Many within the APC tried to discourage Buhari from attending the NEC today, but I believe Buhari was right in doing so. In doing so Buhari used the opportunity to play neutral, Giadom is no more causing nuisance and also the NWC loyal to Oshomhole
In as much as it was Giadom that called for NEC I believe Buhari would've attend if it was Eta that called for the NEC, as someone will say, Buhari believes in first come first served.
It's a win win for both faction.
My opinion

cc proudlyngwa
fariq
senatordave1

The Tinubu camp's disillusionment with today's NEC resolutions is understandable as it has all but put paid to Jagaban's 2023 APC ticket pursuit.
The man has himself to blame for that.

I've always told my APC-supporting friends on this forum that the hope of reciprocity (from Buhari/the north) on which they hinge their entire 2023 aspiration is foolhardy.

Besides their unbridled fervour to oust GEJ at all cost, apparently the ACN bloc had no other motivation going into the merger that birthed the APC.

Despite going to the negotiation table with a much more formidable structure (ACN governors, Senators and MPs) than Buhari's CPC that had zero elected office holders, Tinubu never deemed it necessary to broker a (written) formal deal for power rotation akin to the PDP's zoning arrangement.
He senselessly collapsed his entire ACN structure and declared an unwavering support for the quest to return power to the north, while hoping that his obeisance and complete subservience to Buhari will endear him to the north in his wild-goose-chase pursuit of the presidency.

...and to compound Tinubu's woes, he has completely burnt bridges with the SS/SE who now deem his name virtually an abomination when discussing 2023 presidency...no thanks his 2015 betrayal.

Kyase:
Many within the APC tried to discourage Buhari from attending the NEC today, but I believe Buhari was right in doing so. In doing so Buhari used the opportunity to play neutral, Giadom is no more causing nuisance and also the NWC loyal to Oshomhole
In as much as it was Giadom that called for NEC I believe Buhari would've attend if it was Eta that called for the NEC, as someone will say, Buhari believes in first come first served.
It's a win win for both faction.
My opinion

cc proudlyngwa
fariq
senatordave1

buhari is not wise enough,
God could not give him wisdom like king Solomon who decided wisely by given the baby to the rightful owner instead to divide the baby as a win-win situation like buhari just did as a victory for the wrongful owner.
wrongful owner (giadom) want dissolution of nwc because he lost out.
and buhari did his wish.
that is injustice, by killing the baby(dissolving the nwc).
if king Solomon had killed the child, wouldn't that be injustice to the rightful owner.?

is wrong to throw away the bathwater with the baby.

Kyase:
Many within the APC tried to discourage Buhari from attending the NEC today, but I believe Buhari was right in doing so. In doing so Buhari used the opportunity to play neutral, Geidom is no more causing nuisance and also the NWC loyal to Oshomhole
In as much as it was Geidom that called for NEC I believe Buhari would've attend if it was Eta that called for the NEC, as someone will say, Buhari believes in first come first served.
It's a win win for both faction.
My opinion

cc proudlyngwa
fariq
senatordave1

Let's look at it this way.

Technically is Gaidom a NWC member.
Does he have the legal backing to call a NEC meeting.
Is there provision for a caretaker committee in the APC manifesto/rule book
Does Buhari have the legal backing to dissolve the NWC without a convention.

We don't eliminate illegality with illegality.

Buhari acted late and ended up complicating issues,

Jesusloveyou:
buhari is not wise enough

Really, you think so, within 2 hours Buhari successfully ended the crisis rocking the APC and you say he's not wise?

Proudlyngwa:


Let's look at it this way.

Technically is Gaidom a NWC member.
Does he have the legal backing to call a NEC meeting.
Is there provision for a caretaker committee in the APC manifesto/rule book
Does Buhari have the legal backing to dissolve the NWC without a convention.

We don't eliminate illegality with illegality.

