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Some Punishments From Jehovah by AntiChristian: 11:31am On Jul 30, 2020
The main purpose of this article is to show some brutal harsh punishments found in the Bible which Christians and Jews have no problems with, yet if they find a punishment in the Quran against the Jews they will suddenly raise their heads and start crying foul play.

We now quote the relevant passages which show some harsh and humiliating punishments found in the Bible:

1. Deut 23:1 He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

2. Deut 23:2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

So basically if you are a bastard, or have your penis cut off, then you cannot enter into the congregation of the lord, talk about humiliating and harsh!

Another punishment:

3. Deuteronomy
Chapter 28
15-68

15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field. 17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store. 18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out. 20 The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me. 21 The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it. 22 The LORD shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish. 23 And thy heaven that is over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee shall be iron. 24 The LORD shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed. 25 The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth. 26 And thy carcass shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall fray them away. 27 The LORD will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed. 28 The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart: 29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee. 30 Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof. 31 Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them. 32 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand. 33 The fruit of thy land, and all thy labors, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway: 34 So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see. 35 The LORD shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head. 36 The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone. 37 And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee. 38 Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it. 39 Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them. 40 Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit. 41 Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity. 42 All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume. 43 The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low. 44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.

45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee: 46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever. 47 Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things; 48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in unclothedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee. 49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; 50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor show favor to the young: 51 And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee. 52 And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the LORD thy God hath given thee. 53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee: 54 So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave: 55 So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates. 56 The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter, 57 And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates. 58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD; 59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance. 60 Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee. 61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed. 62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God. 63 And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it. 64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone. 65 And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind: 66 And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life: 67 In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see. 68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

So talk about harsh and humiliating!

In summary from those passages God will punish the sinful Jews as follows.

1- The Lord will kill them by sickness such as the fever and heart-attacks.

2- The Lord will kill them by the sword.

3- The Lord will cause the Jews to flee 7 ways, meaning being chased from all sides.

4- The Lord will remove them from the earth.

5- The Lord will cause your wife to sleep with other men.

6- Animals and beasts will eat your dead bodies.

7- The Lord will give your children to other people, and you will watch this, and feel a lot of sorrow but you will not be able to do anything about it.

8- You will get children, but will not enjoy them since they will become slaves/prisoners.

9- You will eat your own kids because you have nothing left to eat!

That is what you call very harsh and very humiliating.

So if Christians and Jews have a problem with Allah turning some sinful Jews into apes and pigs, then they should definitely have a problem with their own God for doing very harsh and humiliating punishments as well.

Advocatejare, Sagenaija, Agentnairaland which of these punishment do you deserve from your Lord for your hypocrisy?

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Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by madegreatbygrace(m): 11:46am On Jul 30, 2020
[quote author=AntiChristian post=92263151]The main purpose of this article is to show some brutal harsh punishments found in the Bible which Christians and Jews have no problems with, yet if they find a punishment in the Quran against the Jews they will suddenly raise their heads and start crying foul play.

We now quote the relevant passages which show some harsh and humiliating punishments found in the Bible:

1. Deut 23:1 He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

2. Deut 23:2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

So basically if you are a bastard, or have your penis cut off, then you cannot enter into the congregation of the lord, talk about humiliating and harsh!

Another punishment:

3. Deuteronomy
Chapter 28
15-68

15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field. 17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store. 18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out. 20 The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me. 21 The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it. 22 The LORD shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish. 23 And thy heaven that is over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee shall be iron. 24 The LORD shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed. 25 The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth. 26 And thy carcass shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall fray them away. 27 The LORD will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed. 28 The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart: 29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee. 30 Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof. 31 Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them. 32 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand. 33 The fruit of thy land, and all thy labors, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway: 34 So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see. 35 The LORD shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head. 36 The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone. 37 And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee. 38 Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it. 39 Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them. 40 Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit. 41 Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity. 42 All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume. 43 The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low. 44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.

45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee: 46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever. 47 Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things; 48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in unclothedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee. 49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; 50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor show favor to the young: 51 And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee. 52 And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the LORD thy God hath given thee. 53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee: 54 So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave: 55 So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates. 56 The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter, 57 And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates. 58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD; 59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance. 60 Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee. 61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed. 62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God. 63 And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it. 64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone. 65 And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind: 66 And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life: 67 In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see. 68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

So talk about harsh and humiliating!

