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Jesus Is Like Adam by AntiChristian: 12:30am On May 25, 2020
Verily, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allaah is like the example of Adam

“Verily, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allaah is like the example of Adam – He created him from dust and then said to him ‘Be’ and he was. This is the truth from your Lord, so do not be from those who doubt. So whoever disputes with you concerning him (i.e. Jesus) after all this knowledge (about him) has come to you, say: ‘Come, let us summon our children and your children, our women and your women and ourselves and yourselves and then invoke God to send His curses on those of us who is lying.Verily, this is the true story (about Jesus). And there is no God that has the right to be worshipped except Allaah. And indeed Allaah is the All-Mighty, All-Wise.” [Qur’aan 3:59-62]

This great example is a decisive proof that cancels out all the claims of the Christians. This is because if it is not possible or correct according to sound minds, religious doctrines, and innate natures to claim that Adam, whom God created from dust with His Hands and breathed into him his soul, is God or the son of God or part of a divine trinity, then it is for all the more reason that such cannot be claimed for Jesus. This is since the creation of Adam was more remarkable and amazing than that of Jesus, as he was created from dust and dust is not part of the human race.

On the other hand, Jesus was created from a woman, who is part of the human race, and she carried him in her womb in the same manner that woman carry children, and gave birth to him in the same manner that women give birth to children. So this is from the greatest of proofs that invalidate the false claims and absurd misconceptions of the Christians.

As a matter of fact, the angels were created from light without any fathers or mothers, and the Devil was created from fire without any parents. So this is something more remarkable and indicative of the great Ability of God, the Creator, Molder and Originator of the heavens and earth.

Rather, the creation of Eve from the rib of Adam, without any mother, was more miraculous than the creation of Jesus, who was conceived, carried in the womb of a woman and given birth to just as normal women give birth to children. So there does not remain any connection for the Christians according to every person possessing intellect, religion and fairness. But in spite of all this, Jesus, in the eyes of Islaam and the Muslims is far more superior than Adam and many of the other prophets and messengers, according to the Qur’aan and the teachings of Prophet Muhammad. This is since Jesus is one of the five messengers possessing strong will and determination, according to Islaam.

So after all this has been said, what is it that will change between the Christians and Islaam, which is the true religion of God and the religion of Jesus and all of the prophets? Won’t they realize that the greatest form of misguidance and disbelief is to claim that God has a wife and a child, since this is the biggest insult and debasement that can be leveled against God, Lord of all that exists? And the greatest denial of Jesus is to disbelieve in the true message that he brought, such as by saying that he is the son of God, etc., even though he clearly stated from the very first day that he was a slave of God who gave him Revelation, made him a prophet, blessed him wherever he was and entrusted him with prayer and charity. These are characteristics that apply to a created being that is raised and nurtured and in need of his Lord, submitting himself to His Majesty and obedient to His commands.

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Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by Nobody: 1:34am On May 25, 2020
No wonder you've been asking these kinds of questions. I should have known.
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by boscho(m): 1:43am On May 25, 2020
Plavic abeg leave the Op, let him satisfy himself.

Those that compare themselves with themselves are foo__s says Paul

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Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by Nobody: 3:04am On May 25, 2020
Jesus is the one that said he is the son of God not christians
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by Nobody: 5:33am On May 25, 2020
Koboko444:
Jesus is the one that said he is the son of God not christians

Jesus is God's son!

It's TRINITARIANS saying otherwise NOT Christians Sir!

The problem here is Jesus sent his own followers to come and PREACH to you in your own homes! Matthew 10:12

Because what Jesus taught is not as palatable before anyone the way most people are dancing around today {Mark 3:21;John 10:20} he knew fully well that it is not easy for humans to accept what God asked him to teach us {Isaiah 55:8-9} so he never expected his teachings to be celebrated the way most people think they're doing today! Matthew 5:11-12, 10:15, 22-25; 24:9 compare to John 17:14-16

What most people are calling Christianity today was arranged by Satan the evil genius who knew what people will embrace! 1John 5:19

The way Jesus commissioned Christianity it wasn't something you would just wake up one day and walk up into any building with the thought of being one of his followers.

