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Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by OtemAtum: 4:58pm On Mar 25
Maximus69:


Do you know this is a REAL challenge? cheesy

So are you really ready for this? cheesy

Well if you're truly ready let's agree on some rules first.

No insults, No abusive speeches, and No curses!

Just simple questions and answers section!

I will represent JEHOVAH and you will represent whoever you believe!

Will you take on the challenge? smiley
I believe in myself.
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by OtemAtum: 5:01pm On Mar 25
Maximus69:
@ Otem

Let's scrutinize the rule that says

(1) Use your brain!

There are humans in virtually every corner of the planet, they have different cultures and opinions, due to attractiveness of the male and female specie there has been intermarriages from time immemorial.

So let's use our brains!

(1)You sent your babygirl to school only to come back home with a pregnancy because she's been secretly sleeping with her NYSC boyfriend since she's (18+), as the father (using your brains) what is the next step?

(2)Will you agree if your daughter (18) now told you her lover is from the tribe where women are treated as the man's property?

(3)She insisted on marrying her supposed lover anyway and later she's been beaten by her so called "husband" when the law in your own side of the country forbids a man beating a woman but your in-laws believe it's normal. Will you feel comfortable?

Please your brains only! smiley

My brain which I'm using will tell me to seek advice from other people first(I mean other human beings like me). I will even go to a guidance and counsellor to seek their advice. I won't seek advice from any god, because the world is a psychophysical ground, not a psychospiritual ground(so the gods should stay their lane cheesy ). So you see that I actually used my brain to seek advice. Counter it, make I hear say na other people's brain I use, not mine. grin
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Maximus69: 5:02pm On Mar 25
So let's assume everyone believes in himself now and so how do you handle this situation?
Maximus69:
@ Otem

Let's scrutinize the rule that says

(1) Use your brain!

There are humans in virtually every corner of the planet, they have different cultures and opinions, due to attractiveness of the male and female specie there has been intermarriages from time immemorial.

So let's use our brains!

(1)You sent your babygirl to school only to come back home with a pregnancy because she's been secretly sleeping with her NYSC boyfriend since she's (18+), as the father (using your brains) what is the next step?

(2)Will you agree if your daughter (18) now told you her lover is from the tribe where women are treated as the man's property?

(3)She insisted on marrying her supposed lover anyway and later she's been beaten by her so called "husband" when the law in your own side of the country forbids a man beating a woman but your in-laws believe it's normal. Will you feel comfortable?

Please your brains only! smiley



Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by OtemAtum: 5:03pm On Mar 25
Maximus69:
So let's assume everyone believes in himself now and so how do you handle this situation?

I'll seek advice first, then depending on the situation of things at that moment, I'll make my decision. I used my brain in seeking advice and making a decision eventually.
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by paxonel(m): 5:08pm On Mar 25
LordReed:


So to you Children's day is a religious ceremony?
Here are the difference!

A child is a person while atheism is a belief or doctrine as it applies to religion and it is not in anyway different from religion.

Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Maximus69: 5:08pm On Mar 25
OtemAtum:

My brain which I'm using will tell me to seek advice from other people first(I mean other human beings like me). I will even go to a guidance and counsellor to seek their advice. I won't seek advice from any god, because the world is a psychophysical ground, not a psychospiritual ground(so the gods should stay their lane cheesy ). So you see that I actually used my brain to seek advice. Counter it, make I hear say na other people's brain I use, not mine. grin

You said

"I BELIEVE IN MYSELF"

But now you're suggesting 'going to consult a counselor' who also should only believe in himself/herself!

Hmmmmmmmm.

OK so your girl is married to her lover whose culture allows him to whip (beat) his wife, your daughter is still under his roof because he has paid her dowry. Now you're going to someone else to seek advice whereas you said "everyone should BELIEVE IN HIMSELF/HERSELF"

Please how do you correlate the two contradicting concept? undecided
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by LordReed(m): 5:20pm On Mar 25
paxonel:

Here are the difference!

A child is a person while atheism is a belief or doctrine as it applies to religion and it is not in anyway different from religion.

First off, I don't know how many times this will be said to you, atheism is not a belief. It is a lack of belief in gods.

Doctrine is not a word exclusive to religion. The military for example have doctrines. It doesn't connotes religion.

Atheism has no objects of worship, no creed, no immutable holy text, no devotions, no trappings of religion whatsoever.
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by raraavis(m): 5:40pm On Mar 25
Pls, when and where was the world's Atheist Day declared?
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Maximus69: 5:42pm On Mar 25
@ Otem!

OK let's try JEHOVAH'S brain now!

