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|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by seankafor(m): 1:29pm On May 04|
Danielhouston:what if you make use of VPN
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Danielhouston: 1:30pm On May 04|
You want to study MSc in Germany or Nigeria? Either way, you’ll need to speak German and have studied in Germany before you get a teaching job. Unless you want to be an international or visiting Lecturer like Onyeka Nwelue.
How easy it is to get a job? Nothing is easy but you’ll have to look for. I don’t know and I’ve never seen a black professor or lecturer in Germany.
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Danielhouston: 1:33pm On May 04|
Pls be specific with your question. It’s too broad
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by francdec4(m): 1:35pm On May 04|
Thank you very much and am open to lecture as well.
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Trenton: 1:52pm On May 04|
Hadampson:yes bro...the castle is magical...sadly the king who built it never got to enjoy it
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by jesmond3945: 2:11pm On May 04|
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Tobexin(m): 2:25pm On May 04|
themaestro08:lol this guy here doesn’t even know the international airport in Nigeria! He is still in Nigeria day dreaming and claiming he knows it all. No where is perfect every countries has it flaws! You even opened a thread on this having gone through your posts and the last person who commented warned you. I will call a spade a spade.
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|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by polaa: 2:54pm On May 04|
is it possible to come to Germany and later relocate to the UK ? maybe after studying and working for a while in Germany
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by post111(m): 3:10pm On May 04|
What is my chances of getting a good job in Germany as law graduate after completing my masters degree in one of the German university?
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|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Ugoerico(m): 3:29pm On May 04|
Sorry about that bro, coudnt you just set off the debt and be free? Can't imagine seeing mysef in such position. Those rights and privileges are very important to ones growth and confort here. Anyway you are a Bachelor shaa so u can always wangle. More grace bro!
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Danielhouston: 4:36pm On May 04|
Things don’t work like that in Germany. Even if you can afford it, you have to explain where the money came from, your other sources of income and if you’re cheating the system in anyway. This is not Nigeria where you do some runs and be throwing money into your First Bank account and nobody will ask you questions.
That’s why you have to state your income and agree with the company on a certain amount you can pay every month. The percentage of the interest is also calculated that way. If you pay more than the agreed monthly amount, it means your income has improved, so will the percentage.
I can have a business in Nigeria where I make enough money to pay off the debt but I can’t pay it cos it would be considered money laundering. So I have to do so from my salary, bit by bit.
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|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Danielhouston: 4:39pm On May 04|
Please, people who keep asking if they can get a job after studying in Germany, I have answered the question many times. You cannot keep asking the same question with different professions. The answer is the same. Yes, you can get a job. You have to look for a job. There are uncertainties just like everywhere else. Pls stop naming different professions and asking the same question.
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Dutch2(m): 4:43pm On May 04|
Danielhouston and other contributors please, are there opportunities for an international student in countries like Ukraine, Northern Cyprus to work in tech related fields or take up any work that has to do with programing in Germany during the summer. Would really appreciate any insights, info or advice
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Ugoerico(m): 5:12pm On May 04|
I try not to reply people or engage anybody in a discussion of Racism in Germany. Because I found out that ignorance, irrationality and biasness play alot of roles during such arguments or discussion..
Thus, i have been once asked by people in Nigeria, "Erico how do you walk and work in Germany with the kind of racism we do hear about"?
Another once asked me, "as a black man are you allowed to enter everywhere you want in Germany or enter everywhere that a German can enter?" My reply I guess is not important here.
Firstly, I say Racism exists everywhere in the world in diferent forms not just in Germany. The contemporary racism in SOUTHAFRICA where fellow Africans get kicked out, brutalized and even killed is even worst..
Not only Charity but everything begins at home. One that exists in Nigeria amongst tribes is called what? I have seen where hundreds of House Officers(Doctors) and Internship applicants during a recruitment at a federal hospital in Bayelsa were openly mocked for wasting thier time to apply when they knew they didn't come from Bayelsa state.
I remember after my NYSC in 2010 in Abuja, I once went with my Kogi frends to see the then Minister of Justice Mallam Adoke who was thier brother to submit our CV, but on getting there they spoke only thier language Okene language or so and ended up submitting only thier CVs without mine, I was not even allowed to follow them to enter his office cos I'm not thier tribe!
