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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by Redcrafton: 12:40pm On Apr 18, 2020
DanArrewa:
Religious and tribal crisis in the north and why is the north badly stereotyped?

As the Igbos want you to believe, Northerners kill all southerners regardless of their tribe or religion and that Hausas don't see yorubas as true Muslims.

This content is going to be Rational and am going to be very objective.

Dear southerners... You see Igbos?? Anything coming out from them should thoroughly be investigated, their hatred for Islam and Northerners is making them do anything possible to paint the north black and also turn everybody against the north.

When we say north, we mean a region not a state or country!!

The Northern Nigeria is made of 15 core Muslims states.

In these 15 northern states we only have 3 states in which crisis do happen.

These 3 states include, Kaduna, Kano, and Jos
For the past 15yrs now kano has been very peaceful... For the past 10yrs now Jos is peaceful! For the past 12yrs now Kaduna has been peaceful... This is due to education and exposure that is going on

But the enemies of the North will never stop telling you how the Hausafulanis want to Islamize Nigeria by killing Christians and raping their women...if the north is that unsafe and barbaric why are millions of your brothers still in the north??Even when the north decided to give you a quite notice to go back to your peaceful you region... Your fathers, governors, including Ohaneze were all begging... Millions of you are here in the north hustling along side our people... These same people will come online to tell you that northerners are murderers!

These same children of hate cant stop telling you about Kaduna crisis but will never tell you about Aba and onitsha Crisis Which they massacred innocent northern traders.

They're even lying that northerners do kill Yoruba Muslims and other southners... This is a pure lie!!
Telling you that Hausas don't know the difference between Yorubas and Igbos is a lie!!in the north Yorubas are know as Bayarabe...the first person that teach me how to recite the Quran is a Yoruba Muslim he's the imam of our mosque here in kano, Telling you that Hausas don't see Yorubas as Muslims a big lie!!

No Doubt we have large numbers religious fanatics and bigots in the north but most of them are now old and the new generation of Hausafulani are changing the narratives! The new generation of Hausafulani don't pompous bigotry like that of some of our fathers!

Igbos Should do the same... Stop transmitting hatred and bigotry from generation to generation... Because the hatred will surely consume you in the future! Which is already gradually happening!

We have very peaceful northern states! States like Sokoto, kastina,Jigawa, Gombe, Kebbi, yobe and Nasarawa have no record of religious killings or tribal killings... If not for Bokoharam Borno is one of the most peaceful state in Nigeria.

But when there's religious or tribal killings in jos or Kaduna, you see them stereotyping and tagging the whole northern states.

Every state in the north have their own mentality and level of exposure. Kaduna crisis is mainly religious... The kano killing is against the people of Igbo origin no Yoruba man was killed!

Stop stereotyping the whole northern states because of political and religious instigated crisis in Kaduna!!

Igbos should stop looking for opportunities to paint the north back...


Tribal and religious killings do happen in every region... Including among the Igbo's... Aguleri and umuleri killings each others

Nkpor and obosi people killing each others because of land...alot of communal clashes is happening in the south!

Killing of northern treaders at headbridge, Okpoko, nkpor, and other part of onitsha and Aba do happen including looting their goods and properties!!

But the only thing we talk about is north!! The only people that you want everyone to see as killers are northerners!!

An average northner is a fan of Zaman lafia (peace)

If there's killings in the east... You'll call the killers miscreants and lazy people...

But if that same miscreants kill people in Kaduna... You will call them Islamist!!

Killing people is evil... Even Islam clearly stated that if you kill an innocent person is as if you've killed the whole world!!


I'm not here to defend Islam...I'm here to educate some southerners that don't know what's happening in the north...

Make your own reach independently and get your facts... We have the most peaceful states in Nigeria

Watch and see how Igbos will try derailing this thread!

Liar..Nobody is derailing this thread....

Ohaneze didn't beg anybody when you asked the Igbos to leave. Instead your emirs said they would defend Igbos and their properties. The Igbos only referred to the UN and EU so you won't steal and destroy their properties as you always do, like when a cartoon was drawn in Denmark. How did that cartoon concern Igbos that you destroyed and looted their properties, "holyman"?

Here is the pictures where youths in Kano wore Igbo attire to beg Igbos to stay. The other pictures is when Buhari sent some important northern governors to go to Abia state to beg the governor. I hope this will debunk the lies you guys have been peddling.

