itsme01:




Aboki people and their nonsense talks.. Fowler's records are there for all to see


if it is standard of education US trained Fowler beats Ahmadu Bello University quota system Nami to stupor

if its Tax collected what he earned are documented for all to see, he got all the TAX by widening Tax bracket, going after defaulters and having more people pay Tax rather than increasing VAT and frustrating ordinary Nigerians like Nami did

This Aboki guy would destroy FIRS's working policy like the dumb Buhari's Girlfriend and Minister of Humanitarian had destroyed everything Professor Osinbajo worked for with Social Intervention Program

Dunce doesn't even understand the concept of Tax Holidays Fowler gave for some critical sectors, many of the best Nigerian roads under constrction are due to the tax holiday given to company like Dangote and others


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Baba please hold your peace if your are not aware, I've read some very credible reports from insiders which shows Fowler was running FIRS like a personal fiefdom, bringing in unusual policies that alienated existing staff, he brought in personal associates who had little experience to superintend over directors.

It's not the first time I'm hearing of the job he did as FIRS boss. I know he brought some ideas but it seems his methods were flawed in many ways.

I fault that tax consultant usage though.

Staro:


Fowler deserves praises for what effort exactly ?
For superintending over a declining revenue generation since 2015 ?
What is bad in telling him to his face that he failed ?
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It is good to see the breakdown of taxes collected during Jonathan and Fowler's. During Jonathan a larger proportion was the oil related component which is tied to oil price. The higher the oil price the higher the royalty and ppt paid as taxes by oil companies. As oil price fell in 2015 and only started picking up in 2018 this seriously lowered the oil component part. Fowler shored up the revenue greatly in the non oil component which was a major feat by broadening the tax net and going after defaulters. Several companies never paid tax before not filed returns. Thousands started filing and paying. My company also filed in 2018 for our operations since 2013. So he deserved some credit

Oga Nami, were you appointed to work or complain? If the job is overwhelming, better resign and allow a competent person take over. We're tired of this blame song. That's how the present government complained about Jonathan for good 4 years until the gimmick no longer sells. Only mediocres complain and trade blame instead of getting to work. You probably think that'll save your arse but Nigerians are wiser.

etokhana:


https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/387431-firs-under-fowler-virtually-collapsed-i-had-to-rebuild-from-scratch-nami.html

Idiotic statement....

ZombiePUNISHER:
Dont take the man seriously....

Under Buhari... These northerners all claim to be effective in their various duties

Truth is staring at us all... Nothing is working
The country is in ruins .

They are busy employing their tribesmen in all sectors of the economy ...

Never had a region hold on to police... Army... Dss.. Inec... Immigration... Customs.. NSA.. Etc... It has never happened before

Buhari will go someday..
Southerners... Hope you are learning

lessening what. You cannot violate federal character when southerner gets there

NaijaRoyalty:
All of you are the same

When your tenure expires, the next person will say the same thing about you so nothing new here .

He does not have anything to offer. He only came to enjoy the labour of Babatunde Fowler. That is their style of work. You will never find them when things are hard or tough. Check NCC, NITDA, Finance Ministry and strategic institutions under Finance Ministry apart from Custom where they make easy money. Virtually, in all major institutions in Nigeria, at inception where knowledge, intelligence and hard work are required, you will never find them, but immediately there is stability and money start coming in, you will find them.

The only institutions you can find them at inception are those that have looting, easy money and political advantage. EFCC is an example.

He came to FIRS at a time Fowler has pushed forward 7.5% VAT, VAT on POS / online transactions, 10% tax GSM calls, SMS, cable TV subscription and several other reforms to increase IGR.They saw cash coming through technology, they remembered quota system. No country has ever witnessed increase in IGR under economic depression. It takes few years to recover stability and increase IGR after depression. He came onboard to enjoy VAT increment and the tax reform of Fowler but God brought COVID -
19 and fall in crude oil price. Let us see what he is going to do. He is a very unserious person. He is a product of Quota System. When Tinubu called for VAT suspension as a palliative measure for Nigerians during lockdown, he almost collapse. His brothers kicked against it to cover up for him.

mikolo80:
lessening what. You cannot violate federal character when southerner gets there

Tell that useless sermon to Buhari tribalist king

hisexcellency34:
I wonder why Fowler is not in EFCC custody with all the atrocities he committed at FIRS

Which specific atrocities!? Why not be specific and not hide behind very vague statements like that. If you check well now, your statement is based on here say from the news, a lot of which is fake.

[quote author=mikolo80 post=88380911]lessening what. You cannot violate federal character when southerner gets there[/quote

Isn't it being violated now? Besides it doesn't need to be violated in the strict sense. We only give the 'juicy' areas to southerners and see how the North likes it then.

