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The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by MandingoII(m): 10:47pm On Jan 30, 2011
Why did they do that to that kid?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu5l7a7dgP4

Respected lawyer and community leader, Kurt Haskell, has nothing to gain from pointing his finger at the federal government. He witnessed the underwear bomber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, being whisked past security and led onto NorthWest Airlines flight 253, by a well-dressed man with an American accent- all without the passenger's proper visa and passport documentation. What the news piece doesn't mention is that the State Dept did indeed put Mutallab on the plane, at the behest of "an unnamed US intelligence agency." Undersecretary Patrick F. Kennedy (Detroit news article was removed from web!).

This is why we are being groped, molested, and body scanned at the airport by the TSA! Because the government claims the underwear bomber is a real threat! Stand up America- the politicians say our rhetoric is dangerous. Maybe the government itself is terribly dangerous, 

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So what's it all about?

Follow me now, as I metaphorically wade through the vast piles of manure that constitute the raw material for the official story of the latest 'terror attack'.

The Christmas knicker bomber was not your usual disgruntled Arab or lowly Muslim acolyte. He was the son of Nigerian banking mogul and former Nigerian government minister Alhaji Umaru Mutallab, one of the richest men in Africa. We're talking one of the African colonial elite here, an African version of the British "old boy's network" While in London, his son, the knicker bomber lived in a ₤4 million apartment in Mansfield Street, in the city's West End.


'Terrorist' Mutallab (center) with his young and impressionable friendsHe also enjoyed access to visas for several different countries, including the US.

It is not surprising therefore to learn that the knicker bomber apparently received special treatment at Amsterdam airport before he boarded his flight to Detroit. Eyewitness Kurt Haskell reported that a sharply dressed Indian man escorted him to the gate and told the attendant that the knicker bomber had no passport but needed to get on the flight. The sharply dressed man was told that he would have to speak to the manager, which he apparently did and successfully got the young 'terrorist' on board.

Now this requires some serious string pulling, and all the hoopla in the press about whether or not the security system worked is just hubris, because if the knicker bomber appeared at the gate without a passport, it is unlikely that he went through the normal process up to that point, including check-in which requires passengers to show their passports. In all probability he was escorted as a VIP to the gate by the sharply dressed man. So how do two suspicious looking terrorists, at least one of them without a passport, get to the gate in an airport and then onto the flight? The answer is they don't unless they have some diplomatic credentials or high-level contacts in the airport.

Guess who runs the security at Amsterdam Schipol airport? ICTS of course! the same Israeli owned security company that somehow managed to let the shoe bomber on his Miami flight in 2001 and several of those mythical hijackers who allegedly flew out of Boston's Logan airport on 9/11. It is also useful to remember that the shoe bomber was cleared through ICTS and El Al security at Amsterdam airport on a flight to Tel Aviv in July 2001 for what was apparently an all-expenses paid week-long trip to the Israeli city. What precisely he did there remains a mystery.

All of which leads us to our second tentative conclusion:

The knicker bomber and his handler were not terrorists. Of course, it all depends on who you think the real terrorists are, 

Moving on to the bomb itself; as mentioned it was PETN, or rather Pentaerythritol, which is a building block for PETN. To make PETN, Pentaerythritol must be mixed with concentrated nitric and sulfuric acids. It is assumed that these acids were in the syringe that the knicker bomber was attempting to inject, under the cover of a blanket, into his underpants. He then attempted to ignite the newly prepared PETN with some kind of a fuse. He was apparently unaware that PETN requires a shock wave rather than heat or flame to detonate, and a shock wave is best provided by an initiator explosive. In short, the whole enterprise was doomed to failure from the beginning. Since the bomber and his smartly-dressed handler were able to get to the gate without passports, and are unlikely to have passed through security, we are left to ponder why the bomber didn't carry an explosive that required much less preparation, like a half a stick of dynamite for example. Here's a short video of what a half stick of dynamite does to a file cabinet.