In summary from those passages God will punish the sinful Jews as follows.

1- The Lord will kill them by sickness such as the fever and heart-attacks.

2- The Lord will kill them by the sword.

3- The Lord will cause the Jews to flee 7 ways, meaning being chased from all sides.

4- The Lord will remove them from the earth.

5- The Lord will cause your wife to sleep with other men.

6- Animals and beasts will eat your dead bodies.

7- The Lord will give your children to other people, and you will watch this, and feel a lot of sorrow but you will not be able to do anything about it.

8- You will get children, but will not enjoy them since they will become slaves/prisoners.

9- You will eat your own kids because you have nothing left to eat!

That is what you call very harsh and very humiliating.

So if Christians and Jews have a problem with Allah turning some sinful Jews into apes and pigs, then they should definitely have a problem with their own God for doing very harsh and humiliating punishments as well.

Advocatejare, Sagenaija, Agentnairaland which of these punishment do you deserve from your Lord for your hypocrisy?


Mr. Man, go and learn the meaning of contextual interpretation of the Bible. Don't just lift a verse or chapter from the Bible, and then give it your own interpretation.

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Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by AntiChristian: 11:52am On Jul 30, 2020
[quote author=madegreatbygrace post=92263617][/quote]

Abeg what's your own interpretation of these verses?
Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by madegreatbygrace(m): 4:26pm On Jul 30, 2020
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quote author=AntiChristian post=92263749]

Abeg what's your own interpretation of these verses?



To every story,there's a beginning, a middle, and an ending.

Reading the middle and the ending, while ignoring the beginning will only make you arrive at a wrong understanding of the Bible and a warped knowledge of God.

The law was never God's plan for the nation of Israel.

His intention was grace and grace only.

The law was added because of transgression.

“What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:19‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

What was the transgression ?

Transgression was rejecting God's commandment.

This is the commandment:

“Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭19:5‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

The only covenant at this point was the Abrahamic covenant, which is justification by faith.

So God gave them a proposition.

Now, see their response to God's proposition:


“Then all the people answered together and said, “All that the LORD has spoken we will do.” So Moses brought back the words of the people to the LORD.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭19:8‬

On the surface, it looks as if they agreed with God.

Not really. Pay special attention to the phrase "we will do". They wanted to do something to get something.

They wanted to be a kingdom of priests by obeying a list of commandments.

But God had a different plan for them, which is justification by faith (grace)

The writer of Hebrews affirms this:

“For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:2‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

So they rejected grace and opted for works.
They wanted to be justified by works- by what they do.

God is a gentleman ; He respects everybody's will

As a result, the law was given to them.

Go back to the Galatians 3:19 again

It says the law was appointed or given through angels in the hand of a mediator (Moses)

I'm sure you're aware that there's a consequence or punishment for every disobedience of the law.

The enforcement officers in this case are the angels.

God is therefore not responsible for the death and curses you listed above.

He can never be part of anything that ministers death and condemnation.

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Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by AgentNairaland(f): 9:37pm On Aug 01, 2020
[quote author=madegreatbygrace post=92263617][/quote]

The punishment Muhammad deserves for all his atrocities while alive

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Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by AntiChristian: 8:09am On Aug 02, 2020
AgentNairaland:


The punishment Muhammad deserves for all his atrocities while alive

But Jesus was hanged on cross while his father was watching!

Jesus then accused his father of forsaking him.

This script wasn't well written at all!

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Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by AgentNairaland(f): 8:19am On Aug 02, 2020
AntiChristian:


But Jesus was hanged on cross while his father was watching!

Jesus then accused his father of forsaking him.

This script wasn't well written at all!

But the same quran said JESUS CHRIST IS ALIVE till today, Or is one and only messenger of allah, Muhammad alive?

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Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by AntiChristian: 8:36am On Aug 02, 2020
AgentNairaland:


But the same quran said JESUS CHRIST IS ALIVE till today, Or is one and only messenger of allah, Muhammad alive?

