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Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by auwal87(m): 1:37pm On Dec 30, 2010
It is with dismay how this so called "Boko Haram" sects are playing in this country, their ideology is totally UN-ISLAMIC, I have listened to at least 5 Boko Haram members (or those with the same ideology) but argued that it isn't an excuse to fight Jihad in a place where your freedom is not violated (at least of free speech, movement, business, and religion) no where in Nigeria you will not practice any religion, whatever religion you are you can practice. Women can cover their whole body without any question? Men can marry up to 4 wives without any question. It is very disheartening how some people claiming to be "Ahlus Sunnah" violating the rights of others, which is totally against Islamic Teachings.

What the so called "Boko Haram" are doing is nothing but fighting their own fellow Muslims, not the kufr. We (Muslims in Nigeria) have to wake up and FIGHT these evil people. Please MUSLIM BROTHERS read below and share with your friends and family, DO NOT let any "BOKO HARAM" enter your Peaceful MIND. Please!!!

[b]Whenever the Prophet had an option between two courses of action, he always chose the easier (non-confrontational) one. (Bukhari)

This means that, violent activism should not be indulged in if peaceful activism is an option. For, peace is the easier course as compared to violence.


For instance, trying to change the status quo in the very first stage of a movement is a hard option, while launching one’s activities in the available sphere without doing so is an easier option.

Going to war in confrontational situations is a hard option while following a conciliatory course in dealing with one’s rival is easier. Countering aggression with aggression is a hard option, while countering aggression with patience and forbearance is an easier option. An agitational course of action is harder than employing quiet strategy. Adopting a radical method of reformation is harder than that of following a gradual method. Taking emotional, extreme steps without a thought for their consequences creates difficulties. While a well-considered method, keeping an eye on the consequences, gives much better results. The policy of confrontation with a ruler is a harder option, while initiating one’s action; by sidestepping the ruler in the sphere of education and learning is an easier option. These instances show us the easier and harder options, as demonstrated by the Hadith.

The truth is that peace in Islam is the ‘rule’, while war is the ‘exception’. This is borne out by all the teachings of Islam and the practical life of the Prophet of Islam.

The Example of the Prophet Muhammad

The Prophet Muhammad received his first revelation in 610 A.D. in Makkah. God ordained that he carry out the mission of Tawheed (or oneness of God).

The house of the Kabah, which was built as the house of monotheism by the Prophet Abraham and his son Ishmael (peace be upon them), later on became a centre of polytheism with 360 idols in it. The first revelation might well have demanded the purification of the Kabah, which would have given rise to a serious problem. But the first revelation made in the Quran was:

    Purify your vestments (74:4).

This means to purify one’s moral character. If, in the first stage the Prophet had been commanded to purify the Kabah while Makkah was still under the domination of the idolaters, this would have surely precipitated clash and confrontation. Therefore, according to the command of the first revelation, the Prophet continued to perform his prayers peacefully in the Kabah for a period of 13 years, even though it housed several hundred idols.

Similarly, the Prophet and his companions circumambulated the Kabah on the occasion of Umrah al-Hudaybiyya in 629, while the Kabah still housed 360 idols.

The Prophet Muhammad proceeded thus in order to avoid war and confrontation with the idolaters, and so that the atmosphere of peace should be maintained. The entire life of the Prophet is a practical demonstration of this peace-loving policy. At the time of migration from Makkah, the idolaters were all set to wage war, but the Prophet avoided this by quietly leaving his homeland for Madinah.

The mission of Islam is based on monotheism, its goal being to make people realize the existence of the one and only God and to strive to bring about a revolution in their hearts and minds of individuals in order that they may love God as is His due. And the greatest concern of man should be to fear and worship his Creator (2:165).

Such a mission cannot afford wars and violent confrontations. When a state of war and violence prevails, the normal atmosphere is vitiated and such circumstances as would foster intellectual movements and spiritual reformation cannot be effectively created. It cannot be denied that peaceful circumstances produce a propitious environment for Islam, while violent circumstances inevitably result in antagonism towards Islam.

War: A State Action

In Islam, war is not the prerogative of the individual but of an established government. Only an established government can declare war. In other words, individuals can pray on their own, but they cannot wage wars of their own accord. Only when a war is declared by the ruling government, can the public join in and support it, and not before that. Islam does not sanction individual actions on this issue. Therefore no Non Governmental Organization or NGO can declare a war.

As a general principle, the Quran tells us that, even where an external attack is feared, the common man should not act independently, but should take the matter to the ruler, and then under his guidance take proper counter measures. (4:83).

The Hadith also states that ‘the ruler is a shield, fighting is done under him, and security is attained through him.’

This clearly shows that the decision to do battle and its planning are the tasks of an established government. The common man can play his role as need be under government orders, and not independently.