Tentative conclusion number three therefore is that the goal was not to actually 'kill infidels' but rather to reinforce the concept of 'Muslim terrorism'. In fact, it seems clear at this stage that the combining of terrorism and commercial air travel is a specific tactic by the real terror masters to maximise fear. After all, it is difficult to think of a place where the average citizen already feels more vulnerable than on a metal tube hurtling through the air at 35,000 feet. Add in a wild-eyed 'terrorist' and you have the optimal psychological conditions for fear-based programming.

In this particular case however, the knicker bomber was far from wild-eyed. According to the first passenger who attempted to subdue Mutallab on the plane, he offered no resistance and was docile. He was "staring into nothing" according to Dutch 'film maker' Jasper Schuringa. Schuringa also noted that Mutallab was actually on fire but showed no reaction whatsoever. This is suggestive of someone who is in some sort of trance. Indeed, Schuringa stated this explicitly in this interview but immediately followed it with the words, "I don't want to talk about that."

How very strange.

Equally strange is Schuringa's account of how he subdued Mutallab:
as the plane neared its destination of Detroit, Michigan, he heard a pop that sounded like a firecracker going off, and someone started yelling: "Fire! Fire!"

"Around 30 seconds later the smoke started to fill up on the left side beneath this person," he said.

"I basically reacted directly. I didn't think."

He jumped over the passenger next to him and lunged over Abdulmutallab's seat, "Because I was thinking he's trying to blow up the plane, and I was trying to search his body for any explosives."

"I pulled the object from him and tried to extinguish the fire with my hands and threw it away,"

"Just to be sure I grabbed him with another attendant and we took him to first class and there we stripped him and contained him with handcuffs and we made sure he had no more weapons, no more bombs on him."

"The whole plane was screaming. The suspect, he didn't say a word."

Schuringa said other passengers applauded as he walked back to his seat.
The reactions of the other passengers seems normal. The reactions of Schuringa are reminiscent of someone who has been trained in anti-in-flight-terror tactics.




Jasper Schuringa's camera image of Mutallab as he is taken off the planeAccording to reports Schuringa was on his way to visit an 'Israeli friend', Shai Ben-Ami who owns a restaurant in Miami. The flight landed at around noon on Christmas day, and by that afternoon Ben-Ami had become Schuringa's impromptu PR manager, aggressively negotiating fees for interviews and the couple of cell phone pictures that Schuringa had taken of Mutallab as he was being taken off the plane.

Eyewitnesses on the flight also reported that after Mutallab was taken off the plane the FBI arrested another Indian-looking man in Detroit airport. The FBI has since denied that anyone else was involved.

Patricia Keepman was on the flight with her husband, daughter and two new adopted children from Ethiopia. She reported that they were sitting about 20 rows behind Mutallab. Her daughter said that ahead of them was a man who videotaped the entire flight, including the attempted detonation. "He sat up and videotaped the entire thing, very calmly," said Patricia. "We do know that the FBI is looking for him intensely. Since then, we've heard nothing about it."




Flight 253 passenger Kurt Haskell and his wifePassenger Kurt Haskell also reported that a third Indian man was arrested after the plane landed in Detroit airport. Haskell also claims that he has since been visited by the FBI in what appears to be an attempt to silence him and his report of a third man.

According to CNN, the knicker bomber's father contacted the U.S. Embassy in Nigeria recently with concerns his son was planning something, that he had become "radicalized". His pleas apparently fell on deaf ears.

Coincidentally, the Orwellian Patriot Act, passed on the back of the 9/11 attacks, is up for either renewal or trash-canning in a couple of weeks. What luck then for Obama, who is secretly very fond of such draconian powers, that the knicker bomber happened along, because there is now a very good chance that the Patriot Act will not only be enthusiastically renewed, but unanimously so.