You must have learnt so many things from his followers who were sent to come and teach you in your home, meditate thoroughly on what you've learned, pray fervently to God to help you in practicing this different and strange line of thought then prepare your mind for fierce opposition from all sides before you can become one of Jesus' true followers! Matthew 10:32-38

So the one and only TRUE Christian group today (Jehovah's Witnesses) will continue to tell you repeatedly that Jesus is God's son just like Adam! Luke 3:38 compare to 1Corinthians 15:45

Thanks! smiley
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by Darkerberry: 10:53am On May 25, 2020
You mentioned that the delivery and pregnancy with Jesus Christ was like every other human, what about the most important thing to consider, how He was conceived by an Holy Virgin!
You said the creation of Adam and even Satan was more miraculous than that of Jesus and this the creation of Jesus is not in anyway special and then YOU STILL WENT AHEAD TO WRITE: "But in spite of all this, Jesus, in the eyes of Islaam and the Muslims is far more superior than Adam and many of the other prophets and messengers, according to the Qur’aan and the teachings of Prophet Muhammad'" ISNT THAT IMPLYING SOMEONE REALLY SPECIAL.
And what about the miracles he did, aren't them extra, you also mentioned the special message he brought, How also about the fact that hlHe died and He rose after the third day? Also remember how it had been prophesied about His birth by the prophets that came earlier? How else are these factors not about Part of the Holy Trinity?
I urge u to checkam well OP.
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by AntiChristian: 7:45am On May 26, 2020
Darkerberry:
You mentioned that the delivery and pregnancy with Jesus Christ was like every other human, what about the most important thing to consider, how He was conceived by an Holy Virgin!
You said the creation of Adam and even Satan was more miraculous than that of Jesus and this the creation of Jesus is not in anyway special and then YOU STILL WENT AHEAD TO WRITE: "But in spite of all this, Jesus, in the eyes of Islaam and the Muslims is far more superior than Adam and many of the other prophets and messengers, according to the Qur’aan and the teachings of Prophet Muhammad'" ISNT THAT IMPLYING SOMEONE REALLY SPECIAL.
And what about the miracles he did, aren't them extra, you also mentioned the special message he brought, How also about the fact that hlHe died and He rose after the third day? Also remember how it had been prophesied about His birth by the prophets that came earlier? How else are these factors not about Part of the Holy Trinity?
I urge u to checkam well OP.

Adam has no father and mother, Eve has no mother, Jesus has no father. All these are miracles. None of them is God cos of these.

All of them are special. Even Moses saved thousands of people through the red sea! No one calls him son of God.
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by AntiChristian: 7:47am On May 26, 2020
boscho:
Plavic abeg leave the Op, let him satisfy himself.

Those that compare themselves with themselves are foo__s says Paul

Where did Paul say this and who was he referring to?
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by advocatejare(m): 8:03pm On May 26, 2020
AntiChristian:

Verily, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allaah is like the example of Adam

“Verily, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allaah is like the example of Adam – He created him from dust and then said to him ‘Be’ and he was. This is the truth from your Lord, so do not be from those who doubt. So whoever disputes with you concerning him (i.e. Jesus) after all this knowledge (about him) has come to you, say: ‘Come, let us summon our children and your children, our women and your women and ourselves and yourselves and then invoke God to send His curses on those of us who is lying.Verily, this is the true story (about Jesus). And there is no God that has the right to be worshipped except Allaah. And indeed Allaah is the All-Mighty, All-Wise.” [Qur’aan 3:59-62]

This great example is a decisive proof that cancels out all the claims of the Christians. This is because if it is not possible or correct according to sound minds, religious doctrines, and innate natures to claim that Adam, whom God created from dust with His Hands and breathed into him his soul, is God or the son of God or part of a divine trinity, then it is for all the more reason that such cannot be claimed for Jesus. This is since the creation of Adam was more remarkable and amazing than that of Jesus, as he was created from dust and dust is not part of the human race.

