So have been re-reading the bible all over again. I noticed That God in the old testament liked and tolerated fetish things. What prompted me to create this thread is the height of it all so far which i read in exodus 24:8. Like, that is all the fetish things idol worshippers do these days.

Am also aware this fetishness is no longer practiced again today; what changed? Why did God decided to stop? If it was he who actually decided to put an end to it; can we then say God changed?

And please dont come and tell me about the blood of jesus.

Cos at a time; God actually do eat this sacrifices(Gen 15:9-10 skip to 17)

Now we are told our praises, worships and offerings is what God eats.

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cc: OAM4j
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Cc:freshboi88

If u dont want to hear the blood of Jesus,like u wrote up there..then,the blood of Jesus is the answer..which means u already knew the answer.

pablobellins:
So have been re-reading the bible all over again. I noticed That God in the old testament liked and tolerated fetish things. What prompted me to create this thread is the height of it all so far which i read in exodus 24:8. Like, that is all the fetish things idol worshippers do these days.

Am also aware this fetishness is no longer practiced again today; what changed? Why did God decided to stop? If it was he who actually decided to put an end to it; can we then say God changed?

And please dont come and tell me about the blood of jesus.

Cos at a time; God actually do eat this sacrifices(Gen 15:9-10 skip to 17)

Now we are told our praises, worships and offerings is what God eats.

Cc: Lalasticlala
cc: mynd44
Cc:
cc: OAM4j

I will Tell u about the Blood of JESUS Christ!

But First, The GOD I know and Bible I have does not portray GOD As Fetish!

The Central Point of Salvation in the Bibleis Blood.

Because Blood represents Life.

In the Old Testament, Sacrifices of animals were used to Atone for the sins of the people.

All that was used as a symbol for What is to Come..

The ALPHA and OMEGA, the ALMIGHTY GOD Decides . I am only a mere Creature. My duty is to Follow HIM.

Today we don't need all that as THE BLOOD of JESUS CHRIST has taken care of that.

All we need to do is to Follow..

The Clay cannot ask the PORTER , What doeth thou?

We are mere clay and GOD ALMIGHTY is our Porter. All we need do is to Follow..

GOD BLESS YOU

Righteousness89 am not talking about atonement of sin here; i know all about that.

Its like you didnt read the stated passages. Pls do.

One was about moses making a covenant.

Other was about sacrifice, which God himself asked for.

pablobellins:
am not talking about atonement of sin here; i know all about that.

Its like you didnt read the stated passages. Pls do.

One was about moses making a covenant.

Other was about sacrifice, which God himself asked for.

My Brother, before you Read the Bible, Ask the owner of The Word in prayers to Give u Understanding of his Word.

Secondly, you Reading the Bible and you come Certain verse you don't understand, you either go and begin to read from the beginning of the chapter to the verse that comes below the place u don't understand. Don't just pick a verse to argue.

Now Genesis 15 that you talked about was GOD Almighty and Abramham having a discussion about GOD'S Promises to Him. Abramham brought up the challenge of childlessness. GOD Almighty made Abramham to understand that He will have a Child of his own. A Child from his bowels.
Abramham Ask GOD for a Sign that will make him know that He will have the inheritance.

All that bird, dove etc were GOD'S way to Show Him Sign.

If you Read the story Samson, Gideon. Isaiah,etc you will see similar things. As GOD had to give them a Sign that what he had said will come to Pass. HE is GOD! That's what he decides to do.

Your Second Passage, Exodus 24 was a similar stuff.

It's all about GOD'S conversation with Moses and His instructions for Aaron , his sons, the 70 elders and the children of Isreal..

What interesting thing we see there is " Whatever The LORD says, We will do"

That's it my brother! Don't just pick a verse, try to always find out what brought about this or that.

GOD BLESS U

Righteousness89:


My Brother, before you Read the Bible, Ask the owner of The Word in prayers to Give u Understanding of his Word.

Secondly, you Reading the Bible and you come Certain verse you don't understand, you either go and begin to read from the beginning of the chapter to the verse that comes below the place u don't understand. Don't just pick a verse to argue.

Now Genesis 15 that you talked about was GOD Almighty and Abramham having a discussion about GOD'S Promises to Him. Abramham brought up the challenge of childlessness. GOD Almighty made Abramham to understand that He will have a Child of his own. A Child from his bowels.
Abramham Ask GOD for a Sign that will make him know that He will have the inheritance.

