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Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 4:07pm On Apr 02
Revelation 7:

As you can see from verse 4

4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

But from verse 9:

9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Countless of multitude shall be saved from the whole world.

Cc: Yorubakinging

Plus, it is not rapture before Antichrist but it is Antichrist before rapture
Not the other way round!


This is the verse referenced for rapture:

Mathew 24:
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

But check verse 37 of that same Mathew 24,

The rapture described in verses 40-41 was caused by verses 37

Mathew 24: 37

"36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

The rapture in verses 40 & 41 is caused by the COMING OF THE SON OF MAN.
Without Jesus appearance, there can be no rapture!

As also described in Thessalonians 4:16,

"1 Thessalonians 4:16
"16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

Without Jesus appearance, there can be no rapture!


The tribulation is what will cause the love of many, who aren't watching to wax cold.

Revelation 3:10,
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I will also keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell in the earth.

We shall all be tested!

Pass your test!

We get raptured when Christ appears and we get caught up with Him in the air (for those of us still alive by then).

Because from the Bible, we get caught up, or vanish, when we get caught up with Him in the air.

If Jesus doesn't show up, there CANNOT be a "rapturing"!

The rapture will not happen till after the tribulation as stated clearly in verse 3 below:

2 Thess 2:1-3

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

The rapture comes AFTER the tribulation!

OR, are you suggesting Jesus will come three times?
By three times I mean:
-His birth
-before tribulation and
-after tribulation?

Because, every time Scripture refers to rapture, it is in connection with the appearance of JESUS!
In connection with the second coming of Jesus!

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Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 4:09pm On Apr 02
Countless of multitude in addition to the 144,000 shall be saved from the whole world.
It is written clearly in Scriptures!

Cc: Yorubakinging


Plus, I shared earlier, it is not rapture before Antichrist but
The Antichrist comes first then the rapture comes later.

It is clearly stated in Scriptures

2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 4:12pm On Apr 02
Yorubakinging
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 5:22pm On Apr 02
Righteousness89
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Righteousness89(m): 5:25pm On Apr 02
Incrizz:
Revelation 7:

As you can see from verse 4


4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

But from verse 9:

9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.




Countless of multitude shall be saved from the whole world.

Cc: Yorubakinging


Plus, I shared earlier, it is not rapture before Antichrist but
The Antichrist comes first then the rapture comes later.

It is clearly stated in Scriptures


2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

My Sister, This is Proper Mis-interpretation of the Scriptures!

Don't Just pick one Verse in Reading the Scriptures. You Read from the top and also the bottom to have a Clearer Understanding!

The World has fallen away Big Time! The Man of Sin has also Revealed himself! It's Just that Many Believers are Sleeping!

The Saints whose Names are Written in the Biok of Life will not be here during the Great Tribulation.

The Great Tribulation is a 7year Period of the Reign of the anti christ! By this time , The Grace of GOD will not be on the Earth any longer.

At that time , the Antichrist is Given a leeway to Torment those who have Missed the Rapture.

The Great Tribulation is not for the Saints whose Names are in the Book of life.

Careless belivers who missed the Rapture will be Here to face the antichrist . They will have to pay with their blood if they are toMake it!

Don't Confuse yourself sister! Antichrist and his agents have Revealed themselves World over..

They are only Waiting for the Saints one taken away for them to Officially take over..

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Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 5:30pm On Apr 02
2 Thessalonians 2:

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

The rapture is not happening until after the Antichrist!

Cc: judedwriter
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 5:35pm On Apr 02
Righteousness89:


My Sister, This is Proper Mis-interpretation of the Scriptures!

Don't Just pick one Verse in Reading the Scriptures. You Read from the top and also the bottom to have a Clearer Understanding!

The rapture will not happen till after the tribulation

2 Thess 2:1-3

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Righteousness89(m): 5:43pm On Apr 02
Incrizz:


The rapture will not happen till after the tribulation

2 Thess 2:1-3

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Pray for Understanding! Before read your Bible!

Anyway I hate to Argue the Word of GOD!

Since you Choose to be Here, for the Tribulation!

So be it!

I will not be Here by GOD'S Grace! I will be in Heaven!