There is no chance however that any of these troubling details will be discussed by the mainstream media, because none of them are relevant to the story that the US and Israeli governments want us to believe: Yemen is crawling with "al-Qaeda"!!
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by MandingoII(m): 10:49pm On Jan 30, 2011
[img]http://www.youtube.com/embed/gu5l7a7dgP4" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>[/img]

Fake, it was an American Set up.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by Nobody: 10:54pm On Jan 30, 2011
Not believable.

Hoax?

If this is true, Americans have gone to another low, just disgusting.

But what's the explanation for the pictures that were presented on Dec 2009?

Is this revelation going to be on CNN air too or are they going to sweep it under the carpet as usual?
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by Chyz2: 10:58pm On Jan 30, 2011
It will probably be pulled off of youtube.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by ezeagu(m): 11:11pm On Jan 30, 2011
With Boko Haram and all the terrorism in the country, they did take Nigeria off that terror list pretty quickly.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by violent(m): 11:19pm On Jan 30, 2011
This is going to be very interesting!
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by MandingoII(m): 11:23pm On Jan 30, 2011
If this is true, Americans have gone to another low, just disgusting.  

its true babe.

FEAR is the name of the game.

you noticed that the NEW body scans came out in the airports after this.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by gogo13233: 9:02am On Jan 31, 2011
Nonsense,hang the punk
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by texazzpete(m): 11:06am On Jan 31, 2011
BWAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA!!

These conspiracy theorists will never cease to entertain me with their brainless logic.

So unless you're alleging that Anwar Al-Awlaki is an American operative, how do you explain this statement credited to him:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Farouk_Abdulmutallab


Al-Awlaki released a tape in March 2010, in which he said, in part:
To the American people ,  nine years after 9/11, nine years of spending, and nine years of beefing up security you are still unsafe even in the holiest and most sacred of days to you, Christmas Day,
Our brother Umar Farouk has succeeded in breaking through the security systems that have cost the U.S. government alone over 40 billion dollars since 9/11


And when you babble about the method of detonating the PETN mixture, remember that Richard Reid, the Al-Qaeda affiliated Shoe Bomber also attempted to detonate his shoe filled with explosives with a fuse and a lighted match.


Ileke-IdI:

Not believable.

Hoax?

If this is true, Americans have gone to another low, just disgusting.

But what's the explanation for the pictures that were presented on Dec 2009?

Is this revelation going to be on CNN air too or are they going to sweep it under the carpet as usual?


With your tribalist posts and your eagerness to swallow down such crap, you're getting really disappointing these days.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by justwise(m): 11:33am On Jan 31, 2011
This is all conspiracy theory, no evidence whatsoever that USA govt planted this.

9/11 conspiracy theory is still going on, yet nobody has produced any concrete evidence to back it up.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by justwise(m): 11:34am On Jan 31, 2011
Ileke-IdI:

Not believable.

Hoax?

If this is true, Americans have gone to another low, just disgusting.

But what's the explanation for the pictures that were presented on Dec 2009?

Is this revelation going to be on CNN air too or are they going to sweep it under the carpet as usual?

Do you have any evidence to back up ur ranting? How many of u can come up with any reasonable proof that USA govt planted this?
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by Onwan: 11:43am On Jan 31, 2011
Kenya is really missing an ape
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by calaway: 11:53am On Jan 31, 2011
some topics are just utter rubbish. this is on of them.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by Onwan: 11:56am On Jan 31, 2011
calaway:

some topics are just utter rubbish. this is on of them.

In my opinion, the poster is very correct and I have always suspected the incident as an effort for their Africom and an excuse to get into Nigeria.

And by the way, you can find the missing Kenyan ape in DC
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by justwise(m): 12:02pm On Jan 31, 2011
Onwan:

In my opinion, the poster is very correct and I have always suspected the incident as an effort for their Africom and[b] an excuse to get into Nigeria[/b].