All that bird, dove etc were GOD'S way to Show Him Sign.

If you Read the story Samson, Gideon. Isaiah,etc you will see similar things. As GOD had to give them a Sign that what he had said will come to Pass. HE is GOD! That's what he decides to do.

Your Second Passage, Exodus 24 was a similar stuff.

It's all about GOD'S conversation with Moses and His instructions for Aaron , his sons, the 70 elders and the children of Isreal..

What interesting thing we see there is " Whatever The LORD says, We will do"

That's it my brother! Don't just pick a verse, try to always find out what brought about this or that.

GOD BLESS U

you are putting off a defensive front here. Unlike anyother person; am not here to tackle or argue with you. There is a reason why tagged you. I want your view on the matter, not you trying to explain what i already know. You even went as far as telling me i just picked a verse, like i just opened a bible and picked a verse from diff book and decided to mk a thread on it?

Not to brag; am re reading the bible again for the nth term, just that i decided to meditate on this part this time, and am looking forward to differnt opinions and reasoning.

Thanks for your contribution, although its betrayed my expectation- which is the question of the topic

Benodic if you dont mind pls.

pablobellins:
you are putting off a defensive front here. Unlike anyother person; am not here to tackle or argue with you. There is a reason why tagged you. I want your view on the matter, not you trying to explain what i already know. You even went as far as telling me i just picked a verse, like i just opened a bible and picked a verse from diff book and decided to mk a thread on it?

Not to brag; am re reading the bible again for the nth term, just that i decided to meditate on this part this time, and am looking forward to differnt opinions and reasoning.

Thanks for your contribution, although its betrayed my expectation- which is the question of the topic

My Brother how am I defensive? I just put out the Word as it is and Admonished you on how to understand the Word of GOD . And u say It's Defensive?

That's not how yo Receive ! You have to have an open mind to learn.

I read your Summation before I decided to reply u. If I have seen your Summation as a tackle or Contention, I would not reply you..

If you follow my Summations here, you will know that I don't reply Contentions and all that!

I replied you as a brother and nothing more!

GOD Almighty is still the same !

If you read I think Galatians or thereabout you will see were JESUS said I didn't come to break the law but to fufil it!
That's exactly what HE has done!

pablobellins:
So have been re-reading the bible all over again. I noticed That God in the old testament liked and tolerated fetish things. What prompted me to create this thread is the height of it all so far which i read in exodus 24:8. Like, that is all the fetish things idol worshippers do these days.

Am also aware this fetishness is no longer practiced again today; what changed? Why did God decided to stop? If it was he who actually decided to put an end to it; can we then say God changed?

And please dont come and tell me about the blood of jesus.

Cos at a time; God actually do eat this sacrifices(Gen 15:9-10 skip to 17)

Now we are told our praises, worships and offerings is what God eats.

I know your problem

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
There is little I can do to save someone designed for destruction.

BlowYourMind:
I know your problem

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
There is little I can do to save someone designed for destruction.

I get your subtle message bro.

Thank you.

And to you Righteousness89. May the Lord never dpart from you; thank you both for your contribution and bible ref.

pablobellins:
So have been re-reading the bible all over again. I noticed That God in the old testament liked and tolerated fetish things. What prompted me to create this thread is the height of it all so far which i read in exodus 24:8. Like, that is all the fetish things idol worshippers do these days.

Am also aware this fetishness is no longer practiced again today; what changed? Why did God decided to stop? If it was He who actually decided to put an end to it; can we then say God changed?

And please dont come and tell me about the blood of jesus.

Cos at a time; God actually do eat this sacrifices (Gen 15:9-10 skip to 17)

Now we are told our praises, worships and offerings is what God eats.

"Then Moses took the blood from the basins and splattered it over the people, declaring,
“Look, this blood confirms the covenant the LORD has made with you in giving you these instructions.”"
- Exodus 24:8

Thank you for the invite. I'll respect your wish not to tell or make mention of the blood of Jesus, lmao

As per the thread's topic titled "Is God Really The Same Yday; Today And Forever More?" The answer to that is a resounding capital YES, God really is the same yesterday; today and forever more.

