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Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 2:40am On Jun 05, 2020
If anyone in diaspora is interested in joining the group, email us with your phone number.
joyoftheearth:
At this point, it is quite clear that Agriculture is the future of Nigeria and Africa as whole with the dwindling oil revenue. Making good business in Agriculture will present its own set of challenges even more for those of us in diaspora with the issue of who to trust and knowledge acquisition.

To introduce myself, I am currently into Plantain and Pig farming. I also currently reside outside Nigeria but have farm in Ogun state. Please introduce yourself in the thread.

We have a WhatsApp group for current and intending farmers in diaspora to discuss, share ideas, ask questions and exchange knowledge. You can join our group by sending an email about yourself with phone number to diasporafarmers@gmail.com. I will add you to the group.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by Atlanticfire: 4:59am On Jun 05, 2020
joyoftheearth:
If anyone is interested in mature Hybrid Tenera palm oil seedling, we have a group member that wants to sell at a very good price of 300 naira.

Be very careful what tree seedlings that you promote. Lots of deception going on in the sales of seedlings and suckers.

How did you confirm that the seedling that you are promoting is actually hybrid?
Who certified it as hybrid?

Some folks just take seeds from hybrid plants, sprout them and claim that the resulting seedlings are hybrids and sell to unsuspecting buyers who would not know that they have been duped until years later when the plants start producing and they don't get the expected hybrid performance.

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Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by wumss: 5:54am On Jun 05, 2020
Not sure I follow what you are trying to say here? do you mean that hybrid plants will not produce hybrid seeds...please excuse my ignorance if it is a stupid question?
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by Atlanticfire: 6:43pm On Jun 05, 2020
wumss:
Not sure I follow what you are trying to say here? do you mean that hybrid plants will not produce hybrid seeds...please excuse my ignorance if it is a stupid question?

There is something called filial generations.

When two distinctly pure genotypes of a plant are mated the first sets of seeds the produce is called the 1st filial generation hybrid and is normally denoted on the seed pack as F1

When the F1 seeds are planted they give the hybrid traits inherited from the previous 2 genotypes that was mated to get the F1 seed.

When the F1 seeds grow to maturity and produce their own seeds, those seeds will have traits that are different from the traits of the F1 seeds. This is because the F1 seeds when they flower are now pollinated by random uncontrolled spores and the characteristics they will inherit from the random spores are unknown and are usually different from the characteristics of the F1 hybrid seeds and what characteristics you now get is purely by chance events.

At best they should label those seeds as second filial generation seeds (F2 seeds) if they are cross between the initial hybrid seeds. Unfortunately our seedling sellers don't even warn anyone that the plants they are selling are grown from seeds of hybrid plants and might not have the desired hybrid characteristics.

To get hybrid seedlings from a hybrid plant, you need to grow it from either stem cuttings, grafting, air layering or by tissue culture methods not by seed propagation

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Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by pawn89(m): 8:44pm On Jun 05, 2020
Atlanticfire:


Be very careful what tree seedlings that you promote. Lots of deception going on in the sales of seedlings and suckers.

How did you confirm that the seedling that you are promoting is actually hybrid?
Who certified it as hybrid?

Some folks just take seeds from hybrid plants, sprout them and claim that the resulting seedlings are hybrids and sell to unsuspecting buyers who would not know that they have been duped until years later when the plants start producing and they don't get the expected hybrid performance.

Some folks nurse f2 sprouted nuts, but this right here isn't f2.
Sprouted nuts can be purchased from NIFOR, the recommended distributor of hybrid sprouted nuts.

The seedlings been promoted is cultured from sprouted nuts purchased from NIFOR.

I know for a fact that not everyone has the will and patience to grow their own seedlings.

Your concerns are well placed, but know that we deal with authentic hybrids from NIFOR.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by Atlanticfire: 3:26am On Jun 06, 2020
pawn89:


Some folks nurse f2 sprouted nuts, but this right here isn't f2.
Sprouted nuts can be purchased from NIFOR, the recommended distributor of hybrid sprouted nuts.

The seedlings been promoted is cultured from sprouted nuts purchased from NIFOR.

I know for a fact that not everyone has the will and patience to grow their own seedlings.

Your concerns are well placed, but know that we deal with authentic hybrids from NIFOR.

