gregyboy:
[s]That oduduwa was just a diety peculiar to the ife people and not the entire yoruba race,and that samuel johnson happens to be the first yoruba historian who trace all yorubas ancestors to ife inother to unite them after the yoruba civil war he witnessed, and that oduduwa historically existed as a diety and not human but rather a diety worshiped by the ife people[/s]

TAO12:


[s]Eeerrm ...Mr Edeyoung, I fail to see the evidence for your 'junky' statements.

Do yourself the favour of substantiating your claim (e.g. with an attachment that supports it) -- and also reference such attachment accordingl[/s]

Cheers!

lawani:
According to Yoruba theology, any where designated as Ife is the first point of human civilization. There are two Oduduwas, the earlier one like his contemporary Imoles all landed from space, the later one came with an entourage probably from the Middle East because he mentioned Nimrod as his ancestor to Ife people who corrupted it too Lamurudu.

lawani:
According to Yoruba theology, any where designated as Ife is the first point of human civilization. There are two Oduduwas, the earlier one like his contemporary Imoles all landed from space, the later one came with an entourage probably from the Middle East because he mentioned Nimrod as his ancestor to Ife people who corrupted it too Lamurudu.

davidnazee:


Did you use a crystal ball to see this??

gregyboy:


Oduduwa existence was a work of fiction taken too serious, Oduduwa was a diety and never existed, like every mythology they believe a diety was thier source of thier creation but representing the diety as a mortal beign who came to rule was a myth taken too far

macof:

The deity in question is not peculiar to Yoruba. You find the same element of creation of the world symbolically representing founding of a great settlement or great era
So history inspires the myth


Umueri Igbos say Eri descended from the sky to create land and his children populated the world
Edo say same of Idu.
Yoruba same of Oduduwa

So when you think to attack Yoruba for such tradition don't forget to attack everyone that has the same tradition

Infact best you don't attack anyone at all because you just don't comprehend anything

gregyboy:




Nxt tine you quote me on benin-ife relationships please quote me with ths necessary evidence

macof:

LOL.
I wouldn't stress myself teaching you something as basic as Idu
You should be ashamed of yourself as a Bini who doesn't know of Idu
Before you come to online platforms to act like you are a proud edo defender, know about what you are defending

gregyboy:


Pyscho......... Best world to describe



Our oba said ekaladeran was sent to rule ife am even helping you guys out to call it a lie and that no relationship existed between the both party.....


Una come see me as bad person

For a while now nobody don argue the false account of benin-ife Oduduwa myth that's holds no weight

macof:


LOL you're not a bad person. You just don't know much

The ekaladaran story is not taken seriously by anyone outside Bini.. Almost half of Bini call it false especially the Ogiamien family
To top it all off, no traditional relic supports this narrative

So it doesn't matter if you support the oba or not

gregyboy:



And no sane author supports the Oduduwa existence or even support ancient political unification under ife or support any yoruba direct ancestory from ife


Bro

macof:

LOL Suzanne Blier, Omotosho Eluyemi just to mention two
You are still a small boy in this matter. Keep reading sha
God help you

gregyboy:



Suzanne Blier, is simply regurgitating oral history from whst she held they still note it as mythology




This one na mumu Omotosho Eluyemi abeg


Tell me the truth were is your ancestors from stop giving me that trash called ife

And no sane author supports the Oduduwa existence or even support ancient political unification under ife or support any yoruba direct ancestory from ife

macof:

This was your comment


And I gave you two scholars who have written extensively on it

Small pikin still dey do you.

gregyboy:




And i gave you my screenshot which says otherwise

macof:


You are real mumu
You said no author (I'm sure you meant scholar, cus an author can be anybody)
You said no author talks about Oduduwa's existence and the unification of Ife

I mentioned two. And you say your screenshot says otherwise
Bloody mofo, I just mentioned two scholars that talk about Oduduwa and Ife during his era

That there already renders your claim null and void
Jeez.. So dumb

gregyboy:

During which era mumu oduduwa era did they witnessed oduduwa era or they are just reporting
What they were told

Oduduwa is a myth

gregyboy:



During which era mumu oduduwa era did they witnessed oduduwa era or they are just reporting
What they were told

Oduduwa is a myth

macof:

You said no author mentions oduduwa and ife

I mentioned two

Anything else you have to say is null and void

Receive sense

TAO12:


Just as Ekeladerhan, Eweka, Ewure, et al.

Who witnessed them?

macof:


You are real mumu
You said no author (I'm sure you meant scholar, cus an author can be anybody)
You said no author talks about Oduduwa's existence and the unification of Ife

I mentioned two. And you say your screenshot says otherwise
Bloody mofo, I just mentioned two scholars that talk about Oduduwa and Ife during his era

That there already renders your claim null and void
Jeez.. So dumb

davidnazee:


I think the scholars talk more about the disintegration of Ife..

gregyboy:


Thier influence are still on ground bro/girl

gregyboy:
Oduduwa is a myth

And nothing more is adventures to benin by oromiyan is also a myth ...

TAO12:


Just like Oba Ewuare, Ekaladerhan

davidnazee:
You forgot to add mythical Ife empire.

TAO12:


Show me Ewuare before Talbot invented him to deceive your fore-parents. /s

Show me Ekaladerhan before Roth invented him to deceive your fore-parents. /s

Who witnessed them (and many other audio Obas of Benin) just like gregyboy would ask? /s

Moreover, you're correct about Ife, the Europeans brought Ife with them on their ships and dropped it in Osun State. /s

davidnazee:


Actually I think you are correct about the bold statement above..
Everything we know about Ife is what the Europeans wrote.. and they all wrote that Ife is a Myth..