Also remember that MEND asked the northerners to leave the south as well.

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by DanArewaa: 12:52pm On Apr 18, 2020
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DanArrewa:
this same question should go to you... Why are your ipob members killing police men and burning down their vehicles in Aba?
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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by DanArewaa: 12:52pm On Apr 18, 2020
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DanArrewa:
that's if you can read and comprehend the article!
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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by DanArewaa: 12:53pm On Apr 18, 2020
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DanArrewa:
so you're also mourning kyari?? Mourning him in a beer parlour abi...
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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by Redcrafton: 12:53pm On Apr 18, 2020
DanArewaa, you have tried to defend your northern region, but you have along way to go to convince even the northern minorities.

Below is a pic, of a meeting where the Fulani herdsmen taking over ancestral lands of indigenes from minorities in the north after months of killing. Igbos have never, ever done this anywhere in the world. Please stop linking Igbos to violence as many people know the region that kill at the slightest opportunity.

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by DanArrewa: 12:53pm On Apr 18, 2020
Redcrafton:


Liar..Nobody is derailing this thread....

Ohaneze didn't beg anybody when you asked the Igbos to leave. Instead your emirs said they would defend Igbos and their properties. The Igbos only referred to the UN and EU so you won't steal and destroy their properties as you always do, like when a cartoon was drawn in Denmark. How did that cartoon concern Igbos that you destroyed and looted their properties, "holyman"?

Here is the pictures where youths in Kano wore Igbo attire to beg Igbos to stay. The other pictures is when Buhari sent some important northern governors to go to Abia state to beg the governor. I hope this will debunk the lies you guys have been peddling.

Also remember that MEND asked the northerners to leave the south as well.
You don't even know how to lie
When we gave you quit notice in the North, why was your father begging? Why didn't Igbos keep their pride intact and leave the North?Uwazuruike one of your Hero visited El-Mustapha in Kaduna to beg him! Where is your pride?? Where is your arrogance??

Look at this picture very well and weep for your coming generations

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by DanArrewa: 12:56pm On Apr 18, 2020
Redcrafton:
DanAArewa, you have tried to defend your northern region, but you have along way to go to convince even the northern minorities.

Below is a pic, of a meeting where the Fulani herdsmen taking over ancestral lands of indigenes from minorities in the north after months of killing. Igbos have never, ever done this anywhere in the world. Please stop lining Igbos to violence as many people know the region that kill at the slightest opportunity.
the picture you posted doesn't mean anything... Northerners don't claim any land that is not theirs... Igbos are the ones dragging Yoruba land with the Yorubas... Who are the people saying that Lagos is no man's land?? Who the people boasting that they've taking over Lagos??

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by Redcrafton: 12:59pm On Apr 18, 2020
DanArrewa:
the picture you posted doesn't mean anything... Northerners don't claim any land that is not theirs... Igbos are the ones dragging Yoruba land with the Yorubas... Who are the people saying that Lagos no man's land?? Who the people boasting that they've taking over Lagos??

Igbos did this, in Lagos?

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by Redcrafton: 1:01pm On Apr 18, 2020
DanArrewa:

You don't even know how to lie
When we gave you quit notice in the North, why was your father begging? Why didn't Igbos keep their pride intact and leave the North?Uwazuruike one of your Hero visited El-Mustapha in Kaduna to beg him! Where is your pride?? Where is your arrogance??

Look at this picture very well and weep for your coming generations

Have you wept for your future governors and your coming generation youths in Kano, already?

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by DanArewaa: 1:08pm On Apr 18, 2020
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DanArrewa:
the picture you posted doesn't mean anything... Northerners don't claim any land that is not theirs... Igbos are the ones dragging Yoruba land with the Yorubas... Who are the people saying that Lagos is no man's land?? Who the people boasting that they've taking over Lagos??
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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by DanArewaa: 1:08pm On Apr 18, 2020
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DanArrewa:

You don't even know how to lie
When we gave you quit notice in the North, why was your father begging? Why didn't Igbos keep their pride intact and leave the North?Uwazuruike one of your Hero visited El-Mustapha in Kaduna to beg him! Where is your pride?? Where is your arrogance??