On the other hand, Jesus was created from a woman, who is part of the human race, and she carried him in her womb in the same manner that woman carry children, and gave birth to him in the same manner that women give birth to children. So this is from the greatest of proofs that invalidate the false claims and absurd misconceptions of the Christians.

As a matter of fact, the angels were created from light without any fathers or mothers, and the Devil was created from fire without any parents. So this is something more remarkable and indicative of the great Ability of God, the Creator, Molder and Originator of the heavens and earth.

Rather, the creation of Eve from the rib of Adam, without any mother, was more miraculous than the creation of Jesus, who was conceived, carried in the womb of a woman and given birth to just as normal women give birth to children. So there does not remain any connection for the Christians according to every person possessing intellect, religion and fairness. But in spite of all this, Jesus, in the eyes of Islaam and the Muslims is far more superior than Adam and many of the other prophets and messengers, according to the Qur’aan and the teachings of Prophet Muhammad. This is since Jesus is one of the five messengers possessing strong will and determination, according to Islaam.

So after all this has been said, what is it that will change between the Christians and Islaam, which is the true religion of God and the religion of Jesus and all of the prophets? Won’t they realize that the greatest form of misguidance and disbelief is to claim that God has a wife and a child, since this is the biggest insult and debasement that can be leveled against God, Lord of all that exists? And the greatest denial of Jesus is to disbelieve in the true message that he brought, such as by saying that he is the son of God, etc., even though he clearly stated from the very first day that he was a slave of God who gave him Revelation, made him a prophet, blessed him wherever he was and entrusted him with prayer and charity. These are characteristics that apply to a created being that is raised and nurtured and in need of his Lord, submitting himself to His Majesty and obedient to His commands.

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Jesus is the Son of God and this was confirmed by your Quran saying that Allah blew his spirit into Mary's vagina and got her pregnant.

Your so called Holy Quran tells us about how Allah was boasting about how he blew his spirit(Ruh] into the فَرْج vagina(faraj/farjaha- her vaginaفَرْجَهَا ) of Mariam and impregnating Mariam in that process, and at the same time, your Allah was not brave enough to accept that he was the father of Jesus after he acknowledged the fact that it was after he blew his spirit into Mariam's vagina that she got pregnant with a holy son, Jesus.

The word used in the Arabic Quran is farjaha, which is the Arabic word for "her vaginaفَرْجَهَا" but the translators were ashamed that Allah could boast about how he was sniffing his spirit into the vagina of Mariam hence they deliberately translated farjaha into chastity.

Quran 21:91 wa-allatī aḥṣanat farjahā fanafakhnā fīhā min rūḥinā wajaʿalnāhā wa-ib'nahā āyatan lil'ʿālamīna

Quran 66:12 Wamaryama ibnata AAimrana allatee ahsanat farjaha fanafakhna feehi min roohina wasaddaqat bikalimati rabbiha wakutubihi wakanat mina alqaniteena

Sura 21:91
Wa-allati [and who] ahsanat [guarded] farjaha [vágina] fanafakhnā [so we breathed] feeha [therein] min [of] ruhina [our spirit] waja [and we] alnāhā [made her] wa-ibnahā [and her son] ayatan [a sign/verse] lil’ʿālamīna [for the world].

Sura 66:12
wamaryama[And Maryam] ib'nata[daughter of] ʿim'rāna[Imran] allatī[who] aḥṣanat[guarded] farjahā[HER VAGINA] fanafakhnā[so we BREATHED] fīhi[INTO IT] min[of] rūḥinā[OUR SPIRIT] waṣaddaqat bikalimāti rabbihā wakutubihi wakānat mina l-qānitīna
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by advocatejare(m): 8:09pm On May 26, 2020
AntiChristian:


Adam has no father and mother, Eve has no mother, Jesus has no father. All these are miracles. None of them is God cos of these.

