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Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by thatigboman: 7:51am On Mar 22, 2020
iammo:
cool



British started that nonsense in hopes of colonising nigeria.. only few kings actually fought them, kings like Alafin, Arochuku king, and Jaja of Opobo

.
oba overami of benin too. He was banished to calabar

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Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by Babinski: 7:53am On Mar 22, 2020
175:
Nice expose!

However, in modern times, it's so obvious that Constitutional Democracy and Unconstitutional Monarchy can not flow together.

The way the Emir of Kano was demystified says much about the waning down of monarchy.



The monarchy is not the problem. It is the character and malaise of our politicians in punishing criticism and subduing the populace. What they have done to journalists and human right activists is what the have extended to monarchy to let us know that they will not condone anyone telling them the truth they don't want to hear. And in all of it, the people are the worse for it.

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Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by Olinex: 7:54am On Mar 22, 2020
helinues:


Same way the Chinese are the one constructing our major roads as if we have no engineering graduates from the country.

A lot is wrong about Nigeria





Who do we blame for these woe
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by thunderbabs: 7:55am On Mar 22, 2020
Yea, since they started endorsing and collecting large sums of money from politicians. Most palaces are political wards.
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by kayusely70(m): 8:01am On Mar 22, 2020
Abalado:
Nigerian kings lost their power bcs they involve themselves I politics, they do collect contracts from the government and won't do it, they have useless themselves by involving in politics...
During the last elections some of them were in the campaign teams of some politicians, donning a common outfits with them
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by jamace(m): 8:05am On Mar 22, 2020
Emirates and kingdoms are outdated in a democracy. They are mere parasites on the democratic government. They should be scrapped or made governors and LG Chairmen.
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by TemmyT002(m): 8:11am On Mar 22, 2020
The article keeps mentioning the young people who are abusing the monarchy. Which nonsense young people? The same lazy young people who abuse pastors who are older than them? The same young people who have nothing to offer the country except run their mouths off?
It is sad.
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by HRMK: 8:24am On Mar 22, 2020
Sotland:
There are regions where the King has lost their powers not all regions. Remove a king? It is never possible in th benin kingdom not even in states like Anambra... Can the governor remove alafin iku baba yeye?... Where the kings are strictly by heritance, the governor has no such power as to remove them from their thrones..
stop dcvg urself!it has happened in all the regions even though some were carried out by colonial masters!!
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by sisisioge: 8:29am On Mar 22, 2020
Dang...I still believe in the cultural kingdom...I still believe in the monarchs being figures to be respected biko.

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Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by foxxydude: 8:34am On Mar 22, 2020
These governors run to these Kings for support and blessings before elections grin

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Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by 1kingwriter: 8:57am On Mar 22, 2020
McClean573:

Source : https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-51853564

But it's Britain that killed everything traditional system in Nigeria.
In England the Queen is higher than the Parliament, but in Nigeria you the British via indirect rule made traditional rulers puppets.

Just like the British monarch is outdated, so also the Nigeria created by Britain. It is only when real republics are instituted that the traditional rulers can wield powers.

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Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by Sotland: 9:31am On Mar 22, 2020
HRMK:
stop dcvg urself!it has happened in all the regions even though some were carried out by colonial masters!!
.


Do not compare colonial era to now
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by ivolt: 9:31am On Mar 22, 2020
helinues:
BBC always running our local investigative
journalism
for us.

What is investigative about this piece?

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Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by gotnel: 9:50am On Mar 22, 2020
Our traditions remains our traditions.
Politicians have made this country a great example of how things are going down hill.
By all means, the king remains a powerful treasure of traditional heritage.
Politicians are just playing politics.

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Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by ogmask: 9:57am On Mar 22, 2020
iammo:
cool



British started that nonsense in hopes of colonising nigeria.. only few kings actually fought them, kings like Alafin, Arochuku king, and Jaja of Opobo

.

King jaja did not fight the British they had trade disagreement. If you want to talk of a king that fought the British or the whites your best bet is the oba of Benin.
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by Pappy8(m): 10:05am On Mar 22, 2020
Hmmmmm
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by iammo(m): 10:06am On Mar 22, 2020
ogmask:


King jaja did not fight the British they had trade disagreement. If you want to talk of a king that fought the British or the whites your best bet is the oba of Benin.

all Nigerian kings had trade deal with all western representatives for decades, everything turned war when british wanted trade exclusivity , benin king also fought a pretty good fight with lesser guns but sense of patriotism same as some other kings and jaja was one of them

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Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by Nobody: 10:17am On Mar 22, 2020
Some are even yahoo kings cheesy
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by worworbabe: 10:19am On Mar 22, 2020
CoronaVirusRelo:


That's just the way it is.

Incompetent lots we have.

