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The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 4:19pm On Aug 30, 2020
Ogiamien Vs Oba Of Benin

By Comrade Osaigbovo Osadolo

The Binis and the entire world are anxiously waiting to know what is going to happen on that day; will the Appeal Court sitting in Benin City rule in favour of the Oba palace thereby empowering them to go ahead install and perform the coronation of the new Oba of Benin Kingdom without recourse to the Great Ogiamien Royal Family, or uphold the historical submission of the Great Ogiamien Royal Family before it saying that without them there can never be an Oba of Benin? If the Pendulum goes in favour of the Great Ogiamien Royal Family, it means that all the illegal efforts being made by the Oba Palace to install and perform the coronation of the Crown Prince HRH Eheneden Erediauwa as the 39th Oba of Benin Kingdom which is a glare violation of the Appeal Court ruling to maintain statusquo till the 20th September 2016 will be an exercise in futility. That will certainly ridicule and bring disgrace to the Oba Palace more especially as they have sent out invitations to many important dignitaries all over the world to come for the event on the 26th April, 2016 which has just been shifted to the 18th of October 2016 as against the Court ruling.

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Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 4:21pm On Aug 30, 2020
What is happening now in Benin Kingdom as regards the Oba of Benin Stool is strange and difficult for many to comprehend. This is the first time in the history of Benin Kingdom that the death, burial of an Oba together with the installation and coronation of a new Oba is conducted with utmost secrecy, the processes many Binis believed are against the customs and tradition of the Bini people.
For example the late Benin Kingdom Monarch Oba Erediauwa was said to have gone into coma in September 2014 and finally joined his ancestors in January 2015, the matter was kept secret until recently, the situation which is against the culture, customs and traditions of the Benin Kingdom. The way and manner with which the burial was also conducted is nothing to write home about. The proposed installation and coronation of the Crowned Prince as the 39th Oba of Benin Kingdom is also being conducted in a manner which many people are not too happy with.
At a point, the Governor of Edo State Comrade Adams Oshiomhole in attempt to use the instruments and machineries of the state to circumvent the memorable Ekiokpagha Treaty which MUST be traditionally administered by the Great Ogiamien Royal Family, as the traditional landlord cum owner of Bini and the Oba lessor messed up the coronation process and gave a letter appointing the Crowned Prince as the 39th Oba of Benin Kingdom and withdrew the same letter within 24 hours. Even against the Appeal Court ruling, they went ahead and initially fixed the coronation on 26th September, 2016 and again on the 11th September, they have shifted it to 18th October, 2016. This is really abnormal. Never in the history of Benin, the installation and coronation of the Oba of Benin is handled with such levity and I dont care attitude. All these according to many people are becoming so funny and childish.

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Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 4:23pm On Aug 30, 2020
Another issue that is compounding the matter the more is the traditional war between the great Ogiamien Royal Family and the Oba Palace which has opened up many hidden secrets. Since last year, both royal families have been on media war using both the local and national media to throw mud at each other. The messages coming out of this media war, has been so informative and educative. Binis have really learnt a lot. While writing this article, all efforts to get the Public Relations Officers of both Ogiamien Royal Family High Chief Esotericist Monday Wehere JP who is said to be shuttling Abuja, Port Harcourt and Benin City on one hand and that of Oba Palace Mr. Frank Irabor on the another hand to speak with them have proved abortive, but according to what I can gleaned from the numerous publications made so far by both royal families, the issue at stake is not as easy as many people think. The decision of the Justices of Appeal Court in Benin on the 26th September, 2016 will determine the true position of the great Ogiamien Royal Family and the relationship between the great Ogiamien Royal Family and the Oba Palace.
From the publications I have read so far, the crisis between the Great Ogiamien Royal Family and the Oba Palace started with the arrest and detention of the current Ogiamien of Utantan, Prince Arisco Osemwengie JP with his younger brother Chief Patrick Osabohien, The Oliha of Utantan through a petition written by the Oba Palace claiming that the Ogiamien Royal Family violated the customs, traditions of Benin Kingdom by installing and performing the coronation of Ogiamien Arisco as the Ogiamien of Utantan without recourse to them stating further that Ogiamien is a Chief under the Oba of Benin. The Oba Palace used the instruments of the state and machineries made it difficult for the Ogiamien Royal Family to bail their King and his brother from Oko Prison, but the family worked very hard and released their King from Oko Prison without begging the Governor of Edo State and the Benin Traditional Council.
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 4:24pm On Aug 30, 2020
This was the first and major victory of the Great Ogiamien Royal Family against the Oba Palace.
For the avoidance of doubt, EVIAN is the father of OGIAMIEN. He ruled Igodomigodo for 40 years as Ogiso before handing over to his son OGIAMIEN. Put in other words, OGIAMIEN is the same thing as EVIAN.
Before the arrest and detention of Ogiamien Arisco, as far back as June 2015, in their in-house publication titled Ogiamien Trumpet in Volume 1 No 1 June 3-16th 2015, the great Ogiamien Royal Family sent out a strong signal to the Benin Traditional Council warning it to stop distorting Evian History and vowed to put the records straight; frowning at what they described as the deliberate attempts by the “Benin Traditional Council to continue to undermine, omit Evian reign in the history of Bini promising to stop the distortion and put the records straight for posterity.
Continuing: Ogiso Owodo was the last ruler of Benin Kingdom and Owodo and Evian are of the same father. History has it that they were born by Ogiso Arigho and he was the last ruler of Benin Kingdom before Ogiso Owodo.
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 4:25pm On Aug 30, 2020
On Volume 1 No 2 July 13th 2015, they also gave reasons why any Evian: Uzama, Ogiamien and Oliha children cannot kneel down before the Oba of Benin describing it as a taboo, historical, sacrilege and sacrosanct. Now for the avoidance of doubt too, Uzama, Ogiamien and Oliha were the 3 children of OGISO EVIAN.
Also on Volume 1 No 3 August 3rd 2015, in the interview granted to one of their illustrious sons an international scholar based in the United States Professor Tony Ogiamien when asked whether Ogiso Owodo had a child, he said emphatically: “No! No!! No!!! I have seen and read of such history but that is not correct. That history is completely wrong. The last Ogiso was Ogiso Owodo. He has no child at all… That is not correct at all. Owodo has not child. Please quote me. When Owodo was banished to exile for killing the pregnant woman, Evian his younger brother a man of many talents, a mystic, craftsman, a herbalist, an astrologer, any areas you call him he was always available to and he will do it perfectly. All these actually endeared him to the Binis to make him rule them, when his elder brother same father and same mother that is the last Ogiso Owodo was banished. So when he was old he decided to nominate his son to take over from him after ruling for 40 years. To me based on the research I have personally done, the story of Ekaladerhan is mainly oral. There are discrepancies on this issue when you read various historical accounts
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 4:26pm On Aug 30, 2020
When he was further asked his stake on the notion that the Yorubas migrated from Benin, he screamed again: No! No! No!!! That one has been settled. It cannot be. That history is not correct at all. See the Yoruba Empire has been in existence for so long after the Songhai Empire, before the Utman Danfodio war, there was an Oyo empire. The Oyo Empire had long developed even before the Bini Empire became visible. No doubt the Binis existed but we were neighbouring country next to the Oyo Empire. We do not even have the population of the Yorubas as at that time that was why they were able to over power the reigning Ogiamien then and took over from him. This is where we really have problem in Bini history. The Yorubas, repeat, the Yorubas did not migrate from Bini Empire. Whoever is saying so does not know the history properly he noted.
The edition that broke the camels back was the very edition where Ogiamien Arisco and the Okagbe Nokhua of the Great Ogiamien Royal Family Prince Pa Sunday Emokpae were granted different exclusive interviews that appeared in Volume 1 No 4 August 21st 2015. Ogiamien Arisco said: We are not interested in the title of Oba of Benin because Ogiamien Title is Higher noting further that We own the Bini land. Our focus is how to liberate the Ogiamiens and the Binis from the Political and Economic slavery foist on us by the Oba of Benin”.
Many Binis were shocked to read this in the Ogiamien Trumpet.
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by gregyboy(m): 4:57pm On Aug 30, 2020
Yoruba wants to make our our yoruba since 300bc, why not kidnap him, and forcefully place your Yoruba in the benin palace

