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Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by Etinosa1234: 1:52pm On Jul 16, 2020
soleexx:
Of course, I will advice you focus on Software development...

"He No Hard Atall "
Do away with any distraction
Learn and practice daily
Be positive
Ask questions from your mentor many times... You paid for it...

Goodluck

pls do u have any books that elaborate on software development
thanks

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Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by saajus: 1:56pm On Jul 16, 2020
A lot of issues about PHP. It worked perfectly for small jobs but I doubt if any big organization will use PHP for advanced applications like big financial applications. PHP is vulnerable. A little coding mistake will expose one application to hackers. It's also slow, it eats a lot of memory. You won't feel that speed deficiency in a simple website, but you will feel if you want to develop an application like zoom. People always refer to Facebook to defend PHP efficiency, but many people don't know that Facebook develop their own PHP version (HHVM) to fix those disadvantages in the original PHP.
Maj196:
Oga who tell u say php is outdated... Please don't say what you don't know php especially using laravel is still in high demand
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by MoIbrahim: 1:59pm On Jul 16, 2020
romeo411:
I honestly want to switch to programming as in carrier change, considering that I am 40, can I still make it giving every input I put in.
The human brain can process anything at 40, so long as the interest is there.
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by Fidelismaria: 2:00pm On Jul 16, 2020
GrantCashel:
I ve taken the most unconventional approach to learning programming.
Being unserious in secondary school, it affected my progress in 2018.
You need to settle any problem you have with math if you dont want any issues. Google pdfdrive.com and download in this order developmental math for college students, college algebra and trigonometry, linear algebra, classical geometry, calculus, advanced calculus, vector calculus, ordinary and partial differential equations. If you want to avoid begging to build websites on nairaland, avoid web development, android or any shiny applications until you're theoretically grounded.



Okay

So after learning all the above

What's next?
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by monex(m): 2:01pm On Jul 16, 2020
GrantCashel:

Lol. In hindsight, i wish i learned the math first....lists in python, nested loops and 3d arrays in C, recursion took like forever to understand, even when i thought i did, i couldnt harness its true power.

indeed those grounded in theoretical computing can easily get a quick jump.

I have met very good programmers who can take forever to develop a recursive function to solve a problem.

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Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by dbaruwa(m): 2:01pm On Jul 16, 2020
romeo411:
I honestly want to switch to programming as in carrier change, considering that I am 40, can I still make it giving every input I put in.

Absolutely yes u can. I started at 40 and 1'm doing well amazingly

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Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by Sofistcatdmoron: 2:02pm On Jul 16, 2020
Maj196:
Oga who tell u say php is outdated... Please don't say what you don't know php especially using laravel is still in high demand

Go to job sited and search for all these techniques, see the most sought after,
Thank me later ,
As a developer /programme u kerp learning new technologies,, dont depends only what u learnt many years ago
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by iCauseTrouble: 2:02pm On Jul 16, 2020
igboarenice:

By the time he is through with all that maths he will be ready to face his maker
You made me pour my coffee grin

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Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by hunterden: 2:02pm On Jul 16, 2020
saajus:
Yes, it is possible. just a few changes. I'm an average programmer in python not even proficient, and there was a time I want to work on an android app, I picked up the syntax within two weeks to achieve what I want. Not a complicated task, though. Just a simple day to day application. You know Android studio is Java.

Remember, one can pick up the language quickly, but proficiency takes a lot of practice. One must be using it to solve problems daily to be proficient. Programming is not for everybody, especially people that can’t sit down in one place for so long. I have a similar problem, I can’t stay in one place for many hours. That’s why I prefer the architect side of it and leave the coding parts for others. You write a program for 1hr, you debug for 5hrs. That's why Introverts do better in coding.

What do you mean by the architect side of it.can you pls explain.thanks
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by benjatoba(m): 2:03pm On Jul 16, 2020
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Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by saajus: 2:09pm On Jul 16, 2020
In big organization, they will have software architect and software programmer. Architects are the ones that will break the problems down, draw the flow diagram, and do some other few things. They basically solve the problem. Programmers just come and code the solutions.


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Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by Hadelesam89(m): 2:13pm On Jul 16, 2020
romeo411:
I honestly want to switch to programming as in carrier change, considering that I am 40, can I
still make it giving every input I put in.

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Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by Originalsly: 2:16pm On Jul 16, 2020
GrantCashel:


I ve taken the most unconventional approach to learning programming.
Being unserious in secondary school, it affected my progress in 2018.
You need to settle any problem you have with math if you dont want any issues. Google pdfdrive.com and download in this order developmental math for college students, college algebra and trigonometry, linear algebra, classical geometry, calculus, advanced calculus, vector calculus, ordinary and partial differential equations. If you want to avoid begging to build websites on nairaland, avoid web development, android or any shiny applications until you're theoretically grounded.


@ OP.... I know absolutely nothing about programming..... but the above advice is the real deal. If I want to be a successful journalist.... what would be your advice if I am illiterate?

