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Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by nsiba: 11:40pm On Apr 04, 2020
SCIENTIFIC REJOINDER ON 5G.

*Below are submissions of three professors of radiation physics in UI copied from Science Faculty platform to debunk the narratives in the trending audio on 5G

Dr Popoola submission:

The man who made this audio message can be likened to someone who is interpreting a strange language he has never studied. He does not know what he's saying.

In a simple language, the so called 5G (fifth generation) is a transmission at far higher frequency range than 4G. This feature implies transmission of greater quantum of energy (signal) per time, hence heavy data (such as images) will download faster and will be transmitted at higher resolution. Meanwhile this may require more booster antennas at closer ranges in order to travel very far because high frequency signals get attenuated faster than low frequency signals. In short 5G will be able to accommodate larger data than 4G.

Generally, people have always displayed some fear each time a new technology arose. The fear attributed to mobile technology is that the signals (waves) are injurious to humans.

Meanwhile, all mobile signals must fall within microwaves (extreme end of radio waves) which are non ionizing radiations. Ionizing radiations like x-rays and gamma rays have far higher frequencies and exposure to human body may be injurious. However are not used for mobile telecommunication.

The man's use of the word 'radioactive' reveals that he is completely ignorant of what he claims to be explaining. The word Radioactive is from Radioactivity which is a completely different phenomenon from radio wave. Technology is more than speculation. It is a product of basic scientific theories.

Prof Farai wrote:

������I remain proud of you Tunde. Just look at the confidence with which he was talking nonsense. I was just wondering how I would present a rejoinder in a language that we will all understand and without sounding know it all. You have captured all with the appropriate words. It is now up to anybody to allow him/herself to be misled. God bless you richly, my brother.

Prof Jibri submission:
I really don't understand over stretching of a simple scientific matter. Simple basic physics which our Prof. Farai has laid to rest for us as a guru in Radiation business. Use E = hf from modern Physics and the frequencies or the wavelengths of the regions for the G's what amount of energy do you arrive at. Just like Prof. Farai said, mixing up non-ionizing radiation source to be Radioactive is a simple QED ignoramus!!

Prof Farai:
I hope we will all understand the nonsense in this video from this simple explanation. Communication networks of whatever G, for now and in the near future, are generally in frequencies of the order of Giga Hertz (GHz or 10⁹ Hz). Thank God the video revealed this much. Meanwhile, the bulk of energy from the sun (solar radiation) is in the UV frequency range (i.e.10¹⁵ Hz). Now I ask, how can mankind, who has been bathing under the shower of UV radiation from the sun over the ages, now be under any threat of a radiation of energy over 1 million times less energy than UV radiation? That is one point.

Most importantly for us on this platform, there is no application of a technology that is not under any regulatory control by international bodies made up experts from all parts of globe. Most of us have one thing or the other to do with such bodies as WHO, ICNIRC, UNSCEAR, etc. If they are unaware of the fears expressed in this video or have been compromised, then we are all guilty. We should stop attending their programmes.

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Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by Topmaike007(m): 11:41pm On Apr 04, 2020
Staphylococcus:


Stop what?

Where do you brew news?
don't mind the guy he is just saying trash
Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by litaninja(m): 11:45pm On Apr 04, 2020
You haven't learnt anything.
You need to return your certificate.

GuestLog:
I do not have knowledge of what dangers lurk in the arsenal of 5G frequency wave. One thing I understand really well is that 4G mobile masts are rumoured to cause cancer due to radiation exposure.

Now 5G is 10x more powerful than all other sub class frequency before it.

I've been learning so much about frequencies and it's a scary topic.

Did you know that the human body can pick up these harmful frequencies because of the electrons in our nervous system? You hack the nervous system through frequencies, you attack the brain because they work hand in hand.

We humans are nothing but antennas to higher spiritual frequencies, the universe is made up of frequencies, that is why we can connect to emotions, feelings, universal laws, spiritual gateways, etc. Which we feel and know but cannot see.

If 5G is as powerful as claimed, then there could be some truth in all the rumours.

One thing to note is that the walls of Jericho fell down because of the frequency from the blast of trumpets and when God said "Let There Be" (that is straight up frequency which has continued to create life on our mud planet.
Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by Mosthandsomeboy(m): 11:51pm On Apr 04, 2020
Enjoying the comments

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Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by Annie001: 11:51pm On Apr 04, 2020
aspirebig:
How will this stop a scammer from being a scammer

This is the face of Damilare Emmanuel Olusegun.
This guy collects money for services and disappears.
How can you be ugly and still scam
Na wa ooo

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Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by kingxsamz(m): 11:52pm On Apr 04, 2020
Kylekent59:


Don't worry, they will give you likes.

