proeast:


It is obvious you lack the ability to read and comprehend. Read my reply to him again. Who is talking about fighting a war with Nigeria? Igbos can achieve Biafra without firing a single shot! Nigeria already has lots of fractures we can manipulate to break away. Thank God we have influential people in strategic places globally who can reach out to powerful individuals. Nigeria is not a nuclear power or even a mid-level powerful country that can challenge the US and UN should they endorse our break up. Which president will want to dare them? Nigeria is already very close to anarchy. Look at the NE, NW, NC and even the South is becoming increasingly unsafe. The country is in tatters and as it is now, a declaration in Washington can break it up without any form of resistance.

Difrent:


This is exactly the point that other Nigerians have been pointing out to you as wrong, its wrong for you to want to tear the country apart because your candidate lost an election, ITS PURE GREED THATS DRIVING YOUR ACTIONS..... the same Nigeria you lost faith in 4years earlier elected GEJ, the same Nigeria lost faith in GEJ but only the ibos stood by him (which is commendable) but unfortunately it's the minority opinion and in democracy, the majority have their way.........Its very unfair of you to be demanding presidency from a party you loathe so much speaks volumes of how confused you are

Misterdhee1:

Did you guys vote for the abiola you're even talking about?

proeast:


Let me address your own points respectively

1. Igbos are not threatening anyone, at least we aren't saying we are going to kill anyone or to set Nigeria on fire. Rather, it is a promise. Telling Nigerians that we will chart our own course where we will have our dignity is not a threat. We have the right to self determination.

2. Having a secession clause in the Constitution or not doesn't change anything in the long run. We have the numbers and global spread to bring Nigeria to its knees. At the moment, the percentage of Igbos asking for Biafra is not up 30% yet Nigeria is feeling the pressure, then imagine what will happen when up to 80% of us become passionate about it. Igbos make up the highest number of Nigerians abroad and if they form a critical mass against Nigeria, the result will be devastating on our corporate image. Also, we have influential personalities in strategic places globally that could help us dismantle Nigeria. Nigeria is a very weak country and it would be gone once the US and UN are convinced to break it.

proeast:
If those that want Nigeria to continue existing are wise and sensible, they will see the quest for Igbo presidency as a do or die affair. This is because the Igbos are gradually pulling out of the union and the effect of their psychological withdrawal is having serious adverse effects on Nigeria.

The Yorubas already believe that Nigeria is given them what Oduduwa cannot give them, but the Igbos believe that the worst form of Biafra will be better than what they're experiencing in Nigeria. Who between these two groups do you think should be pacified for peace and progress?

hollah123:
nothing like do or die about Igbo presidency,it's obvious APC will never field an Igbo man cos we all know majority of Igbos have vowed to die than to have anything doing with APC n I believe APC understands d message, wike stylishly told u few days ago that it's winning formula not zoning formula,that's a subtle reminder that they might not consider zoning.so if the two biggest parties with structures don't field an Igbo man wi
ll heaven fall?

Which Igbos are pulling out of the nation?is it the ones u people claim have bought all the lands in Yoruba land n Hausa land? so which psychological effect are u talking about?
even when u people failed to partake in census Nigeria moved on n they have been running things without u since a long time ago,so what do u think will change now?
There's nothing like pacifying anyone for peace at all cos we have seen your worst during Nnamdi Kanu regime so what else will u do?

so if I get the meaning of pacifying for peace,u mean the Yorubas that brought ACN n those that brought CPC n other parties should leave all they have laboured for so as peace to reign n give it to someone who hates them with passion?

u think APC didn't see what u did to Okorocha?u ignore ikpeasu d most useless governor in Nigeria n u condemn Okorocha just cos he's APC n u want APC ticket for peace to reign?
Thunder fire peace

proeast:


Let me address your own points respectively

1. Igbos are not threatening anyone, at least we aren't saying we are going to kill anyone or to set Nigeria on fire. Rather, it is a promise. Telling Nigerians that we will chart our own course where we will have our dignity is not a threat. We have the right to self determination.

2. Having a secession clause in the Constitution or not doesn't change anything in the long run. We have the numbers and global spread to bring Nigeria to its knees. At the moment, the percentage of Igbos asking for Biafra is not up 30% yet Nigeria is feeling the pressure, then imagine what will happen when up to 80% of us become passionate about it. Igbos make up the highest number of Nigerians abroad and if they form a critical mass against Nigeria, the result will be devastating on our corporate image. Also, we have influential personalities in strategic places globally that could help us dismantle Nigeria. Nigeria is a very weak country and it would be gone once the US and UN are convinced to break it.