Muhammad has completed his destiny on earth so he died. Our Jesus hasn't completed his destiny and he didn't die like yours. He will come back to earth and rule with the law of Islam!
Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by advocatejare(m): 4:41pm On Aug 02, 2020
Antichristian come and see punishment from Allah and his messenger

1.
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter, Except for those who return repenting before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
— Qur'an 5: 33-34


2. Muhammad stoned people to death

'Narrated Ash Shaibani: I asked 'Abdullah bin Abi Aufa, 'Did Allah's Apostle carry out the Rajam penalty (i.e., stoning to death)?' He said, "Yes." I said, "Before the revelation of Surat-ar-Nur or after it?" He replied, "I don't Know".
-Sahih Bukhari 8:82:804

3.
"Allah's Messenger awarded the punishment of stoning to death to the married adulterer and adulteress and, after him, ..."
Sahih Muslim 17:4194

4.

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
A woman borrowed jewellery through some known persons and she herself was unknown. She then sold them. She was seized and brought to the Prophet (ﷺ). He gave orders that her hand should be cut off. It is this woman about whom Usamah interceded and of her the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said whatever he said.
-Sunan Abi Dawud 4396


5. Ruthless merciless murderer amputation:

Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:
A thief was brought to the Prophet (ﷺ). He said: Kill him. The people said: He has committed theft, Messenger of Allah! Then he said: Cut off his hand. So his (right) hand was cut off. He was brought a second time and he said: Kill him. The people said: He has committed theft, Messenger of Allah! Then he said: Cut off his foot.
So his (left) foot was cut off.
He was brought a third time and he said: Kill him.
The people said: He has committed theft, Messenger of Allah!
So he said: Cut off his hand. (So his (left) hand was cut off.)
He was brought a fourth time and he said: Kill him.
The people said: He has committed theft, Messenger of Allah!
So he said: Cut off his foot. So his (right) foot was cut off.
He was brought a fifth time and he said: Kill him.
So we took him away and killed him. We then dragged him and cast him into a well and threw stones over him.
- Sunan Abi Dawud 4410


6.murderer

Narrated Al-Bara' ibn Azib:
I met my uncle who was carrying a standard. I asked him: Where are you going? He said: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) has sent me to a man who has married his father's wife. He has ordered me to cut off his head and take his property.
- Sunan Abi Dawud 4457


7.

"Narrated By Al-Bara bin Azib
Allah's Apostle sent a group of persons to Abu Rafi. Abdullah bin Atik entered his house at night, while he was sleeping, and killed him."
-Sahih Bukhari 5:59:370


8. Lastly muhammad was a paid human butcher. He collected money for mutilating people:

‘A’ishah said:
The prophet (ﷺ) used to cut off a thief’s hand for a quarter of a dinar and upwards.
-Sunan Abi Dawud 4383

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Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by AntiChristian: 8:28am On Aug 03, 2020
advocatejare:
Antichristian come and see punishment from Allah and his messenger

1.
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter, Except for those who return repenting before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
— Qur'an 5: 33-34


2. Muhammad stoned people to death

'Narrated Ash Shaibani: I asked 'Abdullah bin Abi Aufa, 'Did Allah's Apostle carry out the Rajam penalty (i.e., stoning to death)?' He said, "Yes." I said, "Before the revelation of Surat-ar-Nur or after it?" He replied, "I don't Know".
-Sahih Bukhari 8:82:804

3.
"Allah's Messenger awarded the punishment of stoning to death to the married adulterer and adulteress and, after him, ..."
Sahih Muslim 17:4194

4.

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
A woman borrowed jewellery through some known persons and she herself was unknown. She then sold them. She was seized and brought to the Prophet (ﷺ). He gave orders that her hand should be cut off. It is this woman about whom Usamah interceded and of her the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said whatever he said.
-Sunan Abi Dawud 4396


5. Ruthless merciless murderer amputation:

Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:
A thief was brought to the Prophet (ﷺ). He said: Kill him. The people said: He has committed theft, Messenger of Allah! Then he said: Cut off his hand. So his (right) hand was cut off. He was brought a second time and he said: Kill him. The people said: He has committed theft, Messenger of Allah! Then he said: Cut off his foot.
So his (left) foot was cut off.
He was brought a third time and he said: Kill him.
The people said: He has committed theft, Messenger of Allah!
So he said: Cut off his hand. (So his (left) hand was cut off.)
He was brought a fourth time and he said: Kill him.
The people said: He has committed theft, Messenger of Allah!
So he said: Cut off his foot. So his (right) foot was cut off.
He was brought a fifth time and he said: Kill him.
So we took him away and killed him. We then dragged him and cast him into a well and threw stones over him.
- Sunan Abi Dawud 4410


6.murderer

Narrated Al-Bara' ibn Azib:
I met my uncle who was carrying a standard. I asked him: Where are you going? He said: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) has sent me to a man who has married his father's wife. He has ordered me to cut off his head and take his property.
- Sunan Abi Dawud 4457


7.