Since the false history is not working well
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 5:10pm On Aug 30, 2020
In that same publication Ogiamien Arisco revealed that the great Ogiamien Royal Family wrote to the Governor of Edo State and the Crowned Prince in the month of July 2015 and made some specific demands.
Referring to the provision of the Memorable Ekiokpagha Treaty and the demands made to Edo State Governor, he said: As at today Your Excellency, either traditionally, politically or otherwise no event has changed the terms of the treaty at Ekiokpagha and we believe strongly that this is the appropriate time for us to demand what is due to the Ogiamien Royal Family in line with history and tradition.
“Your Excellency, the present Benin Traditional Council consists of seven Local Government Areas of Edo State and is made up of these Local Government Areas to wit:
(i) Oredo Local Government Area
(ii) Egor Local Government Area
(iii) Ikpoba-Okha Local Government Area
(iv) Ovia South West Local Government Area
(v) Ovia North-East Local Government Area
(vi) Uhunmwode Local Government Area
(vii) Orhionmwon Local Government Area
By the treaty and as at today, the areas over which the Ogiamien has control included the present day Ikpoba-Okha, Orhionmwon, Uhunmwode Local Government Areas and a part of present day Oredo Local Government Area.
Also and by the treaty, the Successors of Eweka, the present day Oba of Benin had control of Egor, Ovia North-East, Ovia South West Local Government Areas and a part of present day Oredo Local Government Area respectively.
This be the case, the Ogiamien Royal Family demands as follows:
(i) That total establishment by the Government of Edo State, a separate Traditional Council for the Ogiamien Royal Family Chieftaincy as contained in the Traditional Rulers and Chiefs Edict No. 37 of 1968 and all other extant laws in this regard.
(ii) The total refund of the amount of money due to the Ogiamien from the Local Government Councils under him from 1968 till date.
(iii) Proper observance of the treaty of Ekiokpagha.
(iv) Direct collection of his royalties from the Local Government Councils under the domain of the Ogiamien.
(v) Recognition of the Ogiamien as a King and not a Chief under the Oba of Benin as the Ogiamien is equal in rank of status with the Oba of Benin (in modern times) if not superior to, because the Ogiamien remains permanently the Obas Lessor.
(vi) That you use your good offices in directing that the royalties due to the Ogiamien be deducted at source and paid to the Ogiamien forthwith. All such payment should be paid into First Bank Account No. 2027724543 in the name of the Great Ogiamien Palace, Utantan Bini Nation.
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 5:11pm On Aug 30, 2020
Your Excellency, it is no doubt that by your present calling that you are the father of this state and it is to you that we can resort to on matter of this magnitude.
Being as this task may seem, we believe that with zeal and the interest to do justice, you will use your good offices in arriving at a truce that will do justice to all sides particularly the Ogiamien who has been robbed of his place in history and put in absolute denial of his traditional rights.
May we not be persuaded by our ancestors to revoke the treaty of Ekiokpagha.
This was the summary of the request made to the governor of Edo State.
They also wrote to the Crowned Prince and made some certain demands as follows:
It is worthy of note that it was not the entire Bini Nation that Ogiamien leased to Eweka or his Successors as it seems today.
Sir, we, have related the above to let you know first hand who should be the proper person between the Ogiamien and the Successors of Eweka, the present Obaship in Benin who ought to be the paramount ruler of the Bini. Is it the landlord who was met on the land or the person to whom he leased a part of the land to which sale is renewable by purchase by any of his Successors?
Not only this, our rulership of Bini suddenly metamorphosed into a mere Chieftaincy title under the Oba of Benin. This we term an abomination as a king cannot reside in the abode of another king Oba gueoba dia.
As this matter bother on custom and practices, we believe it is never too late for this anomaly to be corrected hence after much agitation and by an Order cited as the Recognized Chieftaincies Order, 1968, the provisions of part II of the Chief Law (cap. 19) are applied to the Ogiamien of Benin Chieftaincy.
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 5:14pm On Aug 30, 2020
The order specified that the Benin City Council is hereby designated as the competent Local Government Council in respect of the Ogiamien Chieftaincy. As at today, by the treaty the Areas over which the Ogiamien had control included the present day Ikpoba Okha Local Government Area, Orhionmwon Local Government Area, Uhunmwode Local Government Area and a part of present day Oredo Local Government Area.
By the treaty too the Successors of Eweka the present day Oba of Benin had control of Egor Local Government Area, Ovia North-East Local Government Area, Ovia South West Local Government Area and a part of Oredo Local Government Area respectively.
As at today, no event either traditionally, customarily or politically has changed the terms of the treaty of Ekiokpagha and this be the case, we believe strongly that this is the appropriate time to demand what is due to us based on the agreement reached at Ekiokpagha.
This been the case and wanting to maintain the peaceful co-existence which the treaty of Ekiokpagha signifies, we the descendants of the Great Ogiamien Royal Family hereby demand as follows:
(1) The establishment of a separate Traditional Council for the Ogiamien Kingdom as contained in the Traditional Rulers and Chiefs Edict No. 37 (cap. 19) made at Benin the 7th day of November, 1968.
(2) The total refund of the amount of money due to the great Ogiamien Palace from the three and half Local Government Council Areas in Ogiamiens domain namely Ikpoba-Okha, Orhionmwon, Uhunmwode and part of Oredo Local Government Areas collected by Benin Traditional Council from 1968 2015).
(3) Proper observance of the terms of the treaty of Ekiokpagha. That is, the maintenance of the demarcation line which divided the Bini Nation into two equal parts. While the Ogiamien maintains his Kingdom, the Oba maintains his part of the Kingdom too without interference from both sides on how they preside over their parts from each other.
(4) A review of one of the land lease fees of Ugianmwen to the present day Naira which is N350,000,000.00 (Three Hundred and Fifty Million Naira) only, four persons including a woman, a large drum called the Okha, a flute-Orhu, a cow, and Ukhurhe Staff, Agba and Ere.
(5) Direct collection of his royalties from the Local Government Council Areas under his domain and
(6) Never to refer to the Ogiamien as a Chief under the Oba of Benin as the Ogiamien is equal in rank or status with the Oba of Benin (in modern times) if not superior to the Oba as the Ogiamien is the Obas Lessor.
May we not be persuaded by our ancestors to revoke the treaty of Ekiokpagha, Ogiamien Arisco submitted.
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 5:15pm On Aug 30, 2020
Thereafter this, they installed and performed the coronation of Ogiamien Arisco after meeting all the necessary traditional requirements according to the laws, traditions and customs of the great Ogiamien Royal Family. The event was peacefully and immediately after this he was arrested and detained in Oko Prison for almost two months.
However before the installation of Ogiamien Arisco, the Binis woke up one morning to read in the same Ogiamien Trumpet Volume 1 No 4, how the Okagbe Nokhua of the great Ogiamien Royal Family Prince Pa Sunday Emokpae insulted, lampooned, made caricature and several allegations against the late Oba of Benin the revered late Oba Erediauwa, the Monarch many Binis believed is next to God. This was strange as it has never happened in the history of Bini for any person to talk to Oba of Benin any how.