Buhari acted late and ended up complicating issues,

I remember seeing a court declaring Giadom the authentic ag chairman, so I he had legal backing

Kyase:
Really, you think so, within 2 hours Buhari successfully ended the crisis rocking the APC and you say he's not wise?

read the reason

Jesusloveyou:
buhari is not wise enough,
God could not give him wisdom like king Solomon who decided wisely by given the baby to the rightful owner instead to divide the baby as a win-win situation like buhari just did as a victory for the wrongful owner.
wrongful owner (giadom) want dissolution of nwc because he lost out.
and buhari did his wish.
that is injustice, by killing the baby(dissolving the nwc).
if king Solomon had killed the child, wouldn't that be injustice to the rightful owner.?

is wrong to throw away the bathwater with the baby.

Kyase:
Really, you think so, within 2 hours Buhari successfully ended the crisis rocking the APC and you say he's not wise?

read the reason

Kyase:
I remember seeing a court declaring Giadom the authentic ag chairman, so I he had legal backing

giadom is not a party to the case,
he did not initiate the case, how come he is now the beneficially,
so he can not be a beneficially of what he is not a party to

Jesusloveyou:
read the reason read the reason

You no see wetin buhari see.
with Ajimobi gone(rest his soul), as some say he died long ago but was hidden from the public, if that is true, then there's wisdom to what he did, and remember Buhari is aware of Ajimobi's condition. Buhari acted based on what He knows that we dont...

Kyase:
Really, you think so, within 2 hours Buhari successfully ended the crisis rocking the APC and you say he's not wise?

No he did not , he just escalated bad blood.

Kyase:
I remember seeing a court declaring Giadom the authentic ag chairman, so I he had legal backing

It is not the duty of the court to determine who becomes a party principal but to interpreted what is brought before it based on technicalities and legalities.

Giadoms approach was fraudulent and mischievous to say the least, he had already resigned and was never reinstated back, so on what ground could he have been an acting chairman, that is when Buhari should have called him to order, but it seems like Buhari likes things to get chaotic before he will be shocked.

All events that took place up till this dissolution and will fail in a competent, unbiased court.

Jesusloveyou:
giadom did not a party to the case,
so he can not be a beneficially of what he is not a party to

story for another day

Proudlyngwa:


No he did not , he just escalated bad blood.

It is not the duty of the court to determine who becomes a party principal but to interpreted what is brought before it based on technicalities and legalities.

Giadoms approach was fraudulent and mischievous to say the least, he had already resigned and was never reinstated back, so on what ground could he have been an acting chairman, that is when Buhari should have called him to order, but it seems like Buhari likes things to get chaotic before he will be shocked.

All events that took place up till this dissolution and will fail in a competent, unbiased court.

The dissolved NWC already sue the case in court let's see how it goes, secondly I think Buhari worked with numbers, he favoured the majority he trust, people like El rufai, amaechi and fayemi, these are people Buhari trust and i believe he took that decision based on that

AntonVince:
The Tinubu camp's disillusionment with today's NEC resolutions is understandable as it has all but put paid to Jagaban's 2023 APC ticket pursuit.
The man has himself to blame for that.

I've always told my APC-supporting friends on this forum that the hope of reciprocity (from Buhari/the north) on which they hinge their entire 2023 aspiration is foolhardy.

Besides their unbridled fervour to oust GEJ at all cost, apparently the ACN bloc had no other motivation going into the merger that birthed the APC.

Despite going to the negotiation table with a more formidable structure (ACN governors, Senators and MPs) than Buhari's CPC that had zero elected office holders, Tinubu never deemed it necessary to broker a (written) formal deal for power rotation akin to the PDP's zoning arrangement.
He senselessly collapsed his entire ACN structure and declared an unwavering support for the quest to return power to the north, while hoping that his obeisance and complete subservience to Buhari will endear him to the north in his wild-goose-chase pursuit of the presidency.