"Narrated By Al-Bara bin Azib
Allah's Apostle sent a group of persons to Abu Rafi. Abdullah bin Atik entered his house at night, while he was sleeping, and killed him."
-Sahih Bukhari 5:59:370


8. Lastly muhammad was a paid human butcher. He collected money for mutilating people:

‘A’ishah said:
The prophet (ﷺ) used to cut off a thief’s hand for a quarter of a dinar and upwards.
-Sunan Abi Dawud 4383

How I wish this pristine laws could be applied in Nigeria instead of the repented Jehovah laws we are using!
Most of these laws and more were applied by Yahweh in the Old Testament till he changed his mind totally in the New Testament.
Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by advocatejare(m): 12:14pm On Aug 03, 2020
AntiChristian:


How I wish this pristine laws could be applied in Nigeria instead of the repented Jehovah laws we are using!
Such laws will be applied on you and your households since you're in support of it.
Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by joyandfaith: 12:34pm On Aug 03, 2020
AntiChristian:
The main purpose of this article is to show some brutal harsh punishments found in the Bible which Christians and Jews have no problems with, yet if they find a punishment in the Quran against the Jews they will suddenly raise their heads and start crying foul play.

We now quote the relevant passages which show some harsh and humiliating punishments found in the Bible:

1. Deut 23:1 He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

2. Deut 23:2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

So basically if you are a bastard, or have your penis cut off, then you cannot enter into the congregation of the lord, talk about humiliating and harsh!

Another punishment:

3. Deuteronomy
Chapter 28
15-68

15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field. 17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store. 18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out. 20 The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me. 21 The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it. 22 The LORD shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish. 23 And thy heaven that is over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee shall be iron. 24 The LORD shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed. 25 The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth. 26 And thy carcass shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall fray them away. 27 The LORD will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed. 28 The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart: 29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee. 30 Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof. 31 Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them. 32 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand. 33 The fruit of thy land, and all thy labors, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway: 34 So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see. 35 The LORD shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head. 36 The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone. 37 And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee. 38 Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it. 39 Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them. 40 Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit. 41 Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity. 42 All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume. 43 The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low. 44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.

45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee: 46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever. 47 Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things; 48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in unclothedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee. 49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; 50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor show favor to the young: 51 And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee. 52 And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the LORD thy God hath given thee. 53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee: 54 So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave: 55 So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates. 56 The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter, 57 And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates. 58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD; 59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance. 60 Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee. 61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed. 62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God. 63 And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it. 64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone. 65 And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind: 66 And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life: 67 In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see. 68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

So talk about harsh and humiliating!

In summary from those passages God will punish the sinful Jews as follows.

1- The Lord will kill them by sickness such as the fever and heart-attacks.

2- The Lord will kill them by the sword.

3- The Lord will cause the Jews to flee 7 ways, meaning being chased from all sides.

4- The Lord will remove them from the earth.

5- The Lord will cause your wife to sleep with other men.

6- Animals and beasts will eat your dead bodies.

7- The Lord will give your children to other people, and you will watch this, and feel a lot of sorrow but you will not be able to do anything about it.

8- You will get children, but will not enjoy them since they will become slaves/prisoners.

9- You will eat your own kids because you have nothing left to eat!

That is what you call very harsh and very humiliating.

So if Christians and Jews have a problem with Allah turning some sinful Jews into apes and pigs, then they should definitely have a problem with their own God for doing very harsh and humiliating punishments as well.

