LordReed:
Exodus 21
2 “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. 3 If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free.

5 “But if the servant declares, ‘I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,’ 6 then his master must take him before the judges.[a] He shall take him to the door or the doorpost and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life.

Leviticus 25
44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

It is very clear that slaves were considered property and that there was a difference between a slave that was an Israelite and one that was not.

Dantedasz:
Before they will come and LIE that it is only in the old testament, here is the new testament of the bible condoning SLAVERY.


EPHESIANS CHAPTER 6 VERSE 5.





EPHESIANS,6 VERSE 5: Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

onlyfacts:


Did you read the post above? You would have found references to the NEW TESTAMENT. go and read it.

Dantedasz:



I read where you wrote for a slave to have a master is a blessing!
How slavery can be a blessing to a slave boggles the mind!
How being exchanged for money and having no rights being a blessing to the slave is just sickening and derogatory!

Dantedasz:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_of_L%C3%BCbeck#:~:text=Jesus%20of%20L%C3%BCbeck%20was%20a


The first slave ship was named Jesus and slave traders justified slavery by quoting passages from the Christian bible!

Bacteriologist:
If verses like Exodus 21 were found in the Qur'an or any other religious book for that matter. Christians would talk down on it for as long as forever.

But look at how they dickride slavery, rape and misogyny and attempt to twist it as justifiable just because their bible supports it. Religion breeds evil.

onlyfacts:


A Christian master was not to treat his slave harshky but righteously. The summary points to their rights.

In summary,the highlight of the Bible's dealing with slaves showed it was more than fair. All slaves had a chance of being repurchased at anytime or released at the 7th year of servitude or at the jubilee year, whichever came first (majorly Hebrew slaves) . If they were injured in servitude they were to be released immediately, if they were killed in servitude by the master, the master was to be killed in return. They were also to be given a gift on their release to help them not fall back into servitude ( all slaves) .

Dantedasz:



You guys are just sickening and people like you completely disgust me.
This is why I avoid talking to Christian's because you people can justify any sick thing as long as it is written in your silly comic book.

Bacteriologist:
If verses like Exodus 21 were found in the Qur'an or any other religious book for that matter. Christians would talk down on it for as long as forever.

But look at how they dickride slavery, rape and misogyny and attempt to twist it as justifiable just because their bible supports it. Religion breeds evil.

onlyfacts:


Don't attack me, I didn't attack you. Let's focus on the topic. I have explained the concept of slavery in the Bible and it is fair. If a master killed a slave, he was guilty of death no matter his status. You should argue on how unfair it is.

Dantedasz:



I REPEAT,CHRISTIANS LIKE YOU MAKE ME SICK!
I AM NOT READY TO DISCUSS YOUR PERVERSION WITH YOU!!

onlyfacts:


As you prefer.

onlyfacts:



1. EX 21: 2 - 5. At times slaves held a position of great trust and honor in a household. Giving a slave a wife was not an obligation of his master during his servitude, it was a privilege to be given such. A hebrew slave during his servitude years was aware of the law governing receiving a wife from his master during his servitude years or bearing children from such a wife during his servitude. It was not COMPULSORY he married her but was VOLUNTARY. if he voluntarily chose to exercise this right by marrying her he had the option to leave at the end of his servitude or be a slave for life with his master.

Under the Law governing FREEMEN such still applied. If a man was not able to bear an heir until his death, his brother was to marry his widow and bear male heirs for him. The male child or heir was legally the child of the deceased brother and not the brother who impregnated his widow.—Ge 38:8; De 25:5.

2. Lev. 25: 44-46 - Yes none Hebrew slave could be owned for life and even passed on, but the LAW governing slavery did not make this a MUST, that is why words like CAN are used. It was left at the discretion of the master to decide how to handle his affairs. Other than the right to freedom for the Hebrew slave after 7 years of servitude or at the jubilee year, whichever came first - all other laws governing the privileges and treatment of slaves or servants where the same. If they were injured in servitude Hebrew or no Hebrew they were to be released immediately, if they were killed in servitude by the master, the master was to be killed in return.