Shea that's what you want?

You will see many.

That's your problem.
If you're smart enough, you'd see the point I'm trying to make.
Just because a rumor is flying around doesn't make it true or have any form of truth in it.
Many people have been sharing this rumour on whatsapp, without even knowing what 5g is all about. All they know is that 5g is the cause of coronaVirus.
If you don't see any sense in what I said, I leave you to your ignorance.

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Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by VicM6: 11:56pm On Apr 04, 2020
5G does not cause Corona virus. corona and 5G are all different levels but 5G is more deadly than corona 100times.
our micro waves at home has 6X radio wave and can boil water to 100 degree census in 3mins. The 5G network has about 60X....Now imagine the harm it will cause to human if installed in public places, the wave will drain people's blood and so.
Corona is a virus on it's own and 5G is more of a highly classified virus.. why do u think the chinese are destroying the 5G antenna. The 5G satellite was first installed in Wuhan 2019.




I repeat, the 5G is more deadly the Corona.
Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by Eloho29(f): 11:57pm On Apr 04, 2020
aminulive:
Nigerians on Saturday woke up to viral information being spread about the 5G technology and its connection to the novel coronavirus(COVID-19).

In fact, it generated controversies amongst social media users until the point when '5G' was listed amongst the top trending keywords on Twitter. Although similar speculations had sprung up a few days ago, a prominent fact-checking platform, AFP, found the claims to be unfounded.

"Numerous conspiracy theories shared on and off social media claim that 5G mobile networks are the cause of the novel coronavirus pandemic. This is false; experts told AFP that 5G is based on radio frequency and that this does not create viruses." AFP wrote.

However, the same claims gained more momentum and generated more furore when former Aviation minister, Fani Kayode and Senator Dino Melaye, tweeted about it. A lot of Nigerians are now calling for a boycott of the technology since the coronavirus and 5G conspiracy theory emerged.

POLITICS NIGERIA, in its support for accountability media, finds it expedient to fact check their claims.

CLAIMS: "If people knew what was unfolding & what satan & his Illuminati agents, his disciples like @elonmusk & @BillGates & the proponents of the New World Order have in mind & are doing with 5G, coronavirus &the coming Anti-coronavirus vaccines, every Christian & Muslim would join forces & PRAY!" Mr Fani-Kayode posted on Twitter.

The tweet which was posted around 00:01 am on Friday garnered over 800 retweets and 3,000 likes.

In subsequent posts on Saturday, he cautioned that Nigerians should protest against the introduction of 5G to Nigeria. In the same light, Mr Melaye, who claimed to have been doing research on the Conspiracy theory, advised that the Federal government should demobilise all 5G networks in Nigeria.

"Whether it is true or not that they are already laying cables of 5G in Nigeria or not. Govt must not allow it in Nigeria and should take a proactive step in that regard. 4G that is here in Nigeria sef na problem. 3G dey do everything I need I beg... We must watch out," He posted on Twitter.

Mr Melaye's tweet, as at 6:12 pm on Saturday, has 1312 retweets and 6706 likes.

VERIFICATION: As at the time of putting up this publication, the duo are yet to share the sources of their information.

What is 5G technology?

According to PC Mag, an international magazine, 5G stands for fifth-generation cellular wireless, and the initial standards for it were set at the end of 2017.

It is an upgrade from 4G LTE which uses 'massive' MIMO (multiple input, multiple output) antennas that have very large numbers of antenna elements or connections to send and receive more data simultaneously. It is not transmitted via CABLES.

The benefit to users is that more people can simultaneously connect to the network and maintain high outputs.

While 3G networks had a typical response time of 100 milliseconds, 4G is around 30 milliseconds and 5G will be as low as 1 millisecond. That is how fast it can go, emfexplained.info, a website that provides information about electromagnetic fields, noted.

Health Concerns

The Public Health England says while it is possible that there may be a small increase in overall exposure to radio waves when 5G is added to an existing network or in a new area, “the overall exposure is expected to remain low relative to guidelines and, as such, there should be no consequences for public health.”

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/5g-technologies-radio-waves-and-health/5g-technologies-radio-waves-and-health

Also, the World Health Organisation, WHO, in 2005, raised concerns about the unprecedented increase in the number and diversity of electromagnetic field (EMF) sources.

https://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/fs296/en/

According to WHO, these sources include video display units (VDUs) associated with computers, mobile phones and their base stations.