Look at this picture very well and weep for your coming generations
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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by DanArewaa: 1:08pm On Apr 18, 2020
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DanArrewa:
go and buy sharp cutlass and keep in your room...your one million igbo Brothers will come to collect the little food you have!
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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by gwarotango: 1:09pm On Apr 18, 2020
Deepfeel:
DanArrewa don't use the name of Igbo's to beg Yoruba's

We have nothing to do with you Muslims we are christian
Have you even the faintest idea about what it means to be a Christian?

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by Redcrafton: 1:12pm On Apr 18, 2020
Igbos have never attacked their hosts....instead they build the community they live in.

You brutal killers have killed Yorubas in their land. See the below incidence.

1. Shagamu riot
2. Idi Araba Lagos mayhem
3. Agility Ketu Lagos war
4. Ile Ife Mayhem
etc
etc
You destroy everything community you come in contact with your cows...and violence.

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by PeaceGord: 1:15pm On Apr 18, 2020
Deepfeel:
Your hate for Igbo's started a long time even before Nigeria got independent, your hate for Igbo's didn't stop them from doing business and settling in the north 100k Igbo's were killed in the north before the Biafran war, what haven't you northerners done to us, yet we forgave you plus the Yoruba's


You made yourselves this way not the igbos

I can only ask God to bless you.

You're a brother indeed!


See finishing!

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by Dedetwo(m): 1:15pm On Apr 18, 2020
Supan:


I was actually mourning that Kalayari or whatever they called it. But the OP brought his fulani agenda again today.

You cannot blame the OP for his/her Fulani agenda. The blame should go to Yari.ba and southern minorities who foolishly joined the northern region to prosecute a war of attrition against Ndigbo and Biafrans.

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by kutchs: 1:17pm On Apr 18, 2020
DanArrewa:
Religious and tribal crisis in the north and why is the north badly stereotyped?

As the Igbos want you to believe, Northerners kill all southerners regardless of their tribe or religion and that Hausas don't see yorubas as true Muslims.

This content is going to be Rational and am going to be very objective.

Dear southerners... You see Igbos?? Anything coming out from them should thoroughly be investigated, their hatred for Islam and Northerners is making them do anything possible to paint the north black and also turn everybody against the north.

When we say north, we mean a region not a state or country!!

The Northern Nigeria is made of 15 core Muslims states.

In these 15 northern states we only have 3 states in which crisis do happen.

These 3 states include, Kaduna, Kano, and Jos
For the past 15yrs now kano has been very peaceful... For the past 10yrs now Jos is peaceful! For the past 12yrs now Kaduna has been peaceful... This is due to education and exposure that is going on

But the enemies of the North will never stop telling you how the Hausafulanis want to Islamize Nigeria by killing Christians and raping their women...if the north is that unsafe and barbaric why are millions of your brothers still in the north??Even when the north decided to give you a quite notice to go back to your peaceful region... Your fathers, governors, including Ohaneze were all begging... Millions of you are here in the north hustling along side our people... These same people will come online to tell you that northerners are murderers!

These same children of hate cant stop telling you about Kaduna crisis but will never tell you about Aba and onitsha Crisis Which they massacred innocent northern traders.

They're even lying that northerners do kill Yoruba Muslims and other southners... This is a pure lie!!
Telling you that Hausas don't know the difference between Yorubas and Igbos is a lie!!in the north Yorubas are known as Bayarabe...the first person that teach me how to recite the Quran is a Yoruba Muslim he's the imam of our mosque here in kano, Telling you that Hausas don't see Yorubas as Muslims a big lie!!

No Doubt we have large numbers religious fanatics and bigots in the north but most of them are now old and the new generation of Hausafulani are changing the narratives! The new generation of Hausafulani don't pompous bigotry like that of some of our fathers!

Igbos Should do the same... Stop transmitting hatred and bigotry from generation to generation... Because the hatred will surely consume you in the future! Which is already gradually happening!

We have very peaceful northern states! States like Sokoto, kastina,Jigawa, Gombe, Kebbi, yobe and Nasarawa have no record of religious killings or tribal killings... If not for Bokoharam Borno is one of the most peaceful state in Nigeria.

But when there's religious or tribal killings in jos or Kaduna, you see them stereotyping and tagging the whole northern states.

Every state in the north have their own mentality and level of exposure. Kaduna crisis is mainly religious... The kano killing is against the people of Igbo origin no Yoruba man was killed!

