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Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by babtoundey(m): 3:18pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
TAO12: He will soon come to tell you Olokun is shining okun or red okun (after all red is sacred in Edo culture). He and gregboy think alike. awkward. 2 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by TAO12: 3:21pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
babtoundey: Hahahaha! He is the same person as gregyboy I have exposed him already. See link where I first exposed him: https://www.nairaland.com/5846948/benin-yoruba-speaking-empire/12#90427617 3 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by babtoundey(m): 3:24pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
TAO12:He must surely be. They sound and think alike. 2 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by TAO12: 3:26pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
babtoundey: See these links where I exposed him: (1) https://www.nairaland.com/5846948/benin-yoruba-speaking-empire/12#90427617 (2) https://www.nairaland.com/5846948/benin-yoruba-speaking-empire/12#90441591 Moreover, he has admitted that the name "Olokun" is absolutely absent in the Edo's tongue. 2 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by gregyboy(m): 5:18pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
babtoundey: You guys are lost trying to find your history in the past that never existed..... Tell me why i should believe yoruba own account of ownership of olokun against the scrrenshot edeyoung gave 3 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by gregyboy(m): 5:19pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
Tao11 is busy matching two different account i guess she is just one step to full time madness 2 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by babtoundey(m): 5:44pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
gregyboy: Why wouldn't you believe the account you cited? You cited it and you believe it even when it has weak and untenable backings Anyways you are asked to give the meaning of olokun, ogun, esu etc in Edo language. People here have given you accurate analysis of their meaning. Many may even volunteer to delve into giving you the Yoruba eulogy of those gods. Try and convince us in your own way. Just don't try the same tricks you played with the meaning of the word oba. Nobody will buy that nonsense. All those unagreeable terms like shinning Seki, it's red, it's shinning you used to analyse "oba" are awkwardly appalling. 4 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by Edeyoung: 6:39pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
gregyboy: They are mofos |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by Edeyoung: 6:43pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
babtoundey: TAO11 aka BabaRamota1980 I told you you will getting insult from me |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by TAO12: 6:46pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
gregyboy: No amount of damage control can remedy the damage. Forget it, you've already been exposed to the whole world as someone with bipolar disorder. gregyboy: Hahaha! To think this is coming from someone who doesn't know where the Edos/Binis originated from. You, particularly, have suggested different roots for your ancestors. Different roots/origin for the Edos such as: Nupe, Igala, Itsekiri, Udo, and even Birnin-Kebbi. Having said that, stop passing off screenshots from your Edo blogs as academic materials. Even your Edo blog screenshot (as junk as it obviously is) dared not identify "Olokun" as originating ab-initio from the Binis. Notice that all your brothers and sister whom you called upon for help did not show up. They've all actually forsaken you to continue your back and forth clown-jumping from "Edeyoung" to "gregyboy". My question to you, which you're afraid of addressing, still remains as follows: How come your supposed deity has a foreign name if it was indeed indigenously Edo? What happened to its supposed indigenous Edo name? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- TAO-Webster Dictionary for Edo Dummies --- ---------------------------------- olokun -------------------------------- noun o.lo.kun | /əʊ'ləʊku:n/ Definition : an indigenous Yoruba deity of the sea, and of wealth in general History : the worship of Olokun was introduced to some neighbouring non-Yoruba regions for example, the worship of Olokun was introduced to the Edo regions by the Itsekiri-Yoruba sub-group Etymology : Yoruba olu-okun sea lord, from olu the principal one + okun sea See Also : the alternative Yoruba name is umale-okun sea spirit, from umale primordial spirit + okun sea Synonyms noun imale-okun, umole-okun, imole-okun ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- cc: BabaRamota1980, MetaPhysical 4 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by Edeyoung: 6:49pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
TAO12: She keep quoting me, you wasting your time bro.... My scrrenshot have adressed it already all this bull talk you given is irrelevant Lol, you are so eager to debunk me bro take a chill |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by TAO12: 6:52pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
Edeyoung: It's not about you, gregyboy. It's about lies. Any where I see lies, I attack and debunk. See link below to be reminded of how I've debunked and rubbished your Edo blog screenshots. https://www.nairaland.com/5910322/olokun-worship-indigenous-benin-other/1#90453243 3 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by babtoundey(m): 6:56pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
Edeyoung:Ki ni baba n so bayii?? Aitete mole, ole n moloko. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by TAO12: 6:59pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
babtoundey: Hahaha! I swear! 4 Likes
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Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by MetaPhysical: 8:40pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