To the consternation of the Binis and the whole world, Prince Pa Sunday Emokpae said that his ancestors will not forgive Oba Erediauwa, dead or alive, until he corrects all the evil he did to the Ogiamien Royal Family and beg for forgiveness noting that he Oba Erediauwa used government machineries and instruments to impoverish, deny us our rights and relegate Ogiamien to the background. He Oba Erediauwa will not know peace. You can see the way God is dealing with him now. Look at what is happening to him and his immediate family. They are all in shambles. This is the Law of Karma in action. All this is because of the evil he did to us and the Binis by foisting political and economic slavery on us. Our ancestors are not sleeping. Really many Binis up till now are still unable to gather themselves from the shock they received as a result of this.
Supporting the earlier position of Prof. Tony Ogiamien who claimed that the last Ogiso Owodo had no child, Prince Pa Sunday Emokpae retorted: Owodo had no child; it was Oba Erediauwa and his evil group that manufactured that fake story to deceive the gullible Binis. Owodo had no child My ancestors know what I am telling you. The Benin Traditional Council manufactured it to cover up the foreign invasion of Bini Empire by the present Oba of Benin lineage. The Benin monarch is a foreigner in Bini soil. It was Ogiamien who leased some part of Benin land to him.
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 5:16pm On Aug 30, 2020
When he was told of the attempt of the Oba Palace to circumvent the memorable Ekiopagha Treaty, Prince Pa Sunday Emokpae noted: Well, if that is true, then, The Oba of Benin should pack his load and go away because by that they have violated the original agreement had with the Ogiamien in the 12th century AD. Ogiamien leased half part of the Bini land to the Oba Eweka and told him that the Oba son will continue to repurchase that section of the land leased to him. He did not sell it to the Oba forever. It was a leased agreement
Asked whether Ekaladerhan was the son of Ogiso Owodo, he screamed again: No! No!! No!!! No!!!! No!!!!! That is a big lie. Owodo is not the father of Ekaladerhan. The Benin monarch manufactured that lies to secure his position in Benin Kingdom. They are from Yoruba land. The Benin monarch is a son of the Yoruba land. He should stop fabricating lies to deceive himself. Only a fool will believe the Benin monarch. The Benin monarch is a foreigner in Bini soil. Any person who thinks that I am not saying the truth should take me to court. I have enough facts and evidences to tell the whole world that the Oba of Benin is a tenant and a foreigner in Bini soil. I am still alive now, they should take me to court. In the actual sense Egor is the birth home of the Benin Monarch that is if you follow their own history. See the Moat you are still seeing the remnant was spiritually dogged by God to protect the Ogiamien. As at the time the moats were created, we do not have machinery talkess of the human intelligence to dig such big moat around the Ogiamien to give him protection. It was done by God. I am not happy Erediauwa has really messed us up. He just capitalized on the fact that our early fore fathers did not go to school. He threw us into the mess. He used government machineries and instruments to manipulate and relegate us to the background. His father and the previous Obas before Erediauwa to some extent obeyed the provisions of the treaty. Akenzua on his own tried but Erediauwa did not. He did so many evil things against Ogiamien, the family that gave them sustenance. Until Erediauwa corrects all the evil he did to Ogiamien family and apologize to us, he will not know peace. You can see the way God is dealing with him now. Look at what is happening to him and his family. They are all in shambles. All this is because of the evil he did to us and the Binis. Our ancestors are not sleeping”.
Supporting the position of late Ogiamien Obazee whom we are told said many times and that he even sang with it that Owodo had no child! Owodo had no child!! Owodo had no child!!! Prince Pa Sunday Emokpae submitted: Yes, that is true. The issue of Ekaladarhan was created by the Benin Monarch to cover their foreign invasion of Bini Nation. My son, Owodo has no child. I grew up to hear this history that Owodo has no child. Whoever tells you that Owodo had a child is a liar. That story is sponsored and propagated by the Benin Monarch to save them from embarrassment of may be possible sack from Bini by the Ogiamiens. But how long will they continue to hide under Ekaladarhan.
Again, when he was asked after leasing some part of Bini land to Oba Eweka, whether the Ogiamien lose the authority to have control over the landed properties in his domain that is Utantan, he said: No, that was one of the evil things the immediate late Benin Monarch did against us. Before the coming of I think Erediauwa, while the Oba was giving approval for land within his domain Ogiamien was also given the same authority and approval of land within his domain which is Utantan, but the Benin traditional council used government machinery to take that power from the Ogiamien and forcefully bring in Utantan into the Obas authority. This is one of the major evils they did to us. This led to the many problems we are having now. This took away our political, economic and traditional powers and vested them in the Oba with the Ogiamien just floating having no single authority any more in Bini nation.
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 5:17pm On Aug 30, 2020
These publications made a serious impact on the Binis and the entire world that had hitherto believed the Oba of Benin was next to God. It reduced the image and reputation of the Oba of Benin. Since the publications came out many Binis, the international community and Nigerians are now seeing the Oba of Benin and the great Ogiamien Royal Family from a different perspective.
However, immediately after securing the release of their King from Oko Prison, Chief Osamede Adun, a member of Oba Palace called a press conference; in order to repair the damage the Ogiamien Royal Family had done to the reputation of Oba of Benin, he Osamede Adun lampooned the great Ogiamien Royal Family calling them names including slaves.
The Director of Information and External Affairs of the Great Ogiamien Royal Family, High Chief Esotericist Monday Wehere JP whose mother Princess Helen Ogiamien Wehere is a direct scion of the Great Ogiamien Royal Family, in a swift reaction replied Chief Osamede Adun both in the local and national media and this again further opened up many hidden things and damaged the reputation of the Oba of Benin the more.
In his reactions published on Volume 2 No 1 dated January 2016 High Chief Wehere said: there can never be an Oba of Benin without The Great Ogiamien Royal Family noting that The Great Ogiamien Royal Family has a unique and distinct royal position in Bini and in the world map.
According to High Chief Wehere they only installed their own Prince Rich Arisco Osenwemgie JP as the substantive Ogiamien of Utantan-Bini to fill the over 17years old vacant stool stating that the new Ogiamien Osenwemgie has an important role to play in the coronation of a new Oba of Benin.
Continuing: Our own Prince Rich Arisco Osemwengie JP was installed to reposition and restore the lost glories of the silenced, neglected and forgotten The Great Ogiamien Royal Family. The Benin Traditional Council (BTC) should cooperate with us. They should be humble enough to tell the members of BTC and the Binis of the true sacred and uncompromising relationship between The Great Ogiamien Royal Family and the Oba of Benin especially the existence of the Ekiokpagha Treaty which clearly defined the relationship between The Great Ogiamien Royal Family and the Oba of Benin and finally grant us our legitimate demands to stop the further agitation
Explaining the history of the Great Ogiamien Royal Family: Historically what is today known as Bini started as Igodomigodo at about 9th Century AD. The Empire had existed for about 300 years before Oyo Empire through Oramiyan came to attack Ogiso Evian, the father of Ogiamien Erebo the then reigning Kings and forcefully took occupation of a certain portion of Bini land via the Ekiokpagha Treaty.