EMMY76:



You are the one deceiving urself if u think the whole north will ever be united again to fight the igbos in another genocidal war of attrition. The recent massacres of northern minorities by the fulanis have opened their eyes to the real meaning of one nigeria there's absolutely no way nigeria as we know it can survive a second civil war don't decieve urself even the people of the niger delta are also looking for any opportunity to break out of nigeria and be in total control of their God given resources that's been currently stolen by the north and the sw.

proeast:


It is obvious you lack the ability to read and comprehend. Read my reply to him again. Who is talking about fighting a war with Nigeria? Igbos can achieve Biafra without firing a single shot! Nigeria already has lots of fractures we can manipulate to break away. Thank God we have influential people in strategic places globally who can reach out to powerful individuals. Nigeria is not a nuclear power or even a mid-level powerful country that can challenge the US and UN should they endorse our break up. Which president will want to dare them? Nigeria is already very close to anarchy. Look at the NE, NW, NC and even the South is becoming increasingly unsafe. The country is in tatters and as it is now, a declaration in Washington can break it up without any form of resistance.

chrisblack:
and you feel the US that cannot intervene in Crimea, Libya (our backyard), Syria etc ,would choose to bother it self with Nigeria.You think Washington would bother it self with a situation it knows it can not win?.let me tell you why your reasoning is flawed. China which as much at stake to protect all the loans given to Nigeria would be involved,Russia for just the sake of US bet involved would step up it's game, and also for strategic importance of Nigeria, Britain would definitely support Nigeria. UN siddon look. Many of you don't understand what you talk about.you are part of these Yahoo generation. US as lost its appetite for global war. Of what benefit would it be to the US supporting SE as against the entire country. Stop thinking through your Anus.
Mind you in all scenario the war would still be fought in the SE ,coupled with it's attendant destruction of life and property.
Washington can't declare a country independent on its own.

UdechiHD:
We didn’t stop there! We joined NADECO and helped fight for Abiola’s mandate even when many of your sons ran away. The likes of Nwankwo was NADECO Vice Chairman etc.

2. In 1999 we didn’t sabotage Yoruba Presidency, and respected the gentleman agreement.
Obasanjo got our vote in 1999.

3. In 2003 when we had the chance to stand with the Buhari/Okadigbo Presidency we still threw our vote for your brother. Before pointing those accusing fingers on Ndigbo be fair and look yourselves in the mirror. Ndigbo ain’t like you when it comes to political liberalism.

proeast:


It's obvious you don't understand how international diplomacy works. Yes, the US can't intervene in Crimea because Russia is a nuclear power fighting against a little island. They did intervene in Libya and that's why Ghaddafi was assassinated. They intervened in Syria too but the situation there was complicated. Now, in the case of Nigeria. Once we can successfully lobby Washington. They will intervene by telling the UN that genocide is going on in Nigeria and the world can't afford to withness another Rwanda, albeit a worse version. The UN will now act in the capacity of trying to save millions from dying in Nigeria, and they will inform whoever is the president to allow a UN supervised referendum to be conducted. Meanwhile, publicity on killings in the middle belt, NE and NW as well as the rest of Nigeria will be massive at this point, thus giving the UN credibility and putting the government in terrible light. At this point too, all the aggrieved ethnic groups, and mind you they're many will become emboldened to start challenging the FG while supporting the UN. No country or global body will want to be seen as supporting a tyrant who is supervising the killing of his people and they will in essence support the UN.

With global attention now on Nigeria, IPOB and other separatist groups would form a critical mass and would be marching the streets of global cities in protests in solidarity with the UN mandate. Already, threats of war crimes, sanctions and millitary intervention will be in the pipeline. Remember that America and France has bases surrounding Nigeria. Ohanaeze, Afenifere, Niger Delta groups and Middle belt groups would obviously be in support of the UN and they would be mounting serious pressure locally too. Now ask yourself, which president can withstand all these pressure??

There is what is known as the Cascade effect. Things can spiral out of control and China won't even have the chance or capacity to make any difference.