Edeyoung: If you didnt want a debunk, why did you open the thread? Bring an independent, non-edo source for this info on Olokun. ...and please hurry up! 3 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by TAO12: 2:08am On Jun 09, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: I wonder oo! In fact, he can bring Edo author(s) if he likes, but provided they are academics in the relevant field, and their works are peer-reviewed. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by scholes0(m): 8:19am On Jun 09, 2020 |
TAO12: You really are schooling these Bini boys over here. 6 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by Sammy07: 8:37am On Jun 09, 2020 |
TAO12: They should tell us What Olu means in Benin, what Okun means, some names and sentence where each of the words are used and their meanings 4 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by nisai: 10:31am On Jun 09, 2020 |
TAO12:GOOD ONE 1 Like |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by nisai: 10:35am On Jun 09, 2020 |
TAO12:Chai! 4 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by nisai: 10:37am On Jun 09, 2020 |
babtoundey:Lol. Baba awon olodo. 1 Like |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by Edeyoung: 9:51pm On Jun 09, 2020 |
nisai:
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Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by TAO12: 9:58pm On Jun 09, 2020 |
Edeyoung: Thank you gregyboy, for proving my point that the Edos/Binis truly worship Yoruba deities -- e.g. Olokun among others. Please keep more proofs coming. Thank you, thank you! cc: nisai 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by davidnazee: 3:22am On Jun 10, 2020 |
BabaRamota1980: Lilliputs talking trash again.. Edo people weren't wearing clothes till the 19th century and the same naked Edo poeple conquered and ruled your ancestors for over 500years up till the 19th century.. Was it the naked big balls of my ancestors that scared your weak ancestors?? 4 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by davidnazee: 3:24am On Jun 10, 2020 |
gregyboy: Bro no need to argue with lilliputs.. It's common knowledge that Olokun was founded in Ughoton by Oba Ewuare the great.. 1 Like |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by nisai: 5:48am On Jun 10, 2020 |
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Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by TAO12: 5:59am On Jun 10, 2020 |
davidnazee: Yet your Oba Ewuare forgot to give it an Edo name after he "founded" it. 1 Like |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by TAO12: 6:12am On Jun 10, 2020 |
davidnazee: That your Edo fore-parents (as adults) were largely raoming the streets shamelessly n@ked even in as recent as the early 1900s is a historical fact. Moreover, when we checked history for evidence of your fantasy of of conquest, we found absolutely nothing. What we found instead are contrary facts as follows: (1) That Ife had imperial dominance over your 2by2 Benin Kingdom. (2) That Ibadan, Ijesa, Owo, Otun-Ekiti, et al. all slaughtered Benin Kingdom for fun at different times. (3) That the Yoruba language was imposed on Benin Kingdom as its lingua-franca. (4) That Edos must continue to worship and adore many Yoruba gods. (5) That all Edos are slaves of the Yoruba Oba of Benin, and these Edos (aka slaves) are beheaded and crucified annually to appease Yoruba gods at Benin Kingdom. (6) That the Yorubas clothed your fore-parents' n@kedness through their manufactured products popularly known as "cloth for Benin. And many more! Historical evidence have been adduced at different times for each of these claims already. Let me know which one of them you would like to see evidence for again. Cheers! 3 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by gregyboy(m): 9:18am On Jun 10, 2020 |
The yorubas have indeed be influenced by benins Cultural wise and religious wise, it is noted benin warriors used to carry olokun along to battle, yorubas as we know is mixture of eastern Yoruba Which was directly influenced by benins and a mixture the western yorubas which was influenced by oyo, tracing thier origin to one source oduduwa was a fictional move which was first done by Samuel Johnson in a bid to unite the entire yoruba after her various wars Oduduwa existence was mere works of fiction, he was merely a god diety worship by the ife people since inception 2 Likes
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Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by gregyboy(m): 9:25am On Jun 10, 2020 |
davidnazee: They aint even ashamed to say it, our naked ancestors gave them everything they hold as culture today..... They paid tribute to our naked ancestors, lol...... The yoruba people are good at mouth making.... Even female warriors from dahomey sacked thier empire at a time..... 2 Likes |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by TAO12: 3:08pm On Jun 14, 2020 |
A deity which you have absolutely no name for in your native tongue was certainly imposed on you by others -- 100%. "Olokun" was introduced to the Edo people by your closest Yoruba neighbours -- The Itsekiris. "Olokun" [from the Yoruba words "Olu-Okun" -- "Lord of the Sea"] is a Yoruba deity with a Yoruba name. We also alternatively call it by the name: "Umale-Okun", or "Imale-Okun", or Umole-Okun, or "Imole-Okun"; meaning "Spirit of the Sea". All these are pure Yoruba words. Stop attaching screenshots from Edo blogs and fraudulently passing them off as academic materials. 1 Like |
Re: Olokun Worship is Indigenous 2 benins but some others were borrowed from yorubas by gregyboy(m): 3:21pm On Jun 14, 2020 |
TAO12: Dont embarrass yourself all articles on net admit to the fact its an indigenous worship to benins Not the imaginary itsekiri you put up there For the record the ogiemen family(king of the sea) that is ruling the itsekiri they are the true worshiper of olokun that's why they are called ogie-men
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