It was during the reign of Ogiso Erebo that the Ile-Ife came to attack Igodomigodo. Before the attack, Ogiso Evian and Ogiamien Erebo were now the custodians (fathers) of the descendants of all the 32 Ogisos that had ruled Igodomigodo. The truth of the matter is that Owodo has no child and the theory of Ekaladerhan was concocted to cover up the invasion, establish their stay permanently in Bini. This is becoming too glaring now.
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 5:18pm On Aug 30, 2020
The Ekaladerhan theory is an intellectual fraud on the Binis designed by the Benin Traditional Council. It is a long story. But to answer your question directly, Bini is tied to Niger Delta, that is, the greater part of the people of Niger Delta migrated from Bini and this started from 10th century upward. The popular Mass Exodus of Binis to establish other ethnic nationalities especially in the Niger Delta is divided into Five stages namely Pre-Exodus 10th Century; The Main Exodus itself 11th-12th Century, Post-Exodus 13th Century upward, The 14TH Century Era of Imposition of Leadership. And the 19th Century AD Era of Persecution and Witch-hunting.
PRE- EXODUS 10TH CENTURY: This exodus started when information was leaked to some of the strong children and relations of Ogiamien that the Oyo Empire was planning to invade Bini. Ogiso Erebo was holding the Ogiso Ark as at this time, because his father Ogiso Evian was already too old so Ogiso Erebo was the custodian and father of all the descendants of the 32 previous Ogisos. These selected strong children were the main target. The Invading Forces had planned to first assassinate some of the strong children and relations of Ogiso Erebo also known as Ogiamien Erebo in order to have an easy entry into Bini. But before then, as part of their secret strategies, they had secretly sneaked into Igodomigodo and started having sexual affairs with our daughters.
In fact H. Ling Roth, the author of the Great Benin: Its Customs Art and Horrors (1903 p7) actually revealed how the rich Igodomigodo Empire was invaded. Referring to Oramiyan, hear him:
he came with a few men, he came to Benin City; he went softly (slowly) into all the country; if the people were weak he fought with them and caught them; if strong, he talked cunningly with them; and he and his men sat down there and took their daughters to wives
This is to tell you that the invasion was well planned. So when the news got to some of these targeted strong children and relations of Ogiamien Erebo, through our daughters they were having clandestine sexual relationship with, these targeted children secretly traveled through the bush path with the help of their sisters lovers to spy on the Invading Forces and when they saw the level of preparations already made to invade Bini, some of them already targeted for elimination, for safety did not return; they disguised themselves and set up settlement camps thus established other communities Ijaws, over there in the coastal areas along Ondo Rivers, Creeks up to Eko, Etinosa in Lagos State and some neighbouring West African Countries, but they equally sent messages to their fathers Ogiso Evian and Ogiamien Erebo to get ready that an Invading Forces were coming to invade Bini. This group of exodus was not really much, but these were the first group.
THE MAIN MASS EXODUS 11TH 12TH CENTURY: This was the main mass exodus. By 11th century, Oramiyan now finally came to attack Ogiso Evian and Ogiamien Erebo which lasted for some years, but he failed and left. On his way back home with frustration, he intentionally pregnanted Princess Erhinwinde as part of their strategies, who gave him a son that is Oba Eweka I. Oramiyan too had other children from his legitimate wives at Ile-Ife and because Oramiyan had no relationship; with Ekaladerhan, those children never return to Bini. Princess Erhinwinde was the daughter of Enogie Egor who was one of the Enogies under Ogiso Erebo as at the time Oramiyan came to attack Bini. This is another important royal family in Bini warming up for liberation too. Also, they have been silenced, neglected and forgotten. While other of the troops remained behind and continued having clandestine sexual affairs with our daughters to produce more children in preparation for the proper invasion. When Oba Eweka and all those born the same way he was born were grown up many in numbers, they invited them home secretly and there they revealed to them the reasons for their existence. After educating them, they made them took Oat of an allegiance never to betray Oba Eweka and gave them additional armies to continue with the invasion.
Also, Ling Roth, the author of the Great Benin: Its Customs Arts and Horrors (1903 p7) confirms this:
then when they had children, they called their wives and children and returned to this town
Just the way they used clandestine sex to cunningly enter into Bini through the children they got from our daughters, they had to deliberately manufacture some fake stories/theories with the help of hireling historians and scholars to do the hatchet job purposely to cover up their invasion.
Now, let us come back to the invasion which leads to the death of many Binis and the troops of the Invading forces. To stop the carnage, by which time many of the Invading Forces had already advanced into the heart of Bini and settled comfortably at a place in Benin City now called Yoruba quarters, that is the popular Lagos Street, through some of the children they had through illicit sex with our daughters, it was difficult to send them packing so a truce was agreed upon and Bini was divided into two via the Ekiokpagha Treaty: Ogiamien Erebo leased one part to Oba Eweka The First, that portion which is now known as Benin Kingdom while Ogiamien Erebo took the remaining part now known as Utantan, Bini. After Oba Eweka dynasty succeeded in gaining entrance into Bini, via the Ekiokpagha Treaty, many descendants including Princes, and Princess of the previous 32 Ogisos under the custodian of Ogiamien Erebo who was then holding the Ogiso Ark became uncomfortable, felt humiliated and started fleeing. Besides too, some of Ogiamien children, relations, armies trapped on the part leased to Oba Eweka, he Oba Eweka, started killing them secretly and systematically. The children and relations of Ogiamien trapped on the part leased to Oba Eweka and some also on the part belonging to Ogiamien Erebo seeing how Oba Eweka was secretly killing their brethren trapped on the portion leased to Oba Eweka, for fear of reprisal attack on them later, they also joined their brethren fleeing for safety. This is the main popular mass exodus. When I was led in the realm of spirit to see the subtle video clips of their movements, they were just like a refugee. It was really pathetic and I wept. Some ran to Bini North to establish what is today known as Ora, Afema, Owans, Etsakos, Akoko-Edos, Ekperis, Ishans, and Igalas and other ethnic groups along that axis to Kogi, Kwara,and Benue State; Bini West: Ondo, Akotogbo, Owo, Eko, Etinosa in Lagos State and other neighbouring West African Countries, including the Ijaws in the West; Bini East Igbanke, Umunede, Ogwashikwu, Iselukwu, in fact the whole of Ika Ibos up to half of Onitsha in Anambra State; Bini South: Urhobos, Isokos, Itshekiris, Engennis, Ogbas, Ekpeyes, Ikwerres, Nembes, the Ijaws in the South-South, Izon, Ogbia, Epie/Atissa, including the Urhobos, Isokos in Bayelsa State etc, Abua, Degema, Ndoki, Andoni, Kalabari, and so many other ethnic groups not mentioned here even up to Ukwa East in Abia State, Obolo and Ikot Abasi in Akwa Ibom State which are now part of Ijaw Youths Congress (IYC) and Ijaw National Congress (INC). They used Ovia River, Ikpoba River and Ologbo River for their escape routes. Ovia River has links with streams, brooks, and Rivers along the Western part of Edo Bini; Ikpoba River too has linked with some brooks, streams, along the Eastern and Northern part of Bini; while Ologbo River which is 10 minutes drive from Bini has link with Sapele, Warri, through the Creeks to Bayelsa, Rivers and Akwa Ibom States. These were their main escape routes because you cannot survive in any environment without water. During the mass exodus, they left with their close and distance relations both males and females and started procreating. This is why in Niger Delta and outside Bini, sexual relationship with people somehow close and distance relations is not a taboo but is still a taboo up to date in Bini. This was how many communities in Niger Delta were started. Majority of these people are our children. We must reunite with them and they should contact me for the reunion.