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Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by Geeman23(m): 2:17pm On Jul 16, 2020
mcqwerty:


Online courses (MOOC) are good but it's easy to get distracted by internet surfing and social media. Its also quite easy to not fully commit because you are learning at your own pace which might be a disaster because not all of us are super disciplined. It's very e itasy to jump from course A to Course B based on what your friend said about this language or stuff like that. I got tons of youtube videos on my PC but I only watch the ones that are presented like a Full Course.

You need to commit! One of the most efficient ways is a classroom learning experience. Forget that NIIT has good books and bad teachers. The teachers show you the way, it's your duty to study and do the grueling work of writing and debugging actual code and programs. It's your money on the line. It comes with some seriousness.

By the time you are done with a 3-6mths programming course and a certificate, you are beginning to think like a hacker and start having the "Hacker mindset" (that is, a solution provider), and you can increase your learning with this online courses and youtube videos and actually follow along and understand it. This is where I recommend online learning.

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Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by afroxyz: 2:23pm On Jul 16, 2020
AfonjaConehead:
If ivartheboneless hotoro could do it@ 50,you can. grin
What did he do @50?
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by Goodman247: 2:26pm On Jul 16, 2020
Some people get a job at 40, get married at 40 etc, l can learn new things even at 70
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by explorer250(m): 2:27pm On Jul 16, 2020
saajus:
A lot of issues about PHP. It worked perfectly for small jobs but I doubt if any big organization will use PHP for advanced applications like big financial applications. PHP is vulnerable. A little coding mistake will expose one application to hackers. It's also slow, it eats a lot of memory. You won't feel that speed deficiency in a simple website, but you will feel if you want to develop an application like zoom. People always refer to Facebook to defend PHP efficiency, but many people don't know that Facebook develop their own PHP version (HHVM) to fix those disadvantages in the original PHP.

very wrong. Sir, please update your knowledge! The issues you raised has been addressed with PHP7. php7 is three times faster than Python
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by Koak(m): 2:28pm On Jul 16, 2020
Which type of programming language is suitable for writing software for civil engineering and structural engineering!?
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by Akhirastriver(m): 2:29pm On Jul 16, 2020
Yes ,u can can can ,who said u can't can
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by Joemetry(m): 2:32pm On Jul 16, 2020
GrantCashel:
I ve taken the most unconventional approach to learning programming.
Being unserious in secondary school, it affected my progress in 2018.
You need to settle any problem you have with math if you dont want any issues. Google pdfdrive.com and download in this order developmental math for college students, college algebra and trigonometry, linear algebra, classical geometry, calculus, advanced calculus, vector calculus, ordinary and partial differential equations. If you want to avoid begging to build websites on nairaland, avoid web development, android or any shiny applications until you're theoretically grounded.

Funny enough all these topics in maths and advanced maths are a no brainer to me but the motivation to commit to this programming has never been there.

I think I need a zealous study Buddy.

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Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by mikezuruki: 2:32pm On Jul 16, 2020
tot:


And then you insulted him in the process of making your own point cheesy

OP, you can achieve whatever you put your mind to.

I advised him to not be stvpid. There’s a difference
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by saajus: 2:41pm On Jul 16, 2020
Wow, 3x faster than python. I never knew. Thanks, Boss
explorer250:


very wrong. Sir, please update your knowledge! The issues you raised has been addressed with PHP7. php7 is three times faster than Python
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by SavageResponse(m): 2:46pm On Jul 16, 2020
igboarenice:

By the time he is through with all that maths he will be ready to face his maker

Wicked sombori grin

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Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by Testimony1988(m): 2:47pm On Jul 16, 2020
Yeah, put in your best.
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by witnezHD(m): 2:54pm On Jul 16, 2020
GrantCashel:

Lol. In hindsight, i wish i learned the math first....lists in python, nested loops and 3d arrays in C, recursion took like forever to understand, even when i thought i did, i couldnt harness its true power.
pls drop a comprehensive list of math needed to be learnt while learn python... i just started python 3weeks ago with w3 and so far it has been amazing...rsvp
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by witnezHD(m): 2:54pm On Jul 16, 2020
GrantCashel:

Lol. In hindsight, i wish i learned the math first....lists in python, nested loops and 3d arrays in C, recursion took like forever to understand, even when i thought i did, i couldnt harness its true power.
pls drop a comprehensive list of math needed to be learnt while learnING python... i just started python 3weeks ago with w3 and so far it has been amazing...rsvp
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by SavageResponse(m): 3:00pm On Jul 16, 2020
hush15:


Well, I will give you an honest opinion in the optimistic context.

While many say "sure you can", at that age the truth is its relative to a lot of factors. I don't want to discourage you cos they right, you can achieve anything if you true to your goals but am the type that like to be realistic and true to my self. Not that its impossible, its just that how prepared are you mentally for the task ahead considering your antecedence.

You need to be true to yourself. Many don't understand the concept of programming as it is multifaceted on its own. The are many types of programming languages out there. So depending on what you are going for will also determine whether you can cope or not.

