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Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 8:55pm On Aug 16
MuttleyLaff:
"Only I can tell you the future before it even happens.
(i.e. I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come)
Everything I plan will come to pass, for I do whatever I wish.
(i.e. I say, 'My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please)
"
- Isaiah 46:10

Omniscience is not beans. Isaiah 46:10 above is straight from the Horse mouth. Just knowing an iceberg tip of God, makes you want to think that, God is a God of dread
Wow! Nice scripture.
So, Does God know if I will end up in heaven or Hell?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 9:01pm On Aug 16
Maximus69:

Of course nothing can stop his good plans so we can say he knows what he has in stock for obedient mankind {Jeremiah 29:11} that's the future! smiley
So, I believe you are implying that God knows the future.
My eternal destination is something that is part of what we call "the future"... So, I should ask you;
Does God know if I will go to hell (in this case, I mean eternal death) or Spend my eternity in the new earth?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by DappaD: 9:06pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:

Wow! Nice scripture.
So, Does God know if I will end up in heaven or Hell ?

You quite know my stand on those two subjects up there. Let me rephrase the question for you.

Blabbermouth : Does God know whether I will gain everlasting life or remain inexistent forever?

I presume this should be what you mean?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 9:09pm On Aug 16
DappaD:
Well, as Jehovah's Witnesses we see ourselves as the only worshipers of our God Jehovah.

That said...

Your question ‘Does God know the future?’ is very broad. It would be better if you could narrow it down a bit.

On the words you bolded yourself, let me get some things straight.

1. Do you mean if He can foretell the future to give his servants a glimpse/hope of the future?

OR

2. Do you mean if He uses foreordination/foreknowledge all the time? Even regards details of the birth and death of all intelligent creatures(humans) from Adam until now?
"17The LORD answered Moses, "I will do what you have asked, because I am pleased with you, and I know you by name."
18Then Moses said, "Please let me see your glory."
19The LORD said, "I will let all my goodness pass in front of you, and there I will call out my name 'the LORD.' I will be kind to anyone I want to. I will be merciful to anyone I want to.
20But you can't see my face, because no one may see me and live."
21Then the LORD said, "Look, there's a place near me. Stand by this rocky cliff.
22When my glory passes by, I will put you in a crevice in the cliff and cover you with my hand until I have passed by.
23Then I will take my hand away, and you'll see my back, but my face must not be seen.
"
- Exodus 33:17-23

Two things, God never absolutely reveals to men on this short side of eternity, they namely are: His name and the future or metaphorically, future referred to as His Face or His Glory. As we can see from Exodus 33:17-23 above, how Moses tried to see the future, but was compensated with seeing the past and history. It was the same Moses and Jacob earlier who asked what God's name is but were denied with a question, asking why they wanted to know (i.e. Genesis 32:27 and Exodus 3:14)

Of course, God reveals the future, just as He told Abram/Abraham that through his seed, the whole wide world hood will be blessed, that his descendants will inherit the land of Canaan aka the Proimised land and that they will be as strangers be enslaved for 400 years et cetera


Blabbermouth:
Yes, that's part of my question. Also...
2. Does God where I will spend my eternity? Eternal life in earth/heaven or Eternal death.
Affirmative. Of course, God knows where you''ll be spending your eternity, but it does NOT stop any of the plan and work of God. Wherever you end up, it is a right you have that you should be allowed to exist, whether for a short while on earth or for a long time

There are more than just eternity/eternal existence but the explaining the details are out of scope of the thread's limit and would end up being info overload
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 9:10pm On Aug 16
DappaD:


You quite know my stand on those two subjects up there. Let me rephrase the question for you.

Blabbermouth : Does God know whether I will gain everlasting life or remain inexistent forever?

I presume this should be what you mean?


Yes, you are right.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Nobody: 9:12pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:

So, I believe you are implying that God knows the future.
My eternal destination is something that is part of what we call "the future"... So, I should ask you;
Does God know if I will go to hell (in this case, I mean eternal death) or Spend my eternity in the new earth?

That largely depends on what you choose to become now!