This Islamic principle shows that there is no room for non-state warfare, which is what we generally call guerilla war. A guerilla war is fought by individual organizations, not by the State. As far as the state is concerned, if it wants to wage a defensive war against any country it has first—in obedience to the Quran—to issue a proper declaration. Only then can it wage a lawful war (8:58). In Islam, there is only ‘declared’ war. Therefore, in accordance with this principle, no proxy war in Islam can be lawful.

Most Islamic actions are governed by certain conditions. The waging of war is also thus subject to certain principles, one being that, even when a defensive war has been declared by the State, it will be aimed only at the combatants. Targeting non-combatants will be unlawful. The Quran enjoins us not to do battle with those who are not at war. Such people have to be dealt with kindly and equitably. But you are free to do battle with those who are fighting against you. (60:8-9)

If, for instance, a Muslim state is at war with a particular nation, and this war is in conformance with Islamic principles, it should still not permit any destructive activities against non-combatants (civilians), as was done on September 11, 2001, in New York and Washington. Similarly in Islamic war, Muslims are not permitted to commit suicidal bombings in order to destroy the enemy. Strapping explosives on to oneself and hurling oneself upon the civilian settlements of even those with whom one is at war, for the purpose of destroying the enemy, and in the process killing oneself deliberately, is totally un-Islamic. This can in no way be termed ‘Shahadah’ (martyrdom). According to Islam we can become martyrs, but we cannot court a martyr’s death deliberately.

The Difference between Enemy and Aggressor

Under the scheme of the divine trial of human beings, God has granted man freedom. Due to this freedom, enmities may develop between people (20:123), which sometimes lead them to war. But Islam makes a clear difference between enmity and war.

Believers do not have the right to wage wars against their enemies. What the believers have to do as regards their enemies is far from waging war. Their duty is to peacefully convey to them the message of Islam. The Quran gives a clear injunction on this subject:

    “And good and evil deeds are not alike. Repel evil with good. And he who is your enemy will become your dearest friend.” (41:33-34)

That is to say, Islam believes in turning one’s enemy into a friend through peaceful means, instead of declaring him an enemy and then waging war against him.

Islam does give permission to do battle. But such permission is given only in the case of an attack by opponents in spite of the policy of avoidance being followed by the Muslims, thus creating a situation where self-defense is required. The Quran has this to say: “Permission to take up arms is hereby given to those who are attacked because they have been wronged” (22:38). At another place the Quran gives a valid reason for fighting: “They were the first to attack you” (9:13).

This shows that according to the teachings of Islam, war is to be waged not against the enemy but against the aggressor. If Muslims hold someone to be their enemy, that does not give them the right to attack him. The one and only right given to them is to convey the peaceful message of Islam. Islam permits defensive fighting against violent aggression, but only when all efforts at avoidance and reconciliation have failed. The practical example of the Prophet Muhammad provides an incontrovertible proof of the value of this policy.

The Power of Peace

According to a Hadith, “God grants to gentleness what He does not grant to harshness.” That is to say, peaceful activism is distinctly superior to violent activism. There is nothing mysterious about the point made in this Hadith. It is a simple and a well-known fact of life that in a situation of war and violence, feelings of hatred and enmity flare up between the two sides and, in the process, the existing resources are destroyed. People from both sides get killed and the entire society turns into a jungle of negative feelings. It is quite obvious that in such an atmosphere no constructive and consolidated work can be done. There is nothing to be achieved in war and violence, save death and destruction.

On the contrary, an atmosphere of peace enables normal relations to be established between people. It makes it possible for feelings of love and friendship to prevail. In a favourable atmosphere constructive activities flourish and the existing resources can be used for development or other creative activities. A positive bent of mind will prevail which will help develop academic and intellectual advancement.

The greatest ill effect of war is that it limits human endeavour, whereas the greatest benefit of peace is that to the ultimate extent it opens up opportunities for improvement. War invariably results in further loss, while peace invariably results in further gain. That is why Islam teaches us to avoid war and confrontation at all costs and commands us to establish peace to the greatest possible degree.

Clarification of a Fallacy

There are certain verses in the Quran, which convey injunctions similar to the following:

    ‘Kill them wherever you find them.’ (2:191)

Referring to such verses, there are some who attempt to give the impression that Islam is a religion of war and violence. This is totally untrue. Such verses relate in a restricted sense, to those who have unilaterally attacked the Muslims. The above verse does not convey the general command of Islam.

The truth of the matter is that the Quran was not revealed in the complete form in which it exists today. It was revealed from time to time, according to the circumstances, over a time span of 23 years. If this is divided into years of war and peace, the period of peace amounts to 20 years, while that of war amounts only to 3 years. The revelations during these 20 peaceful years were the peaceful teachings of Islam as are conveyed in the verses regarding the realization of God, worship, morality, justice, etc.