So, I repeat, the country can be broken up very easily without any war!

proeast:
Nwodo has said it all, nothing more to add. Igbos have passed the ball and it is now in their court. So, whatever they return is what will decide the way forward.

Igbos have shown more love to Nigeria than any other group but what did we get in return? Hate, envy, jealousy and wickedness. They joined forces with the sole purpose of keeping us down. However, it is no longer business as usual, something will definitely give this time around.

Igbos embraced GEJ, not because he is an Igbo man but simply because he ran an all inclusive government which the Igbos have always asked for, and I don't think that too much. We stood with him through thick and thin, even when facts on ground showed he did more for the North than any other zone.

When the results were being announced, and it became obvious he was going to lose, many places in the East became quiet like a graveyard. I could feel the frustration, anger and sadness in many people. I believe it was at this point that many Igbos joined IPOB because they totally lost faith in Nigeria. Now, imagine what will happen in 2023 if/when the Igbos are sidelined again. I don't need any soothsayer to tell me what is going to happen. That will definitely be the proverbial last straw that will break the camel's back.

What Nwodo said is obviously what is going to happen and that is why IPOB is praying that Igbos should be sidelined so that they can achieve a consensus in the demand for Biafra.

kollinzgee:
2023 Let the war come quick I am ready to kill and die for the emancipation of our people and our generations to come it will be totally different from 1966 this generation is smarter..
Peace..

chrisblack:
There you go without even understanding the basic norm of international relations. Do you know Ukraine was also nuclear? .was it not the same US that prevailed upon Russia to jointly force Ukraine to give up it's weapon with a quaranty of protection by the US and Russia of it's sovereignty and geographical integrity. So what happened. Let me tell you a truth today. Nigeria can not be allowed to failed
Nigeria is a major calamity of global proportion.The non peaceful disintegration of the country would never be allowed even by so called super powers cause of it's consequent effect on Africa. The destruction of economies of other nations,the largest refugee's situation ever known to mankind etc. Your reasoning is just hypothetical. I tell you there can never be a referendum without a preceding military confrontation. From former yogoslavia to Crimea,to Ukraine,South Sudan,east Timor etc. You are not a student of history.Tell me who would intervene military U.S ?.you must be kidding.which separatist group would for a critical mass with IPOB? Let me tell you where you lack simple basic understanding of power and military projection. Oil which is our major stay is of global concern to only a few countries excluding US. They would not be interested. IPOB will be crushed, forget the rants of Kanu . He will run. The effect on the south east will be devastating. The war would definitely be fought. The only means of reducing the effect is if the entire south choose to stand together,which I doubt,not because of lack of wanting same but due to the nature of perceived overbearing and usually illogical reasoning as regards issues like these.

chrisblack:
forget all these hypo. It will happen and nothing will happen.if you want the presidency figth for it. And if you want insurgency along with IPOB .Then ready for the consequences. The question is simple have you build the bridge's needed for such. Check the last 2 elections. Even the north divided their vote for the same Jonathan. Likewise the other parts. Learn to play inclusive politics. 2023 is close by. Power is not gifted. You work to attain it.

hollah123:
let me address it based on the points u raised
(1) Power can never/will never b given by threats,if that's Igbos strategy to get power then they are on a very long thing

u sit down in one corner n some people are really strategizing hard n somehow u come with threats so as to have what others worked hard for,Na so e easy reach?

(2) On the issue of joining Nnamdi Kanu,if they like let them join Hitler,just one question anybody will ask them is .........is there seccesion in the constitution?
Some people think it's by making noise,d UN,FIFA,US,n all those that they run to doesn't even care so your best bet is to master d act of politicking n use it to your advantage like others.

And to I'll informed Igbos who will talk about micro zoning,ask yourself was there micro zoning in 99 when ekweme contested against obj, Ogbonnaya onu contested against Olu falae.....so theres nothing like it's our turn or any cheap blackmail.

hollah123:
so it was when u lost power that u lost faith in Nigeria,but if u are still in power u will never lose faith in Nigeria?
when it was time for election,Biafra agitation died down cos u believed u have a chance even Nnamdi Kanu instructed u to vote Atiku but when u failed again u embrace Biafra......now it's crystal clear your Biafra is just a blackmail n propaganda tool to get power.
we still remember what happened during the civil war n how Igbos could b dangerous with power.