He has set before you his program, it's left for you to choose whether you will be part of the blessed or damned! Deuteronomy 30:19 compare to Zephaniah 2:2-3

According to Jesus, God will become your father if you choose to do his will (work your goals in line with his plans) and all the blessings he kept in stock for his blessed ones will be your lot in the future! Matthew 7:21
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by DappaD: 9:14pm On Aug 16
MuttleyLaff:
17The LORD answered Moses, "I will do what you have asked, because I am pleased with you, and I know you by name."
18Then Moses said, "Please let me see your glory."
19The LORD said, "I will let all my goodness pass in front of you, and there I will call out my name 'the LORD.' I will be kind to anyone I want to. I will be merciful to anyone I want to.
20But you can't see my face, because no one may see me and live."
21Then the LORD said, "Look, there's a place near me. Stand by this rocky cliff.
22When my glory passes by, I will put you in a crevice in the cliff and cover you with my hand until I have passed by.
23Then I will take my hand away, and you'll see my back, but my face must not be seen."
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Two things, God never absolutely reveals to men on this short side of eternity, they namely are: His name and the future or metaphorically referred to as His Face or His Glory.

Of course, God reveals the future, just as He told Abram/Abraham that through his seed, the whole wide world hood will be blessed, that his descendants will inherit the land of Canaan aka the Proimised land and that they will be as strangers be enslaved for 400 years et cetera



Affirmative. Of course, God know where you''ll be spending your eternity, but it does stop any of the plan and work of God. Wherever you end up, it is a right you have that you should be allowed to exist, whether for a short while on earth or for a long time

There are more than just eternity/eternal existence but the explaining the details are out of scope of the thread's limit and would end up being info overload


I don't think I'm the ones asking the questions here.


On the bolded, I disagree with you a 100%.
But in time we will get to discussing that.

For now though, I intend to understand OP's question the simplest way I can.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 9:16pm On Aug 16
Janosky's got clamped by the bot
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 9:17pm On Aug 16
Maximus69:


That largely depends on what you choose to become now!

He has set before you his program, it's left for you to choose whether you will be part of the blessed or damned! Deuteronomy 30:19 compare to Zephaniah 2:2-3

According to Jesus, God will become your father if you choose to do his will (work your goals in line with his plans) and all the blessings he kept in stock for his blessed ones will be your lot in the future! Matthew 7:21
Sir, it's either He knows or He does not know, which one is it? If where I will end up largely depends on me, that technically implies that He does not know where I will end up.
What's your take?

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Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Nobody: 9:20pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:

Sir, it's either He knows or He does not know, which one is it? If where I will end up largely depends on me, that technically implies that He does not know where I will end up.
What's your take?

He will never decide that, he has informed us on his own part, it's left for each of us to play our own part! Galatians 6:5 wink
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 9:20pm On Aug 16
DappaD:
I don't think I'm the ones asking the questions here.
I was addressing the "Do you mean if He can foretell the future to give his servants a glimpse/hope of the future" with how God revealed the future to Abram/Abraham, I careless if anyone or who asked the question or not

DappaD:
On the bolded, I disagree with you a 100%.
But in time we will get to discussing that.
The typo error and/or omission, has been corrected to:
"Of course, God knows where you''ll be spending your eternity, but it does NOT stop any of the plan and work of God. Wherever you end up, it is a right you have that you should be allowed to exist, whether for a short while on earth or for a long time"


DappaD:
For now though, I intend to understand OP's question the simplest way I can.
I wouldn't also recommend you punch above your weight anyway
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 9:26pm On Aug 16
MuttleyLaff:
"17The LORD answered Moses, "I will do what you have asked, because I am pleased with you, and I know you by name."
18Then Moses said, "Please let me see your glory."
19The LORD said, "I will let all my goodness pass in front of you, and there I will call out my name 'the LORD.' I will be kind to anyone I want to. I will be merciful to anyone I want to.
20But you can't see my face, because no one may see me and live."
21Then the LORD said, "Look, there's a place near me. Stand by this rocky cliff.
22When my glory passes by, I will put you in a crevice in the cliff and cover you with my hand until I have passed by.
23Then I will take my hand away, and you'll see my back, but my face must not be seen.
"
- Exodus 33:17-23

