ZINIBANKS:

So you didn't read where I said and many more you don't know it I'll explain there are many but I mentioned few of them ok

You can't speak on what goes on in a black celebrity life and expect all black American men to have the same wants and desire as them. We are different and the majority of us love our black American women and are with black American women.

Terryishere:


I'm American, what do you think?

it's complicated. Can I please send you a mail?

How will a black america woman get married? They have this ghetto mentality, most of them don't look feminine in character which is a turn off to most guys, 80pecent of blacks at age 18 -22 are already single mothers out of wedlock tell me any sensible man that want that baggage. 70 percent of black American woman lives on government welfare and alimony, black america women sees marriage as business hence they get into marriage after a year they ask for divorce, hence free access to there partner wealth, opportunity to child support and so on... In summary most of them are full of baggage, black america women don't like a nice guy, rather they prefer the drug dealer, the gang leader and so on.... I won't blame them totally, its a cultural problem that as a whole black Americans both sexes have a part to play... It is only in the black community when you graduate from college nothing happens, but when you just get out of jail your friends and family will throw a welcome party for you.....

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EbenezerTriumph:
it's complicated. Can I please send you a mail?

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Blackmoran:
How will a black america woman get married? They have this ghetto mentality, most of them don't look feminine in character which is a turn off to most guys, 80pecent of blacks at age 18 -22 are already single mothers out of wedlock tell me any sensible man that want that baggage. 70 percent of black American woman lives on government welfare and alimony, black america women sees marriage as business hence they get into marriage after a year they ask for divorce, hence free access to there partner wealth, opportunity to child support and so on... In summary most of them are full of baggage, black america women don't like a nice guy, rather they prefer the drug dealer, the gang leader and so on.... I won't blame them totally, its a cultural problem that as a whole black Americans both sexes have a part to play... It is only in the black community when you graduate from college nothing happens, but when you just get out of jail your friends and family will throw a welcome party for you.....

You watch too many Hollywood movies, and by the way, your name fits you perfectly.

Terryishere:


You watch too many Hollywood movies, and by the way, your name fits you perfectly.

this is not about Hollywood, go and check the statistics and make your research.. 1 which race has the highest single mothers... 2 which race depends on government welfare most... 3 which race has the highest divorce rate... When you done get back to me...

Blackmoran:
this is not about Hollywood, go and check the statistics and make your research.. 1 which race has the highest single mothers... 2 which race depends on government welfare most... 3 which race has the highest divorce rate... When you done get back to me...

You check the research, everyone here in the US knows there are more whites on the welfare system than anyone, they are also the ones who manipulate the welfare system with multiple cases/accounts to receive multiple welfare checks.

Whites also have the highest amount of divorces followed by interracial marriages.

Yes there are a lot of single black mothers but other races aren't exempt from single motherhood. You do realize that Nigerians are black and they fit in the black category as well don't you.

ZINIBANKS:

If you don't mind sharing your experience so others can learn from it

I sure will try

You're probably unaware that around 75% of black American homes are headed by a single woman.

The implication of that is that the person responsible for so many "bad" Black men is the black American woman herself who did such a bad job of raising her sons


Also if the men are as bad as the radical black feminists claim they should look deeper into why they are complete failures at bringing up decent men.

baralatie:

and the black American men who fall short in school attendance compared to black American women choose not to buy 1000000 copies @ $6 to distribute for their women to be liberated

I once saw a synopsis of the Bible that went thus.

A book of fairytales written by Jews.

Thankfully I wasn't you who makes reading decisions based on the synopsis alone.

I'm a bit more intelligent than that

CanadaOrBust:


The synopsis of the book is right there for u to read but u refuse to read it.

There's a word that describes such behaviour but I won't mention it.

Maybe BAW(Black American Women) don’t want to give $6 to a person whose thesis summary is so flawed

VULCAN:
I once saw a synopsis of the Bible that went thus.

A book of fairytales written by Jews.

Thankfully I wasn't you who makes reading decisions based on the synopsis alone.

I'm a bit more intelligent than that

That is only one short sentence. The synopsis here contains two full paragraphs for a vastly shorter book.

Thankfully I wasn’t you who can’t tell the difference.

I'm a bit more intelligent than that

Terryishere:


So you say with your proof being Xvideos yet you still haven't answered my question.

How do you know they are black Americans and not Africans, Caribbeans, or Hispanics?

I have. I posted “Accent”

Terryishere:


You can't tell by their accent in a country as diverse as the US. They could be children of immigrants who were born and raised here and they would have an American accent.

Try again.