All of them are special. Even Moses saved thousands of people through the red sea! No one calls him son of God.
But no one else is referred to as pure or holy in the Quran except Jesus and God meaning Jesus is divine, pure and sinless. Mention any other person that has that attribute.


Sura 19:19
He said: "Nay I am only a messenger from thy Lord (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son."
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by AntiChristian: 8:23am On May 27, 2020
advocatejare:

But no one else is referred to as pure or holy in the Quran except Jesus and God meaning Jesus is divine, pure and sinless. Mention any other person that has that attribute.


Sura 19:19
He said: "Nay I am only a messenger from thy Lord (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son."



Using this your logic we can ask:

How many people did Allaah spoke with? Moses!

How many did Allaah take as friend? Abraham!

How many did Allaah gave gifts in Paradise? Muhammad!

How many had wealth and control like no other person in the world? Solomon!

And there are many more.

Allah says "Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food." Qur'an 5:75

And in Qur'an 19:30 He (Jesus) said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet."
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by AntiChristian: 8:34am On May 27, 2020
advocatejare:


Jesus is the Son of God and this was confirmed by your Quran saying that Allah blew his spirit into Mary's vagina and got her pregnant.

Your so called Holy Quran tells us about how Allah was boasting about how he blew his spirit(Ruh] into the فَرْج vagina(faraj/farjaha- her vaginaفَرْجَهَا ) of Mariam and impregnating Mariam in that process, and at the same time, your Allah was not brave enough to accept that he was the father of Jesus after he acknowledged the fact that it was after he blew his spirit into Mariam's vagina that she got pregnant with a holy son, Jesus.

The word used in the Arabic Quran is farjaha, which is the Arabic word for "her vaginaفَرْجَهَا" but the translators were ashamed that Allah could boast about how he was sniffing his spirit into the vagina of Mariam hence they deliberately translated farjaha into chastity.

Quran 21:91 wa-allatī aḥṣanat farjahā fanafakhnā fīhā min rūḥinā wajaʿalnāhā wa-ib'nahā āyatan lil'ʿālamīna

Quran 66:12 Wamaryama ibnata AAimrana allatee ahsanat farjaha fanafakhna feehi min roohina wasaddaqat bikalimati rabbiha wakutubihi wakanat mina alqaniteena

Sura 21:91
Wa-allati [and who] ahsanat [guarded] farjaha [vágina] fanafakhnā [so we breathed] feeha [therein] min [of] ruhina [our spirit] waja [and we] alnāhā [made her] wa-ibnahā [and her son] ayatan [a sign/verse] lil’ʿālamīna [for the world].

Sura 66:12
wamaryama[And Maryam] ib'nata[daughter of] ʿim'rāna[Imran] allatī[who] aḥṣanat[guarded] farjahā[HER VAGINA] fanafakhnā[so we BREATHED] fīhi[INTO IT] min[of] rūḥinā[OUR SPIRIT] waṣaddaqat bikalimāti rabbihā wakutubihi wakānat mina l-qānitīna

You are using the Bible to translate the Qur'an again! Anyways the Qur'anic translation is still better. What's the Arabic word for Chastity?

Luke 1-34-35
34“How can this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” 35The angel replied, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you.

Come upon= Sex/Rape
Overshadow= Sex/Rape
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by AbuTwins: 8:48am On May 27, 2020
advocatejare:


Jesus is the Son of God and this was confirmed by your Quran saying that Allah blew his spirit into Mary's vagina and got her pregnant.

Your so called Holy Quran tells us about how Allah was boasting about how he blew his spirit(Ruh] into the فَرْج vagina(faraj/farjaha- her vaginaفَرْجَهَا ) of Mariam and impregnating Mariam in that process, and at the same time, your Allah was not brave enough to accept that he was the father of Jesus after he acknowledged the fact that it was after he blew his spirit into Mariam's vagina that she got pregnant with a holy son, Jesus.

The word used in the Arabic Quran is farjaha, which is the Arabic word for "her vaginaفَرْجَهَا" but the translators were ashamed that Allah could boast about how he was sniffing his spirit into the vagina of Mariam hence they deliberately translated farjaha into chastity.