Nice that the seeds come from NIFOR. That is what Nigerians should be doing, get real hybrid seeds from the recommended distributors and sprout them and sell to the public and have evidence of the source of the seeds to give to your buyers.

The only problem I have with your post is that you use the word "some folks" it is not some folks, it is very many folks. They advertise on Nairaland, through whatsapp and facebook claiming to be selling hybrid seeds and duping people.

I lost a lot of money trying to get hybrid pawpaw seeds and only realised lately that they are simply getting f2 seeds from germinated F1 plants and selling such F2 seeds as F1 seeds. I spoke to one of the folks doing this and the fool did not even know the difference between F1 and F2 seeds.

Some other folks I have spoken to know the difference between F1 and F2 but are simply preying on the ignorance of people to sell them f2 seeds and seedlings in place of F1 seeds.

If I were resident in Nigeria at the time of the purchase, I would have driven down to see and investigate the seeds I am buying before parting with my money.

I am also at loss as to what to do with 1000 stands of so called hybrid bananas I planted after buying it from a renowned seed seller on Nairaland. He sent me pictures of massive bunch sizes as evidence of what the yield will look like from the banana at maturity, 3 years down the line, I did not get any useful yield from the banana.

If you are abroad don't go into farming as the sole or major financer of the project in Nigeria, the people are either too incompetent or too fraudulent to be trusted with your hard earned money and left without close supervision.

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Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by pawn89(m): 3:45pm On Jun 06, 2020
Atlanticfire:


Nice that the seeds come from NIFOR. That is what Nigerians should be doing, get real hybrid seeds from the recommended distributors and sprout them and sell to the public and have evidence of the source of the seeds to give to your buyers.

The only problem I have with your post is that you use the word "some folks" it is not some folks, it is very many folks. They advertise on Nairaland, through whatsapp and facebook claiming to be selling hybrid seeds and duping people.

I lost a lot of money trying to get hybrid pawpaw seeds and only realised lately that they are simply getting f2 seeds from germinated F1 plants and selling such F2 seeds as F1 seeds. I spoke to one of the folks doing this and the fool did not even know the difference between F1 and F2 seeds.

Some other folks I have spoken to know the difference between F1 and F2 but are simply preying on the ignorance of people to sell them f2 seeds and seedlings in place of F1 seeds.

If I were resident in Nigeria at the time of the purchase, I would have driven down to see and investigate the seeds I am buying before parting with my money.

I am also at loss as to what to do with 1000 stands of so called hybrid bananas I planted after buying it from a renowned seed seller on Nairaland. He sent me pictures of massive bunch sizes as evidence of what the yield will look like from the banana at maturity, 3 years down the line, I did not get any useful yield from the banana.

If you are abroad don't go into farming as the sole or major financer of the project in Nigeria, the people are either too incompetent or too fraudulent to be trusted with your hard earned money and left without close supervision.

Be that as it may, they are genuine farmers in Nigeria, one that will give you the genuine and quality seeds you'd need. I started my farm in Nigeria from the USA, and I have been most fortunate to have been in business with genuine contacts mostly because of the heavy research and close control that I had to do.

I make sure I contact the right persons within NIFOR, as you may imagine, they are NIFOR staffs who can even sell unsuspecting buyers inferior seeds that had issue during cross pollination and is marked as waste.

Regarding your situation with PawPaw, I believe in the Cocoa Research Institute of Nigeria (CRIN) should have what you needed and you could write them and make payment directly. Some systems maybe broken in Nigeria, but in all fairness I see good progress in the Agricultural sector.

I was really please when I got a reply to my inquires I made from NIFOR, CRIN and also EDO GIS. It pays to do extensive research, its not always easy but with constant pushing and a little bit of patience, one is most likely to get good info

Having said that, while some farmers have less than sincere intentions and go about selling adulterated seedlings to the unsuspecting population; know that what I have is genuine and from NIFOR.

sorry about your bad experience, it happens to the best of us, one just need to be more careful in their dealings

Am not sure about banana, but I understand that the size of the finger is also very dependent on the availability of water more also the nutrients of the soil.
How was the farm maintenance ( weeding, fertilizer supplements, ... etc) also, when you prune the fingers during fruting, it redirects the nutrients into the size of the fingers giving a significantly bigger fingers in the bunch
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 5:49am On Jun 07, 2020
I have full confidence in the seller as F1 but like you will see in my previous post, everyone should do their due diligence before parting with your hard earned money. Just like the guy that was trying to buy land, I recommended but said do your own background work. Always buy from the trusted source like NIFOR or test and trusted farmers.
Atlanticfire:


Be very careful what tree seedlings that you promote. Lots of deception going on in the sales of seedlings and suckers.

