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Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Amujale(m): 6:57pm On May 20
Eulalia:


You have to first believe.

No, stop believing in lies.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Amujale(m): 6:57pm On May 20
Its pretty simple, we MUST bin all these foreign extremist religions and focus our concentration on reality, African history.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Kobojunkie: 6:58pm On May 20
Roycemadeit:

But, if Thomas who witnessed Jesus' miracles doubted his resurrection, how much more me who's been told the 2000yr old tale?
The same Thomas died for his belief in Jesus Christ. grin
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Kobojunkie: 6:58pm On May 20
Amujale:
Its pretty simple, we MUST bin all these foreign extremist religions and focus our concentration on reality, African history.
Why must we? Because as Africans we are tied to the same destiny and choices? undecided undecided undecided
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Amujale(m): 7:02pm On May 20
Kobojunkie:

Why must we? Because as Africans we are tied to the same destiny and choices? undecided undecided undecided

Because African history is real, proper and true.

African history comprises of Agriculture,  Architecture, Arts, Astronomy, Astrology, Commerce, Engineering, Mathematics, Medical sciences, Philosophy, Physical sciences, Shipbuilding e.t.c

https://www.nairaland.com/5795996/african-origin-civilisation
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Amujale(m): 7:05pm On May 20
Kobojunkie:

Why must we? Because as Africans we are tied to the same destiny and choices? undecided undecided undecided

Foreigners came to Africa, found out about our divine principles and called them God.

The African Gods are the only true and proper ones.

Not to be conflated with the Almighty God.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Amujale(m): 7:07pm On May 20
According to African history, both Christianity and Islam are fake, diabolic and malicious.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Kobojunkie: 7:08pm On May 20
Amujale:

Because African history is real, proper and true.
African history comprises of Agriculture,  Architecture, Arts, Astrounomy, Astrology, Commerce, Engineering, Mathematics, Medical sciences, Philosophy, Physical sciences e.t.c
https://www.nairaland.com/5795996/african-origin-civilisation
Again, are you suggesting that as Africans, we ought all to think like you, worship alike, act like you? Have to choices separate from that which you have based your lot on? undecided undecided undecided
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Kobojunkie: 7:09pm On May 20
Amujale:
According to African history, both Christianity and Islam are fake, diabolic and malicious.
And so, african history defines truth in the world you live in?
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Amujale(m): 7:12pm On May 20
You cannot pray in Jesus name to Amen.

Why?

Because Jesus is a fictional character that never existed.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Amujale(m): 7:13pm On May 20
Kobojunkie:

And so, african history defines truth in the world you live in?

African history is the standard that all history relies.

As in, Africa is where civilisation begins.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Kobojunkie: 7:13pm On May 20
Amujale:

African history is the standard that all history relies.
Because you say so, right?
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Amujale(m): 7:15pm On May 20
Kobojunkie:

Because you say so, right?

According to history, Africa is where civilisation begins.


https://www.nairaland.com/5795996/african-origin-civilisation
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Amujale(m): 7:16pm On May 20
Kobojunkie:

Because you say so, right?

Its pretty simple, we MUST bin all these foreign extremist religions and focus our concentration on African history.

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Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Kobojunkie: 7:17pm On May 20
Amujale:

According to history, Africa is where civilisation begins.
https://www.nairaland.com/5795996/african-origin-civilisation
Because africa is where civilization began means other now established civilizations cannot have their own history? undecided
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Kobojunkie: 7:18pm On May 20
Amujale:

Its pretty simple, we MUST bin all these foreign extremist religions and focus our concentration on African history.
Why we? Why not just you? Why must we do it with you? Are you afraid that you are not enough to do it all by yourself? undecided
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Roycemadeit: 7:23pm On May 20
Eulalia:

Kobojunkie

My dear. Harden not your heart. Make haste while the sun shines.

Some of us have expectations without even
knowing it. All our life we have had thoughts about
what occurs after death, and when we "die"
those thoughts are made manifest, and we
suddenly realize what we've been
thinking about. And it is our strongest thoughts, the
ones we've held most fervently, that, as always in life,
will prevail.

In other words:
A person could go to hell. If he believed
all during life that hell is a place which most
certainly existed, that God will judge "the quick and
the dead," that He will separate the "wheat from the
chaff" and the "goats from the sheep," and that
they are surely "going to hell," given all that they
have done to offend God, then they would go to
hell! They would burn in the everlasting fires of
damnation!