Also there are different aspects of programming. Basically, there is the frontend and a backend side of programming. The latter requires more in depth knowledge on programming logics than the frontend side of it. Back end is more db related and your intuition level and logical reasoning must be spot on. You must be a good analyst and deep thinker to survive that end. Also to that end, you understand some core basic machine language, then how storage is being handled. So depending which side you want to go, it determines how deep you can go. Even the front end isn't a walk in the park but you will survive at your age.

That brings us to the question about your history is quantitative analysis. How good is your reading and reasoning skills? Cos programmers are thinkers and they must be able to interprete their thoughts in logical steps to achieve desired results. The phone we use, just imagine how deep people think to program a phone just to give us joy. So its serious business with 247 dedication.

That leads to the final question, what's your social life like cos I will tell you one truth, if you are a faaji person, a baller who is very active in social life, I suggest you forget programming cos most programmers are solitary folks whose nature doesn't go with a faaji person. As a thinker, you probably spend more time quietly and indoors. You probably be walking with pen and notepad everywhere. Just look at zuckerberg, his fashion sense is zero, not because he doesn't have the money, he just doesn't have the time to look good.

With all that being discussed, if you being honest with yourself, you will know what yo do.

OP I think you should listen to this guy, he knows what he's saying.

I have done a bit a programming so I know that for you to go far in it you need to have the passion and not just be in it for the money or because you thing there are better job opportunities there.

In addition at your age I suspect you would have more distraction by way of a wife and kids whose needs have to be met from time to time.

For you to have a good grounding ip programming you should be able to devote hours upon hours with little interruptions to learning, practising and solving problems!

romeo411:
I honestly want to switch to programming as in carrier change, considering that I am 40, can I still make it giving every input I put in.
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by MightySparrow: 3:09pm On Jul 16, 2020
romeo411:
I honestly want to switch to programming as in carrier change, considering that I am 40, can I still make it giving every input I put in.
Don't let age deceive you, it is just a number. mike tyson wants to go back to the ring at 51. At what age did obasanjo get his PhD?

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Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by uvie66: 3:16pm On Jul 16, 2020
romeo411:
I honestly want to switch to programming as in carrier change, considering that I am 40, can I still make it giving every input I put in.
At 40 your English is still littered with basic spelling errors, don't you know the difference between career and carrier.
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by mlkraj(m): 3:17pm On Jul 16, 2020
tensazangetsu20:

Which one is core programming languages. JavaScript has been there since the beginning of the web in 1995. Talking about those 10k website builders, how many of them know JavaScript. Almost everyone that can now edit WordPress is a JavaScript developer. Webapps are getting more complicated and JavaScript continues to dominate. It's now even used in Games. It was used in FIFA 20.

Guy hw far na, who the hell would use JavaScript for a serious game when there is c++ ? Don't u know JavaScript is very much slower than c++ or even c# when real games are speed/performance demanding

Fact: all game engines are built on c++ and I just googled Fifa20 was also built on c++ with a touch of c# and Python
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by professore(m): 3:22pm On Jul 16, 2020
Nice advice
Re: At 40, Can I Still Learn Programming And Be Good At It? by TheManOfTheYear: 3:27pm On Jul 16, 2020
hush15:


Well, I will give you an honest opinion in the optimistic context.

While many say "sure you can", at that age the truth is its relative to a lot of factors. I don't want to discourage you cos they right, you can achieve anything if you true to your goals but am the type that like to be realistic and true to my self. Not that its impossible, its just that how prepared are you mentally for the task ahead considering your antecedence.

You need to be true to yourself. Many don't understand the concept of programming as it is multifaceted on its own. The are many types of programming languages out there. So depending on what you are going for will also determine whether you can cope or not.

Also there are different aspects of programming. Basically, there is the frontend and a backend side of programming. The latter requires more in depth knowledge on programming logics than the frontend side of it. Back end is more db related and your intuition level and logical reasoning must be spot on. You must be a good analyst and deep thinker to survive that end. Also to that end, you understand some core basic machine language, then how storage is being handled. So depending which side you want to go, it determines how deep you can go. Even the front end isn't a walk in the park but you will survive at your age.

That brings us to the question about your history is quantitative analysis. How good is your reading and reasoning skills? Cos programmers are thinkers and they must be able to interprete their thoughts in logical steps to achieve desired results. The phone we use, just imagine how deep people think to program a phone just to give us joy. So its serious business with 247 dedication.

That leads to the final question, what's your social life like cos I will tell you one truth, if you are a faaji person, a baller who is very active in social life, I suggest you forget programming cos most programmers are solitary folks whose nature doesn't go with a faaji person. As a thinker, you probably spend more time quietly and indoors. You probably be walking with pen and notepad everywhere. Just look at zuckerberg, his fashion sense is zero, not because he doesn't have the money, he just doesn't have the time to look good.

With all that being discussed, if you being honest with yourself, you will know what yo do.
Not all programmers are nerds. let's stop this stereotype abeg.
I'm a programmer and I'll still go and faaji at clubs, parties etc

Life is not all about coding, there's time to learn and there's time to take a break

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