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Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 12:25pm On May 03, 2020
When someone enters my house with a weapon and wanted to attack me, but I quickly fight back and harm him. Have I committed any sin or offence before God?

Well why I brought this question is this. During the period of the lockdown, when one million boys were disturbing and threatening the whole places. I decided to join the boys in my neighborhood to move around with cutlass to keep our environment safe. Yes I know God is our protector. A lots of people criticized it even my wife. Please is it wrong for me to engage in such a thing.

Please don't mind my grammatical blunders.
Thank you.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by bigiyaro(m): 12:32pm On May 03, 2020
its not a sin.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Solowande(m): 12:34pm On May 03, 2020
What Jesus told Peter when he cut off the ear of one of d bad guys?

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by MistadeRegal(m): 12:38pm On May 03, 2020
Self defense is not prohibited by the Bible, neither condemned by JESUS CHRIST. What He only doesn't approve of is terrorism.

If you have an artillery for self defense, it's not a sin.
As Christians, we have a GOD-given-right-to-bear-arms.

Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 12:42pm On May 03, 2020
Solowande:
What Jesus told Peter when he cut off the ear of one of d bad guys?

Yea that's exactly why I want to be cleared adequately. But God supported his children in the old testament to Fight against their enemies.

2. Is it not foolishness on my own part to allow my enemy to kill me when I have the capability at my own disposal to prevent it?

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by whizbee(m): 12:43pm On May 03, 2020
iyalaya anybody, make one useless thief come close, he'll find out why Jesus didn't jump from the mountain when the devil was testing him

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 12:55pm On May 03, 2020
MistadeRegal:
Self defense is not prohibited by the Bible, neither condemned by JESUS CHRIST. What He only doesn't approve of is terrorism.

If you have an artillery for self defense, it's not a sin.
As Christians, we have a GOD-given-right-to-bear-arms.

Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Thank you. There was a time I wanted to flee my house because of fear. Lots of thoughts were going on in my mind weather to run or stay and face them.
I can't allow little children to rape my wife right before my face. so I have to join those boys outside to fight for my self. But my wife kicked against it, which nearly bring quarrel between us.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by achorladey: 1:00pm On May 03, 2020
The THIN line between PACIFISM and SELF DEFENSE lies the GREY AREAS. Everybody go carry him own load last last when matter reach that level.

Romans 12:18

New International Version
If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.

New Living Translation
Do all that you can to live in peace with everyone.

English Standard Version
If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Berean Study Bible
If it is possible on your part, live at peace with everyone.

Berean Literal Bible
if possible of you, living at peace with all men;

New American Standard Bible
If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men.

New King James Version
If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men.

We pray we don't get to such situations or GREY AREAS but mind got to be prepared ahead of that time. Such situations carries, life, death untold pain that could linger for years.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by donbachi(m): 1:00pm On May 03, 2020
"If dem slap u dis side,give dem d other side"...anybody wey slap me,I go break him head.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by MistadeRegal(m): 1:11pm On May 03, 2020
Princewell2012:


Thank you. There was a time I wanted to flee my house because of fear. Lots of thoughts were going on in my mind weather to run or stay and face them.
I can't allow little children to rape my wife right before my face. so I have to join those boys outside to fight for my self. But my wife kicked against it, which nearly bring quarrel between us.

Don't worry. Just tell your wife to read that Bible verse.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 1:13pm On May 03, 2020
achorladey:
The THIN line between PACIFISM and SELF DEFENSE lies the GREY AREAS. Everybody go carry him own load last last when matter reach that level.

Romans 12:18

New International Version
If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.

New Living Translation
Do all that you can to live in peace with everyone.

English Standard Version
If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Berean Study Bible
If it is possible on your part, live at peace with everyone.

Berean Literal Bible
if possible of you, living at peace with all men;

New American Standard Bible
If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men.

New King James Version
If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men.

We pray we don't get to such situations or GREY AREAS but mind got to be prepared ahead of that time. Such situations carries, life, death untold pain that could linger for years.

Hmm
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 1:22pm On May 03, 2020
MistadeRegal:

Don't worry. Just tell your wife to read that Bible verse.
Thanks.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Nobody: 2:02pm On May 03, 2020
Princewell2012:


Yea that's exactly why I want to be cleared adequately. But God supported his children in the old testament to Fight against their enemies.

2. Is it not foolishness on my own part to allow my enemy to kill me when I have the capability at my own disposal to prevent it?


In Peter's case, he was fighting a Wrong battle cos the word of God must be fulfilled. so Peter was more like trying to hinder /interrupt the plan of God for Jesus to be given up at that time. So it different.

If you see someone trying to attack you, by all means, defend yourself. But one thing I know for sure, God will never allow evil attack on His children.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 2:10pm On May 03, 2020
Eulalia:



In Peter's case, he was fighting a Wrong battle cos the word of God must be fulfilled. so Peter was more like trying to hinder /interrupt the plan of God for Jesus to be given up at that time. So it different.