He instructed me to teach each child he kept under my care {Psalms 127:3} his own Judicial decisions {Deuteronomy 6:4-7} so According to JEHOVAH i shouldn't treat the child as my own but his own while i do the work of a caretaker!

Before any child is eighteen years of age i must have inculcated Jehovah's principles in his/her heart, meaning the child will be solely responsible for whatever decision he/she makes at that point in time!
But if the child now choose to seek counsel from others, it must be those who also have the same line of thought but vast in experience, NOT necessarily i (his/her) biological father.
Before the child goes out to seek for counsel, i have inculcated in him that the spiritual controls the physical, so my child is fully equipped with Bible wisdom the only reason for seeking counsel is lack of experience since his learning was just theoretical not PRACTICAL!
But if a child chooses not to live by what i and other worshipers of JEHOVAH have learnt, then we will shun such a child for his/her own fate!

So nobody decides for him but JEHOVAH!

Well this has been working out what is beneficial amongst Jehovah's worshipers since the time of Abraham's second son Isaac. That's why Jehovah always refer to himself as the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob!

These ancient men fully trusted Jehovah's discretion and so we Jehovah's Witnesses do today! smiley
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Bacteriologist(m): 5:48pm On Mar 25
paxonel:

Here are the difference!

A child is a person while atheism is a belief or doctrine as it applies to religion and it is not in anyway different from religion.


Fortunately for people who can use their head, assigning YOUR own meaning to words doesn't make those words automatically become what you want them to mean.

Saying atheism is a belief or doctrine does not truly mean that atheism is belief or doctrine. It only means that YOU FOOLISHLY love to define it so. Despite efforts of the sane world to save you from drowning in your own folly.

Atheism is a lack of belief in all gods including yours. Need I say that again? A LACK.

A-theism: NO belief in a God. None. Nada. ZERO. Zilp. Zilch.

It's no more a belief than "Not swimming" is a hobby.
Or "off" is a TV channel.

I understand how difficult that may seem for you. Logic can be difficult. Especially for god apologists. I suggest you read it like 4-5 times. Take all the time you need.

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Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Maximus69: 5:52pm On Mar 25
@ Otem!

So let's move to the second RULE,

©Worship No God!

(1)Since you say people should Worship NO God, then how do you intend to unite people from different races, languages, classes, skin colours and so on?

For humans to make this planet a Haven, we must learn to cohabit in peace and that means there should be a common line of thought on right and wrong!

Now that people have different opinions on what is right and wrong, and each race have this self esteem, please how do you think we can live in Peace with your so called golden rule "Worship NO God" ? undecided
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by budaatum: 6:14pm On Mar 25
OtemAtum:


I have never claimed to be an atheist and i don't worship Atum either. Atum does not like worship and this New Age era is not a time where humans should be worshipping people up and down. It is for scientific purposes either. Just that it was Atum who began the revelation of truth to me, that's all.

The three golden rules are:

1. Use your brain
2. Worship no god/God
3. Do good to humanity

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Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Riduane: 6:24pm On Mar 25
Atheism should be the dumbest philosophical position in this century. What are they to celebrate.
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by budaatum: 6:24pm On Mar 25
Maximus69:

So nobody decides for him but JEHOVAH!
This is an untruth Max. You yourself detailed how you "inculcated Jehovah's principles in his/her heart" before the "child is eighteen years of age", so the child will not "be solely responsible for whatever decision he/she makes at that point in time!"

That's not to say one should not inculcate Jehovah's principles in his/her heart, just that it's not correct to then say it was "Jehova who decided for him". You, as a responsible parent, did. And it is you who is responsible for your child until it is eighteen.
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Maximus69: 6:34pm On Mar 25
budaatum:

This is an untruth Max. You yourself detailed how you "inculcated Jehovah's principles in his/her heart" before the "child is eighteen years of age", so the child will not "be solely responsible for whatever decision he/she makes at that point in time!"

That's not to say one should not inculcate Jehovah's principles in his/her heart, just that it's not correct to then say it was "Jehova who decided for him". You, as a responsible parent, did. And it is you who is responsible for your child until it is eighteen.

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Right from childhood my offspring should be thought God's sovereignty, through my heartfelt prayer to God my child will know that i depend on someone else NOT my own PERSONAL discretion!

So teaching my child what i heard from JEHOVAH is like passing over the heritage NOT my own legacy!

While teaching our children from infancy, the little ones are expected to ask questions about the person his/her parents often talk to with our eyes closed. So our persistence in prayer will help our children to know that everything we know as parents came from someone "JEHOVAH".