Stop stereotyping the whole northern states because of political and religious instigated crisis in Kaduna!!

Igbos should stop looking for opportunities to paint the north balck...


Tribal and religious killings do happen in every region... Including among the Igbo's... Aguleri and umuleri killings each others

Nkpor and obosi people killing each others because of land...alot of communal clashes is happening in the south!

Killing of northern treaders at headbridge, Okpoko, nkpor, and other part of onitsha and Aba do happen including looting their goods and properties!!

But the only thing we talk about is north!! The only people that you want everyone to see as killers are northerners!!

An average northner is a fan of Zaman lafia (peace)

If there's killings in the east... You'll call the killers miscreants and lazy people...

But if that same miscreants kill people in Kaduna... You will call them Islamist!!

Killing people is evil... Even Islam clearly stated that if you kill an innocent person is as if you've killed the whole world!!


I'm not here to defend Islam...I'm here to educate some southerners that don't know what's happening in the north...

Make your own research independently and get your facts... We have the most peaceful states in Nigeria

Watch and see how Igbos will try derailing this thread!
When did Plateau State (Jos) become a core Islamic state? Is that how you Muslims want to annex Jos to your caliphate?

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by Redcrafton: 1:19pm On Apr 18, 2020
DanArrewa:

You don't even know how to lie
When we gave you quit notice in the North, why was your father begging? Why didn't Igbos keep their pride intact and leave the North?Uwazuruike one of your Hero visited El-Mustapha in Kaduna to beg him! Where is your pride?? Where is your arrogance??
Look at this picture very well and weep for your coming generations

Again you would have seen this image then...

You offer only death to any community you visit. When you leave eventually, its with your mat and kettle.

So you should be grateful to the peaceful Igbos, mister.

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by Dedetwo(m): 1:20pm On Apr 18, 2020
@OP

I shall always wished the northern region the moment of self determination and declaration of Republic of Arewa. It must surely come to pass. Believe you the nation of Arewa in order to enhance the beauty of defunct northern region of Nigeria. It shall be a fine country with enormous beautiful ladies. If open border should be allowed, I may be tempted to visit once in a decade.

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by Redcrafton: 1:29pm On Apr 18, 2020
DanArewaa, while you are at it, you should do more in reducing your population. Using it for election purposes always backfires creating army of almajiris.

GOOD LUCK!

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by DanArewaa: 1:32pm On Apr 18, 2020
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Redcrafton:
DanArewaa, while you are at it, you should do more in reducing your population. Using it for election purposes always backfires creating army of almajiris.
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oga stop disturbing my mention

can't you spot the difference?

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by Redcrafton: 1:35pm On Apr 18, 2020
DanArewaa:
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oga stop disturbing my mention

can't you spot the difference?

Yes, I can spot the difference. You are too violent.

Please stop opening meaningless threads. Thks.
Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by DanArrewa: 1:38pm On Apr 18, 2020
Redcrafton:
Igbos have never attacked their hosts....instead they build the community they live in.

You brutal killers have killed Yorubas in their land. See the below incidence.

1. Shagamu riot
2. Idi Araba Lagos mayhem
3. Agility Ketu Lagos war
4. Ile Ife Mayhem
etc
etc
You destroy everything community you come in contact with your cows...and violence.

Aguleri VS umuleri igbo killing Igbos hundreds of lives were lost!

Nkpor VS obosi Igbos killing Igbos hundreds of lives were lost in that crisis

Ebonyi vs Benue... Igbos invading Benue to steal their land...

Amaeke vs Amaugu crisis in enugu state!!Igbos killing Igbos because of land dispute!

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by Dewze(m): 1:50pm On Apr 18, 2020
DanArrewa:
Religious and tribal crisis in the north and why is the north badly stereotyped?


as the Igbos want you to believe, Northerners kill all southerners regardless of their tribe or religion and that Hausas don't see yorubas as true Muslims.

You said it.

This content is going to be Rational and am going to be very objective.
I did not see anything objective in all you wrote.

Dear southerners... You see Igbos?? Anything coming out from them should thoroughly be investigated, their hatred for Islam and Northerners is making them do anything possible to paint the north black and also turn everybody against the north.
You call these statements being objective?


When we say north, we mean a region not a state or country!!
Noted


The Northern Nigeria is made of 15 core Muslims states.