Two things, God never absolutely reveals to men on this short side of eternity, they namely are: His name and the future or metaphorically, future referred to as His Face or His Glory. As we can see from Exodus 33:17-23 above, how Moses tried to see the future, but was compensated with seeing the past and history. It was the same Moses and Jacob earlier who asked what God's name is but were denied with a question, asking why they wanted to know (i.e. Genesis 32:27 and Exodus 3:14)

Of course, God reveals the future, just as He told Abram/Abraham that through his seed, the whole wide world hood will be blessed, that his descendants will inherit the land of Canaan aka the Proimised land and that they will be as strangers be enslaved for 400 years et cetera

In the preceeding paragraph you said God will never show you the future. In the succeeding paragraph you said God told Abraham his future. Aren't you contradicting yourself?

MuttleyLaff:

Affirmative. Of course, God knows where you''ll be spending your eternity, but it does NOT stop any of the plan and work of God. Wherever you end up, it is a right you have that you should be allowed to exist, whether for a short while on earth or for a long time

Wow! Let me use myself as a case study;
If God knows I will end up in Hell , who predestined that I will end up in Hell?
Was it God or is it the innocent ME?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 9:28pm On Aug 16
Maximus69:


He will never decide that, he has informed us on his own part, it's left for each of us to play our own part! Galatians 6:5 wink
That means you believe God does not know where I will end up.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by DappaD: 9:29pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:

Yes, you are right.

Okay. Understood now.

I'll posit my question first, before answering yours.

All I need is a Yes/No answer before I proceed.


Are you among those who believe in DESTINY? i.e. the so-called divine set-out plan for a person by God?

I'm asking because so-called Christians and most of the world populace believe in this concept of destiny.

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Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 9:32pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:
Sir, it's either He knows or He does not know, which one is it? If where I will end up largely depends on me, that technically implies that He does not know where I will end up.
What's your take?
Did you understand what "know the end from the beginning" means and implies, hmm?

What make you think that God doesnt beforehand know what in the next 5 minutes you'll be doing next, huh? What do you take God for. What does God mean to you? How do you see God. Do you see God has losing control? Or He is never all time in control? He has lost the plot? Is He incapable, inefficient, and inept? Or maybe He hasn't a clue what He is doing? What really is your grievance my dear friend. What is bugging you?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Nobody: 9:33pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:

That means you believe God does not know where I will end up.

Your future is in your own hands not God's hands because his own plan is certain {Isaiah 55:10-11} it's your right now to predict your own future! smiley
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 9:36pm On Aug 16
Maximus69:


Your future is in your own hands not God's hands because his own plan is certain {Isaiah 55:10-11} it's your right now to predict your own future! smiley
From your standpoint, God does not know the future (Or at the very least, My future!)
Sir Maximus69, is the above your conclusion?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 9:38pm On Aug 16
DappaD:


Okay. Understood now.

I'll posit my question first, before answering yours.

All I need is a Yes/No answer before I proceed.
Sir, just take it as I don't know much.
Please do justice to my question.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 9:41pm On Aug 16
MuttleyLaff:
[size=12pt]Did you understand what "know the end from the beginning" means and implies, hmm?

What is bugging you?
I want to know the answer to this question; Does God know if I will end up in Heaven or Hell?
If he knows, I want to know who predetermined "Hell" or " Heaven" for me.
Sir MuttleyLaff, Who predetermined that I will end up in "hell"?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 9:45pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:
In the preceeding paragraph you said God will never show you the future. In the succeeding paragraph you said God told Abraham his future. Aren't you contradicting yourself?
Smh. so you want to tell me that you dont know what difference "absolute" means when I used that as my starting off point, hmm?