This division of commands into different categories is a natural one and is found in all religious books. For instance, the Gita, the holy book of the Hindus, pertains to wisdom and moral values. Yet along with this is the exhortation of Krishna to Arjun, encouraging him to fight. (3:30) This does not mean that believers in the Gita should wage wars all the time. Gandhiji, after all, derived his philosophy of non-violence from the same Gita. The exhortation to wage war in the Gita applies only to exceptional cases where circumstances leave no choice. But for general day-to-day existence it gives the same peaceful commands as derived from it by Mahatma Gandhi.

Similarly, Jesus Christ said: “Do not think that I came to bring peace on Earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.” (Matthew, Chapter 10)

It would not be right to conclude that the religion preached by Christ was one of war and violence, for such utterances relate purely to particular occasions. So far as general life is concerned, Christ taught peaceful values, such as the building up of a good character, loving each other, helping the poor and needy, etc.

The same is true of the Quran. When the Prophet of Islam emigrated from Mecca to Medina, the idolatrous tribes were aggressive towards him. But the Prophet always averted their attacks by the exercise of patience and the strategy of avoidance. However on certain occasions no other options existed, save that of retaliation. Therefore, he had do battle on certain occasions. It was these circumstances, which occasioned those revelations relating to war. These commands, being specific to certain circumstances, had no general application. They were not meant to be valid for all time to come. That is why; the permanent status of the Prophet has been termed a ‘mercy for all mankind.’ (21:107)

Islam is a religion of peace in the fullest sense of the word. The Qur’an calls its way ‘the paths of peace’ (5:16). It describes reconciliation as the best policy (4:128), and states that God abhors any disturbance of the peace (2:205). We can say that: “It is no exaggeration to say that Islam and violence are contradictory to each other. The concept of Islamic violence is so obviously unfounded that prima facie it stands rejected. The fact that violence is not sustainable in the present world is sufficient indication that violence as a principle is quite alien to the scheme of things in Islam. Islam claims to be an eternal religion and, as such, could never afford to uphold any principle, which could not stand up to the test of time. Any attempt to bracket violence with Islam amounts, therefore, to casting doubt upon the very eternity of the Islamic religion. Islamic terrorism is a contradiction in terms, much like ‘pacifist’ terrorism. And the truth of the matter is that, all the teachings of Islam are based directly or indirectly on the principle of peace.”[/b]


PEACE TO YOU ALL!!!
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by edoyad(m): 2:54pm On Dec 30, 2010
Sharap ! Stop kidding yourself. Nigeriam Muslims don't have a problem, it's hausa people who have a problem. I was born in lagos and i don't think lag has ever had a democratically elected christian governor but is still the pride of Nigeria.

Na your people get problem, HAUSA PEOPLE. Same problem we had with you here in kaduna, enemies of progress, destined to be doomed.
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by aljharem(m): 3:21pm On Dec 30, 2010
edoyad:

Sharap ! Stop kidding yourself. Nigeriam Muslims don't have a problem, it's hausa people who have a problem. I was born in lagos and i don't think lag has ever had a democratically elected christian governor but is still the pride of Nigeria.

Na your people get problem, HAUSA PEOPLE. Same problem we had with you here in kaduna, enemies of progress, destined to be doomed.

you are right, but we muslims have to work together for the greater good

if they say boko haram to the world, they would say nigerian muslim terrorist not hausa or northern terrorist undecided

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Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by okunoba(m): 3:32pm On Dec 30, 2010
@auwal87, u obviously don`t know much about Islamic history and present day World affairs. Talk is cheap, action speaks louder than words. If Islam was truly a religion of peace we wouldn`t have Muslims from all the four corners of the World killing and bombing innocent people, for Allah and his messenger. Islam was founded on violence and it`s followers have carried on the tradition. Tell me, how did Usman Danfodio spread Islam in Nigeria? How many raids and wars did Mohamed(PBUH) personally waged on the unbelievers? Read the hadith and Koran with an open mind and u will see that it`s filled with nothing but violence and vengeance. Islam is called imole in Yoruba, meaning forced knowledge.

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Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by Beaf: 3:40pm On Dec 30, 2010
edoyad:

Sharap ! Stop kidding yourself. Nigeriam Muslims don't have a problem, it's hausa people who have a problem. I was born in lagos and i don't think lag has ever had a democratically elected christian governor but is still the pride of Nigeria.

Na your people get problem, HAUSA PEOPLE. Same problem we had with you here in kaduna, enemies of progress, destined to be doomed.

This is the crux of the matter, along with the 10 million almajiri problem and legal paedophillia in the marriage of 11 year old girl children. These are cultural issues that have been siezed on by the wicked political elite from the area as "unifying" factors to be protected by violence. The whole country is thoroughly horrified at the terrorist acts carried out in Jos under the banner of religion and the overwhelming conclusion is that it was political.