Just like the Paracetamol and Antibiotics Doctors we have. Any ailment, you must use paracetamol, antibiotics and blood tonic. Standard cure for all ailments. Even for HIV

You must have been patronising your neighbourhood "chemists"

Btw, HIV meds are free. Go to a proper hospital.
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by OGHENAOGIE(m): 10:50am On Mar 22, 2020
helinues:
BBC always running our local investigative
journalism for us.

mind you it's still a local who did the job... And investigative journalism is not a tea party
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by Nobody: 11:00am On Mar 22, 2020
vibre:
BBC should shut up! Sanusi has paid them bribe to write this nonsense. Because oluwo refused to pay bribe they are now peddling false stories about him. Shame on BBC

Allergic to the truth. You need medication.
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by MoIbrahim: 11:34am On Mar 22, 2020
175:


Honestly! While some of our journalists (who happens to be in majority) keeps running after our political class for pittance!

Very hungry set of things. Always running after one paid "breaking news" or the other. No time to reflect or investigate.
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by Nobody: 11:54am On Mar 22, 2020
175:
Nice expose!

However, in modern times, it's so obvious that Constitutional Democracy and Unconstitutional Monarchy can not flow together.

The way the Emir of Kano was demystified says much about the waning down of monarchy.


Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by Ijeleigbo(m): 12:53pm On Mar 22, 2020
I strongly agree with this article. The bitter truth is that Nigerian Kings have been ridiculed in this 21st century by politicians because firstly, the British destroyed the Monarchy System and introduced Democratic system of Government.... Hence, Kings have to depend on State Government for survival but History and tradition can't be thrown away off the window no matter how civilized Nigeria turns out to be!

Kingship doesn't only exist in Nigeria, it is in virtually all African countries.... It is an African identity! And the Politicians, irrespective of the fact that they feel they are powerful than Kings because of position and money, they can't do without Kings.... If anyone feels Kingship has no value or significance, then scrape out your tradition, culture and community..... Then we will have nothing like villages anymore! We will only have Local Government and State but that is practically impossible!!

Kings have lost their respect and prestige because of greed and envy! The dethronement and banishment of Emir Sanusi is a big slap to all Nigerian Kings and I expect All Nigerian Kings to have a conference or meeting where they sit together and exchange ideas on how they could be relevant to Nigerian Democracy and also restore their prestige and power!!! Unfortunately, Nigerian Kings are divided.... In unity, there is power but in division, there is weakness....

I must let y'all know there are various kinds of Kings though! We have spiritual Kings (These are Kings ordained by God), we have Kings based on their wealth and fame and we have political Kings.... So the fate that befell Sanusi cannot befall some Kings but still, it's a huge slap to all Nigerian Kings....

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Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by musicwriter(m): 1:02pm On Mar 22, 2020
What Britain or those they've educated as their mouth piece won't tell you is that the dethronement of African kings began upon arrival of Europeans in Africa. It was only upon our unfortunate contact with the Europeans did the dethronement and desecration of our institutions begin. But they won't tell you that.

During slavery and colonialism, Britain and France disgraced and dethroned African kings, after which they sent them into exile, unless you agreed to work as a servant to the colonial powers. They looted Africa and took many to slavery. That's how the dethronement and destruction of our institutions began.

In 1887, the British dethroned king Jaja of Opobo and forced him to exile for refusing to allow British monopoly on commodity trade in his kingdom.

In 1861, the British threatened Oba of Lagos, Oba Dosunmu with war for refusing to sign a treaty surrendering Lagos to them as a British protectorate. He later succumbed and gave up Lagos as a British protectorate.

In 1895, the British dethroned king Koko Mingi VIII of Nembe and sent him to exile for refusing to accept an exploitative contract term from the royal Niger company- a British colonial monopoly.

In 1735, a British delegation shot Oba Oresoyen in his palace for being stubborn and refusing to take instruction from Queen of England.

In 1897, the British dethroned Oba Ovonramwen of Bini kingdom and sent him to exile after unsuccessful attempts to lure him to surrender his kingdom to slavery. After he was exiled, the British called a meeting of the community, and in a triumphant tone, they said “you see, your King is gone!. From today, you have only one King and her name is Queen Victoria. Henceforth, she’s the only one you shall pay tributes to”.

In 1894, the British exiled king Nana of Itsekiri to Ghana and took over his oil palm factory and cocoa plantation.