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 5:18pm On Aug 30, 2020
POST EXODUS 13TH CENTURY UPWARD: After all the strong Princes, children and relations of Ogiamien Erebo have left, other succeeding Ogiamiens became weak and Oba Eweka dynasty cashed in on this to decimate, silence and unleash intellectual war on The Great Ogiamien Royal Family up to this day; by twisting the history of the Binis especially that of The Great Ogiamien Royal Family upside down in their favour, adopting the policy of expansion, with the help of organized government machineries and instruments, which came into being after the 1914 amalgamation, annexed Utantan, that is Ogiamien territory. As at this time, the remaining few Princes, relations of Ogiamien felt humiliated and started fleeing also.
Oba Eweka should have answered Ogiso Eweka, but he chooses to answer his fathers name Oba Eweka. The renowned author of A Short History of Benin, Jacob Egharevba on p9 recalled:
At his death, Eweka I left a strong order that his remains must be taken to Ife to be buried with his father and this order was carried out accordingly. Since then the remains of the Oba of Benin were taken to Ife
This directive which speaks volumes in African Culture, confirms that Oba Eweka dynasty has no relationship with the Ogiso dynasty. In a nutshell, this confirmed that Oba Eweka is not a Bini man. If he had truly come to ascend his ancestral throne as some hireling historians made us to believe why taken his corpse to Ile-Ife for burial. Please ponder on this. This again confirmed that Owodo had no child and that the theory of Ekaladerhan is actually a hoax to cover up their invasion and establish their stay in Bini.
THE 14TH CENTURY ERA OF IMPOSITION OF LEADERSHIP STRUCTURES:
By this era, the children, relations of Ogiso Evian and Ogiamien Erebo that fled to establish the ethnic nationalities I have just mentioned, for fear that they might regroup to continue with the war, to reclaim the Ogiso Ark, they cunningly and forcefully took from their father Ogiamien Erebo, Oba Eweka dynasty started using government machineries and instruments to impose leadership structures on them, used hireling historians, scholars to start twisting Bini history upside down in favour of Oba Eweka dynasty.. This was possible because the descendants of Ogiamien Erebo at this period, who fled Bini during the invasion, do no longer know their true history so it was easy for Oba Eweka dynasty to distort their histories. This started at about late 14th Century AD. If not for the cordial relationship between Oba Akenzua and Ohen Evian on one part and Ogiamien Obazee on the other part, they would have fully taken over Iyekeogba clan because of her proximity and her strategic economic relevance in the heart of Bini by sending Enogies to Iyekeogba. Somehow, there is still cold war even though the Ogiamien dynasty (Ohen Evian) still appears to be in charge of the sixteen communities: Ugbor, Nkae, Ogha, Ihinmwinein, Aruogba, Etete, Orhionmwon nIkpe, Evboro, Avbiama, Igo, Ugbor, Ikhuen, Ivbiotor, Ugbekun, Igbobi and Ughoton, they are still usurping the powers of Ohen Evian.
19TH CENTURY TO DATE: THE ERA OF WITCH-HUNTING AND PERSECUTION:
By early 19th Century AD, they became shocked to discover that some descendants of The Great Ogiamien Royal Family had found themselves in strategic positions through hard work in the state and in the country, and then they started witch-hunting and persecuting them. Many of them bearing Ogiamien had no other option than to drop the name Ogiamien and started bearing their real fathers name and stopped identifying with anything Ogiamien. Even up till now, some of our direct children are still afraid to bear Ogiamien name. They are even afraid to associate with us openly but they do secretly because of their positions in the society. It has been hellish and terrible for our people and the Binis do not know what we have been passing through in the hands of Oba Eweka dynasty. This liberation coming will be celebrated with lots of thanksgiving. That was why my grand father, Prince Pa Sunday Emokpae now the spiritual head of the
Great Ogiamien Royal Family lampooned and placed an irreversible curse on the Oba of Benin the late Oba Erediauwa.
Continuing: What we are pushing for now is the full implementation of the memorable Ekiokpagha Treaty. That is what we are pushing for. It has been there from time immemorial. We are not doing anything strange. We are only reviving this institution. There is time for everything. A time to be weak, a time to be strong, a time to be born and a time to die, a time to be out of circulation and a time to come back to circulation, a time to be forgotten and a time to be remembered, a time to be quite and a time to talk. That we have been quite all this while because of the cordial relationship between The Great Ogiamien Royal Family and the Oba of Benin does not mean we were not there. We are back to action and no amount of intimidation will stop us from answering our fathers name, thus the return of the silenced, neglected and forgotten aborigines is now fully on course. A renowned media practitioner and Veteran Journalist, Chief Gbolabo Ogunsanwo former Editor of the Sunday Times in 1967 in an exclusive interview conducted by him published in the October 1967 edition of the Spear Magazine titled The Ogiamien of Benin p12-15 speaking on the Ekiokpagha Treaty also confirmed the division of Bini into two:
A treaty was agreed to between the Ogiamien and the Eweka. Among the terms of the treaty were:
That Benin land, with Eki-Okpagha as the demarcation line was divided into two equal parts when the Ogiamien reportedly said: I sell half of this land to you, putting soil into the locked palms of the Eweka and himself; I do not sell the land to you finally. It shall be yours throughout your reign, but your children shall in future buy this land again from me in the same way you have done.
Dr. Williams Ogunlesi, another great African Historian in his article titled The position of Ogiamien in the Benin Kingdom African Culture Magazine, February 1996 p18 also confirmed the division of Bini into two by the Ekiokpagha Treaty:
The Ogiamien would tell the Oba that Ekiokpagha shall be the boundary between his domain and the Oba and that Ebeni leaves should be used to roof the houses of Ogiamiens territory known as Utantan, a part of Benin while the rest land which is the domain of the Oba will use Ekhuere leaves to roof their houses.
This treaty of Ekiokpagha which created the division of Bini into two between the Ogiamien and the Oba is also supported by a renowned European historian R. E. Bradbury:
after the battle, there would be a ritual dividing the Benin land into two between the Ogiamien and the Oba.
Another great historian Professor P. A. Igbafe, still supporting the Ekiokpagha Treaty which divided Bini into two in his book, Benin Under Colonial Administration said what I normally call the historian supreme court verdict. Hear him:
The belief that land belongs to the Oba is a mistaken conception of the theory of Benin land tenure. In reality It is difficult to see how they could make such claims vis-à-vis the customary presents which each Oba sent to the Ogiame (sic) on occasion in acknowledgement of the permission granted to the founder of the present dynasty to settle on a foreign soil.
Please ponder on the word foreign soil.
Then in the March 2016 edition of Ogiamien Trumpet Volume 2 No 2, High Chief Monday Wehere further disclosed how the late Oba Erediauwa distorted, corrupted and destroyed Bini History:
High Chief Wehere thanked “Messrs Odia Ofeimun and his co-history contractors at the Edo Focus Parliament hired by Oba Erediauwa to destroy Bini history for confirming how Oba Erediauwa distorted, corrupted and destroyed Bini history and his attempt also to distort Yoruba history which failed”:
Oba Erediauwa simply avers that the earliest rulers or Kings in what is today Edo or Benin were known as Ogiso. The first was known as Ogiso Igodo and the last (of the thirty one or so of them) was Ogiso Owodo, the father of Ekaladerhan who became known as Oduduwa in Ife. In essence Oduduwa came after the Ogisos
..Odia Ofeimun, Vanguard Wednesday March 2nd 2016 pp14-15.
“Before this time, I have been worried and have been asking even finding out who came up with this Ekaladerhan fiction but today, I am happy that Odia Ofeimun in the Vanguard of March 2nd 2016 pp14-15 has finally confirmed that Oba Erediauwa is not ONLY the originator but he Oba Erediauwa concocted and manufactured this intellectual fraud on the Binis.
“Before the coming of Oba Erediauwa, there was cordial relationship between the Benin Kingdom and Ife people on one hand. On the other hand also, there was cordial relationship to some extent between the Ogiso/Ogiamien Royal dynasty and the Oba Eweka dynasty until the coming of Oba Erediauwa who created the confusions we are witnessing now.
“Oba Erediauwa so far in the history of Benin Kingdom is the most educated, exposed, experienced and intelligent Monarch. In the esoteric tradition which we all belonged to Oba Erediauwa is described as a child prodigy and an autodidact, thus he is highly intelligent and a genius.
“Now instead of using these rare personality traits to build on the existing cordial relationship between the Benin Kingdom and Ife people on one hand and the Ogiso/Ogiamien dynasty and the Oba Eweka dynasty on the other hand and also transform Bini to an enviable political and economic height but he decided to create confusions as follows:
Being a child prodigy and as an autodidact, as a teenager, he was able to foresee the dangers inherent in keeping with:
EXISTING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE BENIN KINGDOM AND THE IFE PEOPLE
(1) SENDING THE REMAINS OF THE OBA OF BENIN ON DEMISE TO ILE IFE: To Oba Erediauwa this speaks volumes.
(2) OBTAINING PERMISSION FROM ILE-IFE BEFORE INSTALLATING A NEW OBA OF BENIN: To Oba Erediauwa too this could expose many things.
(3) USING OF YORUBA DAILECT AS AN OFFICIAL LANGUAGE IN THE OBA OF BENIN PALACE: To Oba Erediauwa, this might reveal to the aborigine Binis that they have no relationship whatsoever with us and this could even make the intelligent ones to start seeing and believing the hidden truth that Ogiso Owodo truly had no child and a heir and that truly the story of Ekaladerhan concocted by him might be discovered to be a hoax.
EXISTING CORDIAL TRADITIONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OGISO/OGIAMIEN DYNASTY:
ACKNOWLEDGING THE REIGN OF OGISO EVIAN: This could portend great danger to the Oba Eweka dynasty as such acknowledgment would give credence to whoever is the reigning Ogiamien as maintaining the Blood grail of the Ogiso dynasty.
RE-ENACTING THE EKIOKPAGHA TREATY: The provision of Ekiokpagha Treaty which makes the Ogiamien as the permanent Obas lessors and the Oba Eweka dynasty a permanent tenant in Benin Kingdom could spell doom for them in future, so the Ekiokpagha Treaty MUST be circumvented and destroyed.
VISITING THE REIGNING OGIAMIEN IN HIS PALACE: A situation where the Oba of Benin MUST use the special door called Urho-Erivbin which compel the Oba of Benin to bow before the Ogiamien when entering through the 4ft door .
Against this background, he decided to evolve evil and satanic strategies to destroy all the foregoing existing traditional relationship between the Benin Kingdom and the Ile-Ife people on one hand and the cordial relationship between the Ogiso/Ogiamien dynasty and the Oba Eweka dynasty on the other hand to dispel the unique and distinct royal position of the Great Ogiamien Royal Family and the aborigine Binis with the aim of saving them from possible ejection in future by their rival the Great Ogiamien Royal family who is the current custodian of all the descendants of the 32 previous Ogisos that had ruled Bini.
THE EVIL AND SATANIC STRATEGIES OF OBA EREDIAUWA:
(1) DESTROY THE EXISTING CORDIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ILE-IFE PEOPLE BY REFUSING TO SEND THE REMAINS OF THE OBA OF BENIN ON DEMISE TO ILE-IFE; AND ALSO REFUSING TO OBTAIN PERMISSION FROM ILE-IFE BEFORE THE INSTALLATION OF A NEW OBA OF BENIN::
According to High Chief Wehere the late Oba Erediauwa was born in 1923 and by 1933 when Oba Eweka II joined his ancestors, Oba Erediauwa, as a child prodigy with enough wisdom which is their characteristics finally discouraged his father that is Oba Akenzua II not to send the remains of his grand father that is Oba Eweka II to Ile-Ife for burial citing the case of Oba Ovoranvwen who died and was buried in exile and secondly he also appealed to his own father that is Oba Akenzua II not to also obtain permission from Ile-Ife before installing himself. His father a nice man, who has respect for tradition initially refused but Oba Erediauwa with wisdom being an autodidact then as a young man was able to convince and explain to his father the many dangers inherent in some of those laid down traditional practices and his father agreed with him and actually he did not send the remains of Oba Eweka II and also refused deliberately to obtain permission from Ile-Ife before his installation. That was how the Benin Traditional Council stopped sending the remains of the Oba of Benin on demise to Ile-Ife for burial and also stopped obtaining permission from Ile-Ife before installing a new Oba of Benin. And of course, since he was the originator, he too did not send the remains of his father Oba Akenzua II and also he too did not obtain permission from Ile-Ife before his installation. So as of now, they owed Ile-Ife people the remains of two Obas that is Eweka II and Akenzua II and that of the incumbent, Oba Erediauwa any time he also join his ancestors.
(2) DISCONTINUE THE USE OF YORUBA DAILECT AS OFFICIAL LANGUAGE IN THE OBA OF BENIN PALACE:
Oba Erediauwa discreetly discontinued the use of Yoruba dialect as official language in the Oba of Benin palace in the early 20th century. That is why when you come across any person from Oba Eweka dynasty when he/she speaks Bini dialect, you may be forced to laugh at him/her. The difference is always clear. This was how Oba Erediauwa discreetly destroyed the existing cordial relationship between the Benin Traditional Council and the Ile-Ife people.
DESTROY THE EXISTING CORDIAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE BENIN TRADITIONAL COUNCIL AND THE GREAT OGAIMIEN ROYAL FAMILY:
After he has succeeded in carrying this evil plans against his people from Ile-Ife, the next thing was to descend on the aborigine Binis and his first target was the Great Ogiamien Royal Family.
(1) NON-RECOGNITION OF EVIAN AS AN OGISO:
Oba Erediauwa ensured that Evian should not be recognized as the blood brother of Ogiso Owodo, as such recognition would mean a big threat to their existence. The eventful period Evian ruled should be described as an interregnum, even though there was nothing like that. Nothing good should be seen in Evian. Evian MUST be hacked down if they Must establish their stay permanently in Benin Kingdom. Upon all the good things Ogiso Evian did for the Binis, Oba Erediauwa criminally turned everything against Evian. He distorted Evian records. In some instance, he painted Evian as an ordinary citizen of Igodomigodo, he never acknowledges Evian to be a blood relation of Ogiso Owodo if not for some patriotic aborigine Binis who has been describing Evian as the only surviving blood brother of Ogiso Owodo. This forced him to reluctantly acknowledge Evian as a mere administrator, but he warned the Benin Traditional Council never repeat never to acknowledge Evian as an Ogiso or Administrator in any of their historical presentation. That is why up till today, in BTC you hardly see Evian name being mentioned in any historical documents in the BTC archives. Oba Erediauwa gave this directive.
Oba Erediauwa in his devilish attempt to support the fake Ekaladerhan theory manufactured by himself, he deliberately omitted Ogiso E
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by gregyboy(m): 5:34pm On Aug 30, 2020
Anyone who is reading this dont be fooled by the myth perpetuated by people for their own greed.

