Minxie:


I won't call them lazy because I don't know their circumstances.
It is unfortunate that their government uses labour from China and Lebanon and wherever because I know many Nigerians are qualified to do those jobs. They must stand up to their government and demand answers to that problem. I think it's very disgusting that there are so many high paid expats when Nigeria has it's own citizens who are qualified in those fields.

What I mean with my business idea is that I have many small businesses ideas that have the potential to develop into bigger things. Especially in the tourism industry in Nigeria but I can't just access their market like a Nigerian can save money to open a small shop in SA. So our government needs to address this imbalance by either negotiating more access to their market or closing off access to our informal sector. It's only fair because an average South African doesn't have the means to open a business in Nigeria because it isn't legally allowed. Yet an average Nigerian can open an informal business in SA. So what I'm saying is that if Africa wants to unite, they can't expect unity to only come from one side. It takes an agreement that favors all parties and not just a few.

PS before people attack me for being xenophobic, i was pointing out situations on the ground by using Nigeria and South Africa as an example.

You are right it's a free for all in SA, that's why the locals are fed up. You need to say these things coz no one is saying them in Nigeria. Even their leaders lie to them to cover their own mistakes. Their media is the worst when it comes to fake news in Africa and tell them hundreds of Nigerians were killed last year and burned alive, when just about 13 people died and most were south Africans.

YEBOmadiba:


You are right it's a free for all in SA, that's why the locals are fed up. You need to say these things coz no one is saying them in Nigeria. Even their leaders lie to them to cover their own mistakes. Their media is the worst when it comes to fake news in Africa and tell them hundreds of Nigerians were killed last year and burned alive, when just about 13 people died and most were south Africans.

Yeah the media is the worst! I'm really surprised when I read comments about how people are afraid to be killed in SA for being Nigerian. It's like they think we each walk with a gun and just shoot people at random when they "look" Nigerian. I think their government enjoys the fake news because it takes the attention away from their own screw ups. I'm also surprised at the propaganda being circulated by the government over-inflating their own achievements. And people just believe this.

Minxie:


Yeah the media is the worst! I'm really surprised when I read comments about how people are afraid to be killed in SA for being Nigerian. It's like they think we each walk with a gun and just shoot people at random when they "look" Nigerian. I think their government enjoys the fake news because it takes the attention away from their own screw ups. I'm also surprised at the propaganda beinrg circulated by the government over-inflating their own achievements. And people just believe this.

Did u hear the one that they are the ones that caused our current recession because they left after last year's attacks, and now we don't have skills and investment? They don't even feature in the top20 countries that invest in SA.

when i saw south africa stuff shit
i already knew twas ganna b #Tmk South eleebu always trying to prove nonsense

Minxie:


I won't call them lazy because I don't know their circumstances.
It is unfortunate that their government uses labour from China and Lebanon and wherever because I know many Nigerians are qualified to do those jobs. They must stand up to their government and demand answers to that problem. I think it's very disgusting that there are so many high paid expats when Nigeria has it's own citizens who are qualified in those fields.

What I mean with my business idea is that I have many small businesses ideas that have the potential to develop into bigger things. Especially in the tourism industry in Nigeria but I can't just access their market like a Nigerian can save money to open a small shop in SA. So our government needs to address this imbalance by either negotiating more access to their market or closing off access to our informal sector. It's only fair because an average South African doesn't have the means to open a business in Nigeria because it isn't legally allowed. Yet an average Nigerian can open an informal business in SA. So what I'm saying is that if Africa wants to unite, they can't expect unity to only come from one side. It takes an agreement that favors all parties and not just a few.

PS before people attack me for being xenophobic, i was pointing out situations on the ground by using Nigeria and South Africa as an example.

So....

ShopRite, MTN, DSTV, Multichoice are owned by south Africans.
You said an average south African doesn't have the means to open any business in South Africa. How did this get here then?
Any African can come to Nigeria to start up a business, although not easy, but perseverance and hardwork can make he/she successful in Nigeria.So you can start up a business here.

Minxie:


Hahaha this DA is totally incapable of understanding the coloured situation. They completely lost it.

But it's true, we could use the numbers to outnumber the white vote and maybe start something else.

Anyway, i wouldn't want African Americans to move to SA. Not because I don't like them but because I think they have every right to be in America. It drives me crazy when people suggest that African Americans should return to Africa. Like they don't belong in America. I have no problem against their investment and influence but I think they are right for standing up for themselves in America rather than moving to another place where they will most likely again struggle to be recognized. I like the fact that they aren't running away and that they are claiming what also belongs to them.