The Palliatives and other National benefits they are currently distributing in Nigeria, is it evenly distributed across tribes and Races?
That stuff you are calling Racism is what i call "Preferenciallism" in its actual sense which is part of the world structure unfortunately, and we are all guilty in one way or the other, directly or indirectly. It is so because if you have once in your life preferred someone against another over an equitable affair, then believe me, it's same thing.
While some Blacks or Brown or whatever colour you call it are complaining of Racism in Germany, many Germans are also complaining bitterly too of being discriminated against by the German govt by "preferring" or spending hugely on immigrants more than them the citizens?? You now see that atimes it's a relative and conceptual thing.
The only glaring and abnormal form of racism is when it is supported or perpetrated by any Govt such like it was in 1940s in Germany and the outcome of it remains story and history. I think the tales of such sour history still tend to give some people the stereotypical impression of everyday racism in Germany, even when Germany currently has one the strictest laws against racism and discrimination.
In summary, when you feel descriminiated against anywhere, brave up to yourself and resist it, you can also seek redress by exploring the existing laws against such act since such acts are outlawed in most countries.
My worst experience of "racism" here that I can remember was when I first started working with Germans in a firm where I was not only the black man in that work, but also the only non German who could not freely and eloquently express himself in Deutsh( it's a part of Germany where English is not spoken one bit). They were then utilizing my speaking and understanding deficiency to shift ALL errors and blames which arise from the work to me. Sometimes before I could put together my verbs and tenses to talk, they issue is already over.. So I was accepting virtually all guilts and blames of others, I was really burning inside me and started gradually having depressive moods.
But what happened thereafter? How did I tackle it? O mehn I used the last drop of my blood and started learning the language as if my life was hinged on it, took my Language course extremely serios, went further and bought many books and materials, at home nothing else appeared on my TV other than YouTube channels of almost all Deutsch teachers, bought a new ear piece for listening every godamn time I'm outside(good a thing I didn't develop ear problem due to constant sound in the ear ), i made German frends (especially ladies) that I chat with, speak with and vist. After many months of intense training, I saw that I have improved so heavily I took my B1 exam and got almost 100% in all segments, registered for the integration course exam (the score is required whenever u want to apply for citizenship) and made 100% (33/33). I was very happy yet I entered again another B2 school for 6 months intensive after which I started speaking sound quality Deutsch( a couple of govt offices I entered also told me so). I use even idioms, a couple of times I have used big vocabularies that one or two Germans had to check thier meanings in the dictionary and admitted they weren't used to those terminologies.
Now in my work place i work VERY CONFIDENTLY, the way I tackle anybody in my work place trying to be stupid around me eh, all those acts I receive stoped Instantly.
Finally survival is like mathematics, everyman must find his own formular or live by copying from others!
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|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by lymelyte(m): 5:13pm On May 04|
Danielhouston:nice words here
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Ugoerico(m): 5:57pm On May 04|
Bro reduce your speed a little and understand the suggestion/question i asked first. You said earlier that the solution is for one to clear his debts and have a clean sheet again. I now suggested if you could try and clear yours and get your clean Schufer back. You started telling me it doesn't work like that in Germany. To pay ones dept is no longer allowed? Or u no plan pay am ni? Did I ask you to launder money or do any other illegal stuff here other than the debt which according to you, were not meant to be defaulted? Thought you mentioned here that income was checked and amount to pay monthly was calculated and agreed on, so how is settling same debt tantamount to money laundering or cheating the system? .
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Danielhouston: 6:27pm On May 04|
Excuse me, I am here to share my experience with people and assist with information and I’m doing so willingly. Pls be respectful and cordial. I am trying to answer the questions and I’ve done so to the best of my ability. Don’t probe me or question me like I’m a child. My answers have been comprehensive enough for people to understand. You’re intruding.
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by GreatSage: 6:31pm On May 04|
Hadampson:Is there anyway around this block fund of a thing? What if after securing the admission and someone officially invites you to the country, does it cancels the block fund issue?
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Danielhouston: 6:44pm On May 04|
People pls understand that racism is not something you overcome by speaking the language and pretending it doesn’t exist. Ignoring racism does not make it go away. And no, you can not live above it. That thought is dangerous.