I do not believe "core Muslim" states in the north is up to 15. I hope you are not including Kaduna, Taraba, Nasarawa, Plateau and Adamawa as core Muslim states?


In these 15 northern states we only have 3 states in which crisis do happen.
Three too many.


These 3 states include, Kaduna, Kano, and Jos
For the past 15yrs now kano has been very peaceful... For the past 10yrs now Jos is peaceful! For the past 12yrs now Kaduna has been peaceful... This is due to education and exposure that is going on
Quite commendable and we are happy and pray that it should continue this way. Also good that the North has started to educate its youths as opposed to indoctrinating them.


But the enemies of the North will never stop telling you how the Hausafulanis want to Islamize Nigeria by killing Christians and raping their women...if the north is that unsafe and barbaric why are millions of your brothers still in the north??Even when the north decided to give you a quite notice to go back to your peaceful you region... Your fathers, governors, including Ohaneze were all begging... Millions of you are here in the north hustling along side our people... These same people will come online to tell you that northerners are murderers!
 
There is of a truth that a lot of misinformation and negative sentiments are going around out there concerning the North, but you must understand that these sentiments are born from the experience of the past. The African-Americans are still suspicious of the white people in the US even till today because of their experience with them in the past. People hardly forget the past, especially when you continue to arrogantly exhibit attitudes and behaviours that constantly remind them of it.


This same children of hate cant stop telling you about Kaduna crisis but will never tell you about Aba and onitsha Crisis Which they massacred innocent northern traders. 
I do not know much about the Aba and Onitsha crisis to be able to speak of its origin or cause but I do believe that most, if not all of the killings done against Northerners in the East have been done out of retaliation. Please correct me if I am wrong.

The North ignited a fire that burned to the East.


They're even lying that northerners do kill Yoruba Muslims and other southners... This is a pure lie!!
Only the Yoruba Muslims and other Southerners who were directly or indirectly affected by those crises can say for sure.


Telling you that Hausas don't know the difference between Yorubas and Igbos is a lie!!in the north Yorubas are know as Bayarabe...the first person that teach me how to recite the Quran is a Yoruba Muslim he's the imam of our mosque here in kano, Telling you that Hausas don't see Yorubas as Muslims a big lie!!
I do know that in the South West, Yoruba people, mostly the uneducated ones often generally referr to Southerners that can't speak Yoruba as "omo ibo". So I suspect that you will find something similar in the North. Even then, I have never been to the north except Abuja and so I can't dispute you on this.


No Doubt we have large numbers religious fanatics and bigots in the north but most of them are now old and the new generation of Hausafulani are changing the narratives! The new generation of Hausafulani don't pompous bigotry like that of some of our fathers! 
I agree half way with you on this. I would have fully agreed if not for pockets of recent cases like the woman that was killed not long ago because she prevented someone from cleaning up for prayer front of her shop.

Even at that, I do believe things are slowly changing for the better, especially as more northerners gain education and exposure.

Though I wonder where you will put Bello El-Rufai in that New Generation of Hausa/Fulanis, cause he does not look like he fits in that narrative.


Igbos Should do the same... Stop transmitting hatred and bigotry from generation to generation... Because the hatred will surely consume you in the future! Which is already gradually happening!
Does it not beat you that you speak against generalizations against the North, yet in the same vein you generalize against the Igbos? How rational and objective is that?


We have very peaceful northern states! States like Sokoto, kastina,Jigawa, Gombe, Kebbi, yobe and Nasarawa have no record of religious killings or tribal killings... If not for Bokoharam Borno is one of the most peaceful state in Nigeria.

Good to know this.


But when there's religious or tribal killings in jos or Kaduna, you see them stereotyping and tagging the whole northern states.
Your leaders and elders have always pushed the narrative that the North is one and inseparable. So why are you trying to separate it?


Every state in the north have their own mentality and level of exposure. Kaduna crisis is mainly religious... The kano killing is against the people of Igbo origin no Yoruba man was killed!
Ok


Stop stereotyping the whole northern states because of political and religious instigated crisis in Kaduna!!
Stop stereotyping the whole of Igbo people.


Igbos should stop looking for opportunities to paint the north back...
Igbos have always seen themselves as the victims in all these crises and you in turn have always seen yourselves as the victors. Even to this day your leaders have continued to treat the igbos as a conquered and inconsequential people, yet you wonder why the sentiments.