Enjoy Ma
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Lightangel65: 8:33pm On Apr 02
I wonder why this is in romance section.

But instead of wondering how many will be saved to give ourselves hope, let's try and live a holy life
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Jokerman(m): 8:36pm On Apr 02
Righteousness89:


My Sister, This is Proper Mis-interpretation of the Scriptures!

Don't Just pick one Verse in Reading the Scriptures. You Read from the top and also the bottom to have a Clearer Understanding!

The World has fallen away Big Time! The Man of Sin has also Revealed himself! It's Just that Many Believers are Sleeping!

The Saints whose Names are Written in the Biok of Life will not be here during the Great Tribulation.

The Great Tribulation is a 7year Period of the Reign of the anti christ! By this time , The Grace of GOD will not be on the Earth any longer.

At that time , the Antichrist is Given a leeway to Torment those who have Missed the Rapture.

The Great Tribulation is not for the Saints whose Names are in the Book of life.

Careless belivers who missed the Rapture will be Here to face the antichrist . They will have to pay with their blood if they are toMake it!

Don't Confuse yourself sister! Antichrist and his agents have Revealed themselves World over..

They are only Waiting for the Saints one taken away for them to Officially take over..

Hmmmmm..... I try to read Matthew 24 over and over... It talked about the tribulation before the appearance of the Lord Jesus Christ
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Nggs121: 10:42pm On Apr 02
Stupid fools everywhere

Bleep the christian god
Bleep the op for making me dumber by reading this
Bleep all the religious commentators for stressing my eyes
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Righteousness89(m): 11:27pm On Apr 02
Jokerman:


Hmmmmm..... I try to read Matthew 24 over and over... It talked about the tribulation before the appearance of the Lord Jesus Christ

Not the Great Tribulation! Believers are Passing through Trials, Persecutions , Tribulations! Many have been killed because of their Faith in JESUS CHRIST..

The Great Tribulation is the 7 years reign of the antichrist.. the antichrist has been Revealed but he cannot Operate as he wants now until the saints are taken away!

Read the book of Revelation!

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Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by judedwriter(m): 1:45am On Apr 03
Incrizz:
2 Thessalonians 2 verses

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.[\b]

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: [b]for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;


The rapture is not happening until after the Antichrist!

Cc: judedwriter

The day of Christ most likely means the 2nd coming of Jesus physically to earth not the rapture.
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 10:52am On Apr 07
This is the verse referenced for rapture:


Mathew 24:
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

But check verse 37 of that same Mathew 24,

The rapture described in verses 40-41 was caused by verses 37

Mathew 24: 37

"36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

The rapture in verses 40 & 41 is caused by the COMING OF THE SON OF MAN.
Without Jesus apperance, there can be no rapture!

As also described in Thessalonians 4:16,

"1 Thessalonians 4:16
"16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

Without Jesus apperance, there can be no rapture!


The tribulation is what will cause the love of many, who aren't watching to wax cold.

Revelation 3:10,
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I will also keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell in the earth.

We shall all be tested!

Pass your test!

We get raptured when Christ appears and we get caught up with Him in the air (for those of us still alive by then).

Because from the Bible, we get caught up, or vanish, when we get caught up with Him in the air.

If Jesus doesn't show up, there CANNOT be a "rapturing"!

OR, are you suggesting Jesus will come three times?
By three times I mean:
-His birth
-before tribulation and
-after tribulation?

Because, everytime -Scripture refers to rapture, it is in connection with the appearance of JESUS!


Kachi11061998
Wolgrace
Yorubakinging
Judedwriter
Righteousness89

The rapture will not happen till after the tribulation as stated clearly in verse 3 below:

2 Thess 2:1-3

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Jokerman(m): 12:32pm On Apr 07
Incrizz:
This is the verse referenced for rapture:


Mathew 24:
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

But check verse 37 of that same Mathew 24,

The rapture described in verses 40-41 was caused by verses 37

Mathew 24: 37

"36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

The rapture in verses 40 & 41 is caused by the COMING OF THE SON OF MAN.
Without Jesus apperance, there can be no rapture!

As also described in Thessalonians 4:16,

"1 Thessalonians 4:16
"16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

Without Jesus apperance, there can be no rapture!