The issue of Yoruba vs Igbo and Bayelsa choosing their own people is NOT racism. That is tribalism. They are different things. The issue of South Africans attacking Nigerians is NOT racism. It is prejudice. Pls know the difference. Racism has to do with “race”. Black people cannot be racist towards each other.
A lot of black people in Europe suffer internalized racism, they think if they do things to make the white man happy and take the blame for the racism they experience, it will make it better. You can integrate all you want, speak the language, obey the law, kiss their behind and they will still hate you! There is no excuse for racism and it is NOT your fault. Don’t let them guilt trip you.
I try as much to stay away from black people who don’t see racism or who pretend it doesn’t exist. They are the worst. Some of them are married to racist white people. They’re the ones the racist white people are referring to when they say “I’m not racist, my husband is black”, “I’m not racist, my best friend is black”. Don’t be that black friend. Call them out!
If you’re tired of hearing about racism, close your ears and keep living in Lala land. Don’t tell people not to talk about it or that they’re over reacting. The rights you’re enjoying today is because some black people never stopped talking about it. They fought for your right to travel abroad.
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|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Ifiok21: 6:44pm On May 04|
Can you converse in German and how long have you been learning German for your B1 certificate
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Danielhouston: 6:58pm On May 04|
Yes I can converse in German. I studied A1 in Nigeria at Goethe institute. After I moved here, I learned some street German. When I enrolled in language school here, I wrote a test for them to determine what level I would start from. They scored me and said I would start from A2-2. So I completed A2-2 and B1 in 3 months.
The idea here is that you study A1-1, A1-2, A2-1, A2-2, B1, then you write the B1 exam. You don’t write any exams from A2 until B1. You can go from A1-1 to B1 in 6 months. If you start from A2-2, you can complete B1 in 3 months and get a certificate.
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|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Acuna91: 7:08pm On May 04|
This recism thing is scaring me out mehn. But wait is recism that bad in Germany?
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by janettee(f): 7:09pm On May 04|
School them .
I also stay away from such people, I can't pretend it doesn't exist I can't just!.
And I hate when people think speaking the language will automatically redeem you from racism, like there are foreigners who speak perfct german but still experience racism, myself included.
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|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by horlahsunbo225(m): 7:10pm On May 04|
Danielhouston:Please i need any other 3 good cities for my MSc in computer science apart from Berlin
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Salarys: 7:20pm On May 04|
Op I commend what you're doing with your thread, kudos.
But I want to understand something. I haven't stepped out of the country and all but with what I see on the internet, football plus racist stories heard, I was of the opinion that these things @bolded are same thing playing out with different Terminologies as fitting to the case point scenerio. Racism for race. Tribalism for tribe etc PREJUDICE hiding behind different curtains.
But what do I know? With the way you've been hitting on this issue, I'm guessing you must have had pretty bad experiences that formed your stance. Can you please state specific times where racism is being played out and totally differed from Tribalism? Like what is seen happening between different tribes like we see in Nigeria? Let's leave their terms and look at what is been played out back scene.
I'd really love to be enlightened. Thanks in advance.
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|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by jesmond3945: 7:23pm On May 04|
Danielhouston:how do you cope in the face of racism, what keeps you going?
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by janettee(f): 7:25pm On May 04|
@OP, how's the foreign office in Berlin and how easy is it to renew your residence permit there?. Cause from my experience those people who work at the foreign office can frustrate your life if they want to .
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Danielhouston: 7:26pm On May 04|
Oh don’t be scared. I’m living here and I’m very happy. I wouldn’t live anywhere else. I love Germany. It’s not like racism is flying in the air, waiting to eat you up. No. We’re just trying to make people aware that racism abroad in general is a real issue and it’s something to be prepared for.
Germany is no where near USA. USA is very racist and black people still live there and go there every day. I had lived in Germany for 4 years before anyone called me the N-word and that has happened twice in my 7 years of being in Germany. In some countries you hear it every day.
Germany just does not have a strong black anti-racist movement like the USA or UK. But that is changing as more Black Americans are coming in. So by all means, come to Germany if you can, enjoy it, live your life, be happy, but still be aware and know that no matter where you go, being black is an everyday job.
|Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by jesmond3945: 7:26pm On May 04|
Ugoerico:does it mean you learnt German not because of personal development and to converse but to make your white colleagues like you and stop discriminating against you? You have to know it will not make them like you but at least it will make you work in peace.
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