These issues must be tackled head on through diplomatic engagement and total rejection by the rest of the country. This group must be brought into the modern, civilised World, because they have become a huge security threat to the nation; from threats of violence in politics to the regular massacres in Jos.

We have seen gory photo's of mothers burnt to death clutching their tiny babies. We have seen photo's of innocent babies with their heads sliced open. Even countries at war are spared such sights; why is it only when it involves the Hausa or Fulani that such acts are carried out? It is not an Islamic problem.

All backward traditions in the North must be wiped out.
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by yorker: 3:49pm On Dec 30, 2010
@ beaf, because they belief in the words of mOHAMMED
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by safariman(m): 3:53pm On Dec 30, 2010
Islam has been hijacked by the extremists, but you don't see much public outcry from the moral majority

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Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by jason123: 3:56pm On Dec 30, 2010
Who are this fools? Support the northerners or leave them alone! They are our country men and I do not support this name calling and etc.
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by Beaf: 4:08pm On Dec 30, 2010
yorker:

@ beaf, because they belief in the words of mOHAMMED

If that is the case, why aren't other areas where there are hefty Muslim populations bombing and massacring non-Muslims? Why does this only occur in the North?
Have you ever seen burnt babies in Northern Edo state or the SW for example?

The problem with a lot of Nigerians is that we turn into robots as soon as religion is mentioned. It causes us to miss the point by a country mile and we end up worsening an already bad situation. The problems in the North are 100% due to Hausa and Fulani culture and have zero to do with Islam.
We need to really engage to get to the root of why so many bad practises are encouraged in the core North; from almajiri, to paedophillia, to mass murder. We need to find out who is benefiting and how to stop them, we cannot afford to run into fake religious cocoons at this time to attack Islam.
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by Nobody: 6:19pm On Dec 30, 2010
World population=6 billion+
Muslim population=1.5 billion+
STATISTIC: 1 Muslims(25%), 3 others


Nigeria population=150 million+
Muslim population=75 million+
STATISTIC: 1 Muslims(50%), 1 others

If Islam is a terror religion(as you most of want it to be), with the capacity for senseless killing and the level of violence, the terrorist have been able to demonstrate_ _ _

If Muslims have the mandate to kill non-Muslims as the terrorist proclaim and you would rather believe, despite repeated attempt by Muslims to educate you of their creed_ _ _

If 1 suicide bomber kills on average of 10 people, with every successful terrorist act_ _ _
_ _ _What is the possibility of you been alive?

Do you want Christianity to be judge by the action of Rev. King(human torture), Helen Ukpabio (child witch burning) etc. What have you done to address their extremist acts?

See what Muslim clerics have been up to (you won't see this on CNN, ALJAZEERA, FOX, BBC etc.)

[url=
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irPt0Vu4cFg&feature=related[/b]]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irPt0Vu4cFg&feature=related[/url]

You cannot define a 1.5 billion strong faith-group with the action of a few wicked soul who would justify their madness anyway.

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Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by smithll: 8:11pm On Dec 30, 2010
ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE. IT PREACHES PEACE. IT SYMBOLISES PEACE, AND THROUGH PEACE IT WAS FOUNDED. It is quite disheartening seeing few misguided people misquoting the good teachings of prophet MUHAMMED(S.A.W). May ALLAH(S.W.T) guide them to the right path so that they will stop all this sporandic killings and tarnishing of good image of ISLAM (AMEN).
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by Nobody: 8:51pm On Dec 30, 2010
@beaf: its dfclt 2seprate thier culture frm their religion. Tk 4example, islam is nt against child marrage & d hausa fulani practice it both as a religion & a culture as well. Non hausa muslims dnt do child marrage cos its nt part of thier culture though allowed by thier religion. So its a huge task to identify what moslem hausa fulani culture truely is outside d dictates of their religion. Mind u what sani yerima is dng with an under age girl has koranic back up which is also a way of life 4dis people. So its just a complex issue.
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by Barkono: 12:13am On Dec 31, 2010
edoyad:
Sharap ! Stop kidding yourself. Nigeriam Muslims don't have a problem, it's hausa people who have a problem. I was born in lagos and i don't think lag has ever had a democratically elected christian governor but is still the pride of Nigeria.