Don't the majority of coloureds vote for the DA? Just saying

YEBOmadiba:



This could actually work in your favour in the long run. They could add numbers to the coloured population and thereby give you guys more political clout. You can finally be freed from the evil clutches of Helen Zille and the DA and form your own thing

The Majority of the DAs voters are coloured

Minxie:


I always make sure to point out that I mean no harm by what I say because misunderstandings can easily arise... especially when people don't hear the tone in another person's voice people might just mistake my words to be insulting.

I think the xenophobia issue will settle once the inequality is settled in SA. As long as people compete for resources, they will always fight each other. (that's realism there...and I'm not even a realist Hahaha)

Yet, investing more in education would solve the problem. South Africans lack an understanding of the rest of Africa because we weren't taught about the rest of Africa. We assume if you come from Africa that you are competing for resources while we forget that people from other continents are also competing with us for resources. It's gonna take a massive educational intervention.

Also, i get from the forum that many Africans have little understanding of racism... African Americans can help in that regard by waking Africa up to the injustices suffered elsewhere in the world.

I agree 100%!!! Education and Job creation is the only sustainable and effective way of dealing with inequality and poverty in SA!!

Minxie:



I wish I can pack my bags and just move to Nigeria for a while but unfortunately the process is exhausting and expensive. I have many business ideas that would thrive in Lagos but the admin is just too much.

There's an easy way to do this but you must be prepared to fall in love first

I could find a strapping young bloke for you and your move to Lagos becomes stress free.

Minxie:


I can't just access their market like a Nigerian can save money to open a small shop in SA. So our government needs to address this imbalance by either negotiating more access to their market or closing off access to our informal sector. It's only fair because an average South African doesn't have the means to open a business in Nigeria because it isn't legally allowed. Yet an average Nigerian can open an informal business in SA. So what I'm saying is that if Africa wants to unite, they can't expect unity to only come from one side. It takes an agreement that favors all parties and not just a few.

PS before people attack me for being xenophobic, i was pointing out situations on the ground by using Nigeria and South Africa as an example.

You can open a business in Nigeria, pay a lawyer he'll do it for you.
You're welcome Minxie.

jln115:
Don't the majority of coloureds vote for the DA? Just saying

Actually no, they voted for the DA because of Patricia De lille and what they promised at the time. And even then it wasn't many coloureds. maybe 50%. There are too many white people outnumbering us here Lol! I doubt so many coloureds would vote for them in the next election because I hear a lot of mumbling and outright dissatisfaction about the DA. I think whoever promises to give the land back in the Western Cape will get the vote Hahaha

Dyonne:


You can open a business in Nigeria, pay a lawyer he'll do it for you.
You're welcome Minxie.

I would love to but the overall business environment isn't too friendly. I can see Nigerian businesses struggling, imagine how hard it will be for a foreign business. But I would really like to tap into Nigeria's tourism and hospitality industry though... aaaaah a girl can only dream...

jln115:
The Majority of the DAs voters are coloured

Especially since the whites moved to the FF+. But Minxie is right, the ousting of de Lille and Maimane was the undoing of the DA. Ive voted for them in 2 general elections but NO MORE - Im black. I'm waiting to see what Mashaba has in store. I'm hoping he's not a one-issue man: illegal immigration.

Minxie:


Actually no, they voted for the DA because of Patricia De lille and what they promised at the time. And even then it wasn't many coloureds. maybe 50%. There are too many white people outnumbering us here Lol! I doubt so many coloureds would vote for them in the next election because I hear a lot of mumbling and outright dissatisfaction about the DA. I think whoever promises to give the land back in the Western Cape will get the vote Hahaha

Only 17% of people in Western cape is white yet the DA got 55.5% of the vote in 2019............You do the math

FYI the DA has actually been more successful with their land redistribution policy than the ANC.........and they actual give title deeds!!

YEBOmadiba:


Especially since the whites moved to the FF+. But Minxie is right, the ousting of de Lille and Maimane was the undoing of the DA. Ive voted for them in 2 general elections but NO MORE - Im black. I'm waiting to see what Mashaba has in store. I'm hoping he's not a one-issue man: illegal immigration.

Agree 100% with what you are saying!! After the way the DA handled the De Lille saga as well as corruption allegations I also decided not to vote for the DA last year.........

And yes!!! I was/am a massive supporter of Mashaba and will definitely be voting for his party once he created one!!

jln115:

Only 17% of people in Western cape is white yet the DA got 55.5% of the vote in 2019............You do the math

FYI the DA has actually been more successful with their land redistribution policy than the ANC.........and they actual give title deeds!!