Benin and ife never happened is the truth, the benin ife myth when it started after 1903, it was excluding oromiyan, alafin of oyo, but overtime the myth grew in lies to accommodate them all, alafin had to be put in the benin-ife myth because the tension between him and ooni over power struggle was rising to calm him, the myth was rewritten to make alafin second after onni while the oba of benin 3rd the oba of benin never objected this to them they were much greatful to be in the 3rd positions amongst two kings from a majour tribe, all the benins wanted then was recognitions and ethnic benefits

The myth started by the benins to promote cultural and political diplomacy from the yorubas, since they were greatly affected by the war, with the the British,


The first noted account of the mythical history started like this, the screenshot below, this was the first written record, there was non before the war, because it never happened


People who says our oba came from ife should better be leaving in late century their time in this century is a waste, in this present century not only do our elite have acess to information, everyone too has ascess to this information at their comfort zone and its absolutely free of charge, just your time that is needed


The first myth perpetuated by benin ife is on the screenshot, below compare it to the recent myth carried around


Benin - owo happened
Benin-eko happened

But Benin-ife is a big staged myth, used for political and cultural gains from both benin and Yoruba people


Ask them were is the head of the oba of benin buried at ife, they will show you an empty grave cite, that was made to accompany the myth few years ago


Benin-ife is a myth



Ife came into limelight from 1897 when a yoruba oyo returned slave from England, came back and composed a book on the history of yoruba at 1897 he personally made ife the cradle of yoruba civilization for his own personal reasons

Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by gregyboy(m): 5:43pm On Aug 30, 2020
Now compare the myth, with the recent one that was made to accompany alafin of oyo and oromiyan,
Story


Benin already had it in thier history eweka was their first king, since inception and eweka was an indigenous king



Saying eweka (a benin name) and not ademola came from ife, make the composer of the myth a joke and lacked insight to his failure


Mraphel, i hope you wont commit suicide that our oba is not from ife, and its just a mixup
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by gregyboy(m): 5:50pm On Aug 30, 2020
Mraphel:
When he was further asked his stake on the notion that the Yorubas migrated from Benin, he screamed again: No! No! No!!! That one has been settled. It cannot be. That history is not correct at all. See the Yoruba Empire has been in existence for so long after the Songhai Empire, before the Utman Danfodio war, there was an Oyo empire. The Oyo Empire had long developed even before the Bini Empire became visible. No doubt the Binis existed but we were neighbouring country next to the Oyo Empire. We do not even have the population of the Yorubas as at that time that was why they were able to over power the reigning Ogiamien then and took over from him. This is where we really have problem in Bini history. The Yorubas, repeat, the Yorubas did not migrate from Bini Empire. Whoever is saying so does not know the history properly he noted.
The edition that broke the camels back was the very edition where Ogiamien Arisco and the Okagbe Nokhua of the Great Ogiamien Royal Family Prince Pa Sunday Emokpae were granted different exclusive interviews that appeared in Volume 1 No 4 August 21st 2015. Ogiamien Arisco said: We are not interested in the title of Oba of Benin because Ogiamien Title is Higher noting further that We own the Bini land. Our focus is how to liberate the Ogiamiens and the Binis from the Political and Economic slavery foist on us by the Oba of Benin”.
Many Binis were shocked to read this in the Ogiamien Trumpet.


You keep bringing articles you don't understand all for what to prove a point that the benin monarchy is ife... Lol grin yoruba attache, and this article keep post keeps putting you in trouble


Why do you want our oba to be from ife by all means possible so you can claim our heritage, the more you keep creating threads like this the more i keep exposing it, the more people read and quickly get familiar with the truth


The myth would have not been known or dug if both party was not trying to politicize it,


Yorubas are so anxious to claim the title oba when we all knew when you guys adopted the name for your kings.......


Go and read instead of posting articles that keeps exposing your ignorance
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Nobody: 9:51pm On Aug 30, 2020
gregyboy:
Now compare the myth, with the recent one that was made to accompany alafin of oyo and oromiyan,
Story


Benin already had it in thier history eweka was their first king, since inception and eweka was an indigenous king



Saying eweka (a benin name) and not ademola came from ife, make the composer of the myth a joke and lacked insight to his failure
Jo

Mraphel, i hope you wont commit suicide that our oba is not from ife, and its just a mixup

You will be the first person on earth I will hear Benin and Ife never happened.

If with your attached historical account written by a white man, he clearly stated that Oba eweka came from Ife.

Everyone agreed The first Oba of Benin came from Ile-Ife.

Oba Ewuare( the second) during his coronation said he's the son of Oduduwa ( he knows what he meant by the statement)
The Ogisos of Benin that said Oba came from Ife are not Foolish.

I'm from Owo, Oba Ewuare1 of Benin was killed during a war with Owo I guess that's the relationship you're talking about.

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Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by gregyboy(m): 10:16pm On Aug 30, 2020
Onijagidijagan:

You will be the first person on earth I will hear Benin and Ife never happened.

If with your attached historical account written by a white man, he clearly stated that Oba eweka came from Ife.