Na your people get problem, HAUSA PEOPLE. Same problem we had with you here in kaduna, enemies of progress, destined to be doomed.
There has never been a time in the history of Nigeria, that a Hausa man has been denigrated like now. I don't think you are correct by expounding that it is the Hausa man that is the problem. Have
you forgotten so soon the massacre and butcher of innocent lives of Hausas by the OPC in Idi-Araba/Ishaga axis of Lagos. The brutal massacre of Hausas in Shagamu and some part of South Western Nigeria?
This resort to vilification, and half truth spread by semi illiterate like you, is really troubling.
If we want to solve the problems of Nigeria, we the younger generation, have to do away with name calling and the actions of a very few amongst us, who out of poverty and hunger cause mayhem to lives and properties of innocent people. Seventy percent of business owners in Jos, Plateau State, are non natives. Another sixty percent of car dealers in Jos, Plateau state are Hausa. Today, we have seen how their investment, had been looted, burnt and their means of livelihood gone through the actions of the so called natives, yet no compensation, and nobody is saying anything about it. And I think, the first Nigerian Leader that dealt a blow to Boko Haram, is a Hausa man. Umar Yar'Adua,he gave them a taste of his bile. He didn't treat them with kids glove, unlike the present leadership.
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by Beaf: 12:56am On Dec 31, 2010
byrron:

@beaf: its dfclt 2seprate thier culture frm their religion. Tk 4example, islam is nt against child marrage & d hausa fulani practice it both as a religion & a culture as well. Non hausa muslims dnt do child marrage cos its nt part of thier culture though allowed by thier religion. So its a huge task to identify what moslem hausa fulani culture truely is outside d dictates of their religion. Mind u what sani yerima is dng with an under age girl has koranic back up which is also a way of life 4dis people. So its just a complex issue.

Culture always colors religion, because culture is the lens through which we see the outside World. This is backed by the fact that Islam is practised in places like Northern Edo state and the SW, but we don't have child marriages, almajiri's and the rioting habit in those places. Its about cultural practices not Islam.

The rest of the country needs to confront these cultures diplomatically and firmly. We must not give the impression of being scornful, but at the same time we must work to dicisively stamp out all cultures and traditions that lead to troublemaking.
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by violent(m): 1:13am On Dec 31, 2010
The vital question remains if Islam is a religion of peace as claimed, and we decide to shift the blame to the Hausa, why is it still that every biazzare terrorist event known to mankind is born under the umbrella of this peaceful religion.

Why don't we find Hausa/almajiri atheists committing these same acts?.

Let's quit being stúpid, it wouldn't do anyone any good, the things being taught in most islamic schools contain extreme contents and cannot be ignored, it
s akin to brainwashing home grown terrorist, how soon do should we start expecting suicide bombers in Nigeria while we try to shift the blame to the "Hausas" in general?

The government should regulate all Islamic schools and a vast majority of them should be shut down!
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by Beaf: 1:35am On Dec 31, 2010
violent:

The vital question remains if Islam is a religion of peace as claimed, and we decide to shift the blame to the Hausa, why is it still that every biazzare terrorist event known to mankind is born under the umbrella of this peaceful religion.

Why don't we find Hausa/almajiri atheists committing these same acts?.

Let's quit being stúpid, it wouldn't do anyone any good, the things being taught in most islamic schools contain extreme contents and cannot be ignored, it
s akin to brainwashing home grown terrorist, how soon do should we start expecting suicide bombers in Nigeria while we try to shift the blame to the "Hausas" in general?

The government should regulate all Islamic schools and a vast majority of them should be shut down!

Enh?!
How many Hausa atheists do you know? how many atheist almajiri's do you know?

You hit the nail on the head with the mention of curriculum of Koranic schools though. The question is, why would the Koranic schools in the core North teach extreme topics while those in Edo state and the SW don't? Why are there almajiri's in the core North, but none in Edo state?
It all boils down to cultural beliefs. It isn't a religious problem.

The almajiri issue and other age old traditions that have been Islamised is a very delicate one that must be approached with firmness and understanding. It is my opinion that govt must offer highly targeted incentives that are too delicious too be refused and then begin to apply heavy and concerted pressure, again through highly targeted means. The cultural turn around can be done diplomatically and that approach will succeed stunningly within less than 3 years.
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by edoyad(m): 5:13am On Dec 31, 2010
There has never been a time in the history of Nigeria, that a Hausa man has been denigrated like now. I don't think you are correct by expounding that it is the Hausa man that is the problem. Have you forgotten so soon the massacre and butcher of innocent lives of Hausas by the OPC in Idi-Araba/Ishaga axis of Lagos. The brutal massacre of Hausas in Shagamu and some part of South Western Nigeria? This resort to vilification, and half truth spread by semi illiterate like you, is really troubling. If we want to solve the problems of Nigeria, we the younger generation, have to do away with name calling and the actions of a very few amongst us, who out of poverty and hunger cause mayhem to lives and properties of innocent people. Seventy percent of business owners in Jos, Plateau State, are non natives. Another sixty percent of car dealers in Jos, Plateau state are Hausa. Today, we have seen how their investment, had been looted, burnt and their means of livelihood gone through the actions of the so called natives, yet no compensation, and nobody is saying anything about it. And I think, the first Nigerian Leader that dealt a blow to Boko Haram, is a Hausa man. Umar Yar'Adua,he gave them a taste of his bile.    He didn't treat them with kids glove, unlike the present leadership.