You are forgetting that not only coloureds voted for them. their black support base here was also strong. People didn't vote for them because of their color but because of what they promised and represented. However as soon as their actual agenda came to light, people realised their mistake. It's not just the land distribution... it's the gentrification in cape Town... People are very unhappy about that and it will affect the DA's position. They promised the people one thing and then turned around to do the opposite. The DAs success with land is actually one of the reasons that motivated many coloreds to vote for them. Obviously things changed...

Can't wait for the drama in the next election! yikes

jln115:
Agree 100% with what you are saying!! After the way the DA handled the De Lille saga as well as corruption allegations I also decided not to vote for the DA last year.........

And yes!!! I was/am a massive supporter of Mashaba and will definitely be voting for his party once he created one!!

many people share this sentiment about the DA

Minxie:


You are forgetting that not only coloureds voted for them. their black support base here was also strong. People didn't vote for them because of their color but because of what they promised and represented. However as soon as their actual agenda came to light, people realised their mistake. It's not just the land distribution... it's the gentrification in cape Town... People are very unhappy about that and it will affect the DA's position. They promised the people one thing and then turned around to do the opposite. T[b]he DAs success with land is actually one of the reasons that motivated many coloreds to vote for them. Obviously things changed[/b]...

Can't wait for the drama in the next election! yikes

The fact remains that the majority of DA voters are colourdes regardless of what we think of the DA!!

Bolded: the DA's land policy never changed? dont know what you mean by this statement?

Minxie:


many people share this sentiment about the DA

I only voted for the DA because I simply had no better option, not because I like the DA!!

But with Mashaba I genuinely feel excited to vote for someone I really believe in!! at least now i can vote for a party I want to, I don't have to pick the lesser devil like in previous elections.

jln115:
The fact remains that the majority of DA voters are colourdes regardless of what we think of the DA!!

No I don't deny that. I'm saying that many people have realized that the DA is "deurmekaar" and they don't have the same ideology anymore. I don't really know much because my area is more ANC than DA. And I suck at South African politics But thanks for giving me statistics I never knew the DA had such a huge coloured support base.

jln115:
I only voted for the DA because I simply had no better option, not because I like the DA!!

But with Mashaba I genuinely feel excited to vote for someone I really believe in!! at least now i can vote for a party I want to, I don't have to pick the lesser devil like in previous elections.

So true! i was thinking of playing eanie meanie miny mo at the next election Lol

Minxie:


No I don't deny that. I'm saying that many people have realized that the DA is "deurmekaar" and they don't have the same ideology anymore. I don't really know much because my area is more ANC than DA. And I suck at South African politics But thanks for giving me statistics I never knew the DA had such a huge coloured support base.

YES!! 100% correct....they don't know what they want to be!! a liberal capitalist party like they used to be or a socialist ANC lite....hence why they lost not just white voters but also Black and coloured voters who were fed up with ANC policies!!

Where are you from if I may ask?

Minxie:


So true! i was thinking of playing eanie meanie miny mo at the next election Lol

that's literally what I did last year!! except I excluded certain parties for that game though.........Cough ..........ANC..............Cough.............EFF

jln115:
YES!! 100% correct....they don't know what they want to be!! a liberal capitalist party like they used to be or a socialist ANC lite....hence why they lost not just white voters but also Black and coloured voters who were fed up with ANC policies!!

Where are you from if I may ask?

I hate this question because I've moved around so many times (only in 1 province though)... Let's just say I'm from the Boland in the Western Cape. I'm looking forward to moving again though. I'm one of those people who can't stay in one place for more than a year I don't even have a permanent place of residence lol !

where are you from?

Minxie:


I would love to but the overall business environment isn't too friendly. I can see Nigerian businesses struggling, imagine how hard it will be for a foreign business. But I would really like to tap into Nigeria's tourism and hospitality industry though... aaaaah a girl can only dream...

Well that's another thing entirely.

And we dont actually think of things as "foreign businesses" (with possible exceptions for cultural stuff like cuisine, arts and entertainment etc). Its just business, something new and different. We may know its owned by a foreigner but we dont think of it that way.

I dont think anyone thinks of mtn, dstv, shoprite as foreign (except when the chips are down ). They are part of the landscape and so would yours be.

Dyonne:


Well that's another thing entirely.

And we dont actually think of things as "foreign businesses" (with possible exceptions for cultural stuff like cuisine, arts and entertainment etc). Its just business, something new and different. We may know its owned by a foreigner but we dont think of it that way.