The tribulation is what will cause the love of many, who aren't watching to wax cold.

Revelation 3:10,
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I will also keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell in the earth.

We shall all be tested!

Pass your test!

We get raptured when Christ appears and we get caught up with Him in the air (for those of us still alive by then).

Because from the Bible, we get caught up, or vanish, when we get caught up with Him in the air.

If Jesus doesn't show up, there CANNOT be a "rapturing"!

OR, are you suggesting Jesus will come three times?
By three times I mean:
-His birth
-before tribulation and
-after tribulation?

Because, everytime -Scripture refers to rapture, it is in connection with the appearance of JESUS!


Kachi11061998
Wolgrace
Yorubakinging
Judedwriter
Righteousness89

The rapture will not happen till after the tribulation as stated clearly in verse 3 below:

2 Thess 2:1-3

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

You are right, tribulation precedes the rapture... Even St Paul said somewhere, "it is with great tribulation, we'd see the kingdom of God"... God will help is during those times... Amen!!

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Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 3:10pm On Apr 07
Jokerman:


You are right, tribulation precedes the rapture... Even St Paul said somewhere, "it is with great tribulation, we'd see the kingdom of God"... God will help is during those times... Amen!!

God bless you Sir.
Kindly explain also to your siblings and loved ones so that they can watch and pray.
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by mechanics(m): 4:32pm On Apr 07
It's rapture first then the Antichrist.
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 3:37pm On Apr 12
mechanics:
It's rapture first then the Antichrist.
Cc: Petra1

is not rapture before Antichrist but it is Antichrist before rapture
Not the other way round!


This is the verse referenced for rapture:

Mathew 24:
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

But check verse 37 of that same Mathew 24,

The rapture described in verses 40-41 was caused by verses 37

Mathew 24: 37

"36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

The rapture in verses 40 & 41 is caused by the COMING OF THE SON OF MAN.
Without Jesus appearance, there can be no rapture!

As also described in Thessalonians 4:16,

"1 Thessalonians 4:16
"16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

Without Jesus appearance, there can be no rapture!


The tribulation is what will cause the love of many, who aren't watching to wax cold.

Revelation 3:10,
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I will also keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell in the earth.

We shall all be tested!

Pass your test!

We get raptured when Christ appears and we get caught up with Him in the air (for those of us still alive by then).

Because from the Bible, we get caught up, or vanish, when we get caught up with Him in the air.

If Jesus doesn't show up, there CANNOT be a "rapturing"!

The rapture will not happen till after the tribulation as stated clearly in verse 3 below:

2 Thess 2:1-3

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

The rapture comes AFTER the tribulation!

OR, are you suggesting Jesus will come three times?
By three times I mean:
-His birth
-before tribulation and
-after tribulation?

Because, every time Scripture refers to rapture, it is in connection with the appearance of JESUS!
In connection with the second coming of Jesus!
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 3:45pm On Apr 12
Nggs121:
Stupid fools everywhere

Bleep the christian god
Bleep the op for making me dumber by reading this
Bleep all the religious commentators for stressing my eyes
Lol @bolded.

That's quite some hatred! What influenced these feelings?
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by mechanics(m): 5:06pm On Apr 12
Incrizz:

Cc: Petra1

is not rapture before Antichrist but it is Antichrist before rapture
Not the other way round!


This is the verse referenced for rapture:

Mathew 24:
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

But check verse 37 of that same Mathew 24,

The rapture described in verses 40-41 was caused by verses 37

Mathew 24: 37

"36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

The rapture in verses 40 & 41 is caused by the COMING OF THE SON OF MAN.
Without Jesus appearance, there can be no rapture!

As also described in Thessalonians 4:16,

"1 Thessalonians 4:16
"16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

Without Jesus appearance, there can be no rapture!


The tribulation is what will cause the love of many, who aren't watching to wax cold.

Revelation 3:10,
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I will also keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell in the earth.

We shall all be tested!

Pass your test!

We get raptured when Christ appears and we get caught up with Him in the air (for those of us still alive by then).

Because from the Bible, we get caught up, or vanish, when we get caught up with Him in the air.

If Jesus doesn't show up, there CANNOT be a "rapturing"!