Affirmative, yes, God tolerated and allowed "fetish" sprinkling or splattering of blood over the Israelites

"When the sun had set and darkness had fallen, behold, a smoking firepot
and a flaming torch appeared and passed between the halves of the carcasses."
- Genesis 15:17

pablobellins, so do you have a problem with Gen 15:9-10 skip to 17 then ni, hmm?
Are you saying you are against God doing that Genesis 15:17 singularity ni?

All those "fẹfẹrẹti and/or jagbanjantis" were just shadows of the real thing. They were just temporary claw back measures, temporary stave offs, as it were.

The animals blood let offs or let outs, were permitted until the real deal comes on stage and whe that did, then automatically all those animal sacrifices had to come to an unceremoniously end.

Yes, God inhabits in our praises, worships and offerings (i.e. Psalms 22:3). In a sense of anthropomorphically speaking, praises, worships and offerings are what God eats.

In their false piety, our African people have gathered in their multitude once again to worship the idol figure of their slave masters today Sunday, just as they did last Friday. I’ve been on a very good Agbo mixed with 7up to alleviate my feverish condition, of which I needed as much sleep as possible due to my nocturnal and ever-working nature but our holier-than-thou brethren woke me the hell up with the noise from heavy metal soundings and screaming to a non-existing Jewish idol who couldn’t even save the Jews from Holocaust (no offense to the Jews) my beloved Jewish people round the world. I don’t know who is contending between them and heavy metal rock music as the noise is so deafening.

@MuttleyLaff you share the same opinion as the rest.

The truth is, you all got invited for a reason. Hv known you all through your posts and contibution on this section...

Even 'I' will hate to think that the Lord God Almighty is Changeable. I just hoped and wish one of you will think outside the box to give a different opinion.

Some has to have a diffrent opinion, atleast one person.

Lalasticlala fp.

ghostofsparta you are on a different plane... A plane i never want to come close to.

pablobellins:
ghostofsparta you are on a different plane... A plane i never want to come close to.

And what plane can that be since it appears you are plane specialist!

https://www.nairaland.com/5908880/miss-heaven-blame/7#90405448

pablobellins:
ghostofsparta you are on a different plane... A plane i never want to come close to.

What’s your write up all about ?

You are trying to make sense of a highly confusing book presented as the book of wisdom and morals!

I don’t get

Let’s discuss

pablobellins:
@MuttleyLaff you share the same opinion as the rest.

That God is the same yesterday, today and forever more intrinsically. This is irrefutable. It is not an opinion, it is absolute truth and fact

pablobellins:
The truth is, you all got invited for a reason. Hv known you all through your posts and contibution on this section...

As I said thank you for the invite, all the same

pablobellins:
Even 'I' will hate to think that the Lord God Almighty is Changeable. I just hoped and wish one of you will think outside the box to give a different opinion.

My dear friend, you are conflating method with the method Handler. The method(s) changes but the Handler doesnt.

pablobellins:
Some has to have a diffrent opinion, at least one person.

"“I am the LORD, and I do not change.
That is why you descendants of Jacob are not already destroyed."
- Malachi 3:6

What the point for having an opinion just for the sheer fun of having a different opinion, hmm? This is not a matter of opinion(s). Don't you know that opinions change in the face of truth ni? You can have your own opinions, but you can't have your own truth, lmao

pablobellins:
Lala\sticlala fp.

Please stop clamouring for fp. It's a put off, besides threads usually get there, on merits and not by forcing hands

@ pablobellins

benodic if you dont mind pls

Thanks for the invitation. I don't mind at all. I am always willing to share my little insight on God.

So for the question: Is God Really The Same Yday; Today And Forever More?

The answer is YES.

It is not God that changes but Man is the one that changes. Over the ages as we continue growing in consciousness we come to understand the true nature of God more and more.
As we continue maturing spiritually, We stop seeing God through our biased human eyes and allow God to reveal itself as It is to us. Then and only then can we come to a realization that God is love and that It loves us unconditionally and It has always been and will always be love.

The question that begs answering is: when are we going to also become like God. Ever loving unconditionally and without limitations.

I rest my case.
May the blessings be.

pablobellins:
So have been re-reading the bible all over again. I noticed That God in the old testament liked and tolerated fetish things. What prompted me to create this thread is the height of it all so far which i read in exodus 24:8. Like, that is all the fetish things idol worshippers do these days.