In 1896, the British exiled King Prempeh I of Ashanti kingdom for refusing to offer them 50,000 ounces of gold at once, even as the king was begging them he can pay in installments starting with an initial 680 ounces down payment. The British took the 680 initial deposit from him and reneged from the agreement. Finally, the head of the British expedition ordered king Prempeh to vacate his seat and to sit on the floor. When king Prempeh sat on the floor, he sat on Prempeh's official seat and started verbally abusing the king, the Ashanti kingdom, and black people in general with all sorts of derogatory words. When he was done abusing the king, he asked the king to come forward to kiss his boots (his right and left foot) and the king did so. After humiliating the king in the presence of the whole village, he sent him to exile to Seychelles.
[img]https://2.bp..com/-oBtqkTAxugw/WNKY8qiztvI/AAAAAAAABJE/_u5A9homSPAbrrPeoU7ciJKdCfObf8NwwCLcB/s400/king%2BPrempeh%2Bhumiliation%2Bkissing%2Bbritish%2Bboot%2Bduring%2Bcolonialism%2Bof%2Bafrica.jpg[/img]
King Prempeh kissing the boot of British invaders in 1896

Note that king Prempeh did not owe Britain any gold as he didn’t have any business with them; rather, the British heard his official seat was made of real gold, they got jealous and wanted some of the gold. When Prempeh refused to give them gold, they threatened him to provide gold or have his kingdom invaded. The king under fear of exile signed he would provide the gold, but he didn’t have all of the gold at once.

In 1899, the British exiled King Mwanga II of Buganda a.k.a the Kabaka of Buganda to Seychelles. He was dethroned for refusing to convert to Christianity and also for refusing to sign a treaty with Lord Lugard granting Britain power over taxes in his kingdom and trade to the Imperial British East Africa Company.

In 1899, the British shot and wounded king Kabalega of Bunyoro in his palace for refusing to surrender his kingdom to colonialism. He was exiled to Seychelles and the British installed a puppet king.

In 1883, the British pressured Oba Awujale Fidipote to exile in Epe, after threatening military invasion of his kingdom.

In 1896, the British sent Queen Yaa Asantewaa to exile to Seychelles for refusing to submit to imperial rule. Queen Yaa Asantewa fought gallantly and was only defeated by a fortified British expeditionary force.

In 1891, the British dethroned and exiled king Waiyaki Wa Hinga. King Waiyaki had earlier made an agreement with the British to allow them to settle peacefully in his land. As usual, the British reneged from the agreement a few months later and wanted everything in his kingdom including his seat. A fight ensued and they hit king Waiyaki with (simi) dagger on his head and planned to take him to court for prosecution. On the way to the court, they changed their mind and decided to bury him alive instead. Till today, nobody knows where they buried him.

In 1835, the British captured and beheaded king Hintsa in South Africa. He was of the Xhosa tribe. The queen of England asked that his skull be brought to her palace in London, and it was done. Till today, nobody knows where they buried him or where his skull is.

The list of dethroned and exiled African kings is endless. There must have been over 2,500 of such cases as ancient Africa was ruled by kings. Every single African king had to be dethroned or exiled for his kingdom to be enslaved. The French, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese, also have their share of these crimes in Africa.

But they won't tell you how the dethronement of our kings began and how the artificial political power structure came to be, whereas, in Europe they evolved out of theirs for and by themselves. As I speak, the one you all call queen remain the head of government in Britain and many more countries.

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Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by CAPSLOCKED: 1:08pm On Mar 22, 2020
musicwriter:
What Britain or those they've educated as their mouth piece won't tell you is that the dethronement of African kings began upon arrival of Europeans in Africa. It was only upon our unfortunate contact with the Europeans did the dethronement and desecration of our institutions begin. But they won't tell you that.

During slavery and colonialism, Britain and France disgraced and dethroned African kings, after which they sent them into exile, unless you agreed to work as a servant to the colonial powers. They looted Africa and took many to slavery. That's how the dethronement and destruction of our institutions began.

In 1887, the British dethroned king Jaja of Opobo and forced him to exile for refusing to allow British monopoly on commodity trade in his kingdom.

In 1861, the British threatened Oba of Lagos, Oba Dosunmu with war for refusing to sign a treaty surrendering Lagos to them as a British protectorate. He later succumbed and gave up Lagos as a British protectorate.

In 1895, the British dethroned king Koko Mingi VIII of Nembe and sent him to exile for refusing to accept an exploitative contract term from the royal Niger company- a British colonial monopoly.

In 1735, a British delegation shot Oba Oresoyen in his palace for being stubborn and refusing to take instruction from Queen of England.

In 1897, the British dethroned Oba Ovonramwen of Bini kingdom and sent him to exile after unsuccessful attempts to lure him to surrender his kingdom to slavery. After he was exiled, the British called a meeting of the community, and in a triumphant tone, they said “you see, your King is gone!. From today, you have only one King and her name is Queen Victoria. Henceforth, she’s the only one you shall pay tributes to”.

In 1894, the British exiled king Nana of Itsekiri to Ghana and took over his oil palm factory and cocoa plantation.