"While these devices have made our life richer, safer and easier, they have been accompanied by concerns about possible health risks due to their EMF emissions."

The WHO added that exposure to EMF sources can cause Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity (EHS).EHS symptoms most commonly experienced include dermatological symptoms (redness, tingling, and burning sensations) as well as neurasthenic and vegetative symptoms (fatigue, tiredness, concentration difficulties, dizziness, nausea, heart palpitation, and digestive disturbances).

"The collection of symptoms is not part of any recognized Syndrome," the global health body noted.

On the other hand, Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses which may cause illness in animals or humans.
In humans, several coronaviruses are known to cause respiratory infections ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases such as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS).

The most recently discovered coronavirus is the deadly COVID-19, which is currently ravaging the world. https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses.

There are no links between radiation and viruses against the insinuations of the two politicians. A Popular Fact-checking organization based in the UK, Full Fact has explored these claims concluding that there is no known evidence or proof that 5G can cause or is accelerating the spread of COVID-19.

There is no scientific evidence that links the coronavirus pandemic to 5G, nor any immediate negative health effects to 5G.

5G network not yet in Nigeria - FG

The Minister of Communication and Digital Economy, Isa Pantami, on Saturday, has denied the deployment of 5G network. The minister said the decision was borne out of the government's efforts to protect the lives of Nigerians. He said the National Frequency Management Council (NFMC), is yet to deliberate on the deployment of the network and that no license has been issued for the deployment of 5G in the country.

"A 3-month study trial commenced on the 25th of November, 2019 in order to critically review and study the health and security implications of deploying 5G in Nigeria;"

"As part of the study trial process, I directed the Nigerian Communications Commission (NCC) to ensure that a team of experts, security agencies and other stakeholders fully participated in the trial process."

"The trial process has been concluded and the study and reporting process is currently ongoing, " the statement read in parts.

CONCLUSION: CLAIMS that CORONAVIRUS is caused by 5G NETWORK and that the technology has been fully deployed in Nigeria are FALSE.

CREDITS/SOURCE - https://politicsnigeria.com/fact-check-is-coronavirus-caused-by-5g-technology/

Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by Ghostmode2two(m): 11:58pm On Apr 04, 2020
5G network cannot be the cause of COVID19. People are beginning to think very awkward. I thought COVID19 is a zoonotic virus? is 5G network an animal?

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Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by rusher14: 11:58pm On Apr 04, 2020
Kachi11061998:
"Don't think what is happening right now has to do with a virus. It's not a virus. The world has chosen to be deceived. As they have been deceived many times before.

"This is not the pandemic. Question where did the other ones go? No one is asking. I have asked the question, 'Where do viruses come from?' They are not found in nature, it means they're created.

I'm trying to let you know the reason you're in your house. I call it a global seige.

What they don't tell you is that your body can be connected. Did you know that once that happens you can also be controlled as your devices are controlled.

Meaning that signals can be sent to your brain, your brain can be controlled. Once that happens you are no longer yourself. The idea is controlling the new race.

So since they can't vaccinate everyone, they started vaccinating children and raising them that way.

You wanna know what's going on in the world? There's a movie called "Divergent" from 2014.

That's what the groups that are interested in the new world order are up to, to put vaccine in your body containing a digital ID, by which you as a human being can be controlled, you seize to be yourself.

To achieve the vaccination, they using 2 things:

1. They created a pandemic (Covic19) in order to create fear and panic.

2. They use internet of things (IOT), and created 5G (people can easily embrace it), which causes health issues, but you wouldn't know cause they made you love the high internet speed.

Both strategies lead to achieving their initial plan, vaccination with digital ID.

If these groups were not hiding anything,......

1. They forced everyone to stay indoors (aka quarantine/lockdown), but they have people busy installing 5G connections outside.

2. Why do they get angry when others express opposite views. They taking down their websites and posts. E.g 1. Youtube deleted many videos expossing this conspiracy, 1 by former Vodafone boss. E.g 2. Facebook deleted post by Brazil president exposing their plans.

If you still don't yet know what is going on, know today; it's not about the Corona virus. This is basically a group of people serving a devilish cause trying to checkmate humanity to hell.

Don't be ignorant, neither silent. This isn't a time to seat on the fence because there is no fence. This isn't about religion because as you can see, there isn't one either. It boils down to two options: Life or Death.

We are still in the age of the Church and the antichrist cannot advance his plans yet. The Bible is clear that after the Rapture of the Church, the son of perdition will be revealed.

Brothers and sisters, this isn't a time to play with Christianity. Give your life to Christ now while you still can because these things will happen, but after the Church is raptured".

