate that system. Like I told you b4, the next oba of Benin is the first son of the current oba. The oba of Benin is by birth. No governor can change that. It is not based on the whims and caprices of a sitting governor. The oba of Benin is the only first class king that is crowned this way (by birth), I stand to be corrected though.


So, leave what happened in Kano and what happens else where. I am from Edo State, though not Bini by tribe. I am Esan (Ishan). Binis don't play with their Oba.


Law or no law sef, dem never born the governor to dethrone the oba of Benin. Don't know why I am having this argument with you sef

Meninmen:



I don't like when people take arguments and expand it. Nobody is talking about not getting along with the governor. We are saying as it stands today, the Edo state governor can't dethrone the Oba of Benin whether they get along or not. The best the governor can do is to stop some funds going to the palace (not budgetary allocations)

Now, you talk about governor paying the oba. You must understand that the palace gets budgetary allocations every year and once a budget is passed, it becomes law to be obeyed.

Let's even assumes the governor stops allocation to the palace, I can tell you the oba can survive and run the palace expenses without breaking a sweat.

You said state governors can do what ever they like. You are right to some extent, but I can tell you that for the Edo state governor to dethrone the oba, it means, the law will have to be reviewed by the state house of Assembly, and I can tell you that will be a tall order.


You gave example of Kano. Kano is not Benin. They select their Emir from a list of candidates from the ruling houses. Benin doesn't operate that system. Like I told you b4, the next oba of Benin is the first son of the current oba. The oba of Benin is by birth. No governor can change that. It is not based on the whims and caprices of a sitting governor. The oba of Benin is the only first class king that is crowned this way (by birth), I stand to be corrected though.


So, leave what happened in Kano and what happens else where. I am from Edo State, though not Bini by tribe. I am Esan (Ishan). Binis don't play with their Oba.


Law or no law sef, dem never born the governor to dethrone the oba of Benin. Don't know why I am having this argument with you sef

Bros, you are arguing on what you know and feel and i am doing same. You don't have to show arrogance or think in absolute terms. FYI, i know the former speaker on a first hand basis, he is also an Oba in his locality. I also knew the former Chairman of Oredo LGA, who was also son of the former Oba. However i knew him from a distance. I will ask them questions. Take care bros.

Organs:



Bros, you are arguing on what you know and feel and i am doing same. You don't have to show arrogance or think in absolute terms. FYI, i know the former speaker on a first hand basis, he is also an Oba in his locality. I also knew the former Chairman of Oredo LGA, who was also son of the former Oba. However i knew him from a distance. I will ask them questions. Take care bros.

T

Organs:



Bros, you are arguing on what you know and feel and i am doing same. You don't have to show arrogance or think in absolute terms. FYI, i know the former speaker on a first hand basis, he is also an Oba in his locality. I also knew the former Chairman of Oredo LGA, who was also son of the former Oba. However i knew him from a distance. I will ask them questions. Take care bros.

I'm sorry if my tone sounds arrogant.

But as a correction, there is only one oba in Edo state. That is the oba of Benin. The person you referred to as an oba is probably an Enogie, or a chief never an oba.

Secondly, it's a free world. You can ask any questions from informed people on this matter.


Take care leader!

davidnazee:


All this you say still doesn’t make Ife an imperial power or Ooni an imperial majesty..
Any king can style themselves Imperial majesty..

As for comparing Benin to Ife I won’t argue that with you because you already know Ife was never an empire or a force to reckon with.

I'm not sure why I got banned yesterday for my exchange with you. I need to pay careful attention to such trend, especially when engaging you. Someone seem to be dead-scared of what I will say next. Lol.

Having said that, your logic appears to be a very interesting one, and it is as follows:

(1) You seem to believe that Benin kingdom once achieved some imperial status.

(2) The expert/academic submissions I had put forward states unequivocally that the kings of Benin kingdom paid homage to Ile-Ife, and that they (i.e. the kings of Benin kingdom) regard Ile-Ife kings as their spiritual overlords.

(3) Yet from these two foregoing premises, your conclusion is that Ile-Ife/its kings were never imperial.

Isn't your syllogistic conclusion laughable, or at least interesting?

May be everyone should "reason" along with you from your "logical" deduction, and then come to your conclusion that:

Yes, Ile-Ife was not imperial, but super-imperial (if there is any such compound term).

cc: Sewgon79

osazsky:
do u guys have an oba cuz I am hearing this for d first time,,I thought it was by apiontment ,selection loyalty and lobbying ours have been the same family since ,,1814

u don't get it.since urs is by appointment and selection,imagine an one that is not loyal to tinubu..he will immediately b replaced by a more loyal oba just the way ambodw was kicked out but over here an oba has nerves lost his first son that's d diff

tammie24:
does it matter how an Oba gets to the throne?

We are your king makers

Believe it or not!

u don't get it to be an oba u have to be loyal since its by selection and appointment an oba can b kicked out by tinubu at will just like ambode over here in Benin an oba has never lost his first son since 1756

dietola01:
Popular social media enthusiast, Tunde Ednut has stated that in Benin city, Edo state, governors kneels to greet the king but in other kingdoms, the king shivers before the governor.

Speaking in an Instagram post, Ednut shared a photo of Governor Godwin Obaseki kneeling before Oba of Benin...

Make una tell these village people that in Ife, world leaders prostrate for Ooni.

Obasanjo
Brazilian Ambassador
Cuban Ambassador

Una take ordinary Governor kneel as some achievement. mmmmtchhheewww.....