The rapture will not happen till after the tribulation as stated clearly in verse 3 below:

2 Thess 2:1-3

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

The rapture comes AFTER the tribulation!

OR, are you suggesting Jesus will come three times?
By three times I mean:
-His birth
-before tribulation and
-after tribulation?

Because, every time Scripture refers to rapture, it is in connection with the appearance of JESUS!
In connection with the second coming of Jesus!
I still maintain my ground.
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by petra1(m): 7:28pm On Apr 12
Incrizz:

Cc: Petra1

is not rapture before Antichrist but it is Antichrist before rapture
Not the other way round!


This is the verse referenced for rapture:

Mathew 24:
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Not so lady . Firstly there are different kinds of rapture . Jesus was raptured , the church will be raptured , there’s also mid tribulation rapture . The 144,000 of Jews will be raptured , the two witnesses will be raptured etc . So there is about 7 raptures in the Bible some have passed some are yet to come .

Back to our discussion . The church will be raptured before tribulation but there are saint during the tribulation who will be raptured after resurrection from persecution

2 Thessalonians 2:5-7
Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Nggs121: 7:40pm On Apr 12
Incrizz:

Lol @bolded.

That's quite some hatred! What influenced these feelings?

Just contempt for stupidity sweetie
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by ideology(m): 8:01pm On Apr 12
Incrizz:


The rapture will not happen till after the tribulation

2 Thess 2:1-3

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Hi dear

Nice discussion, but it seems you are mixing up rapture and the second coming of the Lord.

Rapture is different from second coming
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 11:24pm On Apr 12
ideology:


Hi dear

Nice discussion, but it seems you are mixing up rapture and the second coming of the Lord.

Rapture is different from second coming


Kindly read till the end dear.

It is not rapture before Antichrist but it is Antichrist before rapture
Not the other way round!


This is the verse referenced for rapture:

Mathew 24:
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

But check verse 37 of that same Mathew 24,

The rapture described in verses 40-41 was caused by verses 37

Mathew 24: 37

"36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

The rapture in verses 40 & 41 is caused by the COMING OF THE SON OF MAN.
Without Jesus appearance, there can be no rapture!

As also described in Thessalonians 4:16,

"1 Thessalonians 4:16
"16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

Without Jesus appearance, there can be no rapture!


The tribulation is what will cause the love of many, who aren't watching to wax cold.

Revelation 3:10,
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I will also keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell in the earth.

We shall all be tested!

Pass your test!

We get raptured when Christ appears and we get caught up with Him in the air (for those of us still alive by then).

Because from the Bible, we get caught up, or vanish, when we get caught up with Him in the air.

If Jesus doesn't show up, there CANNOT be a "rapturing"!

The rapture will not happen till after the tribulation as stated clearly in verse 3 below:

2 Thess 2:1-3

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

The rapture comes AFTER the tribulation!

OR, are you suggesting Jesus will come three times?
By three times I mean:
-His birth
-before tribulation and
-after tribulation?

Because, every time Scripture refers to rapture, it is in connection with the appearance of JESUS!
In connection with the second coming of Jesus!
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 11:26pm On Apr 12
Nggs121:


Just contempt for stupidity sweetie

Hm.
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by ideology(m): 6:41pm On Apr 13
Incrizz:



Kindly read till the end dear.



We are meeting with him in the air, he is not coming to earth.

After we are gone, the anti Christ will rule for 7 years before the second coming.

You are mixing up rapture and second coming.

If Jesus comes to the earth and we are taken up, what happens on earth?
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by ideology(m): 6:42pm On Apr 13
The second coming is the ammargedon.
Then his millennial reign on earth
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 10:36pm On Apr 13
ideology:


We are meeting with him in the air, he is not coming to earth.

After we are gone, the anti Christ will rule for 7 years before the second coming.

You are mixing up rapture and second coming.

If Jesus comes to the earth and we are taken up, what happens on earth?


Did you read my last quote at all Sir? It seems to me you didn't. I am unable to retype. Sorry.
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 12:39am On Apr 14
ideology:


We are meeting with him in the air, he is not coming to earth.

After we are gone, the anti Christ will rule for 7 years before the second coming.