Almost all Americans are children/ descendants of immigrants. Any woman born and raised in US is a BAW regardless of forefathers’ immigration status. Obama is fully a BAM despite having an immigrant father

Terryishere:


You are lying, what do you know about what black American men feel and think. You don't know anything about us.

Are you a black American man or woman?

Terryishere:


That's absolutely false and the lie was started by CNN. A correct study was done and proven that most successful, educated black American men(not Nigerian American men, that's quite a different story) are married to successful, educated black American women.

The problem with people like you is you are unable to separate the celebrities from the general public. Actually most Black American celebrities are married to other blacks as well.

Read my post carefully. “PROPORTIONATELY” means “COMPARED TO OTHER GROUPS”

You now understand?

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

I must confess I enjoy how you keep using my own words. Please don't stop.

As for the book. There are two reasons for reading. Entertainment or Knowledge. If I have a problem that has defied all solutions then I keep searching till I find what I'm looking for.

What I don't do is knock someone's attempt to proffer a solution (without even studying it) just because it doesn't fit with my politics.

I am a Christian who has learnt much from Buddhism

I am a Republican who was once a Democrat.

I am Black but flow much better with Whites.

Radical Feminists, Islamists and Gay Rights advocates are the most closed minded people you will find anywhere. That's why they are always fighting something or someone. No Love.

Also I take back my earlier statement.

Most Black American Women are too self righteous to accept their role in the decimation of the Black Family so they won't buy the book not because they don't have $6 but because they don't seek solutions in books.

They get all the sage advice they need at the hair salon.

CanadaOrBust:


That is only one short sentence. The synopsis here contains two full paragraphs for a vastly shorter book.

Thankfully I wasn’t you who can’t tell the difference.

I'm a bit more intelligent than that

chigoizie7:



Please can you tell me why other races would not want to marry an AA woman but will always rush AA man?

It's because of the way the media and society portrays the black woman as a sassy, loudmouthed, too much makeup, drama queen, angry individual.

CanadaOrBust:


I didn’t see this. Very erudite write-up and I find myself aggreeing to almost all your points. Except, how do I explain that some periods in the past it was not like this - most married and had stable families.
Lalasticlala, another good front page material

The welfare and justice system reforms after the civil rights era destroyed the black family unit with their policies.

VULCAN:
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

I must confess I enjoy how you keep using my own words. Please don't stop.

As for the book. There are two reasons for reading. Entertainment or Knowledge. If I have a problem that has defied all solutions then I keep searching till I find what I'm looking for.

What I don't do is knock someone's attempt to proffer a solution (without even studying it) just because it doesn't fit with my politics.

I am a Christian who has learnt much from Buddhism

I am a Republican who was once a Democrat.

I am Black but flow much better with Whites.

Radical Feminists, Islamists and Gay Rights advocates are the most closed minded people you will find anywhere. That's why they are always fighting something or someone. No Love.

Also I take back my earlier statement.

Most Black American Women are too self righteous to accept their role in the decimation of the Black Family so they won't buy the book not because they don't have $6 but because they don't seek solutions in books.

They get all the sage advice they need at the hair salon.

Frankly I use you own words out of laziness - it is much easier, just copy and paste

I think u may be overestimating us here on NL. We are not about to ever read that book nor are we even interested in the book; honestly, we are not even interested in the synopsis. We are only interested in the 70% figure and proffering our own reasons why we think it is so

pDudd:


The welfare and justice system reforms after the civil rights era destroyed the black family unit with their policies.

So then all those slavery stuff is hogwash

CanadaOrBust:


So then all those slavery stuff is hogwash

No it's not.

Black people were still pulling themselves up from the period between end of slavery and civil rights era. They seemed to be doing quite well on all fronts and the racist white govt became jealous. They decided to make policies that will destroy the black family unit. And they did.

pDudd:


No it's not.

Black people were still pulling themselves up from the period between end of slavery and civil rights era. They seemed to be doing quite well on all fronts and the racist white govt became jealous. They decided to make policies that will destroy the black family unit. And they did.

So u r agreeing with me - today’s situation cannot be blamed on slavery because they already overcame the effects of slavery as evidenced by period of family stability after slavery

CanadaOrBust:


So u r agreeing with me - today’s situation cannot be blamed on slavery because they already overcame the effects of slavery as evidenced by period of family stability after slavery

African Americans will never overcome the effects of slavery because it is the only history they know. You can't erase that history. Also the American system was built upon slavery, hence the effects of slavery will always be felt.

Heck, there is the option of filling your race and ethnicity on every form filled in US. Does that look like a system that is trying to get rid of racism?