...and to compound Tinubu's woes, he has completely burnt bridges with the SS/SE who now deem his name virtually an abomination when discussing 2023 presidency...no thanks his 2015 betrayal.

you are still pained, 2015 is far gone, move on.
power is going to south in 2023

Kyase:
story for another day

from another angle,

if someone come to your house and begin to drag the ownership of your house with you,
and the government will resolve for both of you to vacant the house.
is that not injustice to you?

this unlawful method of taken back chairmanship from duly elected members of nwc will affect the party,

Jesusloveyou:
from another angle,

if someone come to your house and begin to drag the ownership of your house with you,
and the government will resolve for both of you to vacant the house.

this unlawful method of taken back chairmanship from duly elected members of nwc will affect the party,

No it wont, just watch and see

Kyase:
you are still pained, 2015 is far gone, move on.
power is going to south in 2023

The bolded portion is highly unlikely.
Tinubu stands no chance at all even if he's gifted the APC ticket.

Let me know if you wish to wager on that...any amount.

Kyase:
No it wont, just watch and see

you mean it will be OK by you when someone come from nowhere and dragged your house with you.

Jesusloveyou:
you mean it will be OK by you when someone come from nowhere and dragged your house with you.

two different scenarios, Oshiomhole was removed , Ajimobi was never elected by congress , how is that his house ?

Kyase:
The dissolved NWC already sue the case in court let's see how it goes, secondly I think Buhari worked with numbers, he favoured the majority he trust, people like El rufai, amaechi and fayemi, these are people Buhari trust and i believe he took that decision based on that

You are invariably saying Buharis action and resolutions at the Nec meeting was for his personal interest, why then do you say he acted in good conscience for the good of all, which I believe is why you opened this thread?

Kyase:
The dissolved NWC already sue the case in court let's see how it goes, secondly I think Buhari worked with numbers, he favoured the majority he trust, people like El rufai, amaechi and fayemi, these are people Buhari trust and i believe he took that decision based on that

We are not talking about numbers here, we are talking about what is right and what is wrong.

Does Buhari have the power to dissolve the NWC without a convention.
Is there provision for acting chairman in the APC constitution.

Please answer this questions.

Because APC will just use litigation and kill thierselve.

Moreover if they were wise, they would have waited till after the Edo and Ondo elections to display their madness, because as far as am concerned APC will loose the two states, because tinubu will sit back and do nothing, meaning the SS will completely go to PDP.

Which will work against whoever they present on 2023

Jesusloveyou:
from another angle,

if someone come to your house and begin to drag the ownership of your house with you,
and the government will resolve for both of you to vacant the house.
is that not injustice to you?

this unlawful method of taken back chairmanship from duly elected members of nwc will affect the party,

Join us and stop hurting!

Jesusloveyou but PDP loves you most.

Pelee aburo..

Kyase:
two different scenarios, Oshiomhole was removed , Ajimobi was never elected by congress , how is that his house ?

Hmmm... following

Gandollaar:
You are invariably saying Buharis action and resolutions at the Nec meeting was for his personal interest, why then do you say he acted in good conscience for the good of all, which I believe is why you opened this thread?

what personal interest, he wont be contesting and Buhari is not a godfather kindof person, Buhari does not have any anointed candidate and he wont anoint anybody, maybe unless osibanjo, so disoving that was not for him but for the party

Kyase:
two different scenarios, Oshiomhole was removed , Ajimobi was never elected by congress , how is that his house ?

Oshiomole was removed by illegality through a court order by someone who had no business taking him to court.

Ajimobi was promoted to that position.

In all this I blame Oshiomoles lawyers, who failed to tell the court Giadom was no longer a member of the NWC and as such is application was null and void

Kyase:
what personal interest, he wont be contesting and Buhari is not a godfather kindof person, Buhari does not have any anointed candidate and he wont anoint anybody, maybe unless osibanjo, so disoving that was not for him but for the party

Once again I ask you does he have any constitutional power to dissolve them, and his action does not show him not having a favoured candidate.