So hell fire and damnation does exist for only those who believe in it.

You must understand that humans have many
fear- based religions whose teachings surround a
doctrine of a God who is to be worshipped and feared.
It was through fear that our entire Earth society
reformed itself from the matriarchy into the
patriarchy. It was through fear that the early priests
got people to "mend their wicked ways" and "
heed the word of the Lord." It was through fear
that churches gained, and controlled, their
membership.
One church even insisted that God would punish
you if you did not go to church every Sunday. Not
going to church was declared a sin.
And not just any church. One had to attend one
particular church. If you went to a church of a
different denomination, that, too, was a sin. This
was an attempt at control, pure and simple, using
fear. The amazing thing is, it worked. Hell, it still
works.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Amujale(m): 7:27pm On May 20
Kobojunkie:

Because africa is where civilization began means other now established civilizations cannot have their own history? undecided

Great point.

However, thats a different and non-relevant question.

As in, that would be applicable if we was talking about a real historical narrative, but that isnt the sutuation. i.e Roman history, Arabian history e.t.c

The bible is fake, false and counterintutive.

In order for us to understand better, one would have to study African history.

How the Eurocentric warmongers used Christianity and the bible to enslave people for over a thousand year straight whereby reading of any other book wasnt allowed, these are the reasons for us having such a discussion in the first instance.

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Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Amujale(m): 7:32pm On May 20
Kobojunkie:

Why we? Why not just you? Why must we do it with you?

Because we need to build a better future for ourselves and the coming generations.

After all that our parents have been through, it doesnt make any sense for us to be following any of these foreign extremist religions.

Christianity and Islam are the number one reason for the way our continent is today.

These are the reasons we MUST bin all these foreign extremist religions and focus our concentration on reality, African history.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Kobojunkie: 7:34pm On May 20
Roycemadeit:

So hell fire and damnation does exist for only those who believe in it.
So, what do you believe exists for you? Are you really certain that simply thinking it makes it real?
Roycemadeit:

You must understand that humans have many fear- based religions whose teachings surround a doctrine of a God who is to be worshipped and feared.It was through fear that our entire Earth society reformed itself from the matriarchy into the patriarchy. It was through fear that the early priests got people to "mend their wicked ways" and "heed the word of the Lord." It was through fear that churches gained, and controlled, their membership.
One church even insisted that God would punish you if you did not go to church every Sunday. Not going to church was declared a sin.
And not just any church. One had to attend one particular church. If you went to a church of a different denomination, that, too, was a sin. This was an attempt at control, pure and simple, using fear. The amazing thing is, it worked. Hell, it still works.
All that proves is that man is manipulative and full of deceit. Regardless of the evil of man's ways, God is.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Kobojunkie: 7:38pm On May 20
Amujale:

Great point.
However, thats a different and non-relevant question.
Oh, it is quite relevant because you started on suggesting that all history should be wrapped around your idea of African history.
Amujale:

As in, that would be applicable if we was talking about a real historical narrative, but that isnt the sutuation. i.e Roman history, Arabian history e.t.c
The bible is fake, false and counterintutive.
In order for us to understand better, one would have to study African history.
But the bible story predates your idea of African history, so?
Amujale:

How the Eurocentric warmongers used Christianity and the bible to enslave people for over a thousand year straight whereby reading of any other book wasnt allowed, these are the reasons for us having such a discussion in the first instance.
But the religion in question pre-dates all of the above.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Roycemadeit: 7:38pm On May 20
Amujale:
You cannot pray in Jesus name to Amen.

Why?

Because Jesus is a fictional character that never existed.

I agree with some of your write ups but this, now the man Jesus walked the earth, did miracles, but a few things about him, circumstance of his birth and his divinity had been fictionalised and borrowed from pre-christian religions.