So after growing up to know all these, the child can't stand up to confront me saying "There is no Jehovah" he or she may choose not to be a worshiper of JEHOVAH but i have played my own part!
Therefore when such a child is shunned, he/she will know that it's the family heritage that he/she is rejecting NOT the father's legacy. That's why you'll hear shunned JWs condemning the organization NOT their parents because they knew that their parents are the best they can have, so they'll blame the global family instead of their immediately family! wink
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by budaatum: 7:01pm On Mar 25
Maximus69:


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Right from childhood my offspring should be thought God's sovereignty, through my heartfelt prayer to God my child will know that i depend on someone else NOT my own PERSONAL discretion!

So teaching my child what i heard from JEHOVAH is like passing over the heritage NOT my own legacy!)
There is a huge assumption being made here Max. You say, "NOT my own PERSONAL discretion", and while I want to agree with you, it really is your own personal discretion especially if you allow me to pressume "PERSONAL discretion" means your own beliefs and understandings. But the bigger assumption is claiming your beliefs and understanding are what you "heard from JEHOVAH".

Maximus69:
So after growing up to know all these, the child can't stand up to confront me saying "There is no Jehovah" he or she may choose not to be a worshiper of JEHOVAH but i have played my own part!
You'd be amazed how many have turned atheist after being "inculcated". Its called growing up and thinking for oneself, especially if the inculcation was wrong.

Maximus69:

Therefore when such a child is shunned, he/she will know that it's the family heritage that he/she is rejecting NOT the father's legacy. That's why you'll hear shunned JWs condemning the organization NOT their parents because they knew that their parents are the best they can have, so they'll blame the global family instead of their immediately family! wink
Jesus did not teach "love only those who are inculcated like you", and you don't even practise such crap since we all know you do not shun those who do not believe what you do, so I must wonder why you'd be here preaching it!?

An organisation that shuns someone for thinking different is more or less a cult, and parents that shun their own children do not love their own flesh and blood and reasonable people would ask if they love their neighbours or their enemies even.
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Maximus69: 7:10pm On Mar 25
budaatum:

There is a huge assumption being made here Max. You say, "NOT my own PERSONAL discretion", and while I want to agree with you, it really is your own personal discretion especially if you allow me to pressume "PERSONAL discretion" means your own beliefs and understandings. But the bigger assumption is claiming your beliefs and understanding are what you "heard from JEHOVAH".


You'd be amazed how many have turned atheist after being "inculcated". Its called growing up and thinking for oneself, especially if the inculcation was wrong.


Jesus did not teach "love only those who are inculcated like you", and you don't even practise such crap since we all know you do not shun those who do not believe what you do, so I must wonder why you'd be here preaching it!?

An organisation that shuns someone for thinking different is more or less a cult, and parents that shun their own children do not love their own flesh and blood and reasonable people would ask if they love their neighbours or their enemies even.

Well we worship JEHOVAH and he asked the Israelites to EXTERMINATE any of their own people who chooses not to follow the heritage! Deuteronomy 13:6-9

But instead of judging such a child by pelting him/her with stone to death, as Christians we were ordered to SHUN him/her! John 10-11


You said Jesus did not teach this kind of doctrine, then you need to know that you have no knowledge of who Jesus was for REAL. This is the same person that publicly declared his own mother and brothers as of no significance beside his followers! Matthew 12:46-49

That's the heritage of Jehovah's people, so don't be surprised to see many taking their leave because FAITH of this kind is NOT a possession of all people! 2Thessalonian 3:2 smiley

Jesus had at least six siblings but only two of them (Judas and James) join his followers as Christians {Matthew 13:55} after John took their mother in to INCULCATE all what Jesus taught his followers {John 19:26-27} that means all Jesus' other siblings have PERISHED! John 3:16-18
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by OtemAtum: 7:35pm On Mar 25
Maximus69:


You said

"I BELIEVE IN MYSELF"

But now you're suggesting 'going to consult a counselor' who also should only believe in himself/herself!

Hmmmmmmmm.

OK so your girl is married to her lover whose culture allows him to whip (beat) his wife, your daughter is still under his roof because he has paid her dowry. Now you're going to someone else to seek advice whereas you said "everyone should BELIEVE IN HIMSELF/HERSELF"

Please how do you correlate the two contradicting concept? undecided
believing in yourself doesn't mean living in isolation. It means trusting your own judgement. Remember, the counselors I consult will not make the judgement for me, I'll still do.

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Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Bacteriologist(m): 7:39pm On Mar 25
Riduane:
Atheism should be the dumbest philosophical position in this century. What are they to celebrate.


Sure. Because believing books where slavery, talking snakes and talking donkeys is considered normal is the "wisest philosophical decision."

