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Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by sosisi(f): 2:22am On May 28, 2009 |
olrotimi: if it had been me saying this,arnold1 would have killed himself, thank God it's coming from Rotimi |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by TPS360: 4:45pm On Apr 01, 2010 |
depends on the kind of tribal marks, hey ogidi, i dey irving texas too, what part you dey? |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by ayettymama(f): 5:45am On Apr 02, 2010 |
well it was fashionable once a bit like how people like piercings and tatoos nowadays young ladies will put lil 'pele' mark on temselves and theres some related to vodoo so i guess it depends |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by ailynfil: 2:13pm On May 19, 2010 |
Every country has its own culture and traditions that until now still being practiced and preserved. It can only be understood, considered or appreciated when we open our minds to learn it. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by NijoRah: 5:41pm On Jun 20, 2010 |
When i finish my research paper on the topic i will post them here. I am from Lagos, from a royal family of White Caps - Aromere, i will say that after spending over 20 years in Nigeria and 13yrs in America, Germany, Korea, Japan, and also Afghanistan as a college student, and a professional in the field of Communications, Media, and Anthropology. I observed that some people confuse COLONIZATION with MODERNIZATION. Some African Americans in the USA have returned to Africa to wear the marks, it is a mark of pride, a way of life, if worn it signifies originality and a representation of a people who have a culture long before the BC era. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by AloyEmeka5: 6:25pm On Oct 03, 2010 |
NijoRah: Where are your findings or are you still doing your research? |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by abc6822: 5:07pm On Feb 23, 2011 |
NijoRah: Aloy+Emeka, your post reads like an ostentatious C.V (especially the "royal family of white caps", brilliant!). Be honest, you're trying to apply for a job with that blurb, aren't you? And college in Afghanistan!?!? Wow! No wonder you're out of work Looking forward to your "research paper" along with any other homework you wish to share. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by ifele(m): 1:27am On Feb 28, 2011 |
Tribal marks are barbaric and tortous. Scarification should be stopped it hurts chidren. Yoruba people wake up scarring your children for life is bad. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by aribisala0(m): 2:22pm On Apr 04, 2011 |
old thread but still relevant. i wonder whether the originator wanted to learn or to throw the cat among the pigeons. well he can start by checking up the real meaning of the word mutiny. the issue is an anthropological one ; these marks in various forms are found all over nigeria. they are quite common in northern nigeria among the igalas,kanuris and many others e.g mamman vatsa,abacha and tafawa balewa. for those interested in yoruba history there are different accounts of the origins of these marks but they seem to serve the purpose of identifying an ingroup from an out group i.e. identify your enemies. useful during the slave trade and other tribal wars across what is now called yorubaland. it is noteworthy that at these times few people called themselves yoruba but would identify themselves as ijebu,ekiti,egba,ondo ,anago,awori. etc. this yoruba identity is new and for some ,notably ijebus, not totally acceptable. those marks which appear to cause the most uproar are more common in northern yoruba land which borders northern nigeria and had a long history of military conflict with the fulanis. i have seen similar marks among many northerners perhaps that played a role in their evolution. awolowo and abiola e.g did not have those marks. today fewer people have them but there are still some hotspots. hopefully the practice will die out because it is no longer useful not because it is bad or evil in my opinion. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by PhysicsMHD(m): 5:28pm On Apr 04, 2011 |
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Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by PhysicsMHD(m): 5:31pm On Apr 04, 2011 |
These particular kind of marks might have something to do with imitating the appearance of certain animals that were held in high esteem: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-582176.192.html#msg7956336 |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by aribisala0(m): 5:47pm On Apr 04, 2011 |
there are all kinds of explanations which without any written documentation are speculative just like speculating on the purpose of circumcision male/female in africans . we did not have any covenant with jehovah regarding the ife mask i think that is a red herring. ife people do not have marks like that and there is no evidence to show it depicts a human being and not a deity or some kind of make-up |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by PhysicsMHD(m): 6:04pm On Apr 04, 2011 |
aribisala0: With regard to circumcision, I think you could actually find out the purpose of the circumcision just by asking people/elders of the particular African societies where it was practiced. I personally think it's also aesthetic, but claiming that the marks distinguish a person as being from a certain group does seem more plausible. . . |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by aribisala0(m): 6:45pm On Apr 04, 2011 |
my view regarding the tribal marks is the explanation you propose is one of a menu of several others. just for clarification[b] i do not believe that it was for the purpose of distinction [/b] from others i just mentioned it because it happened to be the first on a list which includes your suggestion and several others. i did not mean to say that was definitely the reason and hope i did not give that impression. only that it has been put forward as an explanation and it is a matter of preference which one anyone chooses to believe. i take the view that we will probably never know. regarding getting information from elders as a reliable source of history e.g circumcision. hmm. i know from personal experience that many elders have very dodgy memories when it comes to remembering land boundaries of their families or communities. i rather suspect that the reason,if any for such a key ritual would be widely known with unanimity among the yorubas if there was one. ihave never heard any which is quite odd. well one day i will be an elder and i don't know now i am not sure i will then. i will probably be a source of misinformation whatever i say will be my opinion. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by PhysicsMHD(m): 7:10pm On Apr 04, 2011 |