Jesus sought to lead by example. That is why he
said, "I am the way and the life. Follow me." He
didn't mean "follow me" in the sense that you would
all become his"followers," but in the sense that you
would all follow his example and become one with
God. He said, "I and the Father are One, and ye are
my brethren." He couldn'thave put it more plainly.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Kobojunkie: 7:39pm On May 20
Amujale:

Because we need to build a better future for ourselves and the coming generations.
After all that our parents have been through, it doesnt make any sense for us to be following any of these foreign extremist religions.
Christianity and Islam are the number one reason for the way our continent is today.
These are the reasons we MUST bin all these foreign extremist religions and focus our concentration on reality, African history.
Oh, you are simply looking for something to blame for all the problems in Africa still?An external entity to hold responsible for all of Africa's woes? undecided undecided undecided
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by gensteejay(m): 7:39pm On May 20
Kobojunkie:

Why we? Why not just you? Why must we do it with you? Are you afraid that you are not enough to do it all by yourself? undecided
Try to read good books of history.

The one I mentioned above is an excellent example of such books as it details the origin of gods and goddesses of world's religions (Olohun, Allah, Jehovah, Jesus, Oya, Eshu, Isis, Horus, Amon, Ra, Anu, Zeus, Odin, Buddha, El, Sin, and many others) in addition to the origin of concepts such as hell, heaven, afterlife, demons, angles, and past human species like nephilims, nephilias, anakims, homo erectus, and the modern man, homo sapien.

That book contains a more complete version of almost all the ancient stories, legends, and prophets of Christianity and Islam.

Another piece of literature that discusses the history of humanity is a book written by an Israeli professor of history, Yuval Noah, titled "a Brief History of Humankind — Sapiens".

According to these 2 books, humanity (homo sapiens) began from East Africa. And there are several pieces of evidence in form of fossils in support of this theory, and it's the dominant theory today in archaeology and paleontology about the origin of the modern human race.

So, it's not a notion some people just woke up and started propagating ignorantly.

The first book even says the real Jesus is starkly different from the one portrayed in the Bible.

The real Jesus was a black man from ancient Africa (of the older and extinct species nephilims/homo erectus) called Faulkin and also known as yESHUa or yESHU.

As a matter of fact, Moses and a number of prophets in Qur'an were blacks (ancient Africans). The Bible and Qur'an only contain half-version of the stories about these prophets and don't say much about their origin. That book has a more complete version, which is also more reasonable and believable.

In the book, you'll find the language Yeshua and the gods and goddesses generally spoke during their time on Earth long, long ago. That's the language that's been bastardized by today's pastors when they speak in tongues.

The language is called Seriot. I've studied it in the book and it is a real language. There are some verses in the Bible written in the ancient language of Seriot.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Kobojunkie: 7:41pm On May 20
gensteejay:

Try to read good books of history.
You assume I have not read all of those? Believe you me, I read much of all that while you were still in diapers! grin
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by gensteejay(m): 7:43pm On May 20
Kobojunkie:

You assume I have not read all of those? Believe you me, I read much of all that while you were still in diapers! grin
Keep deceiving yourself. You must think you're talking to a toddler.

When I see a knowledgeable person, I would know easily.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Kobojunkie: 7:44pm On May 20
gensteejay:

Keep deceiving yourself. You must think you're talking to a toddler.

When I see a knowledgeable person, I would know easily.
Sure you would. grin
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Nobody: 7:44pm On May 20
Chai! sad
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Roycemadeit: 7:49pm On May 20
Kobojunkie:

So, what do you believe exists for you? Are you really certain that simply thinking it makes it real?


All that proves is that man is manipulative and full of deceit. Regardless of the evil of man's ways, God is.

Nothing but life continually... Death doesn't exist, just a change of form.

There
is such a thing as good and evil.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by spartan117(m): 7:51pm On May 20
Amujale:


All that rhetoric amounts to nothing.

Jesus is a fictitious character that never existed.

Why?

Because there's no evidence of such a character anywhere in history.

Provide one piece of evidence of the Jesus character.

The story is based on a combination of fakery and falsehood.
in other words you don't want to know the truth.
if that is your choice, then i cannot be of help to you.

Do have a blessed evening.
Stay safe, Shalom.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Roycemadeit: 7:56pm On May 20
This things are very simple let's not make a big nonsense of it.

try adding an "o" somewhere in between the word God, or "d" in the front of evil. This thing are just perspective.
Re: You Cannot Pray In Jesus Name To Amen. by Amujale(m): 7:56pm On May 20
spartan117:

in other words you don't want to know the truth.
if that is your choice, then i cannot be of help to you.

What you mean?

You need to reeducate yourself regarding history.

Christianity peddles a false representation of history

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