If you see someone trying to attack you, by all means, defend yourself. But one thing I know for sure, God will never allow evil attack on His children.

Thank you. Am trying to buy a cutlass, is it a bad idea? I dont have any in my house right now.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Nobody: 2:20pm On May 03, 2020
Princewell2012:


Thank you. Am trying to buy a cutlass, is it a bad idea? I dont have any in my house right.

That would be wishing or calling for it. Just pray a prayer of protection always. The reason your action against the MBoys was justified is because they were already on their way. You guys were taken unawares. So from now on guard against such with prayers and they won't even know your dwelling.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by joinpreneur(m): 2:27pm On May 03, 2020
Sin is not in the act but wishes and desires.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 3:19pm On May 03, 2020
Eulalia:


That would be wishing or calling for it. Just pray a prayer of protection always. The reason your action against the MBoys was justified is because they were already on their way. You guys were taken unawares. So from now on guard against such with prayers and they won't even know your dwelling.

Thats exactly what i have started doing already, after a lots of aguement with my wife. Believe you me i can sleep fine now. It seems like my wife has more faith than i do. Lol some time she will say jokingly later you will call yourself a pastor.

Thanks for your understanding.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Nobody: 3:22pm On May 03, 2020
Princewell2012:


Thats exactly what i have started doing already, after a lots of aguement with my wife. Believe you me i can sleep fine now. It seems like my wife has more faith than i do. Lol some time she will say jokingly later you will call yourself a pastor.

Thanks for your understanding.

Lol really? She's funny though.
You're welcome.
Stay safe.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 3:31pm On May 03, 2020
Eulalia:


Lol really? She's funny though.
You're welcome.
Stay safe.
Thank you. dont mind her, she dont know i was only after the wellbeing of her and her children.

Happy sunday.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 4:05pm On May 03, 2020
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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by achorladey: 5:38pm On May 03, 2020
Princewell2012:
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I have something for you to read should be interested.

1. An article from an Awake Magazine.... follow the link

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102008204

2. A long material on PACIFISM.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pacifism/
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by infini771: 5:48pm On May 03, 2020
No, you have right to self defense. But don't rely on your power for protection. Cast your care to God for he cares for you.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Nobody: 6:12pm On May 03, 2020
achorladey:


I have something for you to read should be interested.

1. An article from an Awake Magazine.... follow the link

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102008204

2. A long material on PACIFISM.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pacifism/

Haba Apostate! undecided

Someone threw a question to the floor and all you could do is to quote the publication of your enemy not even the Bible!

So Awake magazine has now become the book to refer people who asked sincere questions!

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by achorladey: 6:25pm On May 03, 2020
Maximus69:


Haba Apostate! undecided

Someone threw a question to the floor and all you could do is to quote the publication of your enemy not even the Bible!

So Awake magazine has now become the book to refer people who asked sincere questions!

When you look up the thread. IT TELLS ME I WAS HERE BEFORE YOU and it should convey same message to you.

JESUS didn't say HABA APOSTATES when SATAN quoted the PSALMS in Matthew 4.

Hahahahaha

Who told you JWS are my ENEMY? Hahahahaha.

You want to CONSOLE yourself Oga Maximus69 alias I AM THROUGH WITH YOU

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Brunicekid(m): 6:27pm On May 03, 2020
Self defence when done properly: I don't think that's a sin.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Nobody: 6:43pm On May 03, 2020
achorladey:


When you look up the thread. IT TELLS ME I WAS HERE BEFORE YOU and it should convey same message to you.

JESUS didn't say HABA APOSTATES when SATAN quoted the PSALMS in Matthew 4.

Hahahahaha

Who told you JWS are my ENEMY. Hahahahaha.

You want to CONSOLE yourself Oga Maximus69 alias I AM THROUGH WITH YOU

Wow!

So JW is not your enemy but you always oppose them whenever they stand out as the one and only organization of the true God.

Why aren't you quoting the scriptures or why not the publication of any other religion but Watchtower? undecided

Hmmmmmmmm so you know the truth but keep criticising it! embarassed

Now it's clear than ever that you're of your father the devil!

That's how Satan was quoting God's word but if anyone wants to stand by that word, the same Satan will fight tough to discourage such a person!

Glory be to the true God Jehovah!

As from today, keep watch on whatever you say against Jehovah's Witnesses Organization, because you're quick in quoting our publications yet always opposing our stand, watchout for your judgement is fast approaching if you did not desist from opposing God's people! embarassed

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by CodeTemplar: 6:49pm On May 03, 2020
Solowande:
What Jesus told Peter when he cut off the ear of one of d bad guys?
Peter was standing in the way of a prophecy about Jesus' crucifixion.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by achorladey: 7:12pm On May 03, 2020
Maximus69:


Wow!

So JW is not your enemy but you always oppose them whenever they stand out as the one and only organization of the true God.

