Modo9:
i am not an atheist but i have noticed people tend to lean towards our emotions when trying to defend god. For example, i was having a discussion with some friends of mine and one guy brought up a point that "it is because i have not suffered that is why i am questioning god"

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Modo9:
i am not an atheist but i have noticed people tend to lean towards our emotions when trying to defend god. For example, i was having a discussion with some friends of mine and one guy brought up a point that "it is because i have not suffered that is why i am questioning god"

Modo9:
i am not an atheist but i have noticed people tend to lean towards our emotions when trying to defend god. For example, i was having a discussion with some friends of mine and one guy brought up a point that "it is because i have not suffered that is why i am questioning god"

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butterfly777:
People use emotional appeal because not everybody is logical. Some people exercise more sentiment than rationality. That's why their way of discussing issues is based on sentiment and emotional appeal, not logical reasoning.

You can easily spot them also when they are discussing football. They cannot put patriotism or club preference side when arguing. They argue blindly.

That's what they also showcase when discussing religious issues. And so many people are like that.

When I was an atheist, and I was in search of the truth, I could hardly hold any helpful discussion on religion with them. Even to answer simple question of how they know there is God, it's either they say that are you wiser than the parents who have been practicing religion, or who created you, and other statements they don't know are not really that rationale.

Thank God that He showed me the way sha. Those people were not of help to me.

hakeem4:
But appealing to people's emotion is a wrong way to discuss. As a believer you are supposed to give evidence.

butterfly777:
People use emotional appeal because not everybody is logical. Some people exercise more sentiment than rationality. That's why their way of discussing issues is based on sentiment and emotional appeal, not logical reasoning.

You can easily spot them also when they are discussing football. They cannot put patriotism or club preference side when arguing. They argue blindly.

That's what they also showcase when discussing religious issues. And so many people are like that.

When I was an atheist, and I was in search of the truth, I could hardly hold any helpful discussion on religion with them. Even to answer simple question of how they know there is God, it's either they say that are you wiser than the parents who have been practicing religion, or who created you, and other statements they don't know are not really that rationale.

Thank God that He showed me the way sha. Those people were not of help to me.

Modo9:
i am not an atheist but i have noticed people tend to lean towards our emotions when trying to defend god. For example, i was having a discussion with some friends of mine and one guy brought up a point that "it is because i have not suffered that is why i am questioning god"

Modo9:
i am not an atheist but i have noticed people tend to lean towards our emotions when trying to defend god. For example, i was having a discussion with some friends of mine and one guy brought up a point that "it is because i have not suffered that is why i am questioning god"

Modo9:
i am not an atheist but i have noticed people tend to lean towards our emotions when trying to defend god. For example, i was having a discussion with some friends of mine and one guy brought up a point that "it is because i have not suffered that is why i am questioning god"

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kingxsamz:
Or some would say, "pray something bad does not happen to you, that will make you look for God".
They use this line when they've got no reasonable point.

Eulalia:



Thank God for the salvation of your soul. Make sure you show others the way "sha".

onlyinJESUS:


Very Simple answer; they have NO argument.

They don't know that atheists are as clueless as themselves

onlyinJESUS:


Have you ever been able to clearly prove the existence of our great God to an atheist?

CAPSLOCKED:



SO WHO ISN'T CLUELESS ABOUT THESE THINGS?

THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US ALL IS THAT ONE GROUP CONTINUES TO LOOK FOR CLUES AND EXPLANATIONS FOR THINGS, THE OTHER GROUP BELIEVES INVISIBLE PERSONS UP ABOVE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT ALL.

Eulalia:


Have you?

onlyinJESUS:


"The other group believes invisible persons" you are wrong sir, the Bible wasn't written by spirits. It was written by men who actually existed.
PEOPLE THAT EXISTED WROTE A BOOK ABOUT TALKING ANIMALS AND INVISIBLE PERSONS. UNTIL THE END OF ALL OF US ALIVE RIGHT NOW ON EARTH, WE MAY NEVER WITNESS BOTH.

"THAT ONE GROUP CONTINUES TO LOOK FOR CLUES AND EXPLANATIONS FOR THINGS" yes! And some of their discoveries could be very contradictory.
THE WORLD HAS PROGRESSED THIS MUCH BECAUSE PEOPLE LOOKED FOR CLUES AND EXPLANATIONS FOR THINGS. WE MAY NOT HAVE HAD IT 100%, BUT AT LEAST, WE CAN NOW EXPLAIN LEPROSY AND LIGHTNING, AND SEVERAL OTHER THINGS WHICH MADE US KILL GOATS IN APPEASEMENT OF GODS.

Some atheists don't even believe in freewill, I mean, the best of atheists. Another group believes there's a freewill.
ATHEISTS, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HAVE THE UNDENIABLE FREEDOM TO BELIEVE WHATEVER THEY WANT. BUT FACT WILL ALWAYS BE FACT, AND LEGENDS WILL ALWAYS BE LEGENDS.

Atheists go against logic in saying that there is no God.
LOGIC IS WHEN YOU TELL AN ATHEIST THERE'S A HORN ON YOUR HEAD AND HE SAYS "SHOW ME".

onlyinJESUS:


Very Simple answer; they have NO argument.

They don't know that atheists are as clueless as themselves

butterfly777:
People use emotional appeal because not everybody is logical. Some people exercise more sentiment than rationality. That's why their way of discussing issues is based on sentiment and emotional appeal, not logical reasoning.

You can easily spot them also when they are discussing football. They cannot put patriotism or club preference side when arguing. They argue blindly.

That's what they also showcase when discussing religious issues. And so many people are like that.

When I was an atheist, and I was in search of the truth, I could hardly hold any helpful discussion on religion with them. Even to answer simple question of how they know there is God, it's either they say that are you wiser than the parents who have been practicing religion, or who created you, and other statements they don't know are not really that rationale.