(Pastor Chris Oyakhilome DSc.DD, Christ Embassy)

Pastor Chris wrote this nonsense?

Is he aware rabies is a viral disease which can be transmitted to man via a vector like a dog or cen the favourite host of viruses - bats?

Rabies for instance have been in existence well before the birth of Christ.

So on what basis does he suggest viruses are man made?


Was man making viruses in the year 1930 BC?

Why do these charlatans choose to spread their ignorance to a multitude?

Isn't he satisfied with the number of ignoramuses he has created over the years?

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Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by erico2k2(m): 11:59pm On Apr 04, 2020
if U believe this then U are as DUMB as fuk
Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by OgogoroFreak(m): 12:02am On Apr 05, 2020
No
Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by Tunde835(m): 12:02am On Apr 05, 2020
5G Is the fifth generation of wireless communication technology supportin cellular data networks dis technology Includes higher network speeds nd frequencies ranging from 24GHz to as high as 72GHz which Exceeds the extremely high frequency lower boundary dis technology will improve integration between devices like cars household equipment AI artificial intelligence there isnt a a proven link between 5G nd coronavirus scares
Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by malbro(m): 12:03am On Apr 05, 2020
6G wey resemble something neva come we cry....Abeg tell FG we are ok with 4G oooh....

They fiy even reduce the 4G to 3.5G incase this China come that side.

U never can tell....
Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by GuestLog: 12:06am On Apr 05, 2020
litaninja:
You haven't learnt anything.
You need to return your certificate.

Come and collect!

You hold a device to chat on a technology that couldn't be imagined possible 100 years ago and you think I'm the stupid one?

It maybe too late for you to learn but the opportunity is always there if you need to step up.

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Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by topmost1102(m): 12:07am On Apr 05, 2020
SeunWedsLinda:
I've been visiting xvideos and pornhub and each time I try to stream a video this lock down period, it'd buffer because of the large number of people connected to a particular network. If 5G makes me stream those videos in HD without buffering, FG should just create the 5G for only me. I'd accept grin
my guy just for you? All is well o

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Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by Bimpe29: 12:07am On Apr 05, 2020
Human quest for ever increasing flexibility and innovation will surely lead to global destruction.

The global Cabals are not innocent of having an ulterior motive with the introduction of 5G network.
Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by luluman: 12:08am On Apr 05, 2020
mu2sa2:
Conspiracy or no conspiracy, 5G should go and die since majority of people, right or mistaken, do not trust the technology.
Only Ipob youth trust it. grin

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Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by luluman: 12:09am On Apr 05, 2020
SeunWedsLinda:
I've been visiting xvideos and pornhub and each time I try to stream a video this lock down period, it'd buffer because of the large number of people connected to a particular network. If 5G makes me stream those videos in HD without buffering, FG should just create the 5G for only me. I'd accept grin
Minorities are not the priority but majority. Create 10G for yourself if you need one
Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by Quaddafi29: 12:13am On Apr 05, 2020
While some of these speculations and allegations may have a tiny semblance of truth, the main campaign is this ; 3G network system is a very desirable development and the health alarm is completely balderdash. There is a campaign by the American who have not fully mastered the technology but desire to be front runners, to tarnish the giant leap of the Chinese in beating them in the race. Corona virus is not a new disease or virus, it is a family of diseases containing both low yield and highly dangerous branches among which is the covid-19,while 3G network is a new development. The Americans have been prompting their vassal allies like Britain, France, Germany and Canada not to hook up with the Chinese - mastered technology using Huawei their indigenous mobile company. In order to scare the world into dropping any interest in the Chinese scheme, they are now linking it with the current pandemic. The origin of the COVID-19 is story for another day.

The US states control the western media which it manipulates to disinform the people anytime their interest is threatened. Most people rely on such media outlets like CNN,BBC, etc for their whole news and sheepishly agree to anything disseminated from them. Who wouldn't swear that Saddam Hussein had, and was about to unleash a nuclear holocaust on the world until he was captured, tried in a kangaroo court and killed. Same media inspired disinformation was used to kill Muamar Gaddafi and bamboozle us about the 9/11 brouhaha.

Today, while the US is nearly begging for Chinese face masks and stealing consignments meant for their slave allies, they are subtly spreading rumors that the same products destined freely to Africa and other less developed but highly corona virus endangered regions , are deliberately infected with the same virus. Africans especially are helpless against this disease and should they stupidly believe this disinformation and reject these aid from Mr.Jack Ma, a Chinese billionaire and founder of Alibaba, then the continent will head for extinction and somebody somewhere, will gain.