You are mixing up rapture and second coming.

If Jesus comes to the earth and we are taken up, what happens on earth



You are humble, you are blessed.

(I am having difficulty typing with this particular phone, so I will summarise:

That was why I insisted you read my long quote: His second coming is what causes us to rapture.

Christ second coming signals the end of the world and the end of the reign of the beast and the Antichrist.
That world would be destroyed at Christ's 2nd coming.
Every child of God who has not received the Mark of the beast and who is not dead yet, will be 'magneted' to HIM in the sky.


2 Peter 3:10, KJV: "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

The second (there is no 3rd coming) coming of Jesus, signals the end of the world, the beast (not the dragon Satan) and his false prophet the Antichrist; they will be cast into the lake of fire.

Satan will be bound for 1000 years.

The Marriage super of the Lamb for that 1000 years with those people who triumphed over the beast is in Heaven.

After the 1000 years, is Armageddon where the devil will be released from the dungeon and will be defeated without hands in the twinkle of an eye and cast into the lake of fire where the beast and Antichrist are already.

After this, the judgement of every dead person. Anyone who is not found written in the book of life will not make Heaven.

After this, the new Heaven and Earth will come down from God.

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”

Just let me know what part of what I wrote is not clear or you need Scripture for.
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by ideology(m): 2:07am On Apr 14
Incrizz:


You are humble, you are blessed.

(I am having difficulty typing with this particular phone, so I will summarise:

That was why I insisted you read my long quote: His second coming is what causes us to rapture.

Christ second coming signals the end of the world and the end of the reign of the beast and the Antichrist.
That world would be destroyed at Christ's 2nd coming.
Every child of God who has not received the Mark of the beast and who is not dead yet, will be 'magneted' to HIM in the sky.


2 Peter 3:10, KJV: "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

The second (there is no 3rd coming) coming of Jesus, signals the end of the world, the beast (not the dragon Satan) and his false prophet the Antichrist.

Satan will be bound for 1000 years.

The Marriage super of the Lamb for that 1000 years with those people who triumphed over the beast is in Heaven.

After the 1000 years, is Armageddon where the devil will be released from the dungeon and will be defeated without hands in the twinkle of an eye and cast into the lake of fire where the beast and Antichrist are already.

After this, the judgement of every dead person. Anyone who is not found written in the book of life will not make Heaven.

After this, the new Heaven and Earth will come down from God.

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”

Just let me know what part of what I wrote is not clear or you need Scripture for.

I may not have the time to refer to the scriptures.

Persecutions will start.
The rapture, rapture is not second coming, he will receive us in the air.

When we get to heaven, there we have the feast.

While on earth, there will be tribulation while the anti Christ rules for 7 years

After the 7 years is the second coming, we are coming with him, then Armageddon.

Devil bounded

1000 years of Jesus Christ reigning
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 9:11pm On Apr 14
Sunnyvision
Re: Not Only 144, 000 Will Be Be Saved Please. See Why by Incrizz(f): 9:15pm On Apr 14
Incrizz:


You are humble, you are blessed.

(I am having difficulty typing with this particular phone, so I will summarise:

That was why I insisted you read my long quote: His second coming is what causes us to rapture.

Christ second coming signals the end of the world and the end of the reign of the beast and the Antichrist.
That world would be destroyed at Christ's 2nd coming.
Every child of God who has not received the Mark of the beast and who is not dead yet, will be 'magneted' to HIM in the sky.


2 Peter 3:10, KJV: "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

The second (there is no 3rd coming) coming of Jesus, signals the end of the world, the beast (not the dragon Satan) and his false prophet the Antichrist; they will be cast into the lake of fire.

Satan will be bound for 1000 years.

The Marriage super of the Lamb for that 1000 years with those people who triumphed over the beast is in Heaven.

After the 1000 years, is Armageddon where the devil will be released from the dungeon and will be defeated without hands in the twinkle of an eye and cast into the lake of fire where the beast and Antichrist are already.

After this, the judgement of every dead person. Anyone who is not found written in the book of life will not make Heaven.

After this, the new Heaven and Earth will come down from God.

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”

Just let me know what part of what I wrote is not clear or you need Scripture for.

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