Thank God that He showed me the way sha. Those people were not of help to me.

LordReed:


We agree we are clueless it's much better than deceiving yourself into claiming you know what you can't possibly know.

Our cluelessness allows us the opportunity to ask questions and grow in knowledge while your self deceit makes you wallow in dogmatic nonsense that blinds you to your humanity.

onlyinJESUS:


You probably forgot the meaning of 'atheist'. Could it be that you misunderstand it to mean agnostic?

Atheists don't claim that they are clueless as regards the existence of God. They affirm that there is no God ANYWHERE. Now, that's even contrary to logic. You must know all things before you can correctly say that, "this or that doesn't exist".

The more consistent natural view is agnosticism.

Also, to say that, "your self deceit makes you wallow in dogmatic nonsense that blinds you to your humanity" is also contrary to logic. That a man can't see or feel the sun doesn't mean its not in existence.

Some men were born blind and with Many others when various deformities. It would be unreasonable for a disabled person to say that, because I can't do this or that therefore, such acts don't exist.

Atheists should understand that it's possible that diety only reveals himself to some

LordReed:


What convinced you a god exists and this god is the one the bible describes?

butterfly777:


Does God exist?

I used to believe that God does not exist, until one day. That day, I read an article which opened my eyes.

That article was about the design in nature. It explains that behind the simless ways our body function and the organs interact with each other, there is an entity that programmed the operation.

Let's look at the digestive system alone. When. You want to eat, the mouth is designed to salivate. Something triggers the body to secret the hormones or enzymes necessary for digestion. Then you start putting the food in your mouth. The mouth is designed by that person to function like a grinding machine, with different types if teeth and your saliva functioning as liquid to mix the food.

Right there in the mouth, some enzymes will also be secreted to aid the breaking down of the food in your body. From the mouth, the entity that designed it has made a conduit - the lungs- to carry the food from the mouth to the intestines. Some food will go through the small intestine, some, will go to the large intestine. Yet, the food does not miss road. They engineering made by someone in our body to takes care of that.

Lest I forget, remember that there are two passages from the mouth area to the internal organs, yet the food knows which passage is its own. It doesn't take the passage meant for oxygen.

The food goes down through our intestines, and the maker has kept some enzymes inside there to further digest that food. After doing that, the engineer who made the body has made some sieves or organs like foam in the body to absorb the nutrients the body will use, and sieve away unwanted food substances.

The way the body absorbs and converts nutrients from food into useful forms is another highly technical process, that cannot happen by accident. Someone or something arranged it to function seamlessly.

Then, the body transports the rejected food waste through some organs ( I'm not a scientist, so don't mind my layman explanation) that will lead it to the anus.

At this stage, the person's brain is made by the maker to make the person feel tht he wants to pass out on the food waste - faeces. The person looks for a nearby restroom and pours out the food materials rejected by the body.

Hence, the body has successfully taken the energy it needs to stay alive from food, and has removed the rest from the body, so that it doesn't cause problem inside the body.

This is just one of the many highly complex arrangements somebody put in our body for it to work well. You may choose to call that somebody creator, or any name you like. But it is clear that someone somewhere made this human body and arranged how it will work.

butterfly777:


Does God exist?

I used to believe that God does not exist, until one day. That day, I read an article which opened my eyes.

That article was about the design in nature. It explains that behind the simless ways our body function and the organs interact with each other, there is an entity that programmed the operation.

Let's look at the digestive system alone. When. You want to eat, the mouth is designed to salivate. Something triggers the body to secret the hormones or enzymes necessary for digestion. Then you start putting the food in your mouth. The mouth is designed by that person to function like a grinding machine, with different types if teeth and your saliva functioning as liquid to mix the food.

Right there in the mouth, some enzymes will also be secreted to aid the breaking down of the food in your body. From the mouth, the entity that designed it has made a conduit - the lungs- to carry the food from the mouth to the intestines. Some food will go through the small intestine, some, will go to the large intestine. Yet, the food does not miss road. They engineering made by someone in our body to takes care of that.

Lest I forget, remember that there are two passages from the mouth area to the internal organs, yet the food knows which passage is its own. It doesn't take the passage meant for oxygen.

The food goes down through our intestines, and the maker has kept some enzymes inside there to further digest that food. After doing that, the engineer who made the body has made some sieves or organs like foam in the body to absorb the nutrients the body will use, and sieve away unwanted food substances.

The way the body absorbs and converts nutrients from food into useful forms is another highly technical process, that cannot happen by accident. Someone or something arranged it to function seamlessly.

Then, the body transports the rejected food waste through some organs ( I'm not a scientist, so don't mind my layman explanation) that will lead it to the anus.

At this stage, the person's brain is made by the maker to make the person feel tht he wants to pass out on the food waste - faeces. The person looks for a nearby restroom and pours out the food materials rejected by the body.

Hence, the body has successfully taken the energy it needs to stay alive from food, and has removed the rest from the body, so that it doesn't cause problem inside the body.

This is just one of the many highly complex arrangements somebody put in our body for it to work well. You may choose to call that somebody creator, or any name you like. But it is clear that someone somewhere made this human body and arranged how it will work.

LordReed:


So basically you became convinced that a supernatural entity created natural processes, correct?

onlyinJESUS:


"The other group believes invisible persons" you are wrong sir, the Bible wasn't written by spirits. It was written by men who actually existed.

"THAT ONE GROUP CONTINUES TO LOOK FOR CLUES AND EXPLANATIONS FOR THINGS" yes! And some of their discoveries could be very contradictory.
Some atheists don't even believe in freewill, I mean, the best of atheists. Another group believes there's a freewill.

Atheists go against logic in saying that there is no God