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Re: Why The New Vaccine May Probably Be The Mark Of The Beast 666 by HedwigesMaduro(m): 8:26am On Aug 02
petra1:

I will go through and revert
Ok.
Re: Why The New Vaccine May Probably Be The Mark Of The Beast 666 by HedwigesMaduro(m): 8:38am On Aug 02
Splinz:


Thank you so much for your time.

I've gone through the Olivet prophecy recorded in Matthew 24. However, I've not found a single verse even remotely talking of rapture or people being whisked away into 'heaven'. Perhaps, this rapture idea is coming from misunderstood verses like 41 & 42 of same chapter and 1 Thessalonians 4:17. This need not be.

Now, let's tie pieces of scriptures together to form a coherent whole. Of course as a rule, "For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little"

We'll start with Jesus arrival, as captured in Matthew 24:30 and elsewhere. It does appears like this is where a lot of people missed it, as the common thinking is that He is coming to take people to heaven or whisked them out of the earth.

Matthew 25:31-34 contains vital knowledge and readily helps in our discussion here. Actually, Matthew 25:31-34 is a continuation of the truth in Matthew 24:30-31. Remember, "...line upon line...".

Let's take note of at least 3 cardinal points in Matthew 25;

1. Throne

2. Nations

3. Kingdom prepared...

So verse 31 pictures Jesus arrival, and He sits on His glorious throne. Now, we don't have to speculate or assume where this throne will be. The bible will always interpret itself, and Luke 1:32-33 holds the answer. Yes, He will sit on the "...throne of His father David". And this is no other place but Jerusalem. A new Jerusalem is coming, where the tabernacle of God will be with man (Rev. 21:2-3).

Next we see that the nations of the earth are gathered and those faithful ones are rewarded and are told finally, to "inherit the kingdom prepared from the foundation of the earth". Does this prepared place or kingdom rings a bell? Yes, it should! Remember the prepared place in John 14:3? Oh yes...

The whole scenario, settings or events happens and revolves around no other place but the earth! Nobody is rapture anywhere, supposedly to the third heaven (John 3:13).

I have many things to discuss with you sir. But for time constraints, I'd draw the curtain here. Many thanks for your time.

Thanks and God bless you sir. I'll really like to learn more.
Re: Why The New Vaccine May Probably Be The Mark Of The Beast 666 by petra1(m): 1:46pm On Aug 02
HedwigesMaduro:


From my understanding:
Great tribulation comes before rapture, and rapture before the millennial reign for the following scriptural reasons:

In Paul's letter to the Thessalonians he explained the events of the rapture. The first event is the resurrection of dead saints (which is the first resurrection). In Revelation 20 it is stated that those that participated in the first resurrection refused the mark of the beast and they were killed for the testimony of Christ Jesus. This shows that the great tribulation would have happened before the first resurrection, which is the first event in the rapture. And they ruled with Christ for the 1000 years (the Millennial Reign). From the above it goes: great tribulation>rapture>Millennial Reign. Shalom.

From my study , which I will post details later.

1. Rapture saints taken up
2. Tribulation
3. Second coming . Christ comes to the earth with thousands of saints to execute judgemt
3. Millenia reign . Christ rules on earth with the saints he came down with .

The jews accepts christ as messiah
4 after Millenia satan is released from his prison and he leads the world in last battle of Gog and Maggog
Re: Why The New Vaccine May Probably Be The Mark Of The Beast 666 by Splinz(m): 9:54pm On Aug 02
HedwigesMaduro:


Thanks and God bless you sir. I'll really like to learn more.

Hello sir, thank you for your response and interest.

Let's continue from where we stopped. This time, I want us to look at Matthew 24:40-41 and 1 Thessalonians 4:17. I think these are supposed proof texts that rapturists used the most.

With Christ arrival, sitted on His throne, next He send his angels to gather the saints from the four corners of the earth. After the angels departure, here's what happens next;

"In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed" (1 Corinth 15:52). What changed exactly? From "mortal to immortal", verse 53. Put another way, from flesh and blood to spirit (John 3:6).

Yes, this event, like the bible describes it, will happen in a flash, at the sounding of the last trumpet. And then every spirit begotten sons and daughters of God, wherever they may be, will instantly changed; be born again, i.e, have everlasting life from that moment. Remember, this event will be the same for both those who sleeps in the Lord and those alive at His returns. In fact, pay a little more attention to 1 Thessalonians 4. This time, look at verse 16. Did you see where it says the dead in Christ shall rise first? Now ask yourself: Which dead? I thought they said the saints who sleeps in Christ are already living in heaven with God? Why will they need to rise again when they're already alive? Be the judge...

Now, when this changed might have taken place, then comes the fulfilment of Matthew 24:40:41 and 1 Thessalonians 4:17. At this point, these people being taken up, are no longer flesh and blood but spirit beings; immortals. Surely, a spirit being can ascend and descend, so it shouldn't be a surprise.

So let's round it up. With Christ already sitted and awaiting the arrival of his elect from all over the world, these glorified saints will descend or appear before the throne of Christ. And then just like government appointees are inaugurated at the start of a new government, Christ will officially commissioned and assigned portfolios to them.

And finally... The kingdom of God on earth begins!!!

Please let's discuss another time. Thank you.

PS: Hello petra1, please forgive my manners. Longest time sir. Accept my regards.
Re: Why The New Vaccine May Probably Be The Mark Of The Beast 666 by HedwigesMaduro(m): 9:58pm On Aug 02
Splinz:


Hello sir, thank you for your response and interest.

Let's continue from where we stopped. This time, I want us to look at Matthew 24:40-41 and 1 Thessalonians 4:17. I think these are supposed proof texts that rapturists used the most.

With Christ arrival, sitted on His throne, next He send his angels to gather the saints from the four corners of the earth. After the angels departure, here's what happens next;

"In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed" (1 Corinth 15:52). What changed exactly? From "mortal to immortal", verse 53. Put another way, from flesh and blood to spirit (John 3:6).

Yes, this event, like the bible describes it, will happen in a flash, at the sounding of the last trumpet. And then every spirit begotten sons and daughters of God, wherever they may be, will instantly changed; be born again, i.e, have everlasting life from that moment. Remember, this event will be the same for both those who sleeps in the Lord and those alive at His returns. In fact, pay a little more attention to 1 Thessalonians 4. This time, look at verse 16. Did you see where it says the dead in Christ shall rise first? Now ask yourself: Which dead? I thought they said the saints who sleeps in Christ are already living in heaven with God? Why will they need to rise again when they're already alive? Be the judge...

Now, when this changed might have taken place, then comes the fulfilment of Matthew 24:40:41 and 1 Thessalonians 4:17. At this point, these people being taken up, are no longer flesh and blood but spirit beings; immortals. Surely, a spirit being can ascend and descend, so it shouldn't be a surprise.

So let's round it up. With Christ already sitted and awaiting the arrival of his elect from all over the world, these glorified saints will descend or appear before the throne of Christ. And then just like government appointees are inaugurated at the start of a new government, Christ will officially commissioned and assigned portfolios to them.

And finally... The kingdom of God on earth begins!!!

Please let's discuss another time. Thank you.

PS: Hello petra1, please forgive my manners. Longest time sir. Accept my regards.

Ok sir. Will study more so we may rub minds. God bless you sir.
Re: Why The New Vaccine May Probably Be The Mark Of The Beast 666 by Splinz(m): 10:07pm On Aug 02
HedwigesMaduro:


Ok sir. Will study more so we may rub minds. God bless you sir.

Anytime. Thank you.

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