Then i guess the sahara wind is the problem then.
Just check out your society before you post anything here again.
You want to sell cars and cows in peace in other people's towns but oppress others in your own home states, right ?

Personally i've got nothing to add to this topic, i stand on my point that as long as Nigeria remains one country, it will not move forward. Breaking up this country, with various groups going their seperate ways is the best we can hope for. Then we'll see how prosperous and peacefully you'll exist.
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by BetaThings: 6:08am On Dec 31, 2010
violent:

The vital question remains if Islam is a religion of peace as claimed, and we decide to shift the blame to the Hausa, why is it still that every biazzare terrorist event known to mankind is born under the umbrella of this peaceful religion.

Why don't we find Hausa/almajiri atheists committing these same acts?.

Let's quit being stúpid, it wouldn't do anyone any good, the things being taught in most islamic schools contain extreme contents and cannot be ignored, it
s akin to brainwashing home grown terrorist, how soon do should we start expecting suicide bombers in Nigeria while we try to shift the blame to the "Hausas" in general?

The government should regulate all Islamic schools and a vast majority of them should be shut down!

Do you really know the history of terrorism? If you want to know about violence, pick up a copy of the current edition of The Economist. Luckily, you are in the UK. Read about the frightening violence of war in medieval ENGLAND.
On the internet, you can read stories about the Romans. Some of them fed their slaves to animals
As recently as 1939, the Japanese after invading China were cutting open bellies of pregnant women, throwing up babies and catching them with bayonets etc
Right now in Afghanistan, American soldiers are being tried for killing innocent civilian Afghanis and claiming that they attacked them
If you read some portions of the Bible, you will shudder at the intensity of hate and violence recommended.

What is important is that we should avoid going to war - the innocent (children and women) always suffer in a war. Above all, in a war, man will show he is a beast.
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by BetaThings: 6:16am On Dec 31, 2010
Barkono:

edoyad:
Sharap ! Stop kidding yourself. Nigeriam Muslims don't have a problem, it's hausa people who have a problem. I was born in lagos and i don't think lag has ever had a democratically elected christian governor but is still the pride of Nigeria.

Na your people get problem, HAUSA PEOPLE. Same problem we had with you here in kaduna, enemies of progress, destined to be doomed.
There has never been a time in the history of Nigeria, that a Hausa man has been denigrated like now. I don't think you are correct by expounding that it is the Hausa man that is the problem. Have
you forgotten so soon the massacre and butcher of innocent lives of Hausas by the OPC in Idi-Araba/Ishaga axis of Lagos. The brutal massacre of Hausas in Shagamu and some part of South Western Nigeria?
This resort to vilification, and half truth spread by semi illiterate like you, is really troubling.
If we want to solve the problems of Nigeria, we the younger generation, have to do away with name calling and the actions of a very few amongst us, who out of poverty and hunger cause mayhem to lives and properties of innocent people. Seventy percent of business owners in Jos, Plateau State, are non natives. Another sixty percent of car dealers in Jos, Plateau state are Hausa. Today, we have seen how their investment, had been looted, burnt and their means of livelihood gone through the actions of the so called natives, yet no compensation, and nobody is saying anything about it. And I think, the first Nigerian Leader that dealt a blow to Boko Haram, is a Hausa man. Umar Yar'Adua,he gave them a taste of his bile. He didn't treat them with kids glove, unlike the present leadership.


Barkono, your story is one-sided. Perhaps because of the sanistised version you were told. When the Hausas wanted to fight in Sagamu, they will make the call to prayer in the dead of the night and from there arrange how to slaughter the indigenes. Of course you know if you take Ibo, Hausa and Yoruba, the least militant will be the Yoruba. So what you say about them - just starting to kill Hausas - is out of character. I also recall a time when Hausas were holding Yorubas hostage in Agege during one of the June 12 crises. My point is that the Hausas were not innocent victims in all cases. On some occasions, they were aggressors.
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by BetaThings: 7:49am On Dec 31, 2010
okunoba:

@auwal87, u obviously don`t know much about Islamic history and present day World affairs. Talk is cheap, action speaks louder than words. If Islam was truly a religion of peace we wouldn`t have Muslims from all the four corners of the World killing and bombing innocent people, for Allah and his messenger. Islam was founded on violence and it`s followers have carried on the tradition. Tell me, how did Usman Danfodio spread Islam in Nigeria? How many raids and wars did Mohamed(PBUH) personally waged on the unbelievers? Read the hadith and Koran with an open mind and u will see that it`s filled with nothing but violence and vengeance. Islam is called imole in Yoruba, meaning forced knowledge.
What exactly do you want? The man should not rid his religion of extremism which is present in both Islam and Christianity? or he should join the Boko Haram people?