Advocatejare, Sagenaija, Agentnairaland which of these punishment do you deserve from your Lord for your hypocrisy?



yes punishment for jews who disobeyed Jehovah before coming of Christ.
Jehovah justly destroys deliberate lawbreakers, liars, and those showing hostility to his servants. (Le 23:30; Ps 5:6; 143:12 ) He acts against false religion and its idols. ( Nu 33:52; De 12:2, 3 ) Jehovah even took destructive action against his people Israel when they proved disobedient
to his covenant.​— De 8:19, 20; 28:63; Jer 31:28 .

those punishments are not for Christians who are real followers of christ. even for bad people, punishment for them is eternal destruction.
The possibility of eternal destruction is particularly an issue during the conclusion of the system of things. When Jesus was asked by his disciples what would be ‘the sign of his presence and of the conclusion of the system of things,’ he included as part of his answer the parable of the sheep and the goats. (Mt 24:3; 25:31-46 ) Concerning “the goats” it was foretold that the heavenly King would say: “Be on your way from me, you who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels,” and Jesus added, “These will depart into everlasting cutting-off.” Clearly the attitude and actions of some individuals will result in their permanent destruction.
Culled: www.jw.org
Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by AntiChristian: 8:20am On Aug 04, 2020
joyandfaith:




yes punishment for jews who disobeyed Jehovah before coming of Christ.
Jehovah justly destroys deliberate lawbreakers, liars, and those showing hostility to his servants. (Le 23:30; Ps 5:6; 143:12 ) He acts against false religion and its idols. ( Nu 33:52; De 12:2, 3 ) Jehovah even took destructive action against his people Israel when they proved disobedient
to his covenant.​— De 8:19, 20; 28:63; Jer 31:28 .

those punishments are not for Christians who are real followers of christ. even for bad people, punishment for them is eternal destruction.
The possibility of eternal destruction is particularly an issue during the conclusion of the system of things. When Jesus was asked by his disciples what would be ‘the sign of his presence and of the conclusion of the system of things,’ he included as part of his answer the parable of the sheep and the goats. (Mt 24:3; 25:31-46 ) Concerning “the goats” it was foretold that the heavenly King would say: “Be on your way from me, you who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels,” and Jesus added, “These will depart into everlasting cutting-off.” Clearly the attitude and actions of some individuals will result in their permanent destruction.
Culled: www.jw.org

So you mean Jehovah is not fair to the previous nations but fair to the Christians? What was Jehovah's approved religion before the coming of Christ?
Everything the old world did and even worse are being perpetrated today.
Why did Jehovah change His mind and approved Christianity. Obviously the OT is different from the NT. Why the change?

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Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by joyandfaith: 9:06am On Aug 04, 2020
AntiChristian:


So you mean Jehovah is not fair to the previous nations but fair to the Christians? What was Jehovah's approved religion before the coming of Christ?
Everything the old world did and even worse are being perpetrated today.
Why did Jehovah change His mind and approved Christianity. Obviously the OT is different from the NT. Why the change?

Jehovah had covenant with nation of israel and people from nations who wanted to worship him must do so through nation of israel. strict laws were given to Israel to separate them from other nations. Israel had this opportunity because of promise Jehovah made to Abraham.
unfortunately, israelites rejected God and his Son Jesus. Jesus told jews that their house had been abandoned and worshiping God in temple would not longer be approved mode of worship but people would worship God in spirit and truth. This is referred to as new covenant. Now people from all nations are accepted by God if they are willing to obey him and they do not need to worship in Temple in Jerusalem.

Those that accepted Jesus and followed him were called Christians and till today anybody that is following Christ is practicing Christianity.
Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by AntiChristian: 3:18pm On Aug 04, 2020
joyandfaith:


Jehovah had covenant with nation of israel and people from nations who wanted to worship him must do so through nation of israel. strict laws were given to Israel to separate them from other nations. Israel had this opportunity because of promise Jehovah made to Abraham.
unfortunately, israelites rejected God and his Son Jesus. Jesus told jews that their house had been abandoned and worshiping God in temple would not longer be approved mode of worship but people would worship God in spirit and truth. This is referred to as new covenant. Now people from all nations are accepted by God if they are willing to obey him and they do not need to worship in Temple in Jerusalem.

Those that accepted Jesus and followed him were called Christians and till today anybody that is following Christ is practicing Christianity.