Having said that, I actually don't support quota system, but the reality is that anywhere that makes sense is being headed by northerners currently.

sweetgala:


Baba please hold your peace if your are not aware, I've read some very credible reports from insiders which shows Fowler was running FIRS like a personal fiefdom, bringing in unusual policies that alienated existing staff, he brought in personal associates who had little experience to superintend over directors.

It's not the first time I'm hearing of the job he did as FIRS boss. I know he brought some ideas but it seems his methods were flawed in many ways.

Is it the staff of any government agency that you want to trust? Especially a money generating one? Surely you are a Nigerian and you know how we behave in positions of power. Do you think the staff of FIRS are not totally corrupt and cutting deals with companies to reduce their tax bill? So how did you expect Fowler to have confidence in them. Its same thing staff of NNPC and napims and dpr and Co do. All fucking corrupt.

Lostz:


Fowler did not improve on what he met on ground.

He is also a tribal bigot... Filling every position with people from his region

Hausa people dey go school before? If you are looking for 100of the best accountants on merit, you wong get more than 7 from the North. Same applies for every profession.

The northerners are a lot in CBN, NNPC, NAPIMS, DPR, NDIC, Firs etc because of politics and not of merit.

isthatso:


stop talking nonsense, his record is indeed there to see, he failed to meet his targets for every year he was FIRS boss..simple. The good thing is that this new man has been so critical of Fowler, he has set a rod for his own back....he cant afford not to deliver especially if as he claims Fowler was so incompetent.

Personally, I dont take success in Lagos state as a yard stick. 1) It is easy to raise IGR in Lagos, 2) People are easily satisfied with mediocre performance....in such circumstances it is easy for your star to shine beyond your levels of true competence.

He failed to meet its target for every year as you said. Did the yearly budget ever meets its target despite being a budget of deficit financed by loans? The tax reforms and execution that made companies which have not paid tax for years to pay and various tax increments he proposed to increase non oil tax receipts are there. You said mediocrity is allowed in Lagos, that is why he performed. I know you are IBO, traders mentality can never allow you to understand economic dynamic.

COMPAQ:


Hausa people dey go school before? If you are looking for 100of the best accountants on merit, you wong get more than 7 from the North. Same applies for every profession.

The northerners are a lot in CBN, NNPC, NAPIMS, DPR, NDIC, Firs etc because of politics and not of merit.

na only Yoruba dea go school?

babaolofin:


He failed to meet its target for every year as you said. Did the yearly budget ever meets its target despite being a budget of deficit financed by loans? The tax reforms and execution that made companies which have not paid tax for years to pay and various tax increments he proposed to increase non oil tax receipts are there. You said mediocrity is allowed in Lagos, that is why he performed. I know you are IBO, traders mentality can never allow you to understand economic dynamic.

From the beginning, it was obvious you are a sychophant not engaging your brain. If you look at my post history, you will see I am yoruba and I am not PDP. The problem with you religious, tribal zealots and political ass lickers is that you stopped engaging your brains and function according to dogma not facts and reason, we must be able to tell the truth to ourselves this is what yorubas have always been known for but sadly many of you have become like the people you chastise. He was given targets and for 5 years he failed to meet any yearly target....Fact is fact! All that matters is the part in bold. If Fowler met his targets he will still be in a job no matter what enemies perceived or real he has, anything else you say is hogwash. Like I tell my employees, just do your job and you make it difficult for me to sack you but if you dont do what I employed you to do, you make it easy for me to sack you on a day i am not in a good mood because the next guy cannot be any worse..!!!

bloody lier,enemy of progress,bloody cilivian

isthatso:


From the beginning, it was obvious you are a sychophant not engaging your brain. If you look at my post history, you will see I am yoruba and I am not PDP. The problem with you religious, tribal zealots and political ass lickers is that you stopped engaging your brains and function according to dogma not facts and reason, we must be able to tell the truth to ourselves this is what yorubas have always been known for but sadly many of you have become like the people you chastise. He was given targets and for 5 years he failed to meet any yearly target....Fact is fact! All that matters is the part in bold. If Fowler met his targets he will still be in a job no matter what enemies perceived or real he has, anything else you say is hogwash. Like I tell my employees, just do your job and you make it difficult for me to sack you but if you dont do what I employed you to do, you make it easy for me to sack you on a day i am not in a good mood because the next guy cannot be any worse..!!!

Your responses showed that you are a fool. but just a street trader in Onitsha main market or Ariara.. As I often say, based on intelligence evaluation, 90% of people using Yoruba names on nairaland or social media are from other tribes. I have seen IBOs using Yoruba names on their international passports while I was in Abuja.