Quran 21:91 wa-allatī aḥṣanat farjahā fanafakhnā fīhā min rūḥinā wajaʿalnāhā wa-ib'nahā āyatan lil'ʿālamīna

Quran 66:12 Wamaryama ibnata AAimrana allatee ahsanat farjaha fanafakhna feehi min roohina wasaddaqat bikalimati rabbiha wakutubihi wakanat mina alqaniteena

Sura 21:91
Wa-allati [and who] ahsanat [guarded] farjaha [vágina] fanafakhnā [so we breathed] feeha [therein] min [of] ruhina [our spirit] waja [and we] alnāhā [made her] wa-ibnahā [and her son] ayatan [a sign/verse] lil’ʿālamīna [for the world].

Sura 66:12
wamaryama[And Maryam] ib'nata[daughter of] ʿim'rāna[Imran] allatī[who] aḥṣanat[guarded] farjahā[HER VAGINA] fanafakhnā[so we BREATHED] fīhi[INTO IT] min[of] rūḥinā[OUR SPIRIT] waṣaddaqat bikalimāti rabbihā wakutubihi wakānat mina l-qānitīna

How did God have a son from the Bible? Who was the wife?

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Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by advocatejare(m): 10:09am On May 27, 2020
AntiChristian:




Using this your logic we can ask:

How many people did Allaah spoke with? Moses!

How many did Allaah take as friend? Abraham!

How many did Allaah gave gifts in Paradise? Muhammad!

How many had wealth and control like no other person in the world? Solomon!

And there are many more.

Allah says "Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food." Qur'an 5:75

And in Qur'an 19:30 He (Jesus) said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet."
Before you divert, who else is referred to as holy in your Quran, mention just one person apart from Jesus. That's to tell you about the divinity of Jesus Christ
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by advocatejare(m): 12:34pm On May 27, 2020
AntiChristian:


You are using the Bible to translate the Qur'an again! Anyways the Qur'anic translation is still better. What's the Arabic word for Chastity?
There are many words for chastity in Arabic language, farjaha is not one of them:

بَتوليّة [batūliyya] means celibacy or virginity

طُهْر [ṭuhr] means purity



The word the Quran said Maryam guarded was farjaha which means ‘her cleft’ when cleft is used for a woman it means vagina because the female sex organs looks like 2 clefts/slits


Luke 1-34-35
34“How can this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” 35The angel replied, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you.

Come upon= Sex/Rape
Overshadow= Sex/Rape
I laugh at your ignorance. Holy spirit coming upon people in the Bible had nothing to do with filthiness like your Allah, it means the power of God descended upon them:

Acts 1:8
But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."

Acts 2:4
And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

Holy Spirit came upon:
Othniel (Judges 3:9-10)

Gideon (Judges 6:34)

Epitaph (Judges 11:29)

Samson (Judges 13:25; 14:6, 19; 15:14)

Samuel (1 Samuel 10:6-10; 16:13-14)

Saul (1 Samuel 19:20-23)

David (1 Samuel 23:1).

And the word translated as "overshadow" is ἐπισκιάσει (episkiasei) which means to enveloped by God's glorious presence which was not the first place such word was used in the Bible to denote the presence of God and had nothing to do with sexual intercourse like your sexual immoral god.

ἐπισκιάσει was also used in matthew 17:5
While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

Luke 9:34
While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud.

But same can't be said of your immoral god who boasted about blowing his spirit into a lady's vagina

Sura 21:91
Wa-allati [and who] ahsanat [guarded] farjaha [vágina] fanafakhnā [so we breathed] feeha [therein] min [of] ruhina [our spirit] waja [and we] alnāhā [made her] wa-ibnahā [and her son] ayatan [a sign/verse] lil’ʿālamīna [for the world].
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by AntiChristian: 1:04pm On May 27, 2020
advocatejare:

There are many words for chastity in Arabic language, farjaha is not one of them:

بَتوليّة [batūliyya] means celibacy or virginity

طُهْر [ṭuhr] means purity



The word the Quran said Maryam guarded was farjaha which means ‘her cleft’ when cleft is used for a woman it means vagina because the female sex organs looks like 2 clefts/slits


I laugh at your ignorance. Holy spirit coming upon people in the Bible had nothing to do with filthiness like your Allah, it means the power of God descended upon them:

Acts 1:8
But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."