Thumbs up.

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Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Riduane: 7:44pm On Mar 25
Bacteriologist:


Sure. Because believing books where slavery, talking snakes and talking donkeys is considered normal is the "wisest philosophical decision."

Thumbs up.

Oh yeah, we talking about the wisest now? I suppose believing something came out of nothing is the wisest thing right? Smh.
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by CAPSLOCKED: 7:45pm On Mar 25
Riduane:
Atheism should be the dumbest philosophical position in this century. What are they to celebrate.

ATHEISTS ARE FOOLS, THEY DON'T KNOW THE WORD OF GOD. cheesy

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Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by OtemAtum: 7:47pm On Mar 25
Maximus69:
@ Otem!

So let's move to the second RULE,

©Worship No God!

(1)Since you say people should Worship NO God, then how do you intend to unite people from different races, languages, classes, skin colours and so on?

For humans to make this planet a Haven, we must learn to cohabit in peace and that means there should be a common line of thought on right and wrong!

Now that people have different opinions on what is right and wrong, and each race have this self esteem, please how do you think we can live in Peace with your so called golden rule "Worship NO God" ? undecided
None of the religions unite people, sports do that better. Science also unite people better than religion, take the case study of COVID-19 for example. Everybody has thrown his or her weight on science to help us.
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by budaatum: 7:48pm On Mar 25
Maximus69:


Well we worship JEHOVAH and he asked the Israelites to EXTERMINATE any of their own people who chooses not to follow the heritage! Deuteronomy 13:6-9
Not true Max. First, here's verse 9.

But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

Note its a command, and not an "ask". But the lie is in claiming you worship Jehova when the truth is you worship a book. That said, I'm personally delighted that though I'd find it reprehensible that you'd be here attempting to "EXTERMINATE any of their own people who chooses not to follow the heritage", I'm delighted to find you don't fruitify your beliefs except in your own head or you'd be exterminating those who don't believe what you do.

Did Christ not say, “The Sabbath was made to meet the needs of people, and not people to meet the requirements of the Sabbath". Do you not understand that means, 'learn from the Word', and not its, letters?

Got to ask Max, what's you opinion of Christ Witness, as in, those who witness to Christ?

Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Riduane: 7:53pm On Mar 25
CAPSLOCKED:

[colr=#990000]ATHEISTS ARE FOOLS, THEY DON'T KNOW THE WORD OF GOD. cheesy[/color]

You can do better than this.
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Maximus69: 7:54pm On Mar 25
OtemAtum:
believing in yourself doesn't mean living in isolation. It means trusting your own judgement. Remember, the counselors I consult will not make the judgement for me, I'll still do.

Jehovah's worshipers also consult one another for counseling but each will make his own final conclusion in line with Jehovah's judicial decisions, because we all believe in JEHOVAH!

The point here is you can't impose your judgment on others because each person will BELIEVE IN HIMSELF if we're to go by your standard (golden rules)

That's where the friction awaits you all! smiley
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Maximus69: 8:00pm On Mar 25
budaatum:

Not true Max. First, here's verse 9.

But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

Note its a command, and not an "ask". But the lie is in claiming you worship Jehova when the truth is you worship a book. That said, I'm personally delighted that though I'd find it reprehensible that you'd be here attempting to "EXTERMINATE any of their own people who chooses not to follow the heritage", I'm delighted to find you don't fruitify your beliefs except in your own head or you'd be exterminating those who don't believe what you do.

Did Christ not say, “The Sabbath was made to meet the needs of people, and not people to meet the requirements of the Sabbath". Do you not understand that means, 'learn from the Word', and not its, letters?

Got to ask Max, what's you opinion of Christ Witness, as in, those who witness to Christ?

I've told you several times that you and i aren't worshipers of the same God!

So don't expect our doctrines to coincide with yours, remember you don't worship with any group, that means your own idea is in isolation unlike mine that almost 9,000,000 people globally share!

That's what we believe and it's not by force that you agree, once you agree you become a member of our global family, if you don't, stay on your lane! smiley

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Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by OtemAtum: 8:00pm On Mar 25
Maximus69:


Jehovah's worshipers also consult one another for counseling but each will make his own final conclusion in line with Jehovah's judicial decisions, because we all believe in JEHOVAH!

The point here is you can't impose your judgment on others because each person will BELIEVE IN HIMSELF if we're to go by your standard (golden rules)

That's where the friction awaits you all! smiley

No, majority of believers do exactly what their pastors ask them to do without thinking twice. Or what do you think the "This Is Church, You Won't Be Needing This(Brain) is for?"
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Bacteriologist(m): 8:38pm On Mar 25
Riduane:


Oh yeah, we talking about the wisest now? I suppose believing something came out of nothing is the wisest thing right? Smh.