Tribal and religious killings do happen in every region... Including among the Igbo's... Aguleri and umuleri killings each others

Nkpor and obosi people killing each others because of land...alot of communal clashes is happening in the south! 
For one, communal clashes are not as significant as inter religious and inter ethnic crisis, so you can't expect them to attract the same attentions and sentiments. Two, bitterness and sentiments do exist in the midst of the people affected by these communal clashes, especially in cases where the aftermaths are not properly managed.


Killing of northern treaders at headbridge, Okpoko, nkpor, and other part of onitsha and Aba do happen including looting their goods and properties!!
What was the origin of the killings.


But the only thing we talk about is north!! The only people that you want everyone to see as killers are northerners!!
Your antecedents precedes you. You sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind.


An average northner is a fan of Zaman lafia (peace)
If you say so.


If there's killings in the east... You'll call the killers miscreants and lazy people...

But if that same miscreants kill people in Kaduna... You will call them Islamist!!
While I agree that quite a number of the killings in the the North are often mis-labeled, you can't deny the fact that most of them are religion driven.


Killing people is evil... Even Islam clearly stated that if you kill an innocent person is as if you've killed the whole world!!
And what is the definition of "innocent" in Islam?


I'm not here to defend Islam...I'm here to educate some southerners that don't know what's happening in the north...
The only education you gave here was the Yorubas are called Bayarabe in the North. Every other thing was just throwing aspersions.



Make your own reach independently and get your facts... We have the most peaceful states in Nigeria
I personally believe that the whole north is not as terrible as we are constantly made to believe. While I would like the Southerners, especially the Igbos to be more open minded about Hausa/Fulanis, I can't totally blame them for their attitudes. Once bitten, twice shy.

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by Deepfeel(m): 1:54pm On Apr 18, 2020
gwarotango:
Have you even the slightest idea about what it means to be a Christian?
Do you and DanArrewa have the slighted idea about what it means to be a Muslim?
Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by DanArrewa: 2:05pm On Apr 18, 2020
Dewze:



You said it.


I did not see anything objective in all you wrote.


You call these statements being objective?


Noted


I do not believe "core Muslim" states in the north is up to 15. I hope you are not including Kaduna, Taraba, Nasarawa, Plateau and Adamawa as core Muslim states?


Three to many.


Quite commendable and we are happy and pray that it should continue this way. Also good that the North has started to educate its youths as opposed to indoctrinating them.


There is of a truth that a lot of misinformation and negative sentiments are going around out there concerning the North, but you must understand that these sentiments are born from the experience of the past. The African-Americans are still suspicious of the white people in the US even till today because of their experience with them in the past. People hardly forget the past, especially when you continue to arrogantly exhibit attitudes and behaviours that constantly remind them of it.


I do not know much about the Aba and Onitsha crisis to be able to speak of its origin or cause but I do believe that most, if not all of the killings done against Northerners in the East have been done out of retaliation. Please correct me if I am wrong.

The North ignited a fire that burned to the East.


Only the Yoruba Muslims and other Southerners who were directly or indirectly affected by those crises can say for sure.


I do know that in the South West, Yoruba people, mostly the uneducated ones often generally referr to Southerners that can't speak Yoruba as "omo ibo". So I suspect that you will find something similar in the North. Even then, I have never been to the north except Abuja and so I can't dispute you on this.


I agree half way with you on this. I would have fully agreed if not for pockets of recent cases like the woman that was killed not long ago because she prevented someone from cleaning up for prayer front of her shop.

Even at that, I do believe things are slowly changing for the better, especially as more northerners gain education and exposure.

Though I wonder where you will put Bello El-Rufai in that New Generation of Hausa/Fulanis, cause he does not look like he fits in that narrative.


Does it not beat you that you speak against generalizations against the North, yet in the same vein you generalize against the Igbos? How rational and objective is that?


Good to know this.


Your leaders and elders have always pushed the narrative that the North is one and inseparable. So why are you trying to separate it?


Ok


Stop stereotyping the whole of Igbo people.


Igbos have always seen themselves as the victims in all these crises and you in turn have always seen yourselves as the victors. Even to this day your leaders have continued to treat the igbos as a conquered and inconsequential people, yet you wonder why the sentiments.


