Xmuslim:
Some Muslim scholars claim that the ayah of rajm (stoning) was abrogated in the text, but it is still applicable. This is a big joke.

Let's reason together

Why would Allah or Muhammad abrogated a verse and still tell us to enforce it. What's the essence of the abrogation.

Why not abrogated verses that are no more in use such as the drinking of bear verse.

The fact remains that the prophet companions were unable to compile everything they heard from Muhammad into the Qur'an that we have today due to one reason or the other

tintingz:


I've always known this and raised this issues in the past that the Qur'an wasn't preserved as claim by Muslims. The compiled one Muslims even read today is not totally original in what Muhammad even wrote.
https://www.nairaland.com/3678762/why-alis-compilation-quran-rejected

Yasir Qadhi is popular Muslim scholar admitted and said there are holes and problems with Qur'an preservation, that any students of Qur'an knows this. He said this in an interview with Muhammad Hijab.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d225z-Yn0vk

Xmuslim:
I use to think Qur'an has been preserved word for word when I was a Muslim. The Muslim cleric knows that this is a lie but they never say it in the public.

Check these little indications that invalidate the so called Qur'an preservation

The OP seems to be a confused soul with a poor Intelligent Quotient (IQ) .
Its either you dont understand English or you are begining to portray symptoms of brain hemorrhage (BH).
(no insults intended).

Please learn the differences and meaning of the terms; "verses" and "Qur'an"
"Verses" were not promised to be preserved. The "Qur'an" was promised to be preserved and so it is.

LabuleofNigeria:




The OP seems to be a confused soul with a poor Intelligent Quotient (IQ) .
Its either you dont understand English or you are begining to portray symptoms of brain hemorrhage (BH).
(no insults intended).

Please learn the differences and meaning of the terms; "verses" and "Qur'an"
"Verses" were not promised to be preserved. The "Qur'an" was promised to be preserved and so it is.

Alennsar:

The Qur'an was revealed as a sign for the wise and those who believe. He's not a Muslim, he's confused and he is looking for people who wish to join him.
If you don't open your mind to the truth then you will never be able to accept or acknowledge the truth.

Alennsar:

The Qur'an was revealed as a sign for the wise and those who believe. He's not a Muslim, he's confused and he is looking for people who wish to join him.
If you don't open your mind to the truth then you will never be able to accept or acknowledge the truth.

Xmuslim:


You don't need to be wise to believe.
All you need is to believe that there is a giant ruthless monster in the sky that is ready to roast you in eternal fire if you don't follow a particular religion (especially the one you were born into, because it is usually the best in your eyes due to the long term indoctrination)

But You need to be wise to disbelief. Only if you are wise enough to grasp the gist in this little piece

Alennsar:

You may be right and you might not be. But do you really think you're the only one who got it figured out and the others can't?

Alennsar:


I wish you whatever you wish yourself.

Xmuslim:


I was a bit angry with you before. But not anymore. You raised a good point. Anyone can be wrong. The most important thing is to be sincere on your opinion and let it be knowledge based.

Unfortunately,

1. most religious people aren't even aware of the religion per se because they don't dive deep. Most apostates are those that were very religious; those that dive deep into the religion.

2. Most religious people are afraid of the hell fire, hence, they don't trust their brain if their brain doubt the authenticity of the religion based on the available evidence

3. Most religious people are emotionally attached to the religion because they were born into it and they have a lot to lose if the religion is proven wrong. Hence, they're emotionally attached to the religion

4. Some people cannot live without religion, because it is difficult to think that there is a possibility that one may just vanish after death without any paradise and [size=16pt]72 virgins[/size]. They won't have a reason to live if everything end aftet death.

5. Some people don't think that God (if he exist) may not judge us by religion, but by good behaviour.




I wish myself all the best and wish you same. Stay safe dear.

P. S: We didn't abandoned religion because we love hell fire or because we are tired of five daily prayers. We left because we found out that religion doesn't have strong convincing evidence. So we're innocent

k4kenny:


With your mentioning of these 72 virgins. I'm more convinced you were never truly a muslim. Real muslims never believed in that crap. The hadith has ben debunked decades ago. Only non muslims latch on to it. You deceive none but yourself.

k4kenny:


With your mentioning of these 72 virgins. I'm more convinced you were never truly a muslim. Real muslims never believed in that crap. The hadith has ben debunked decades ago. Only non muslims latch on to it. You deceive none but yourself.

Realismailakabir:
but why didnt mode block this guy? how muslims did you see posting on christian section? and i'm very sure you are not an ex-muslim you are doing all these to confuse people of their religion.

motayoayinde:

SIXTH QUOTE
WHAT MAKES THIS HADITH SO DOUBTFUL IS THE PART WHICH TALKS ABOUT BREASTFEEDING AN ADULT 10 TIMES.
NO SUCH THING EXISTS IN ISLAM.
ONLY BABIES ARE BREASTFED IN ISLAM AND THAT'S IF THEY ARE BELOW THE AGE OF 2.

looker444:
Thoughts?