Am also aware this fetishness is no longer practiced again today; what changed? Why did God decided to stop? If it was he who actually decided to put an end to it; can we then say God changed?

And please dont come and tell me about the blood of jesus.

Cos at a time; God actually do eat this sacrifices(Gen 15:9-10 skip to 17)

Now we are told our praises, worships and offerings is what God eats.

Cc: Lalasticlala
cc: mynd44
Cc: Righteousness89
cc: OAM4j
cc:MuttleyLaff
Cc:Barristter07
Cc:freshboi88

You are missing it, God the same yesterday, today and tomorrow is not about fetish or blood of Jesus but it's all about God's faithfulness, and every good things he offered all those that trusted in him as well as punishment to everyone disobey his ordinance. Meanwhile his mercy endures forever

thankgod460:


You are missing it, God the same yesterday, today and tomorrow is not about fetish or blood of Jesus but it's all about God's faithfulness, and every good things he offered all those that trusted in him as well as punishment to everyone disobey his ordinance. Meanwhile his mercy endures forever

Thanks for your input bro.

MuttleyLaff:
That God is the same yesterday, today and forever more intrinsically. This is irrefutable. It is not an opinion, it is absolute truth and fact

As I said thank you for the invite, all the same

My dear friend, you are conflating method with the method Handler. The method(s) changes but the Handler doesnt.

"“I am the LORD, and I do not change.
That is why you descendants of Jacob are not already destroyed."
- Malachi 3:6

What the point for having an opinion just for the sheer fun of having a different opinion, hmm? This is not a matter of opinion(s). Don't you know that opinions change in the face of truth ni? You can have your own opinions, but you can't have your own truth, lmao

Please stop clamouring for fp. It's a put off, besides threads usually get there, on merits and not by forcing hands

Thank you once again for your input.

ghostofsparta:


What’s your write up all about ?

You are trying to make sense of a highly confusing book presented as the book of wisdom and morals!

I don’t get

Let’s discuss

lol; i will do well not to discuss this with you. It will only lead to arguments i cant win, neither can you.

benodic:
@ pablobellins



Thanks for the invitation. I don't mind at all. I am always willing to share my little insight on God.

So for the question: Is God Really The Same Yday; Today And Forever More?

The answer is YES.

It is not God that changes but Man is the one that changes. Over the ages as we continue growing in consciousness we come to understand the true nature of God more and more.
As we continue maturing spiritually, We stop seeing God through our biased human eyes and allow God to reveal itself as It is to us. Then and only then can we come to a realization that God is love and that It loves us unconditionally and It has always been and will always be love.

The question that begs answering is: when are we going to also become like God. Ever loving unconditionally and without limitations.

I rest my case.
May the blessings be.

Thank you sir. Towards your last paragraph; am guessing that a story for another day

pablobellins:
Now we are told our praises, worships and offerings is what God eats.

Did you at least spend time researching the claim to ascertain its credibility? Or are you one to swallow whatever you are told, hook, line, and sinker?

Kobojunkie:
Did you at least spend time researching the claim to ascertain its credibility? Or are you one to swallow whatever you are told, hook, line, and sinker?

If you something to say or contribute, pls do.

pablobellins:
So have been re-reading the bible all over again. I noticed That God in the old testament liked and tolerated fetish things. What prompted me to create this thread is the height of it all so far which i read in exodus 24:8. Like, that is all the fetish things idol worshippers do these days.

Am also aware this fetishness is no longer practiced again today; what changed? Why did God decided to stop? If it was he who actually decided to put an end to it; can we then say God changed?

And please dont come and tell me about the blood of jesus.

Cos at a time; God actually do eat this sacrifices(Gen 15:9-10 skip to 17)

Now we are told our praises, worships and offerings is what God eats.

Cc: Lalasticlala
cc: mynd44
Cc: Righteousness89
cc: OAM4j
cc:MuttleyLaff
Cc:Barristter07
Cc:freshboi88

Good morning Boss .

If I get you correctly you wonder why Some things done by the Israelites were stopped at our time.

My response :

Its not God that changed BUT The covenant changed .

Hebrews 8:7-13 , But I will quote verse 13 alone " In his saying A NEW COVENANT, he has made the former one obsolete. Now what is obsolete and growing old is near to vanishing away "

By vanishing away , It means we would no longer practice those things.

The first covenant was established through Moses , the second was established through Jesus.