And by the way, you can find the missing Kenyan ape in DC

So how about the bomb going off in Nigeria? Was that planted by USA to get into Nigeria as well?
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by Onwan: 12:05pm On Jan 31, 2011
justwise:

So how about the bomb going off in Nigeria? Was that planted by USA to get into Nigeria as well?

So also is half the "suicide" bombings going off all over the world.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by donkarly(m): 12:09pm On Jan 31, 2011
MandingoII:

[img]http://www.youtube.com/embed/gu5l7a7dgP4" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>[/img]

Fake, it was an American Set up.
how can you reach such a conclusion?the conspiracy theory is crap.al-queda has always claimed resbonsibility going by the statements credited to them which they did not refute.all these effort to turn the world against US will not work.islamic extremists are the enemies and the fight against terrorism continues.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by justwise(m): 12:10pm On Jan 31, 2011
Onwan:

So also is half the "suicide" bombings going off all over the world.
. . . ur point is exactly?
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by Onwan: 12:14pm On Jan 31, 2011
justwise:

. . . your point is exactly?

That Im 100% in sync with the OP and the article.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by donkarly(m): 12:18pm On Jan 31, 2011
Onwan:

In my opinion, the poster is very correct and I have always suspected the incident as an effort for their Africom and an excuse to get into Nigeria.

And by the way, you can find the missing Kenyan ape in DC
this is rubbish.so US is sponsoring boko-haram and the jos crisis;planted bombs in jos and abuja just to get into nigeria?reason before you type and stop posting all this nonsense.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by Onwan: 12:20pm On Jan 31, 2011
donkarly:

this is rubbish.so US is sponsoring boko-haram and the jos crisis;planted bombs in jos and abuja just to get into nigeria?reason before you type and stop posting all this nonsense.

I guess you have your strong opinion about the whole thing.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by Guyman02: 12:38pm On Jan 31, 2011
donkarly:

this is rubbish.so US is sponsoring boko-haram and the jos crisis;planted bombs in jos and abuja just to get into nigeria?reason before you type and stop posting all this nonsense.
America is assasinating people and killing Igbo businessmen in Maiduguri just to have reason to invade Nigeria. The bomb that failed to explode in a Methodist Church in Bauchi was planted by the USA to cause religious tension in Nigeria. The killing of Muslims returning from a wedding in Jos and the killing of Christians in Dogo nahauwa was carried out by FBI.
Nonsensicle conspiracy theorem.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by LoveKing(m): 12:38pm On Jan 31, 2011
You all saying this is a conspiracy theory are under mind control.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by Onwan: 12:40pm On Jan 31, 2011
:d
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by pinkrex(m): 12:55pm On Jan 31, 2011
somepeople just comment rubish because they have the opportunity to post. Who do we trust or believe now? The theorist or the people agreeing to the theory? You can buy a part of a country but not its citizen's. He got access through the airport with connection just like our currupt politicians or stars will do anyday. Why is muttalab's own an exception, cos he had a bomb? Think before you post!!!
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by violent(m): 12:59pm On Jan 31, 2011
I can't believe that people just readily accept this as an American setup simply because "some eyewitness" crawl out of nowhere!

By implication, we are saying this rich dude who's got everything to lose decides to blow up his balls just to make the US happy? to what motive, pray tell?
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by Bawss1(m): 1:12pm On Jan 31, 2011
Yet this makes the front page!