LordReed:


Only applies to Hebrew slaves and not to non Hebrew slaves.

onlyfacts:


Protection of slaves were universal in the law code. no distinction is made between Hebrew and none Hebrew slave, as regards protection from harm or maltreatment under the law code -Ex. 21: 20, 32

LordReed:


Still means a non Hebrew was considered property. How many people were going to beat their slaves to death or put out their eye? What is that compared to owning a person and their offspring perpetually?

Dantedasz:



They are just sickening and disgusting they way they try to justify everything in their comic book.
This book supports slavery,murder,rape,misogyny and some many more crimes against humanity and you will see a human being turning logic upside down and trying to justify such rubbish?
People like this just make me feel sick!

onlyfacts:


Not beating a slave to cause injury or loss of life was a sign of humane treatment given to them, unlike how servants are maltreated today in some places.

Like I said the perpetual ownership of a none Hebrew slave was not a MUST, can or may are used in other translations to show this circle can be broken at any time the master decides upon it.

In most cases the slaves later became Proselyte's (A convert, that is, one who embraced Judaism, getting circumcised, if a male.) Non-Hebrew or a non-Israelite who desired to serve Jehovah according to the requirements of true worship had to become a proselyte. A proselyte was responsible to obey all of the Law, and he was to be treated by natural Jews as a BROTHER (Le 19:33, 34; 24:22; Ga 5:3) By becoming a Proselyte, the privileges given to a Hebrew slave can also be extended to them seeing that they are now BROTHERS.

Bacteriologist:


The power of indoctrination and brainwashing. Somehow they know it is wrong but they find themselves defending it. According to what they have been thought, everything god does is right and good. Even if it involves killing babies in the most cruel manner imaginable.

That's how strong the chains of religious beliefs are on the brain and minds of many people.

LordReed:


Wow. So enslave someone then when he converts to your religion he becomes free? You don't see what the problem with this is?

onlyfacts:


Not beating a slave to cause injury or loss of life was a sign of humane treatment given to them, unlike how servants are maltreated today in some places.

Like I said the perpetual ownership of a none Hebrew slave was not a MUST, can or may are used in other translations to show this circle can be broken at any time the master decides upon it.

In most cases the slaves later became Proselyte's (A convert, that is, one who embraced Judaism, getting circumcised, if a male.) Non-Hebrew or a non-Israelite who desired to serve Jehovah according to the requirements of true worship had to become a proselyte. A proselyte was responsible to obey all of the Law, and he was to be treated by natural Jews as a BROTHER (Le 19:33, 34; 24:22; Ga 5:3) By becoming a Proselyte, the privileges given to a Hebrew slave can also be extended to them seeing that they are now BROTHERS.

LordReed:


This was my path to getting out of religion, realizing that once I didn't have to defend any of it, then it could not make sense to me. The need to defend it at all cost will allow them to twist their intellect to the task. No more gymnastics for me.

onlyfacts:


The summary of the pathway to freedom for a non Hebrew slave based on what I have said can be summarised as three, which ever came first.

1. The master can break the cycle at any time and let him go
2. The master hurts him and must let him go
3. The slave becomes a proselyte and his master must grant him all the rights of a Hebrew slave which includes letting him go when due.

LordReed:


Also not only did it support slavery within the Hebrew nation, it supported slavery elsewhere because it tells them they can go and buy slaves from other nations. Where are those people going to get slaves if not to go enslave some other people. This is not a good scenario by any stretch of the imagination.

Bacteriologist:


Interesting. I also did use to reiterate the apologist "GOD is GOD" phrase. I think the point at which the mental gymnastics become unbearable is where the individual throws in the towel and actually begins to think.

Why would a loving, most benevolent god permit the slavery of any people under any circumstances at all. God asks us to love our enemies and then goes ahead to torture his forever in an eternal oven.

Indoctrination makes theists harder to see this obvious truth. But we have to try anyway.