Acts 2:4
And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

Holy Spirit came upon:
Othniel (Judges 3:9-10)

Gideon (Judges 6:34)

Epitaph (Judges 11:29)

Samson (Judges 13:25; 14:6, 19; 15:14)

Samuel (1 Samuel 10:6-10; 16:13-14)

Saul (1 Samuel 19:20-23)

David (1 Samuel 23:1).

And the word translated as "overshadow" is ἐπισκιάσει (episkiasei) which means to enveloped by God's glorious presence which was not the first place such word was used in the Bible to denote the presence of God and had nothing to do with sexual intercourse like your sexual immoral god.

ἐπισκιάσει was also used in matthew 17:5
While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

Luke 9:34
While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud.

But same can't be said of your immoral god who boasted about blowing his spirit into a lady's vagina

Sura 21:91
Wa-allati [and who] ahsanat [guarded] farjaha [vágina] fanafakhnā [so we breathed] feeha [therein] min [of] ruhina [our spirit] waja [and we] alnāhā [made her] wa-ibnahā [and her son] ayatan [a sign/verse] lil’ʿālamīna [for the world].


When the holy spirit fell on them did they get pregnant like Mary too? Think na!
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by advocatejare(m): 1:10pm On May 27, 2020
AntiChristian:


You are using the Bible to translate the Qur'an again! Anyways the Qur'anic translation is still better. What's the Arabic word for Chastity?
To further prove to you that فَرْجَهَ means vagina i will show u from your hadiths where the word was used to refer to vagina

فَرْجِهَا وَرَوَى سَعِيدٌ أَيْضًا : عَنْ عَلِيٍّ نَحْوَهُ , وَزَادَ : { وَبِهَا قَرَنٌ , فَزَوْجُهَا بِالْخِيَارِ , فَإِنْ مَسَّهَا فَلَهَا اَلْمَهْرُ بِمَا اِسْتَحَلَّ مِنْ

Sa'id (bin Mansur) also reported something similar from 'Ali (RA) and added:
"And (if) she has something like a horn (Qarn) (coming out of her vagina), her husband then has the right to divorce her or keep her. And if he had intercourse with her, she gets her dowry for the intercourse her husband has had."

Bulugh al-Maram Book 8, Hadith 1021

حَدَّثَنَا مُوسَى بْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ، حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادٌ، عَنْ أَيُّوبَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنْ بَعْضِ، أَزْوَاجِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم كَانَ إِذَا أَرَادَ مِنَ الْحَائِضِ شَيْئًا أَلْقَى عَلَى فَرْجِهَا ثَوْبً

Narrated One of the Wives of the Prophet:
Ikrimah reported on the authority of one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) saying: When the Prophet (ﷺ) wanted to do something (i.e. kissing, embracing) with (his) menstruating wife, he would put a garment on her private part.
Sunan Abi Dawud 272
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by advocatejare(m): 1:15pm On May 27, 2020
AntiChristian:



When the holy spirit fell on them did they get pregnant like Mary too? Think na!
That's the question you should actually ask yourself and you are the one who have some thinkings to do because that's to tell you that the spirit of God falling upon you or overshadowing you doesn't mean sexual intercourse, and the outcome of that encounter can present in many ways.

But your allah had to blow his spirit into maryam's vagina before she could get pregnant. Allah obviously likes vagina and sex and that is why he said brothel-like sexual orgies is what muslims will be doing in his paradise
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by advocatejare(m): 1:18pm On May 27, 2020
AbuTwins:


How did God have a son from the Bible? Who was the wife?
Go and read the Bible you will understand
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by sonmvayina(m): 1:25pm On May 27, 2020
Koboko444:
Jesus is the one that said he is the son of God not christians

What makes you think he was not lying... Did God ever say he had a son?
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by AntiChristian: 2:10pm On May 27, 2020
advocatejare:

That's the question you should actually ask yourself and you are the one who have some thinkings to do because that's to tell you that the spirit of God falling upon you or overshadowing you doesn't mean sexual intercourse, and the outcome of that encounter can present in many ways.