aribisala0: @ the part in bold lol, you're probably right, but I'm sure there were some societies where they knew/know why they practiced much of what they did, so not everything will just be an opinion. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by aribisala0(m): 8:08pm On Apr 04, 2011 |
some people talk about barbarism that may be so. but these things happen across all cultures and then die out e.g there are the chinese customs of feet binding and teeth darkening which i suggest people should know about. these days women put balloons in their chests and botox in their mouths i hear one died trying to pump up her nyansh . men, too, are reworking their equipment into vaginas.all of that is sanctioned by contemporary medicine. so let us not judge in haste personally,i would rather have 4x4 on my face than trade ronaldo in for a vagina |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by aribisala0(m): 8:12pm On Apr 04, 2011 |
this nairaland editor is funny which one is womanliness lol personally,i would rather have 4x4 on my face than trade ronaldo in for a poonana |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by babyme1(f): 9:58am On Apr 08, 2011 |
Interesting
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Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by MRD1(m): 8:32am On Apr 15, 2011 |
I strongly condenm tribal marks on unconscenting infants, |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by chikeuz(m): 4:34pm On Oct 25, 2011 |
If we bother to tell ourselves the truth- "tribal marks aint that chic". Whatever reason it is meant for is out-moded. It is a culture that would have made me renounce my tribe if they had made me an effing victim. Tattooes can be removed; tribal marks cannot. Not only whites get tattooes; blacks do too. It aint their culture anymore than its ours. Tattoo is a matter of choice; tribal marks; rarely, are. F.Y.I. Igbos in the past, circumcised cos of sanitary and purification purposes-a good tradition. Now get over yourself. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:12pm On Oct 25, 2011 |
I already gave my kids tribal marks. they are proud of it and so am I. my kids have the will and strength to withstand the pain for the sake of preserving their tribe and culture. Tribal mark symbolise duty towards ones tribe. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by BlackLibya: 2:11am On Oct 26, 2011 |
Tribal marks are African heritage. They are a sign of creativity and beauty. One thing I have noticed about traditional tropical Africans is that they used their bodies as their artistic canvas. They made their bodies beautiful whereas Westerners make their clothes beautiful. Scarification is beautiful. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:06pm On Oct 26, 2011 |
yes its our culture. and who denies that the woman above is beautiful. she IS beautiful. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by amor4ce(m): 1:24am On Oct 28, 2011 |
Are you implying that you were not beautiful OR were not created beautiful when you were born? |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by aribisala0(m): 12:22am On Oct 29, 2011 |
faulty logic. are we more beautiful naked or clothed |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by PAGAN9JA(m): 3:13am On Oct 29, 2011 |
amor4ce: NO. the tribal marks are not for beauty. they are just to show sign of bravery determination and duty and brotherhood towards the tribe. In times of war, they helped fellow tribe members identify their kin and prevent prevent them from killing their own tribe members. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by Amujale(m): 6:04am On Oct 29, 2011 |
Tribal marking is principally used PAGAN 9JA: however, in some cases it also acts as further evidence of our superior surgical understanding. Body art can (even without intending) also be deemed as a form of art; similar to a tatoo. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:50am On Oct 29, 2011 |
Amujale: yes i agree. it is also a form of art. which will be lost to the pages of history, if not conserved. atleast the adults can take steps towards using these marks, if they dont want their children to, though i advise it to be done at an early age so the child knows its true value. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by chikeuz(m): 12:03am On Oct 30, 2011 |
Stop this whole going-ons about tribal marks: they have never made nobody prettier and will never do. The thing makes people fugly-o joro njo |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by BlackLibya: 1:59am On Oct 30, 2011 |
Its amazing, how people used to think these were so beautiful, and now people think they are ugly. Most Africans who elect people to beauty pageants like Miss Universe end up selecting people who dont even know anything about their country, like Miss Ghana 2011 who didnt even represent the average Ghanian and grew up in Minnesota raised by her white mom. Furthermore, the women almost never have natural hair, always a long flowing weave. Flaviana Matata will always get my respect as an African woman who was proud of her roots, and she damn near won. They cheated her though, she was a finalist but didnt get picked over one white girl who FELL on the stage. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by tpia5: 8:09am On Oct 30, 2011 |
I think the people complaining about them are the ones who are ugly. |
Re: What Is The Significance Of The Yoruba Tribal Marks by abagoro(m): 12:30pm On Oct 30, 2011 |
We Africans can be annoying sometimes.What is wrong with tribal marks?All these butterfly and rose tatoos some of our ladies are carrying are European tatoos.What is wrong with carrying ours? 2ndly all the ethnic groups in Nigeria had tatoos including Igbos.Igbos were so quick to embrace Westernization that we lost our tatoo culture.My great grand mother had some tatoo from her neck down to her feet. Those saying it is ugly have been influenced by the European sense of beauty.In our almost extinct sense of beauty,the tatoos were appreciated. |
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