How did you confirm that the seedling that you are promoting is actually hybrid?
Who certified it as hybrid?

Some folks just take seeds from hybrid plants, sprout them and claim that the resulting seedlings are hybrids and sell to unsuspecting buyers who would not know that they have been duped until years later when the plants start producing and they don't get the expected hybrid performance.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 5:55am On Jun 07, 2020
Sorry to hear this. It's even more painful with perennial crops when you have wasted money and precious time.
Atlanticfire:


Nice that the seeds come from NIFOR. That is what Nigerians should be doing, get real hybrid seeds from the recommended distributors and sprout them and sell to the public and have evidence of the source of the seeds to give to your buyers.

The only problem I have with your post is that you use the word "some folks" it is not some folks, it is very many folks. They advertise on Nairaland, through whatsapp and facebook claiming to be selling hybrid seeds and duping people.

I lost a lot of money trying to get hybrid pawpaw seeds and only realised lately that they are simply getting f2 seeds from germinated F1 plants and selling such F2 seeds as F1 seeds. I spoke to one of the folks doing this and the fool did not even know the difference between F1 and F2 seeds.

Some other folks I have spoken to know the difference between F1 and F2 but are simply preying on the ignorance of people to sell them f2 seeds and seedlings in place of F1 seeds.

If I were resident in Nigeria at the time of the purchase, I would have driven down to see and investigate the seeds I am buying before parting with my money.

I am also at loss as to what to do with 1000 stands of so called hybrid bananas I planted after buying it from a renowned seed seller on Nairaland. He sent me pictures of massive bunch sizes as evidence of what the yield will look like from the banana at maturity, 3 years down the line, I did not get any useful yield from the banana.

If you are abroad don't go into farming as the sole or major financer of the project in Nigeria, the people are either too incompetent or too fraudulent to be trusted with your hard earned money and left without close supervision.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by waleyp(m): 9:36am On Jun 07, 2020
hey catfish farmers in the house,
now you can get your active hybrid fingerlings and juveniles
here in Ibadan oyo state, 500,1000 pieces fingerlings,juveniles and above
we deliver nationwide,
we sell table sizes too.but we will let you know when they are ready for harvest.
contact our farm today , contact numbers will be available soon
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by Atlanticfire: 8:21pm On Jun 09, 2020
joyoftheearth:
Sorry to hear this. It's even more painful with perennial crops when you have wasted money and precious time.

Yes, it wastes your time and destroys your plans and confidence. But as long as you don't give up one might still make it successful.

I laughed when you recommended legsupnigeria for land, that was the 1st guy to scam me through agric on Nairaland. Maybe he is more matured and repentant now, but don't get involved with or recommend people who can get you into trouble.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 1:25am On Jun 10, 2020
I am sorry to hear that you were scammed by legsupnigeria. Maybe you can make another thread to share your experience. In my dealing with him, he was pretty open and seems to have good recommendation around here. Of course, everyone still need to do their own leg work.
Atlanticfire:


Yes, it wastes your time and destroys your plans and confidence. But as long as you don't give up one might still make it successful.

I laughed when you recommended legsupnigeria for land, that was the 1st guy to scam me through agric on Nairaland. Maybe he is more matured and repentant now, but don't get involved with or recommend people who can get you into trouble.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by waleyp(m): 8:55am On Jun 13, 2020
hey catfish farmers in the house,
now you can get your active hybrid fingerlings and juveniles
here in Ibadan oyo state, 500,1000 pieces fingerlings,juveniles and above
we deliver nationwide,
we sell table sizes too.but we will let you know when they are ready for harvest.
contact our farm today , contact numbers will be available soon.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 1:27am On Jun 22, 2020
Feel free to reach out if you are interested in becoming a member of the group.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 4:48pm On Aug 08, 2020
You can always reach out anytime. Just send us an email with your phone number.
joyoftheearth:
Feel free to reach out if you are interested in becoming a member of the group.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by Bolaadeola: 8:33pm On Aug 10, 2020
joyoftheearth:
If anyone in diaspora is interested in joining the group, email us with your phone number.
I sent a message to your email.box, kindly check .
My name is Bola Adeola.
Thanks
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 5:22am On Aug 11, 2020
I have added you to the group. Welcome!
Bolaadeola:

I sent a message to your email.box, kindly check .
My name is Bola Adeola.
Thanks
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 5:20pm On Aug 11, 2020
We are planning to have monthly group call to have live discussion. I will update the thread with more details.
joyoftheearth:
At this point, it is quite clear that Agriculture is the future of Nigeria and Africa as whole with the dwindling oil revenue. Making good business in Agriculture will present its own set of challenges even more for those of us in diaspora with the issue of who to trust and knowledge acquisition.

To introduce myself, I am currently into Plantain and Pig farming. I also currently reside outside Nigeria but have farm in Ogun state. Please introduce yourself in the thread.

We have a WhatsApp group for current and intending farmers in diaspora to discuss, share ideas, ask questions and exchange knowledge. You can join our group by sending an email about yourself with phone number to diasporafarmers@gmail.com. I will add you to the group.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by Terosmall(m): 8:24pm On Aug 13, 2020
I'll like someone to recommend where I can get a certified pure Large White, Landrace and Duroc pig breed in Nigeria, and what's the average cost of a matured gilt of about 100kg weight.

Also do we have anyone who import quality pig semen into Nigeria for breeding? I'll really appreciate a recommendation. For WhatsApp or call 08062609708
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by Owpen02: 9:26am On Aug 14, 2020
Am an animal health practitioner. I consult for people for any livestock at affordable price
call or what app on : 08168676324
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Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 2:35pm On Aug 27, 2020
We will be having our first meeting this Saturday.
joyoftheearth:
We are planning to have monthly group call to have live discussion. I will update the thread with more details.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 7:08am On Sep 01, 2020
We successfully had our meeting last saturday discussing mainly Snailery, Plantain and other agric factors.
joyoftheearth:
We will be having our first meeting this Saturday.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 5:48am On Oct 09, 2020
We will be having our Zoom meeting this Saturday at 10am NY Time. Email us to join the group and conversation.
joyoftheearth:
At this point, it is quite clear that Agriculture is the future of Nigeria and Africa as whole with the dwindling oil revenue. Making good business in Agriculture will present its own set of challenges even more for those of us in diaspora with the issue of who to trust and knowledge acquisition.

To introduce myself, I am currently into Plantain and Pig farming. I also currently reside outside Nigeria but have farm in Ogun state. Please introduce yourself in the thread.

We have a WhatsApp group for current and intending farmers in diaspora to discuss, share ideas, ask questions and exchange knowledge. You can join our group by sending an email about yourself with phone number to diasporafarmers@gmail.com. I will add you to the group.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 1:48am On Oct 10, 2020
Please note we use your diaspora number to verify identity at this time. Send us the number and you will surely be added to the group. Thanks!
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 9:18am On Oct 24, 2020
If you are an intending or currently practicing farmer in diaspora, checkout our WhatsApp group.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 12:52am On Oct 27, 2020
If you have any question regarding farming in Nigeria as someone in Diaspora, you will be able to get candid advice from people with similar experience.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 5:11am On Nov 06, 2020
Reach out via the email to join the group.
joyoftheearth:
If you have any question regarding farming in Nigeria as someone in Diaspora, you will be able to get candid advice from people with similar experience.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 5:19am On Nov 24, 2020
Check the thread for our WhatsApp group details. Practicing and Intending farmers in diaspora are always welcome.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 2:53pm On Dec 01, 2020
Hello everyone. You can reachout via the email in the thread to join others in diaspora doing Agric.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 6:51am On Dec 07, 2020
We will be having our last meeting of the year this weekend. Reach out to join us.
Re: Farmers In Diaspora - Let's Meet Here by joyoftheearth: 6:02pm On Dec 10, 2020
Our December meeting will be this Saturday. Reach out to join others in diaspora doing Agric in Nigeria.
joyoftheearth:
We will be having our last meeting of the year this weekend. Reach out to join us.

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