In 1896, the British exiled King Prempeh I of Ashanti kingdom for refusing to offer them 50,000 ounces of gold at once, even as the king was begging them he can pay in installments starting with an initial 680 ounces down payment. The British took the 680 initial deposit from him and reneged from the agreement. Finally, the head of the British expedition ordered king Prempeh to vacate his seat and to sit on the floor. When king Prempeh sat on the floor, he sat on Prempeh's official seat and started verbally abusing the king, the Ashanti kingdom, and black people in general with all sorts of derogatory words. When he was done abusing the king, he asked the king to come forward to kiss his boots (his right and left foot) and the king did so. After humiliating the king in the presence of the whole village, he sent him to exile to Seychelles.
[img]https://2.bp..com/-oBtqkTAxugw/WNKY8qiztvI/AAAAAAAABJE/_u5A9homSPAbrrPeoU7ciJKdCfObf8NwwCLcB/s400/king%2BPrempeh%2Bhumiliation%2Bkissing%2Bbritish%2Bboot%2Bduring%2Bcolonialism%2Bof%2Bafrica.jpg[/img]
King Prempeh kissing the boot of British invaders in 1896

Note that king Prempeh did not owe Britain any gold as he didn’t have any business with them; rather, the British heard his official seat was made of real gold, they got jealous and wanted some of the gold. When Prempeh refused to give them gold, they threatened him to provide gold or have his kingdom invaded. The king under fear of exile signed he would provide the gold, but he didn’t have all of the gold at once.

In 1899, the British exiled King Mwanga II of Buganda a.k.a the Kabaka of Buganda to Seychelles. He was dethroned for refusing to convert to Christianity and also for refusing to sign a treaty with Lord Lugard granting Britain power over taxes in his kingdom and trade to the Imperial British East Africa Company.

In 1899, the British shot and wounded king Kabalega of Bunyoro in his palace for refusing to surrender his kingdom to colonialism. He was exiled to Seychelles and the British installed a puppet king.

In 1883, the British pressured Oba Awujale Fidipote to exile in Epe, after threatening military invasion of his kingdom.

In 1896, the British sent Queen Yaa Asantewaa to exile to Seychelles for refusing to submit to imperial rule. Queen Yaa Asantewa fought gallantly and was only defeated by a fortified British expeditionary force.

In 1891, the British dethroned and exiled king Waiyaki Wa Hinga. King Waiyaki had earlier made an agreement with the British to allow them to settle peacefully in his land. As usual, the British reneged from the agreement a few months later and wanted everything in his kingdom including his seat. A fight ensued and they hit king Waiyaki with (simi) dagger on his head and planned to take him to court for prosecution. On the way to the court, they changed their mind and decided to bury him alive instead. Till today, nobody knows where they buried him.

In 1835, the British captured and beheaded king Hintsa in South Africa. He was of the Xhosa tribe. The queen of England asked that his skull be brought to her palace in London, and it was done. Till today, nobody knows where they buried him or where his skull is.

The list of dethroned and exiled African kings is endless. There must have been over 2,500 of such cases as ancient Africa was ruled by kings. Every single African king had to be dethroned or exiled for his kingdom to be enslaved. The French, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese, also have their share of these crimes in Africa.

But they won't tell you how the dethronement of our kings began and how the artificial political power structure came to be, whereas, in Europe they evolved out of theirs for and by themselves. As I speak, the one you all call queen remain the head of government in Britain and many more countries.

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Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by Sewgon79(m): 1:30pm On Mar 22, 2020
ogmask:


King jaja did not fight the British they had trade disagreement. If you want to talk of a king that fought the British or the whites your best bet is the oba of Benin.

Ọba of Benin didn't fight British, he kill the emissary send by British unaware and British wage war against him, he fled to Calabar. He died in Calabar and his son was made king instead and he reach agreement with British.

The real king that fight British is Ijebu kingdom. It was a battle of Imagbon. British have to recruit more soldiers from Ghana, Sierra Leone and Up north Hausa to fight IJEBU.

Go and check the history. It is called Imagbon War, the war took long and both parties finally reached agreement, that is how Ijebu gave Epe to British as part of bargain for trade purposes.

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Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by OgboAto: 1:46pm On Mar 22, 2020
Double post.
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by OgboAto: 1:47pm On Mar 22, 2020
Oladosu is in UI, he is a full professor & presently the dean of the Faculty of Arts.

Olutayo is in UI & a full professor.
Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by engrchykae(m): 2:05pm On Mar 22, 2020
helinues:
BBC always running our local investigative
journalism for us.

what is the role of their useless old hag of an archaic Queen?
Evil Brits that should worry about life after brexit

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Re: How Nigeria's Kings Lost Their Power - BBC by Ijeleigbo(m): 2:57pm On Mar 22, 2020
Britain have done so many evil to the African continent and Nigeria in particular!
How wicked the ancient ancestors!! Later they say people of this age was more corrupt than ancient people

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