Why aren't you quoting the scriptures or why not the publication of any other religion but Watchtower? undecided

Hmmmmmmmm so you know the truth but keep criticising it! embarassed

Now it's clear than ever that you're of your father the devil!

That's how Satan was quoting God's word but if anyone wants to stand by that word, the same Satan will fight tough to discourage such a person!

Glory be to the true God Jehovah!

As from today, keep watch on whatever you say against Jehovah's Witnesses Organization, because you're quick in quoting our publications yet always opposing our stand, watchout for your judgement is fast approaching if you did not desist from opposing God's people! embarassed

Did you look up at all? Hahahahahaha. It's you that will tell me to KEEP WATCH on WHATEVER I stated on Nairaland. Laughable.

Let me ask you again WHAT is the TRUTH I know? Another laughable matter.

You will equally choose the material I want to cite on Nairaland. Laughable.

Maximus69: Now it's clear than ever that you're of your father the devil!

Achorladey: It's a pity and SMH matter from NWT so that you can say I don't have any other BIBLE than NWT HAHAHAHAHA

Romans 8: 33 Who will file accusation against God’s chosen ones? God is the One who declares them righteous. 34 Who will condemn them? CHRIST JESUS is the one who DIED, yes, more than that, the one who was Raised up, who is at the right hand of God and who also PLEADS FOR us.


Oga Maximus69 did you DIE for me? Are you the ONE PLEADING for me?


I will put you on the SPOT and it will be GOOD you answer and IF you don't your PALAVER the FINGER is pointing at YOU from the START you are only SHYING AWAY.

How many Bible translation did I cite in my first post on THIS PARTICULAR thread?

Did I cite and quoted the BIBLE in that first POST.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 7:27pm On May 03, 2020
achorladey:

I have something for you to read should be interested.
1. An article from an Awake Magazine.... follow the link
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102008204
2. A long material on PACIFISM.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pacifism/
Thank you. I will go through it.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Nobody: 7:28pm On May 03, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Peter was standing in the way of a prophecy about Jesus' crucifixion.

Self defense is something we should look into critically as students of the greatest Counselor who ever lived on this planet.

The people who ordered Jesus' arrest are the rulers of the Jewish community back then (authority) so it's wrong from God's standpoint to resist such arrest.
The reason why Peter felt like fighting back is because the community police came with thugs holding clubs and machetes to arrest an innocent man at night! Matthew 26:55

Of course a Christian can defend himself but you must take into consideration some important facts.

©Are you doing so just to protect lives?
©Are you doing so to protect properties?
©What is the motive behind your actions, to kill the culprit or disarm him?
©What is your opinion, killing him after he's disarmed or to take him to the authorities?

(1)There many ways to protect your life, Jesus taught us not to accumulate material possessions because it will attract both good and evil people to us. So while trying to protect such possessions we may deny the Christ! Matthew 19:16-24

(2)Whatever property we acquire belongs to the world, we brought nothing and we can't take any out of here {1Timothy 6:7} so if the children of the world (Satan's agents) catches us in a tight corner and demand for these things, the best for a child of God to remember is that "the world will pass away with it's desires"! 1John 2:15-17

(3)We shouldn't think of taking anybody's life no matter what such a person does, we should remember that as Christians we have a duty 'to save lives and not to take it' so our motive should always be to disarm the culprit.

(4)After he has been overpowered, we must not forget that such a thing is not by our might, so we shouldn't judge him {Matthew 7:1} we can only take him to the appropriate authority to do their own job! Romans 13:1-7

God bless you! smiley

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by achorladey: 7:39pm On May 03, 2020
Princewell2012:


Thank you. I will go through it.

Please thank Maximus69 too, he has held my NECK tightly and don't want to GIVE me space to BREATHE for citing the PUBLICATION(Awake) of the ORGANIZATION he is a member of and CHERISH simply because I place SOME of HIS post on NAIRALAND under SCRUTINY.

If you don't do so HE will COME BACK and say I am enjoying the GLORY of the ORGANIZATION he belongs despite not in agreement with what they DO.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Nobody: 7:56pm On May 03, 2020
achorladey:


Please thank Maximus69 too, he has held my NECK tightly and don't want to GIVE me space to BREATHE for citing the PUBLICATION(Awake) of the ORGANIZATION he is a member of and CHERISH simply because I place SOME of HIS post on NAIRALAND under SCRUTINY.

If you don't do so HE will COME BACK and say I am enjoying the GLORY of the ORGANIZATION he belongs despite not in agreement with what they DO.

It's not about what they do but what they say about themselves!

Jehovah's Witnesses Organization claims to be the one and only group that God is using to teach honest hearted people in this last days, and that has been the way they always portray themselves!

The question is do you agree with their assertion?

If no is your answer, then why quoting their publication or referring people to it?

You are always learning from them but when they say they're the only true Christian group, you'll start opposing them as if you have any other group to present! undecided

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