Should have known. Lol

You're one of those theistic straw-grabbers incapable of doing their own research about a topic but peddle other people's thoughts instead.

When has Atheism had to do with "something come from nothing?"

So will you educate yourself and stop sounding like a fanatic, irrational brainwashed theist who obviously has no idea what he's on about?

Listen to something else other than your scammer pastor and you might just find out that Atheism has NOTHING to do with astronomy.
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by paxonel(m): 8:39pm On Mar 25
Bacteriologist:


Fortunately for people who can use their head, assigning YOUR own meaning to words doesn't make those words automatically become what you want them to mean.
No!
I just uploaded a screen shot of a dictionary definition of atheism, I didn't define it that way. For that definition to come out that way in an English dictionary that means there was a consensus.

Saying atheism is a belief or doctrine does not truly mean that atheism is belief or doctrine. It only means that YOU FOOLISHLY love to define it so. Despite efforts of the sane world to save you from drowning in your own folly.
so, the sane word you are talking about did not see English dictionary? grin

Atheism is a lack of belief in all gods including yours. Need I say that again? A LACK.

A-theism: NO belief in a God. None. Nada. ZERO. Zilp. Zilch.

It's no more a belief than "Not swimming" is a hobby.
Or "off" is a TV channel.

I understand how difficult that may seem for you. Logic can be difficult. Especially for god apologists. I suggest you read it like 4-5 times. Take all the time you need.
before I come to this, I want to ask you a simple question. How do you define religion?
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Bacteriologist(m): 8:50pm On Mar 25
paxonel:
No!
I just uploaded a screen shot of a dictionary definition of atheism, I didn't define it that way. For that definition to come out that way in an English dictionary that means there was a consensus.

God you people are hopeless.

Obviously you didn't even read your own screenshot. In the picture it said DISBELIEF. How is disbelief a belief?


paxonel:

so, the sane word you are talking about did not see English dictionary? grin
Satirical irrelevant bullshït.

paxonel:

before I come to this, I want to ask you a simple question. How do you define religion?


How about you post another screenshot from your consensus dictionary. Then we can roll with that. Smh.
Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by paxonel(m): 9:03pm On Mar 25
LordReed:


First off, I don't know how many times this will be said to you, atheism is not a belief. It is a lack of belief in gods.
I'm not doubting that it lack of belief, I already know.
But does lack of belief implies lack of the mind?
Because by default, every minds must have beliefs.

Doctrine is not a word exclusive to religion. The military for example have doctrines. It doesn't connotes religion.
for the military to have doctrines, it means the military must have beliefs or philosophy. They cannot possibly lack beliefs, and the extent to which they believe is the extent to which they know.

Atheism has no objects of worship, no creed, no immutable holy text, no devotions, no trappings of religion whatsoever.
these sets of characteristics of religion lacking in atheism does not exclude atheism from the idea of what the word RELIGION implies in English dictionary.

The word RELIGION also encompasses beliefs order than beliefs that has to do with a god. For instance, one meaning of the word RELIGION encircled below.

Re: Today Is World Atheist Day. NL Atheists How Did You Celebrate? by Maximus69: 9:16pm On Mar 25
OtemAtum:


No, majority of believers do exactly what their pastors ask them to do without thinking twice. Or what do you think the "This Is Church, You Won't Be Needing This(Brain) is for?"

That's why i told you from the start that you knew nothing about true Christians! cheesy

Jehovah's Witnesses study the Bible with an interested person for a lengthy period of time, he will need to meditate thoroughly on what he's studying and see how it benefits adherents PRACTICALLY before he vow to live in harmony with what he has learnt!

So each person VOW to live by the principles he himself fully understood NOT just what he see others worshipers do without scrutiny!

That's the difference between true Christians and misinformed churchgoers! cheesy

Note how easy you think you could defend your so called "Golden Rule" until i began scrutinizing it by asking thought provoking questions! smiley

Normally any lay man will easily agree that you've set a PERFECT standard, but when you meet Jehovah's Witnesses (true Christians) having the uncommon sense, your so called Golden Rules will be flawed!

So far so good you've not been able to prove your so called Golden Rule to be PERFECT as you initially presumed!

The first Rule
BELIEVE IN YOURSELF finally turned to
BELIEVE IN COLLECTIVE IDEAS GATHERED BEFORE MAKING THE FINAL DECISION


And the second RULE
WORSHIP NO GOD has been left unattended to!

Now can we now move to your last Rule?

DO GOOD TO HUMANITY! smiley

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