Please, be careful when they try to link this virus with 3G. It is a fallacy.

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Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by Twylade(f): 12:29am On Apr 05, 2020
Does #5GCoronavirus make you sick? Is it really the cause of the CoronaVirus outbreak? Is there a #coronavirus5g link?
Is the #ChineseGovernment involved in this #ConspiracyTheory?
Read about the facts and myths surrounding #5G and #COVID19

https://kellyjaydigital..com/2020/04/3-facts-and-myths-about-5g-and.html

Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by abdullkabar(m): 12:32am On Apr 05, 2020
Elohe001:

where do viruses come from?
You are asking me a question that's a headache to scientists
Tho there are three probable hypothesis
But we all know they are not created from thin Air(if that's where you are going)

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Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by Maestro21: 12:34am On Apr 05, 2020
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I hate to do this but will explain myself to dumbfucks like Chris oyakhilome, Dino melaye, fani kayode and their brainless followers.
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That Fraud Chris oyakhilome said Literal nothing in his video about 5G that explains the connection to coronavirus. The only thing he basically said is "5G is ten times stronger than 4G, TEN TIMES!!! but I don't want to bore you with all that" and this is the dumbfuck that a lot of people call G.O. Wtf!


If you listened to Rev Chris Oyakhilome, and concluded that he was saying 5G causes COVID-19, grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Then you are dumber than all the people you called brainless put together.
Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by Gabbriell: 12:35am On Apr 05, 2020
anigbajumo:



Lol,u must be a bad student of physics...let me educate u.Hope u knw we av two types of radiation which is ionizing and non ionizing radion.The radio waves that makes up 5G is non ionizing radiation thou it have high penetrating power but emits less gamma Ray's which makes it less dangerous to human instantly.Thou it is very dangerous in human in coming years, consistent penetrations of beta particles can damage blood cells and cause cancer nd Never the reason for coronavirus.There is no where virus which is living cells in host can cause by radiation which damage cells,how does these two correlate....

There is no where or no documentary from any physicist that explain radiation can cause virus,there is nothing like that as far as physics is concerned,it can only damage cell and cause many disease but not infection of viruses.

Learn to read properly first before we talk else I will just be wasting my time with you.
Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by bizhop01: 12:36am On Apr 05, 2020
If ½G technology caused influenza in 1918 & 1957 that kill over 50 millions people,

5G suppose to wipe out the whole world.

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Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by Maestro21: 12:36am On Apr 05, 2020
rusher14:


Pastor Chris wrote this nonsense?

Is he aware rabies is a viral disease which can be transmitted to man via a vector like a dog or cen the favourite host of viruses - bats?

Rabies for instance have been in existence well before the birth of Christ.

So on what basis does he suggest viruses are man made?


Was man making viruses in the year 1930 BC?

Why do these charlatans choose to spread their ignorance to a multitude?

Isn't he satisfied with the number of ignoramuses he has created over the years?

Where do viruses come from?

Please be straight to the point.
Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by Kimberly12: 12:37am On Apr 05, 2020
Crazy world
Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by Horus(m): 12:47am On Apr 05, 2020
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Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by Donbabaj: 12:48am On Apr 05, 2020
Not too sure, what I heard was that China mounted a technology for 5G in Wuhan for trial testing, which strong waves consequently killed some of its citizens and animals around the territory. So, in an attempt to cover up the deaths caused by the 5G waves, they had to release the Covid 19 virus into city of Wuhan and some few parts other of China.

This cover up was done so that the world does not reject the 5G projects on the basis of its negetive effects on living things. Eventually, novel COVID 19 has touched and spread widely across the world, believe it or not, the virus is man-made, by man made I mean scientific research such as bringing animal testing and the likes. The corona virus thing has been part of the 5G plan all along. So it is not as if the 5G is the cause of the virus. No!

Not so sure, but I can tell you that this Corona virus is a trial version. The worst virus is yet to be released.

From the spiritual angle, the world is coming to an end and will become one as these are signs of the end time.

Accept Jesus christ into your life now, tomorrow might be too late!!!

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Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by iukpe: 12:51am On Apr 05, 2020
We have always accepted foreign technology. If we need 5G to travel, do business, trade and connect with the world around us, then we will certainly follow the trend. Except we develop our own technology ( A way of doing things).
Re: FACT-CHECK: Is Coronavirus Caused By 5G Technology? by HARDDON: 12:53am On Apr 05, 2020
2G, 3G, 4G all came along with no public outcry.

5G is in another grand level and its possibilities are both mind blowing and worrisome

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