The greatest conspiracy theorists are here on NL.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by fredoooooo: 1:22pm On Jan 31, 2011
Nothing is impossible , one thing is sure he can not do it all alone without the help of some insiders ,
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by Nobody: 1:57pm On Jan 31, 2011
With the convincing reasons as proofs this news item made, I would have believed, But then I wish it was so, But I doubt, I doubt coz of few reasons,

1. I was in d same class wt Umar (the bomber) for atleast 5years, In which I was a sit mate in about 2classes and as such, I tnk I am more than qualified to give a testmony on him or his act,

2. I realised how religious he became but neva foresaw him getting manipulated & brainwashed by the extremists,

3. I happen to meet him severally on d eve months of his departure to the unknown wch was finally revealed as Yemen,

From these, It was easy to accept the possibilities of his acts been possible though unimaginable, In as much as I wish it neva happened (like everyone of you would have for someone you knew personnally, Even though some are clamouring for his head coz it deters the ease of getting the US visa which is 'a heaven pass' to some of the 'complainants') but it has and on Umar Faruq it was an act or perhaps stunt gone too far,

So back to the conspiracy theory, I must refute the allegation but on a closer look, Who gets the kinda pass he got to the US of all contries, Surely there are questions that need answers,
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by Nobody: 1:59pm On Jan 31, 2011
With the convincing reasons as proofs this news item made, I would have believed, But then I wish it was so, But I doubt, I doubt coz of few reasons,

1. I was in d same class wt Umar (the bomber) for atleast 5years, In which I was a sit mate in about 2classes and as such, I tnk I am more than qualified to give a testmony on him or his act,

2. I realised how religious he became but neva foresaw him getting manipulated & brainwashed by the extremists,

3. I happen to meet him severally on d eve months of his departure to the unknown wch was finally revealed as Yemen,

From these, It was easy to accept the possibilities of his acts been possible though unimaginable, In as much as I wish it neva happened (like everyone of you would have for someone you knew personnally, Even though some are clamouring for his head coz it deters the ease of getting the US visa which is 'a heaven pass' to some of the 'complainants') but it has and on Umar Faruq it was an act or perhaps stunt gone too far,

So back to the conspiracy theory, I must refute the allegation but on a closer look, Who gets the kinda pass he got to the US of all contries, Surely there are questions that need answers,
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by bidemi12(m): 2:04pm On Jan 31, 2011
lets look at it in clear perspective, ok. there are some things you dont just do in an airport in the US or worse still on a plane. did you know that to utter the word BOMB within earshot of a security agent in an airport is a serious crime or be found with a certain quantity of any liquid content even if is tootpaste? this is not nigeria you know. and you cant claim that you did not know cause if there is one thing you cant fault america with is the dissemination of information. everybody knows this so if you are caught on a plane/airport violating any of this rules you are instantly apprehended as a terrorist and appropriate precautions are taken. to make matters worse he had a lighter on him. AN INFLAMMABLE CONDUIT.
Re: The Underwear Bomber Is A Hoax! by nrdgeek: 4:04pm On Jan 31, 2011
violent:

I can't believe that people just readily accept this as an American setup simply because "some eyewitness" crawl out of nowhere!

By implication, we are saying this rich dude who's got everything to lose decides to blow up his balls just to make the US happy? to what motive, pray tell?

Well, it might be easier for you to believe if you get to know a thing or two about a thing or two.

To quote the OP, he says when Mutallab was subdued, he 'offered no resistance and was docile.' The dude was apparently 'staring into nothing' while his balls were on fire! Now, who in his right mind does that? Add that to the fact that, as it is claimed, the dude got on the flight 'without a passport'; eye witnesses reporting that a man actually stood up and 'videotaped the entire thing, very calmly' and the dude's insistence on defending himself, then you probably might get the tingling sensation of a set up.

Ever heard of Project Monarch? or Project MKUltra? if you have, then you'd probably understand what is called 'mind control' and why Mutallab was 'staring into nothing'.

'Trauma based mind control' is real and has been admitted by US govt. agencies through declassified US govt. documents (just google 'Project Monarch' or 'Project MKultra' , voila! welcome to Alice's rabbit hole.)

When you begin to understand the evils and capabilities of mind control, then you'd probably realise movies like the Bourne Trilogy (Bourne Identity, Bourne Ultimatum and Bourne Supremacy) and 'Shutter Island' are actually depictions of reality.

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