But why is it that, unlike other minorities, most baby mamas are AA? It's not scarcity of black men, it's that the black women don't want marriage for reasons like
- the govt welfare mentioned above
- the bad advice from their mothers
- obsession with scholastic achievement

Compare with Hispanic and Asians. They maintain a close-knit family structure. How can BAW value marriage when aunties and cousins don't have stable relationships?

I almost believed your bolded below but I know better

I really don't care whether you or the other women knocking the book read it or not. You guys may be right. It might be trash but refusing to confirm the thinking behind the writers viewpoint is a sign of mental laziness

I do care however about anyone who knocks a thing without even checking it out.

You rarely get incisive insights from such people. They tend to specialise in repeating what they were told. Rarely do they display Critical Thinking since they surround themselves with Confirmation Bias.

Charlie Munger said “You must force yourself to consider opposing arguments. Especially when they challenge your best loved ideas.”


That's just too much to expect from angry Black Women

CanadaOrBust:


Frankly I use you own words out of laziness - it is much easier, just copy and paste

I think u may be overestimating us here on NL. We are not about to ever read that book nor are we even interested in the book; honestly, we are not even interested in the synopsis. We are only interested in the 70% figure and proffering our own reasons why we think it is so

pDudd:


African Americans will never overcome the effects of slavery because it is the only history they know. You can't erase that history. Also the American system was built upon slavery, hence the effects of slavery will always be felt.

Heck, there is the option of filling your race and ethnicity on every form filled in US. Does that look like a system that is trying to get rid of racism?

We are talking of the particular aspect of single-hood of BAW, u admitted it was not like that b4. Did the effects of slavery take a break?

VULCAN:
I almost believed your bolded below but I know better

I really don't care whether you or the other women knocking the book read it or not. You guys may be right. It might be trash but refusing to confirm the thinking behind the writers viewpoint is a sign of mental laziness

I do care however about anyone who knocks a thing without even checking it out.

You rarely get incisive insights from such people. They tend to specialise in repeating what they were told. Rarely do they display Critical Thinking since they surround themselves with Confirmation Bias.

Charlie Munger said “You must force yourself to consider opposing arguments. Especially when they challenge your best loved ideas.”


That's just too much to expect from angry Black Women

All that is too much work. I think u r confusing NL for some scholarly forum

CanadaOrBust:


We are talking of the particular aspect of single-hood of BAW, u admitted it was not like that b4. Did the effects of slavery take a break?

You are trying to apply hard and fast rules to the problems of African Americans and their women. Sorry bro, there are no hard and fast rules when it comes to their situation. You can't blame it on a single factor (slavery). It is a collection of numerous factors.

Though slavery plays a significant part of the problem, when it "ended", it morphed into other insidious forms such as segregation, zoning, discrimination, etc. So even today, many of those evil forms still exists. So it may be safe to say slavery never really ended per se.

pDudd:


It's because of the way the media and society portrays the black woman as a sassy, loudmouthed, too much makeup, drama queen, angry individual.

I do not think that it is the media portrayals. It is the fact.

All those said about them are the truth. Even an AA man wouldn’t want to marry an AA woman.


But the thing that baffles me is that girls living in African soil especially Nigerian women are doing everything possible to emulate the AA woman in all aspect except their intelligence.

chigoizie7:


I do not think that it is the media portrayals. It is the fact.

All those said about them are the truth. Even an AA man wouldn’t want to marry an AA woman.


But the thing that baffles me is that girls living in African soil especially Nigerian women are doing everything possible to emulate the AA woman in all aspect except their intelligence.

Even if they are that way (many actually are), the media portrayal is excessive. In every movie that has an AA women, they are portrayed as loud and sassy. So you watch these movies and believe that ALL of them are that way which isn't always true.

Terryishere:


You know this is untrue, the number 1 filers for divorce are whites. They don't try to hold the family together that's why there are so many stepfathers and stepmothers amongst them. Nobody receives more spousal and child support than the American white woman.

Yes, they know the importance of families.

They divorce and get married almost immediately because they so much believe in family.

It doesn’t matter who gave birth to a child. What a child.needs is a father and mother to be there at all times. Step fathers ooh, step mothers ooh, the bottom line is that they have them in their lives to guide them all through.

But our AA women gets divorced and end up being single parents.

pDudd:


Even if they are that way (many actually are), the media portrayal is excessive. In every movie that has an AA women, they are portrayed as loud and sassy. So you watch these movies and believe that ALL of them are that way which isn't always true.

It is not about watching movies. I have firsthand experience.