For one, communal clashes are not as significant as inter religious and inter ethnic crisis, so you can't expect them to attract the same attentions and sentiments. Two, bitterness and sentiments do exist in the midst of the people affected by these communal clashes, especially in cases where the aftermaths are not properly managed.


What was the origin of the killings.


Your antecedents precedes you. You sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind.


If you say so.


While I agree that quite a number of the killings in the the North are often mis-labeled, you can't deny the fact that most of them are religion driven.


And what is the definition of "innocent" in Islam?


The only education you gave here was the Yorubas are called Bayarabe in the North. Every other thing was just throwing aspersions.



I personally believe that the whole north is not as terrible as we are constantly made to believe. While I would like the Southerners, especially the Igbos to be more open minded about Hausa/Fulanis, I can't totally blame them for their attitudes. Once bitten, twice shy.
Now listen to me...

Onitsha crisis started when a fulani cow dealer and an igbo butcher clash over money... The butcher refused to pay the Fulani man after selling the cow he supplied to the Igbo butcher... They started fighting and the Fulani man stabbed the Igbo butcher... And that's how Igbos started killing northern treaders and Bussines men in onitsha, okpoko, nkpor, Awada, Tarzana, ugwunakpankpa, main market and upiweka!!

Immidiatly our brothers here want to retaliate our leaders started preaching peace that nothing should happen to the innocent Igbo treaders in any part of the north...

We will never forget the massacre!! I lost my cousin in onitsha... He was there for a Bussiness trip Igbos killed him in upiweka!!

When talking about killings you'll be pointing fingers at the north!!

Just because the Northerners back then don't have media coverage!!

Thank God for this new generation!! Our eyes are wide open like that of an eagle!!

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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by DanArewaa: 2:12pm On Apr 18, 2020
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DanArrewa:
Now listen to me...

Onitsha crisis started when a fulani cow dealer and an igbo butcher clash over money... The butcher refused to pay the Fulani man after selling the cow he supplied to the Igbo butcher... They started fighting and the Fulani man stabbed the Igbo butcher... And that's how Igbos started killing northern treaders and Bussines men in onitsha, okpoko, nkpor, Awada, Tarzana, ugwunakpankpa, main market and upiweka!!

Immidiatly our brothers here want to retaliate our leaders started preaching peace that nothing should happen to the innocent Igbo treaders in any part of the north...

We will never forget the massacre!! I lost my cousin in onitsha... He was there for a Bussiness trip Igbos killed him in upiweka!!

When talking killing you'll be pointing fingers at the north!!

Just because the Northerners back then don't have media coverage!!

Thank God for this new generation!! Our eyes are wide open like that of an eagle!!
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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by DanArewaa: 2:14pm On Apr 18, 2020
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DanArrewa:


Aguleri VS umuleri igbo killing Igbos hundreds of lives were lost!

Nkpor VS obosi Igbos killing Igbos hundreds of lives were lost in that crisis

Ebonyi vs Benue... Igbos invading Benue to steal their land...

Amaeke vs Amaugu crisis in enugu state!!Igbos killing Igbos because of land dispute!
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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by DanArewaa: 2:15pm On Apr 18, 2020
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DanArrewa:
the picture you posted doesn't mean anything... Northerners don't claim any land that is not theirs... Igbos are the ones dragging Yoruba land with the Yorubas... Who are the people saying that Lagos is no man's land?? Who the people boasting that they've taking over Lagos??
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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by DanArewaa: 2:15pm On Apr 18, 2020
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DanArrewa:

You don't even know how to lie
When we gave you quit notice in the North, why was your father begging? Why didn't Igbos keep their pride intact and leave the North?Uwazuruike one of your Hero visited El-Mustapha in Kaduna to beg him! Where is your pride?? Where is your arrogance??

Look at this picture very well and weep for your coming generations
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Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by khiaa(f): 2:15pm On Apr 18, 2020
Deepfeel:
Your hate for Igbo's started a long time even before Nigeria got independent, your hate for Igbo's didn't stop them from doing business and settling in the north 100k Igbo's were killed in the north before the Biafran war, what haven't you northerners done to us, yet we forgave you plus the Yoruba's


You made yourselves this way not the igbos

Why all the hatred towards Igbos?
Re: The Lies About Religious Crisis In Northern Nigeria by khiaa(f): 2:16pm On Apr 18, 2020
DanArewaa:
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Why are you crossing out your own words?

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