I dont think anyone thinks of mtn, dstv, shoprite as foreign (except when the chips are down ). They are part of the landscape and so would yours be.

definitely, im sure the people will be fine but it's just a very harsh business environment. There's also such a big difference between SA and Nigeria. without proper understanding of consumer demands and the market, my business will surely fail. I mean, if shoprite can't successfully penetrate the market, what chance do I have? lol but thanks for your interest in listening to my future business ventures

Minxie:


definitely, im sure the people will be fine but it's just a very harsh business environment. There's also such a big difference between SA and Nigeria. without proper understanding of consumer demands and the market, my business will surely fail. I mean, if shoprite can't successfully penetrate the market, what chance do I have? lol but thanks for your interest in listening to my future business ventures

Proper understanding of consumer demands...

Right! I didn't want to type too much before but when you said businesses struggle in Nigeria, I wanted to raise this point. It's very important to a business but overlooked or underestimated by many.
Also the business climate isnt as smooth as it could be but still many businesses overcome it.

Why do you think shoprite cant/hasn't fully penetrated the market? They seem to do well anywhere they set up shop.


Do you run a business in S.A?

jln115:
that's literally what I did last year!! except I excluded certain parties for that game though.........Cough ..........ANC..............Cough.............EFF

Lol . Ramaphosa saved the ANC. It was a sinking ship.

EFF definitely NOT. Even it's staunchest supporters are disgruntled about their immigration policy. But VBS is what disgusts me.

Dyonne:


Proper understanding of consumer demands...

Right! I didn't want to type too much before but when you said businesses struggle in Nigeria, I wanted to raise this point. It's very important to a business but overlooked or underestimated by many.
Also the business climate isnt as smooth as it could be but still many businesses overcome it.

Why do you think shoprite cant/hasn't fully penetrated the market? They seem to do well anywhere they set up shop.


Do you run a business in S.A?

Just based on the lack of shoprite stores in Nigeria. It has the potential to have more stores in Nigeria than South Africa according to population statistics. I think South African companies have approached Nigeria the same way they approached South Africa. They didn't get to know the people of Nigeria and assumed they are the same as South Africans. They didn't spend time with the average Nigerian to properly identify what is wanted and what is needed. They approached the rich Nigerians and forgot the poor. They completely neglected the socio economic responsibility and I think this especially would've given them proper marketing in Nigeria. Poor people see those stores as out of their reach. It's up to these companies to make the average citizen feel like they need them and want them. You can't want and need something that you feel no connection to. Like I would rather buy a gatsby from a takeout place than a gatsby at a fancy five star restaurant. I won't feel connected to the five star restaurant because it doesn't have my vibe. whereas the normal take out joint speaks to my culture and social circle.

This is obviously just my opinion...

No unfortunately I don't own a business. I'm still paying off student debt Lol but I'm here talking like I know things ! please don't take my opinions as me trying to be an expert

Minxie:


Just based on the lack of shoprite stores in Nigeria. It has the potential to have more stores in Nigeria than South Africa according to population statistics. I think South African companies have approached Nigeria the same way they approached South Africa. They didn't get to know the people of Nigeria and assumed they are the same as South Africans. They didn't spend time with the average Nigerian to properly identify what is wanted and what is needed. They approached the rich Nigerians and forgot the poor. They completely neglected the socio economic responsibility and I think this especially would've given them proper marketing in Nigeria. Poor people see those stores as out of their reach. It's up to these companies to make the average citizen feel like they need them and want them. You can't want and need something that you feel no connection to. Like I would rather buy a gatsby from a takeout place than a gatsby at a fancy five star restaurant. I won't feel connected to the five star restaurant because it doesn't have my vibe. whereas the normal take out joint speaks to my culture and social circle.

This is obviously just my opinion...

No unfortunately I don't own a business. I'm still paying off student debt Lol but I'm here talking like I know things ! please don't take my opinions as me trying to be an expert

I see what you're saying about the potential of shoprite in Nigeria and I agree with you to some extent.
I still think shoprite has done well wherever it has been able to set up and will do well if it chooses locations properly.
As to why it's not everywhere, I think some politics is at play in that regard.

I also know what you mean about the Gatsby takeout vs 5 Star restaurant. I think most people feel that way too. Not to worry, theres something for everyone. When I want to feel down to earth, I know where to go. When I want to feel like I'm doing well in life, I also know where to go

A friend once told me, "Dyon if you're eating and you dont see a single fly, be very careful about that place but if you see flies, you can relax and eat whatever you like". Its not to be taken literally but theres a meaning behind that, can you decipher it?

If you're paying off student debt, then you've graduated. Can I ask what you studied?

Minxie:


I hate this question because I've moved around so many times (only in 1 province though)... Let's just say I'm from the Boland in the Western Cape. I'm looking forward to moving again though. I'm one of those people who can't stay in one place for more than a year I don't even have a permanent place of residence lol !

where are you from?

So not to far from me currently in Mossel Bay