But your allah had to blow his spirit into maryam's vagina before she could get pregnant. Allah obviously likes vagina and sex and that is why he said brothel-like sexual orgies is what muslims will be doing in his paradise

Holy Spirit fell on a lady and she became pregnant!

Same Holy spirit fell on others but they didn't get Pregnant!

It means the first holy spirit has sexual organs right? This is a great deduction! I will have to add it to my collection. Your verses too will be saved! grin
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by sagenaija: 2:30pm On May 27, 2020
AntiChristian:

Verily, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allaah is like the example of Adam
AntiChristian if there is one thing some of have been drawing your attention to it is this: use your brain.

See the portion  of the Koran you quoted: Allah said 'Be' and Adam was. Did Allah says 'Be' to create Jesus, according to your Koran? No. So,  what is the nature of likeness between the creation of Adam and that of Jesus according to your Koran? None.

According to your Koran Adam was created from the dust and Allah said 'Be' and he was. But Jesus came through a virgin. He was not directly formed from the dust. And the Koran is claiming that the creation process is the same. Does that make sense to you?

All your following talk is just your conjecture. Done because you want to belittle Jesus.

In the process you expose your disregard for your Koran. Of course there are also contradictions in your same writeup and attestation to the fact that Islam twists your brains. If all you want to do is to discredit a person or thing you can even deny what Allah or Mohamed said.

When you keep running from one end to the other without fully seeking to UNDERSTAND the first issue, you cannot find truth.
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by AntiChristian: 2:57pm On May 27, 2020
sagenaija:

AntiChristian if there is one thing some of have been drawing your attention to it is this: use your brain.

See the portion  of the Koran you quoted: Allah said 'Be' and Adam was. Did Allah says 'Be' to create Jesus, according to your Koran? No. So,  what is the nature of likeness between the creation of Adam and that of Jesus according to your Koran? None.

According to your Koran Adam was created from the dust and Allah said 'Be' and he was. But Jesus came through a virgin. He was not directly formed from the dust. And the Koran is claiming that the creation process is the same. Does that make sense to you?

All your following talk is just your conjecture. Done because you want to belittle Jesus.

In the process you expose your disregard for your Koran. Of course there are also contradictions in your same writeup and attestation to the fact that Islam twists your brains. If all you want to do is to discredit a person or thing you can even deny what Allah or Mohamed said.

When you keep running from one end to the other without fully seeking to UNDERSTAND the first issue, you cannot find truth.

You don't even understand your Bible before quoting another Book. Everything was created with the word "Be" and it starts existing! Not even only Jesus and Adam.

Verily, His Command, when He intends a thing, is only that He says to it, "Be!" and it is! Qur'an 36:82

The same command "be" that went forth for Adam is same that went for Jesus!
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by advocatejare(m): 3:40pm On May 27, 2020
AntiChristian:


Holy Spirit fell on a lady and she became pregnant!

Same Holy spirit fell on others but they didn't get Pregnant!

It means the first holy spirit has sexual organs right? This is a great deduction! I will have to add it to my collection. Your verses too will be saved! grin
Allah was the one that mentioned the sexual organ, farjaha he was attracted to in Maryam, and Allah got her pregnant through her vagina
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by sagenaija: 3:56pm On May 27, 2020
AntiChristian:


You don't even understand your Bible before quoting another Book. Everything was created with the word "Be" and it starts existing! Not even only Jesus and Adam.

Verily, His Command, when He intends a thing, is only that He says to it, "Be!" and it is! Qur'an 36:82

The same command "be" that went forth for Adam is same that went for Jesus!
Let's put this to a rest: Show us where the bolded is in your Koran i.e. where Allah said "Be" in creating Adam and also Jesus.