Blabbermouth:
Wow! Let me use myself as a case study;
If God knows I will end up in Hell, who predestined that I will end up in Hell?
Was it God or is it the innocent ME?
Smh. Before you were conceived and even born from your mother womb, God had already before you being on the board, had experienced every move on the board until the end that you've made. He has seen all your blunders, your silly moves, your suicidal move, your check mate yourself moves, but still allows you to comes into existence because creativity should never be aborted, killed off, truncated, stifled et cetera. You are part of the Godhead's creative energy, and no matter where you are going to end up, you have creative rights to exist so to express yourself, equipped with freewill. I won't go further on than here, bar you lead me to shed more light
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by haddeylium(m): 9:46pm On Aug 16
I feel attracted to the question...
I don't know if I'm allowed to jump on it?
I'm doing that anyway....loll

Answers to God know knowing the future is broad but with the OP replies to others that commented....I think he's interested in if God foreknowedd or predestined humans acts..

Since God granted us freewill, it wouldn't have been genuine if he knows the outcome of our life course

Someone quoted (Is-46:10)- Truly God has the power to foreknow an even and it course as with regards to the prophesy he gave. But, the Bible teaches that God is selective when it comes to foreknowing things
Example is what happened in Sodom and gomorah...their wickedness then
The quoted verse said
"I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” (Ge18:20-22; 19:1). He even had to sent his angel to confirm and know what happened. And other examples like that
So,Selective foreknowledge means that God could choose not to foreknow indiscriminately all the future acts of his creatures.

God presented the prospect of everlasting life to everybody and it's attainable, just like through Moses to the isrealite
God's word is again saying;
“I have put life and death before you, . . . and you must choose life . . . by loving Jehovah your God, by listening to his voice and by sticking to him; for he is your life and the length of your days.” (Deuteronomy 30:19, 20)(nwt)
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 9:59pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:
I want to know the answer to this question; Does God know if I will end up in Heaven or Hell?
If he knows, I want to know who predetermined "Hell" or "Heaven" for me.
Sir MuttleyLaff, Who predetermined that I will end up in "hell"?
Sir Blabbermouth, if before you, I had watched a behind closed full time football match between Man United and Arsenal football club and knew the final score, but you, say, two hours later, came to watch a recorded version of the same match. Would you say that since I had earlier watched the match live, that, as far as you are concerned, then the score line or the final result of the game was predetermined, hmm?

Sir Blabbermouth, there is a Joseph de Maistre saying that goes like this: "Every nation gets the government it deserves" Wherever, you end up at, whether the "lake of fire" or the "Kingdom of God/Heaven" is what you deserve

Your problem, is that you dont trust or have faith in God, that is Just, Fair, Trustworthy et cetera not to send an innocent man/woman to "lake of fire" jail. Have you, not noticed how you've skipped not answering any of my questions about what's your estimation of the character and worth of God, hmm?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 10:00pm On Aug 16
MuttleyLaff:

Smh. Before you were conceived and even born from your mother womb, God had already before you being on the board, and experienced every move on the board until the end that you've made. He has seen all your blunders, your silly moves, your suicidal move, your check mate yourself moves, but still allows you to comes into existence because creativity should never be aborted, killed off, truncated, stifled et cetera. You are part of the Godhead's creative energy, and no matter where you are going to end up, you have creative rights to exist so to express yourself, equipped with freewill. I won't go further on than here, bar you lead to shed more light
From your response, I deduced that you believe that it is God himself that predestined where I will end up and he allowed me to exist for a while in order to showcase his creativity, that's a very bitter sweet. Let's see this together, shall we?
2Peter 3:9 - "... But is (The Lord is) patient towards us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance
How can this Loving God that doesn't want me to perish also decided to predestine innocent Blabbermouth for hell? Paul was clear, God does not want me to perish!!!
Fortunately and unfortunately, it's either you are wrong or Apostle Paul is wrong.
Perhaps I was a bit forward. Will you do justice to bridge the notion that God predestined hell for me with the fact that God doesn't want me to perish?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 10:06pm On Aug 16
MuttleyLaff:
[size=12pt]Sir Blabbermouth, if before you I had watched a behind closed full time football match between Man United and Arsenal football club and knew the final score, but you, say, two hours later, came to watch a recorded version of the same match. Would you say that since I had earlier watched the match live, that, as far as you are concerned, then the score line or the final result of the game was predetermined, hmm?
Using this scenario, the final result of the game has already been determined by the match itself!
In my case, I haven't played any match (I'm yet to exist) , so if there was a casette/ movie of me pre-doing all the things I'm doing right now and all the things I'm yet to do, the big question is; Who directed the Movie?
Is it God or the yet-to-exist ME?