Why not Christianity from inception? How many Prophet in the OT knew they have three Gods in one of which Jesus is his son?
Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by joyandfaith: 6:02pm On Aug 04, 2020
AntiChristian:


Why not Christianity from inception? How many Prophet in the OT knew they have three Gods in one of which Jesus is his son?

Teaching of Three Gods in one is not biblical.
Deut 6:4.  Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

Nothing like three God in one.

Christians are followers of Christ. Jesus was sent as last prophet.

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Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by spodam(m): 3:52pm On Aug 08, 2020
You mean the same israel that experience Johovah and Jesus in reality, but today the same israel has just 2 - 4% as christians.

joyandfaith:


Jehovah had covenant with nation of israel and people from nations who wanted to worship him must do so through nation of israel. strict laws were given to Israel to separate them from other nations. Israel had this opportunity because of promise Jehovah made to Abraham.
unfortunately, israelites rejected God and his Son Jesus. Jesus told jews that their house had been abandoned and worshiping God in temple would not longer be approved mode of worship but people would worship God in spirit and truth. This is referred to as new covenant. Now people from all nations are accepted by God if they are willing to obey him and they do not need to worship in Temple in Jerusalem.

Those that accepted Jesus and followed him were called Christians and till today anybody that is following Christ is practicing Christianity.
Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by Nobody: 4:10pm On Aug 08, 2020
spodam:
You mean the same israel that experience Johovah and Jesus in reality, but today the same israel has just 2 - 4% as christians.

How would you feel if someone goes out there arguing profusely and wrongly over your matter without considering what you have to say first on the issue?

Well Jesus claims to be God's only begotten son, and he said "majority of those claiming Christians will be condemned as workers of iniquity" Matthew 7:21-23

He also said "Just as it occurred in Noah's day, the same thing will repeat itself" Luke 17:25-27

I think going by this warning a right thinking person should expect even less than 1% of Israel to be true Christians!
Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by joyandfaith: 4:11pm On Aug 08, 2020
spodam:
You mean the same israel that experience Johovah and Jesus in reality, but today the same israel has just 2 - 4% as christians.


yes, leaders of israel were expecting a messiah that would bring actual kingdom to Jerusalem and free them from Roman rule. They were wrong. Till today most jews are still expecting a messiah that will bring back lost glory of israel as was in time of David and Solomon. Few Jews are Christians. Most jews views Jesus as a good man who was killed wrongly.
Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by Nobody: 4:14pm On Aug 08, 2020
joyandfaith:

Teaching of Three Gods in one is not biblical.
Deut 6:4.  Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Nothing like three God in one.
Christians are followers of Christ. Jesus was sent as last prophet.

Hello i'm Maximus69, a brother serving in one of the congregations in Lagos. How are you coping with the lockdown and routine?
Pioneering regular or auxiliary? smiley
Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by joyandfaith: 4:22pm On Aug 08, 2020
Maximus69:


Hello i'm Maximus69, a brother serving in one of the congregations in Lagos. How are you coping with the lockdown and routine?
Pioneering regular or auxiliary? smiley

rp and cs. it has not being easy but Jehovah has been faithfully. I am somewhere in Oyo State, though I do visit Lagos occasionally- Mushin, agege,ogba,badagry

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Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by Nobody: 4:27pm On Aug 08, 2020
joyandfaith:

rp and cs. it has not being easy but Jehovah has been faithfully. I am somewhere in Oyo State, though I do visit Lagos occasionally- Mushin, agege,ogba,badagry

Hmmmmmmmm well-done!

Thanks for the love shown for his name! Hebrew 6:10
Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by sonmvayina(m): 4:30pm On Aug 08, 2020
AntiChristian:


How I wish this pristine laws could be applied in Nigeria instead of the repented Jehovah laws we are using!
Most of these laws and more were applied by Yahweh in the Old Testament till he changed his mind totally in the New Testament.

Nah.. It is just a story.. The Roman's did a good PR job..
Just like saying superman did not kill anybody in superman 1 but killed people in superman 2..it is just the writer imaginations.. These things never happened.. In real life.
Re: Some Punishments From Jehovah by joyandfaith: 4:48pm On Aug 08, 2020
Maximus69:

Hmmmmmmmm well-done!
Thanks for the love shown for his name! Hebrew 6:10
thank you bro

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