Your first posting revealed your death of knowledge and this exposed your foolishness. Who gave him target? Was it Buhari or the former Minister of Finance ( Kemi Adeosun) or the CBN governor? What are the Key Performance Indicators? The government that came into economic crisis at inception. Under GEJ oil fell from $130 to around $40 and little below, just for six months, Ngonzi Okonjo-Iweala borrowed money to pay salary till the end of the tenure.

At inception of Buhari government, there was economic recession which entered depression in 2016 where most States collapsed. The bail out fund from the loan payment which was returned by foreign finance organization helped matter. Many Senators complained that their friends in business have not made profits in 18 months. Dangote also felt the impact of the recession. Tax is a variable which depends on profit except those on fixed assets. When companies are operating at loss, do you expect tax to increase? In 2009 when US and other major economically strong countries experienced economic meltdown, they released billions of dollars from Reserves to cushion the effect because Tax cannot come up there, it was not even a discussion, the survival of the citizens became the priority. Who gave him target? Who knows economics there? Mention a name.

It was his reform that led to many companies who have not paid taxes for years to pay by force. You want to compare taxes when oil sells above $128 per barrel to when oil sells at $32 or $40 per barrel, then you should return to your shade to sell market.

Now he formulated VAT increment to 7.5%, VAT on POS / online transaction, 10% on GSM voice , SMS and pay TV subscription in addition to other reforms. He presented it to presidency
for submission to National Assembly. He carried out enlightenment on various media to sensitise the public on the reforms. He was abused. Personally, I was against the reform, but it got to Senate.

When they saw cheap big money coming from technology which is a Cash cow, they replaced him. The quota system man is now trying to claim credit. We shall see how it would happen.

babaolofin:


Your responses showed that you are a fool. but just a street trader in Onitsha main market or Ariara.. As I often say, based on intelligence evaluation, 90% of people using Yoruba names on nairaland or social media are from other tribes. I have seen IBOs using Yoruba names on their international passports while I was in Abuja.

Your first posting revealed your death of knowledge and this exposed your foolishness. Who gave him target? Was it Buhari or the former Minister of Finance ( Kemi Adeosun) or the CBN governor? What are the Key Performance Indicators? The government that came into economic crisis at inception. Under GEJ oil fell from $130 to around $40 and little below, just for six months, Ngonzi Okonjo-Iweala borrowed money to pay salary till the end of the tenure.

At inception of Buhari government, there was economic recession which entered depression in 2016 where most States collapsed. The bail out fund from the loan payment which was returned by foreign finance organization helped matter. Many Senators complained that their friends in business have not made profits in 18 months. Dangote also felt the impact of the recession. Tax is a variable which depends on profit except those on fixed assets. When companies are operating at loss, do you expect tax to increase? In 2009 when US and other major economically strong countries experienced economic meltdown, they released billions of dollars from Reserves to cushion the effect because Tax cannot come up there, it was not even a discussion, the survival of the citizens became the priority. Who gave him target? Who knows economics there? Mention a name.

It was his reform that led to many companies who have not paid taxes for years to pay by force. You want to compare taxes when oil sells above $128 per barrel to when oil sells at $32 or $40 per barrel, then you should return to your shade to sell market.

Now he formulated VAT increment to 7.5%, VAT on POS / online transaction, 10% on GSM voice , SMS and pay TV subscription in addition to other reforms. He presented it to presidency
for submission to National Assembly. He carried out enlightenment on various media to sensitise the public on the reforms. He was abused. Personally, I was against the reform, but it got to Senate.

When they saw cheap big money coming from technology which is a Cash cow, they replaced him. The quota system man is now trying to claim credit. We shall see how it would happen.

1. I dont have time for people who bring tribe and religion into matters that have nothing to do with religion or tribe. You have attacked Ibos and hausas while acknowledging the yoruba man failed to do the job he was given to do. The problem with brainwashing is that it is a very slippery slope, you dont realise when you begin to argue like a complete idiot who has never seen the walls of a educational institution!! I am not responding for your sake but for the sake of others...you are clearly a bigot bereft of a capacity to reason. Idiots are best left in their state of buffoonery.

2. he was given targets... for 5 years, he didnt meet them, even you yourself have acknowledged, anything else you have to say is immaterial and a story for the gods..nobody cares!!!! If you ask a driver to get to your house at 6 am to pick up your kids for school and every day he fails to get there on time and your kids are late and punished for being late or you have to take them yourself disrupting yourschedule, will you continue to employ such a driver? you dont care about his story..he has repeatedly failed to complete the task you employed him to do and only a fool will continue to employ such a driver because he has proved over time he is not fit for purpose. Everything else is a story for the gods! If he was doing the job he was employed to do, they will be afraid to sack him irrespective of tribe or religion because of the fear that the next man may not deliver.

idiots like you (of which there are many unfortunately) dont seem to understand this simple concept. you dont employ someone to be your friend, you employ someone to do a job. and if he is doing a good job especially if he is doing a gret job, you will tolerate him even if you hate him, even if he curses you everyday because you know especially in Nigeria, good people are irreplaceable. Tax is about revenues, Naira/dollars have no tribe or religion, if he was collecting enough money for a govt that needs a lot of money....he will still be in a job.