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Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 10:14pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:
From your response, I deduced that you believe that it is God himself that predestined where I will end up and he allowed me to exist for a while in order to showcase his creativity, that's a very bitter sweet.
Did you read the Man United and Arsenal illustration above, and understood it, because you've now switched from "predetermined" to "predestination", hmm?

Blabbermouth:
Let's see this together, shall we?
2Peter 3:9 - "... But is (The Lord is) patient towards us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance
How can this Loving God that doesn't want me to perish also decided to predestine innocent Blabbermouth for hell? Paul was clear, God does not want me to perish!!!
Do you think God isn't patient? That God isn't long-suffering in silence? How you really doubt the love of God, hmm? Do you see God as an ogre, sadist or psychopath hmm?

Are you aware of what God Himself did so that you would be reconciled, redeemed and saved back to Him., hmm?. Do you know what God has made available to assist you to every moment become a better person huh? Please dont let ignorance, bereft of good, correct and full knowledge get the better of you


Blabbermouth:
Fortunately and unfortunately, it's either you are wrong or Apostle Paul is wrong.
Perhaps I was a bit forward. Will you do justice to bridge the notion that God predestined hell for me with the fact that God doesn't want me to perish?
I will refer you again to go review the above earlier Man United and Arsenal football match illustration
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 10:14pm On Aug 16
haddeylium:
I feel attracted to the question...
I don't know if I'm allowed to jump on it?
I'm doing that anyway....loll

Answers to God know knowing the future is broad but with the OP replies to others that commented....I think he's interested in if God foreknowedd or predestined humans acts..

Since God granted us freewill, it wouldn't have been genuine if he knows the outcome of our life course

Someone quoted (Is-46:10)- Truly God has the power to foreknow an even and it course as with regards to the prophesy he gave. But, the Bible teaches that God is selective when it comes to foreknowing things
Nice. But you see, the idea of selective foreknowledge does not solve the puzzle. That I choose not to know if my son is doing well at school or not, does not mean he isn't actually failing his Algebra.
Even if He decides to not know where I will end up, the question is still valid; Does God know where I will spend my eternity?
If he knows, who predestined where I will end up?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You might want to say that God does not know where I will end up because he chose not to know ... That would automatically paint a scenario where there is kind of like a book in God's library that contains where everyone will end up. So, God is technically restraining himself from opening the book to see where Blabbermouth and haddeylium will end up. Even if it were so, this begs the question;
Who wrote that book/predetermined my eternal destination?
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Blabbermouth: 10:20pm On Aug 16
MuttleyLaff:
Did you read the Man United and Arsenal illustration above, and understood it, because you've now switched from "predetermined" to "predestination", hmm?
In this case, I see them to be the same.

MuttleyLaff:

Do you think God isn't patient? That God isn't long-suffering in silence? How you really doubt the love of God, hmm? Do you see God as an ogre, sadist or psychopath hmm?

Are you aware of what God Himself did so that you would be reconciled, redeemed and saved back to Him., hmm?. Do you know what God has made available to assist you to every moment become a better person huh? Please dont let ignorance, bereft of good, correct and full knowledge get the better of you

I know God is longsuffering. Yeah I have no contradiction with God being patient... It's the last part of the verse that is the koko; "God does not want me to perish" ... How will the same God that doesn't want me to perish also be the one to predestine/predetermine hell fire for me?

MuttleyLaff:

I will refer you again to go review the above earlier Man United and Arsenal football match illustration
I've given a suitable response to your football match illustration.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by DappaD: 10:32pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:

Sir, just take it as I don't know much.
Please do justice to my question.

Very well then.