Meanwhile , recall Hebrews 9:22

" Yes, according to the Law nearly all things are cleansed with blood, and unless blood is POURED out no forgiveness takes place "

The blood poured out for forgiveness in the first covenant is Blood of goats and rams . but in the second covenant, Jesus did it once with his own blood and save mankind from sin.

So in summary, Covenant changed because the first set of people disobeyed , God said " because they did not remain in my covenant , so I stopped caring for them " Hebrews 8:9 .

Not God that changed but the Covenant .

@ Barristter07 spot on sir

What I understand by "God the same yesterday, today and forever" is that His Nature never changes. His righteousness, holiness, judgement, etc are the same. His requirement per time may change, but His Nature does not. E.g if you are a righteous father, your requirement from your 2 year old son is different when he becomes 16 years old, which is different from when he becomes 28 etc. That doesn't mean you've changed from being a good father. May God enlighten us all in Jesus Name. Amen.

HedwigesMaduro:
What I understand by "God the same yesterday, today and forever" is that His Nature never changes. His righteousness, holiness, judgement, etc are the same. His requirement per time may change, but His Nature does not. E.g if you are a righteous father, your requirement from your 2 year old son is different when he becomes 16 years old, which is different from when he becomes 28 etc. That doesn't mean you've changed from being a good father. May God enlighten us all in Jesus Name. Amen.

As simple as it is. Thanks Man.

Barristter07:
Its not God that changed BUT The covenant changed .
Hebrews 8:7-13 , But I will quote verse 13 alone " In his saying A NEW COVENANT, he has made the former one obsolete. Now what is obsolete and growing old is near to vanishing away "
By vanishing away , It means we would no longer practice those things.
The first covenant was established through Moses , the second was established through Jesus.
Meanwhile , recall Hebrews 9:22
" Yes, according to the Law nearly all things are cleansed with blood, and unless blood is POURED out no forgiveness takes place "
The blood poured out for forgiveness in the first covenant is Blood of goats and rams . but in the second covenant, Jesus did it once with his own blood and save mankind from sin.
So in summary, Covenant changed because the first set of people disobeyed , God said " because they did not remain in my covenant , so I stopped caring for them " Hebrews 8:9 .
Not God that changed but the Covenant .

Here's a question for you: Who changed the Covenant? God or man?
See, definitely not Jesus Christ, since Jesus made it clear that He had not come to do any such thing. Nope, as far as Jesus Christ is concerned, the old Covenant remains a binding contract God has with Israel forever. Jesus instead provided His own with a New Covenant to follow, a Covenant separate from the old Covenant.

Matthew 11 vs 27-30(ERV)
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27. All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
28. Come to me, all who labor and are heavily loaded, and I will give you rest.
29. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”

In Christ, there is a new yoke to carry, albeit lighter than the old (the new yoke has about 46 commandments required of us), and an easier burden to bear(our individual lives/cross).
To this day, we know that the religion of Judaism survives and that religion is built around the following of the Old Covenant law. So, obviously, not everyone out there was convinced of Paul's argument to abandon the old, and switch over to the new Covenant that is Jesus Christ.

Go then, preach the good news about the Kingdom of Heaven. Do not lay down any rule beyond what I determined for you, nor promulgate law like the lawgiver, or else you might be dominated by it."

Kobojunkie:

Here's a question for you: Who changed the Covenant? God or man?
See, definitely not Jesus Christ, since Jesus made it clear that He had not come to do any such thing. Nope, as far as Jesus Christ is concerned, the old Covenant remains a binding contract God has with Israel forever. Jesus instead provided His own with a New Covenant to follow, a Covenant separate from the old Covenant.

In Christ, there is a new yoke to carry, albeit lighter than the old (the new yoke has about 46 commandments required of us), and an easier burden to bear(our individual lives/cross).
To this day, we know that the religion of Judaism survives and that religion is built around the following of the Old Covenant law. So, obviously, not everyone out there was convinced of Paul's argument to abandon the old, and switch over to the new Covenant that is Jesus Christ.

Go then, preach the good news about the Kingdom of Heaven. Do not lay down any rule beyond what I determined for you, nor promulgate law like the lawgiver, or else you might be dominated by it."

I like the middle paragraph.

pablobellins:
As simple as it is. Thanks Man.

Thanks be to Almighty God.