Ogalanyachieze:
you guys always fail to show us the bridges(whatever that means) you guys built that made us vote for other zones in all the elections

Ogalanyachieze:
And who even told you that it was a crime to want out of nigeria if ur out of power. The north did it in araba riots. When they said they can't be in a country ruled by igbos. And after abiola lost his mandate the west started what is now known as abiola riots and wanted out of nigeria so how is that a crime to want to be part of the leadership of ur country from time to time oh so you still remember what happened at the civil war yet you want igbos to forget the war. And move on. U are mad

nokatakata:


You will only make noise as usual. Ya'll better start telling your brothers to start packing their loads and return back to your villages. You will not become president in 2023 and NOTHING will happen.

nokatakata:


Olofo! The SW is stealing which nonsense oil form Niger delta. Abi your akpu blocked brain no let you know say ondo na oil producing state.

proeast:


Let me address your own points respectively

1. Igbos are not threatening anyone, at least we aren't saying we are going to kill anyone or to set Nigeria on fire. Rather, it is a promise. Telling Nigerians that we will chart our own course where we will have our dignity is not a threat. We have the right to self determination.

2. Having a secession clause in the Constitution or not doesn't change anything in the long run. We have the numbers and global spread to bring Nigeria to its knees. At the moment, the percentage of Igbos asking for Biafra is not up 30% yet Nigeria is feeling the pressure, then imagine what will happen when up to 80% of us become passionate about it. Igbos make up the highest number of Nigerians abroad and if they form a critical mass against Nigeria, the result will be devastating on our corporate image. Also, we have influential personalities in strategic places globally that could help us dismantle Nigeria. Nigeria is a very weak country and it would be gone once the US and UN are convinced to break it.

Ogalanyachieze:
And who even told you that it was a crime to want out of nigeria if ur out of power. The north did it in araba riots. When they said they can't be in a country ruled by igbos. And after abiola lost his mandate the west started what is now known as abiola riots and wanted out of nigeria so how is that a crime to want to be part of the leadership of ur country from time to time oh so you still remember what happened at the civil war yet you want igbos to forget the war. And move on. U are mad

proeast:


I don't understand what you mean by Yorubas playing their game well. In 1993, Abiola won an election that was considered to be free and fair, but instead of allowing him to rule, the North used the military to frustrate him. He was eventually killed in prison, same as his wife. That was obviously a bad thing and the North realized that was an injustice. In order to pacify the Yorubas, it was decided that in the best interest of Nigeria, and for peace to reign, the presidency should go to the SW. Is there any special thing the Yorubas did?

They were agrieved and rightly so, and were pacified with Obasanjo presidency.

At the moment, the Igbos are agrieved in Nigeria, and we have every reason to be. Anybody who is not evil-minded knows that too. Had it been the Igbos are a minor group, Nigeria would have got away with it, but we are talking about a major ethnic group here!

Anyone who is observant can clearly see that Nigeria is a very sick country, and it can't survive a major shake-up considering how disorganized it is already. The country is gradually breaking up and injustice against the Igbos is fueling it. The only sensible thing to do now is to look for ways to convince us to stay with Nigeria.

hollah123:
so it was when u lost power that u lost faith in Nigeria,but if u are still in power u will never lose faith in Nigeria?
when it was time for election,Biafra agitation died down cos u believed u have a chance even Nnamdi Kanu instructed u to vote Atiku but when u failed again u embrace Biafra......now it's crystal clear your Biafra is just a blackmail n propaganda tool to get power.

u better learn how to play politics n understand d game

Nobody joined forces to bring Igbos down,Igbos brought themselves down with greed n political myopia...we still remember what happened during the civil war n how Igbos could b dangerous with power....we also saw how u turned GEJ against people that voted him in n make him an Igbo man at d expense of others,we all abandoned u n your sinking ship (GEJ) n we moved to greater things.

Thank God for Nnamdi Kanu,he made us know d mind of Ann Igbo man towards others,now people see d bile in u n it will b very hard to trust a known bile filled man with power....u are d ones that play politics of hate n they are giving it to u back,even GEJ have moved on but y people refused to move on,always insulting d Yorubas n hausas at will.

By 2023,Yorubas will b president with an Hausa VP n a south south senate President n Igbos can continue their wailing

chrisblack:
start by having an open mind to other's.Not all your rantings on how you are going to kill the zoo. Stop the open show of hatred towards other tribes across the nation. Then calm down