Jehovah God applies his ability of foreknowledge to foreknow and foreordain events of salvation and deliverance, as well as acts of judgment and punishment, and then to bring such events to fulfillment. Isaiah 45:21, 55:10,11
He dispenses such knowledge about these future events to his prophets which we find in the Bible. (Isaiah 42:9, Amos 3:7)
Events such as the coming of the great Flood, destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, the entrance of the Israelites into the Promised Land, the destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians, the destruction and desolation of Babylon, the return of the Jews from Babylonian exile and other events such as these were ALL foretold by God that such would happen and they also had their fulfillment (Genesis 6:17/7:11, 19:13-15/24-25, Jeremiah 50:45,51:11,Isaiah 13:17, 21:9//Daniel 5:30, Jeremiah 24:6,29:10-11/Ezra 2:1).
There are also prophecies that we are awaiting to be fulfilled in the future (Psalm 37:10,11,29, Isaiah 25:8,33:24,35:5-7, John 5:28,29/Acts 24:15, 1Corinthians 15:26, 2Peter 3:13, Revelation 21:1-4)

But if you notice here, these prophecies affect people on a general scale and not individually. So yes, God has the ability to foretell the future in accordance with his will for his people in general. In our day, the prophecies about the future will affect mankind in general.


How about on an individual level? Is there any set-out plan by God for every individual? Apparently not, because we are all free moral agents and if it were so then that would mean that God shows favouritism or is impartial. But the Scriptures help us to know that Jehovah God is not partial. See Job 34:19, Acts 10:34,35, Romans 2:11, Ephesians 6:9
So he does not predestine the fate of every individual for that would mean he is impartial.
In general, Jehovah's will for humans is for them to be know the truth, be saved and have everlasting life (John 17:3, 1Timothy 2:4, 2Peter 3:9)
He desires for the wicked and rebellious humans to change from their wicked ways and choose the good life (Ezekiel 33:11)
So as you can see yourself, nothing from the Scriptures support predestinarianism i.e. the belief that all humans have the fate already decided by God.


Since we were created with free will and weren't programmed like robots, God has also given us the freedom to decide what we want for ourselves as intelligent creatures.
If he wants to pry into our personal dealings and our future, that would sadden his heart because the hearts of mortal men is filled with wicked things (Genesis 6:5-6, Psalm 78:40,41). So Jehovah decides to refrain from knowing such things so as to remain the happy God! smiley – 1Timothy 1:11
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by Truvel(m): 10:36pm On Aug 16
Argueing With An Atheist Is A Waste Of Time.
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 10:42pm On Aug 16
Blabbermouth:
Using this scenario, the final result of the game has already been determined by the match itself!
In my case, I haven't played any match (I'm yet to exist), so if there was a casette/movie of me pre-doing all the things I'm doing right now and all the things I'm yet to do, the big question is; Who directed the Movie?
Is it God or the yet-to-exist ME?
Using the scenario, and filling in the blanks, as in meaning, God watched the behind closed full time football match between Man United and Arsenal football club and knew the final score. Eleven guys in your neighbourhood were in the Arsenal team while eleven other guys from adjacent neighbourhood were in the Man United team played the full 90 minutes of the game with an end score or final result of 2-0 in favour of Arsenal. Now, God that watched the football game live before you knows the outcome of the game, but if He were to tell you the results He has foreknown before you get to watch a recorded play of the match, are you going to say, God predetermined/predestined the outcome of match, when knowing fully well that the outcome was as a result of the performances of and efforts put in by the 25 men on the pitch, including the two lines-persons and referee

You're on a world stage, carrying out various acts. God directs the affairs of men, as Psalm 37:23 states that: "A person's steps are directed by the LORD, and the LORD delights in his way." Notice that the caveat is that when God delights in the man'/woman's way. There are many verses like or similar to import of Psalm 37:23

I sense that haddeylium is coming from a JW influence, background and indoctrination
Re: Does God Really Know The Future? by MuttleyLaff: 10:46pm On Aug 16
DappaD:
Okay. Understood now.

I'll posit my question first, before answering yours.

All I need is a Yes/No answer before I proceed.
Are you among those who believe in DESTINY? i.e. the so-called divine set-out plan for a person by God?

I'm asking because so-called Christians and most of the world populace believe in this concept of destiny

Blabbermouth:
Sir, just take it as I don't know much.
Please do justice to my question.
Just answer his question with a binary, Yes or No please and quit dilly dallying delaying

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