EOD!!

fairfora:
I'm waiting for what I requested. Post here the revenues of FIRS in just 2 years of GEJ administration and that of Fowler in same period to justify your arguement. At least, I've reduced the period now to ease you of the stress.

Btw, where were you when the same new DG threatened Fowler that he needed FIRS job even when his tenure was yet to expired? Once again, i dare you post what I asked for and if you cant do that, your arguement is baseless.

Bros, are sure this actually happened? Heard of it once in a social gathering in Abj but doubted it.

VolvoS60:


^^^
I would like to be educated on how employing tax consultants reduced FIRS corruption. I genuinely would like to know the facts on this case.

Well, ask the system. I ain't no google.
All's me know is lesser power, lesser corruption. So, dilute the power, then let em baby fishes murder for a little food. Make them know who's boss or they gonn be their own bosses until you can boss em no more.

Lastmankc:
See that black spot for him head.This guy nah correct head slammer

Beast mark

COMPAQ:


Is it the staff of any government agency that you want to trust? Especially a money generating one? Surely you are a Nigerian and you know how we behave in positions of power. Do you think the staff of FIRS are not totally corrupt and cutting deals with companies to reduce their tax bill? So how did you expect Fowler to have confidence in them. Its same thing staff of NNPC and napims and dpr and Co do. All fucking corrupt.

Bros the staff of FIRS are corrupt like all their other colleagues in other agencies but from what I've read from insiders Fowler was operating in a way that was absolutely inappropriate.

He abolished regular mandatory meetings, didn't take reports from department heads, stopped many designated functions and employed assistants and advisers with no experience fresh from University abroad to essentially oversee the department heads.

Some things are just no appropriate and to top it all he was not returning revenue as was forecasted. He was underperforming compared to customs and other agencies and his use of private companies to collect tax was the icing on the cake.
The same ojoro they are using to clean Lagos dry they want to transport to Federal.

There is no doubt he has enemies in the cabal, and he almost did damage to the relationship between Tinubu/Osinbajo camp and the Buhari. The aso rock cabal tried to tarnish Osinbajo as party to the antics of Fowler

There have even been reports on this same NL of how Fowler is managing FIRS with many commentators confirming this to be true

Amumaigwe:


Leave Jonathan out of your woes. Weren't you enjoying it when they accused him?

Enjoy kor, never been fan of who cant focus on tommorow but always blame yesterday for is misfortune. get that man

laykman:


Well, ask the system. I ain't no google.
All's me know is lesser power, lesser corruption. So, dilute the power, then let em baby fishes murder for a little food. Make them know who's boss or they gonn be their own bosses until you can boss em no more.

^^^


I asked you because I thought you could advance the discussion and provide some answers. I thought you could end the guesswork and conjecture on the thread - especially since you wrote quite a bit about Fowler in your initial post.

I guess I was wrong.

VolvoS60:


^^^


I asked you because I thought you could advance the discussion and provide some answers. I thought you could end the guesswork and conjecture on the thread - especially since you wrote quite a bit about Fowler in your initial post.

I guess I was wrong.

Well, it's obvious what Fowler did. Every action is justifiable. I read a headline yesterday about the revenue for the Q1 of Firs being N1.5 trillion. Judging by this data, the year end revenue would not be above N6 trillion. That's if the current economical mishap doesn't affect them. Now, do the math yourself. What's the difference between both parties? Weigh their pros and cons based on the way they both ran the organization, and ask yourself who you think is better.

Those saying Fowler performed better than his predecessors seem to miss some key points of measurement. In the first place, what is the barometer for saying he performed better?

Fowler's supporters point to the singular instance when about N5.3b was generated.

The following are facts

1. Since 2007, only Fowler failed to meet & surpass the revenue generation target since he took over...;

2. Cumulatively, the revenue generated from say, 2011 to 2014 is more than that generated from 2015-2019;

3. Fowler benefited from the exchange rate adjustment. So if the exchange rate of N306 to $1 was used to calculate the revenue from 2011 to 2014, the revenue under Fowler would not measure up;

https://www.firs.gov.ng/TaxStatisticsReports

ZombiePUNISHER:


Tell that useless sermon to Buhari tribalist king

He is not a southerner.

ADsoft:


Read very well before commenting
"FIRS under him has performed better regarding specific non-oil tax types, such as VAT and CIT."
The shortage from the oil related tax wasn't the fault of FIRS but as a result of how oil business as a country was faring

Thanks for the email requests however ill rather you reach out via the facebook Id on my profile for any enquiry or detailed convo.

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