Anyway your post is a product of half education. How was Islam founded on violence. Christains have killed more people than muslims. Where are muslims bombing innocent people? In Iraq? Who started the war? What was the evidence? In afghanistan? Who is the brain behind all that violence - Bin Laden. who brought him up? The US.
How many people are doing the bombing? What is their population? What is the population of Muslims worldwide? Are they not renegades?

When was the last time a muslim country invaded a christian one. and vice versa. When was the last time a christian country invaded another and were innocent people bombed? - remember vietnam, WWI and II, Korean war, mexico, panama, Grenada

What was the purpose of the Saint Bartholomews Day Massacre? Who sanctioned it? Some renegades? The French War of Religion? The Gunpowder plot? The Battle of Lepanto? The Crusade?

Look at Spain - the 1492 Edict of Expulsion was meant to rid Spain of its Jews. Either they converted or were expelled. An estimated 50,000 fled to the Ottoman empire. More than this number converted and remained in Spain. But they were later confronted with the Inquisition during which they were, like Japanese Americans during WII, accused of insincerity. The muslims were later given the same choice and Spain almost entirely got rid of millions of people who were not Christians.

Have you read the Bible lately? The intensity of violence there is chilling!I notice that Christians tend to bait and taunt muslims a lot. If you want to debate this matter, please let us choose a time and venue.

Male does not mean forced knowledge. Ask people who know Yoruba. Further poser, why are some Yorubas called Ajomale and what is the full meaning of that name?
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by Nobody: 8:15am On Dec 31, 2010
Nt only r dey agresiv n prone 2 fightin dey r also filthy.dey r disgustingly dirty.go 2 any sabo in lagos.its filed wit human n material waste,open guter n d suprisin tin is dat dey'l eat there com4tably.i dnt knw how 2 describe dis ppu,bt dey r 1 of a kind n r so animalistic in behavior
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by BetaThings: 9:06am On Dec 31, 2010
kulyie:

Nt only r dey agresiv n prone 2 fightin dey r also filthy.dey r disgustingly dirty.go 2 any sabo in lagos.its filed wit human n material waste,open guter n d suprisin tin is dat dey'l eat there com4tably.i dnt knw how 2 describe dis ppu,bt dey r 1 of a kind n r so animalistic in behavior
How does your post contribute to the alleviation of the pain the OP is feeling?
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by smithll: 1:19pm On Dec 31, 2010
@ kulyie, you are really a one idio.tic fella for you to take only one point of view to collectivelly address a religious group in such manner. Using this avenue to show your ill mannerism is really uncalled for. You are just a misguided fellow and I would advice you to seek help very soon before it turns to something else. P.S talking of cleanliness? I am so damn sure you can't stand me.
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by illusion2: 4:08pm On Dec 31, 2010
I think I support auwal87's attempts to sanitise his religion & he needs not be villified for this. smiley

To the muslims trying to somehow link modern christianity with violence extremism- I think you are being disingenuous.

Like all religions Islam should have passed through its own dark ages,but its quite a shock to most people that in 2010,the extremist medievial ideas still permeate modern society. undecided

The blame isn't far-fetched its all due to the wahabbi madrasas(koranic schools) sponsored by Saudi Arabia.They never knew it would back fire spectacularly on them like this,but there you go. grin

The solution will not be simple,because the average terrorist really believes he has a reward in the after life from killing people & its difficult to change this mind-set. sad

Abi who no wan go heaven ? cheesy
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by Nobody: 7:12pm On Dec 31, 2010
osama bin laden is from saudi arabia he knows more of the quran than many of your muslim morons over here yet he encourages terrorism. so who are you now telling us that islam is a religion of piss
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by dSolution1: 9:25pm On Dec 31, 2010
2:62 "Those who believe, and the Jews,

and the Christians, and the Sabeans,

whoever believes in Allah and the Last

Day and does good, they shall have their

reward from their Lord, and there is no

fear for them, nor shall they grieve."

Genesis 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually ,

Mark 7:21 For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts ,
Alphabetical: adulteries adultery come evil For fornications from heart hearts immorality men men's murder murders of out proceed sexual the theft thefts ,
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by LoveKing(m): 9:30pm On Dec 31, 2010
You dsolution, please please please please remove that PICTURE. I beg you in the name of God. Its is not necessary.

PLEASE REMOVE IT NOW! its been on nairaland before and its a different story. Please dont pull child ice on this sensitive issue.

REMOVE IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by dSolution1: 9:49pm On Dec 31, 2010
LoveKing:

You dsolution, please please please please remove that PICTURE. I beg you in the name of God. Its is not necessary.

PLEASE REMOVE IT NOW! its been on nairaland before and its a different story. Please dont pull child ice on this sensitive issue.