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Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by AbuTwins: 9:00am On May 28, 2020
advocatejare:

Go and read the Bible you will understand

Kindly tell us if God married Mary or how Christ was born?

You are a Bible Person filled with the spirit so explain?
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by advocatejare(m): 10:24am On May 28, 2020
AbuTwins:


Kindly tell us if God married Mary or how Christ was born?

You are a Bible Person filled with the spirit so explain?
I've shown you in your own Quran how Allah sniffed Maryam's vagina and impregnated her.

You too go and read the Bible, your answer is there but if you cant, I've replied your brother the Antichrist aka Antichristian. Just scroll up you will see the reference I gave him and how I even showed him evidences from your Hadiths
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by AntiChristian: 11:49am On May 28, 2020
advocatejare:

I've shown you in your own Quran how Allah sniffed Maryam's vagina and impregnated her.

You too go and read the Bible, your answer is there but if you cant, I've replied your brother the Antichrist aka Antichristian. Just scroll up you will see the reference I gave him and how I even showed him evidences from your Hadiths

Did Allah came down to meet Maryam or it was an Angel? Na Lie go kill you bro!

The Hadiths and Qur'an you quoted carries no weight. You still need to tell us how the father born Jesus his son.
Who is the wife from the Bible?

Was there sex involved? Or it was just unicellular division?
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by AbuTwins: 12:00pm On May 28, 2020
advocatejare:

I've shown you in your own Quran how Allah sniffed Maryam's vagina and impregnated her.

You too go and read the Bible, your answer is there but if you cant, I've replied your brother the Antichrist aka Antichristian. Just scroll up you will see the reference I gave him and how I even showed him evidences from your Hadiths

We need to know the name of the Lord's wife? How did the Lord survived in the belly of his mother? We need the details in the Bible.
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by advocatejare(m): 12:03pm On May 28, 2020
AntiChristian:


Did Allah came down to meet Maryam or it was an Angel?
Using the same logic, why do you say the Quran is the word of Allah when it was a jinn that you call Jibreel that recited the Quran to Muhammad after tormenting him in the cave of Hira?

So your Quran is the word of a jinn not of God!

Na Lie go kill you bro!
May it be your portion as you have stated

The Hadiths and Qur'an you quoted carries no weight.
It won't have weight to you na. It has reported how Muhammad used to do "something" with his wives when they are menstruating after he covered their farjaha (vagina) with clothes.
And the Hadith is graded as authentic


You still need to tell us how the father born Jesus his son.
Who is the wife from the Bible?

Was there sex involved? Or it was just unicellular division?
I've shown you how Allah sniffed his spirit into Maryam's vagina and impregnated her and she gave birth to a Holy Son called Christ.

Sura 21:91
Wa-allati [and who] ahsanat [guarded] farjaha [vágina] fanafakhnā [so we breathed] feeha [therein] min [of] ruhina [our spirit] waja [and we] alnāhā [made her] wa-ibnahā [and her son] ayatan [a sign/verse] lil’ʿālamīna [for the world].

If you want to know the Biblical account, help yourself like I helped myself with the Quranic account.
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by AntiChristian: 12:05pm On May 28, 2020
sagenaija:

Let's put this to a rest: Show us where the bolded is in your Koran i.e. where Allah said "Be" in creating Adam and also Jesus.

1. Verily, His Command, when He intends a thing, is only that He says to it, "Be!" and it is! Qur'an 36:82

2. She (Mary) said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me." He said: "So (it will be) for Allah creates what He wills. When He has decreed something, He says to it only: "Be!" and it is. Qur'an 3:47
Re: Jesus Is Like Adam by advocatejare(m): 12:05pm On May 28, 2020
AbuTwins:


We need to know the name of the Lord's wife? How did the Lord survived in the belly of his mother? We need the details in the Bible.
And you want me to teach you how to read? I'm not your teacher, if you teacher didn't do his/her job well, go and collect your money back

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