He was just reading an already prepared script by people who don't even care a dime about Buhari

Tinubu and Oshiomole were ready to sacrifice morality, fair play and justice just so that they could achieve their personal ambitions. As a matter of fact, Tinubu is ready to burn this country to the ground so he can rule over the ashes. I am so disappointed in how he turned out after Buhari had trusted him with the party structures and all.
Buhari corrected that today
Giadom an his sponsors on the other hand were ready to to burn down APC if thats the only way to take down Oshiomole and Tinubu.
Buhari corrected that today
For the first time since May 2019, Buhari has acted as a leader.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is just angry that the crisis in APC has ended.

Proudlyngwa:


We are not talking about numbers here, we are talking about what is right and what is wrong.

Does Buhari have the power to dissolve the NWC without a convention.
Is there provision for acting chairman in the APC constitution.

Please answer this questions.

Because APC will just use litigation and kill thierselve.

Moreover if they were wise, they would have waited till after the Edo and Ondo elections to display their madness, because as far as am concerned APC will loose the two states, because tinubu will sit back and do nothing, meaning the SS will completely go to PDP.

Which will work against whoever they present on 2023

Was Tinubu in Jerusalem when Makinde won and APC snatched Osun by the whiskers?

Tinubu is in a big dilemma now because, going back to his regional designation is not attractive at all because most of the boys that made him very powerful are no more there.

In the recent past, Tinubu only needed to shout omoluabi and release some billions into circulation and all will start hailing the king, but not anymore. These boys are federal boys now and to worsen matters, he never recommended them for the federal jobs. These boys have to build there own dynasties too, since Asiwaju is not grooming a successor.

Tinubus best option is to hang on to APC and fight dirty and directly. If he looses, he died trying..

Kyase:
what personal interest, he wont be contesting and Buhari is not a godfather kindof person, Buhari does not have any anointed candidate and he wont anoint anybody, maybe unless osibanjo, so disoving that was not for him but for the party

You talked about his need to work with people he can trust like elrufai and Amaechi. You said he favoured the majority he could trust and they are the above guys, including fayemi.

Proudlyngwa:


Oshiomole was removed by illegality through a court order by someone who had no business taking him to court.

Ajimobi was promoted to that position.

In all this I blame Oshiomoles lawyers, who failed to tell the court Giadom was no longer a member of the NWC and as such is application was null and void

saw a letter signed by oshiomhole, agreeing that giadom can go and return whenever he wants

Kyase:
two different scenarios, Oshiomhole was removed , Ajimobi was never elected by congress , how is that his house ?

oshomole remove by obaseki faction of 5 members and buhari supported that illegal suspension.
that is just the end of APC,
because any nwc elected next 6 months will also be remove within 6months.
the fight will continue in that direction.

giadom resigned by himself to contest river state election and buhari still support giadom injustice.
giadom forged court ex part order, and he was not arrested, and buhari supported him.

buhari fall my hand, I'm highly disappointed in him for supporting injustice.

Kyase:
saw a letter signed by oshiomhole, agreeing that giadom can go and return whenever he wants

That is still part of the illegality we are talking about, does oshiomole have the authority to reinstate him or his political zone will renominate him.

APC was just running on emotions without recourse to their constitution.

Kyase:
saw a letter signed by oshiomhole, agreeing that giadom can go and return whenever he wants

and he was not ratified by NEC as ajimobi was not also ratified by NEC.

national secretary should be the next.
or Hillard Eta from the same south south.

giadom was not even a member again like ajimobi who has not be ratified by NEC.

Proudlyngwa:


That is still part of the illegality we are talking about, does oshiomole have the authority to reinstate him or his political zone will renominate him.

APC was just running on emotions without recourse to their constitution.

Kyase:
saw a letter signed by oshiomhole, agreeing that giadom can go and return whenever he wants

and he was not ratified by NEC as ajimobi was not also ratified by NEC.

national secretary should be the next.
or Hillard Eta from the same south south.

giadom was not even a member again like ajimobi who has not be ratified by NEC.