REMOVE IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!

Loveking, sorry it hurts but the truth is that according to the bible "Man is evil" It did not say Muslims are evil. The bible says Man is a murderer, we are hiding behind sentiments, religious intolerance, ignorance, fear

even in America ,
"(CBS) In upstate New York, the people of Binghamton are still trying to figure out the rampage on Friday in which a gunman killed 13 people before turning his weapon on himself. As CBS News correspondent Jeff Glor reports, so are we all …After blocking the back door with his vehicle, Wong walked through the front door and began firing, killing one receptionist and wounding another, before moving on to a classroom filled with fellow immigrants and a teacher.

There, he took 12 more lives before taking his own.

One man whose wife was one of the victims asked, "What is it about American society that keeps turning out these kinds of people? What is it about our society that keeps driving people to do things like this?" http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/05/sunday/main4920311.shtml


Hundreds of more examples all over the world.
illusion2:


Like all religions Islam should have passed through its own dark ages,but its quite a shock to most people that in 2010,the extremist medievial ideas still permeate modern society. undecided

The solution will not be simple,because the average terrorist really believes he has a reward in the after life from killing people & its difficult to change this mind-set.

This has nothing to do with terrorism. It is all Economics. Money, land and property. Remember he who has political power controls the Money, Lands and property. The second world war was about economics. Just like Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan,

In Japan during the 2nd World War young men crashed their planes into American ships.


The bottom line is that The heart of man is evil.
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by LoveKing(m): 10:20pm On Dec 31, 2010
@dsolution

WHAT IS FVCKING WRONG WITH YOU!!!

THAT WAS AN ACCIDENT SCENE. DIDNT YOU READ THE STORY A WHILE AGO? WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR BRAIN?

WHY DO YOU ENJOY SEEING SPLIT BODIES AND BLOOD? WHAT DO YOU EVEN PREACH AT ALL?

PLEASE GET OFF NAIRALAND, AND REMOVE THAT OFFENSIVE PICTURE. WHY WOULD YOU BE SO HARD HEARTED?

GET IT OFF!!!!!!
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by BetaThings: 6:45am On Jan 01, 2011
illusion2:

I think I support auwal87's attempts to sanitise his religion & he needs not be villified for this. smiley

To the muslims trying to somehow link modern christianity with violence extremism- I think you are being disingenuous.

Like all religions Islam should have passed through its own dark ages,but its quite a shock to most people that in 2010,the extremist medievial ideas still permeate modern society. undecided

The blame isn't far-fetched its all due to the wahabbi madrasas(koranic schools) sponsored by Saudi Arabia.They never knew it would back fire spectacularly on them like this,but there you go. grin

The solution will not be simple,because the average terrorist really believes he has a reward in the after life from killing people & its difficult to change this mind-set. sad

Abi who no wan go heaven ? cheesy
You are wrong on Wahabi Islam, go and read a book by that title written by Prof Natana De Bass - a christian scholar in the US. You are also wrong on medieval practices. Let a christian nation be invaded by a foreign one, you will be shocked at the rapid stripping away of all that veneer of civilisation. Go and read stories about the Bosnia wars and you will be which shocked what happened in modern Europeans 20 years ago. Fela said this will bring is the beast in us. He was correct.

Abusing Saudi Arabia is cheap but wrong. Who provided the intelligence to stop the mail bomb? Do you know what the Saudis did to frustrate Al-Qaeda? Right now, they are building a wall at their border with Yemen. You think the terrorist who approached their minister of interior (with a bomb embedded in the terrorist's body) was being sponsored by that country

I repeat that if Ghandi had been killed by the CIA and a despot imposed, you think the 2 countries would have been so chummy today? There are always people who feel cheated. The ways they seek redress differ. Look at ND, Saro Wiwa did not believe in violence, MEND do. A Bin Laden believes that injustice to muslims must be repelled by force of arms - Iraqi invasion was unjust. Is the country now more peaceful now.

We can start by challenging people to publish the prophetic tradition that supports suicide under ANY circumstance. Suicide is a sin that one is not able to repent from and that should be emphasized.

Muttallab's action has not benefitted muslims. Not just because he failed. Even if he had succeeded, the "strip searching" of muslims would still have happened.
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by rasputinn(m): 9:30am On Jan 01, 2011
[size=16pt]Prophecy:so many enemies of God's children(especially the ones who have looted from this country's coffers and are using the stolen funds to sponsor bomb blasts,terror/ethnic attacks,launch presidential campaigns etc) will die this year[/size]
Re: Nigerian Muslims Lets Wake Up Before Boko Haram Hijacks Our Religion by comechop(m): 9:49am On Jan 01, 2011
you wonder if boko haram is 'hijacking' the religion - or actually truly living it out. . . .

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