Everyone agreed The first Oba of Benin came from Benin

Ova Ewuare during his coronation said he's the son of Oduduwa ( he knows what he means by that)
The Ogisos of Benin that said Oba came from Ife are not Foolish.

I'm from Owo, Oba Ewuare1 of Benin was killed during a war with Owo I guess that's the
relationship you're talking about.


Mad man oba ewuare killed in a war in owo,

You done drink,

Follow my post on profiles from beginning to the end and stop fooling yourself on my mentions

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Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by lx3as(m): 5:59pm On Sep 01, 2020
Sensible people know that Ekaladerhan's concocted moon light tale originated from Oba Erediauwa. How could Yoruba people in about 8 states with about 20 senatorial Districts and in more than 5 countries came from people that their entire extension not more than few local government areas? Moreover, they decided to drop the Ogiso title, their gods and deities for Yorubas'. The Ogiamien's story is more genuine but they should forget about relegating Oba of Bini to few LGAs.

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Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by gregyboy(m): 6:59am On Sep 02, 2020
lx3as:
Sensible people know that Ekaladerhan's concocted moon light tale originated from Oba Erediauwa. How could Yoruba people in about 8 states with about 20 senatorial Districts and in more than 5 countries came from people that their entire extension not more than few local government areas? Moreover, they decided to drop the Ogiso title, their gods and deities for Yorubas'. The Ogiamien's story is more genuine but they should forget about relegating Oba of Bini to few LGAs.


Lol, ignoramus, is not ekaladeran story that connected ogiemien, instead of admiting benin
-ife was a lie, you are finding ways to manipulate it, and you still flop at it,

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Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 10:01am On Sep 02, 2020
Onijagidijagan:

You will be the first person on earth I will hear Benin and Ife never happened.

If with your attached historical account written by a white man, he clearly stated that Oba eweka came from Ife.

Everyone agreed The first Oba of Benin came from Ife

Oba Ewuare the second during his coronation said he's the son of Oduduwa (he knows what he meant by that)

The Ogisos of Benin that said Oba came from Ife are not Foolish.

I'm from Owo, Oba Ewuare1 of Benin was killed during a war with Owo I guess that's the relationship you're talking about.
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Mraphel: 12:57pm On Sep 02, 2020
cool
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by AreaFada2: 4:53pm On Sep 02, 2020
Onijagidijagan:

You will be the first person on earth I will hear Benin and Ife never happened.

If with your attached historical account written by a white man, he clearly stated that Oba eweka came from Ife.

Everyone agreed The first Oba of Benin came from Ile-Ife.

Oba Ewuare( the second) during his coronation said he's the son of Oduduwa (he knows what he meant by the statement)
The Ogisos of Benin that said Oba came from Ife are not Foolish.

I'm from Owo, Oba Ewuare1 of Benin was killed during a war with Owo I guess that's the relationship you're talking about.

Oh boy you can lie. You are not from Owo. Maybe an immigrant to Owo. Tell me your lineage in Owo: Iloro, Ojomo Oluda, Ologho (Ogunoye, Ajike, Olateru-Olagbegi) or which quarter?

Everyone claims Ewuare I died fighting them: Anioma, Esan and poorly informed Owo people. Benin and Owo made peace long ago. Despite Benin winning, Owo remained very independent. Benin immigrants moved in large numbers peacefully to Owo area. By the reign of Oba Ozolua (from about 1483) Such as Upele/Ipele near Owo. The warrior that died fighting in Owo was Iken, leader at Uselu (a village near Benin in those days).

No Oma Ologho will spew nonsense and lie so effortlessly like you.

You know everybody in Yorubaland is claiming descent from Oduduwa since it became politically trendy to do so. A big lie. Oduduwa supposedly lived 800 years ago. Yorubaland is way older. Benin/Igodo was already well-established by 40BC. I don't expect Yoruba race to be much younger than that. I doubt even if Ojugbelu Arere came from Ife.

Oduduwa story has many versions. Ekaladerhan from Igodo, from Yemen, Egypt, Saudi, Nubia, Israel, etc. All cannot be correct. These are probably mythical stories that sprang up at various times. Eventually coalescing. They were probaly about different people previously.

Even Olugbo of Ugbo casts serious doubt on the Yoruba version.

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Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by gregyboy(m): 5:13pm On Sep 02, 2020
AreaFada2:


Oh boy you can lie. You are not from Owo. Maybe an immigrant to Owo. Tell me your lineage in Owo: Iloro, Ojomo Oluda, Ologho (Ogunoye, Ajike, Olateru-Olagbegi) or which quarter?

No Oma Ologho will spew nonsense and lie so effortlessly like you.

You know everybody in Yorubaland is claiming descent from Oduduwa since it became political trendy to do so. A big lie. Oduduwa lived 800 years ago. Yorubaland is way older. Benin/Igodo was already well-established by 40BC. I don't expect Yoruba race to much younger than that. I doubt even if Ojugbelu Arere even came from Ife.

Oduduwa story has many versions. Ekaladerhan from Igodo, from Yemen, Egypt, Saudi, Nubia, Israel, etc. All cannot be correct. These are probably mythical stories that sprang up at various times. Eventually coalescing. They were probaly about different people previously.

Even Olugbo of Ugbo casts serious doubt on the Yoruba version.


Yorubas want us to destroy their history, we will,

I dont just have time for it now, when i am ready the mods in culture thread will have no choice to ban me, for unfolding their myths


Even our brothers from ondo will also be lumping us as yorubas what a pity to any benin descendants who lives in Yoruba lands doing that,

Dont let the yorubas in your mist deceive you we all are true blooded edo people we gave them everything we have in similar
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by gregyboy(m): 5:15pm On Sep 02, 2020
AreaFada2:


Oh boy you can lie. You are not from Owo. Maybe an immigrant to Owo. Tell me your lineage in Owo: Iloro, Ojomo Oluda, Ologho (Ogunoye, Ajike, Olateru-Olagbegi) or which quarter?

No Oma Ologho will spew nonsense and lie so effortlessly like you.

You know everybody in Yorubaland is claiming descent from Oduduwa since it became political trendy to do so. A big lie. Oduduwa lived 800 years ago. Yorubaland is way older. Benin/Igodo was already well-established by 40BC. I don't expect Yoruba race to much younger than that. I doubt even if Ojugbelu Arere even came from Ife.

Oduduwa story has many versions. Ekaladerhan from Igodo, from Yemen, Egypt, Saudi, Nubia, Israel, etc. All cannot be correct. These are probably mythical stories that sprang up at various times. Eventually coalescing. They were probaly about different people previously.

Even Olugbo of Ugbo casts serious doubt on the Yoruba version.

Kudos to you..... Some benins like you most times get carried away by the influence of the big tribe
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Nobody: 5:48pm On Sep 02, 2020
AreaFada2:


Oh boy you can lie. You are not from Owo. Maybe an immigrant to Owo. Tell me your lineage in Owo: Iloro, Ojomo Oluda, Ologho (Ogunoye, Ajike, Olateru-Olagbegi) or which quarter?

Everyone claims Ewuare I died fighting them: Anioma, Esan and poorly informed Owo people. Benin and Owo made peace long ago. Despite Benin winning, Owo remained very independent. Benin immigrants moved in large numbers peacefully to Owo area. By the reign of Oba Ozolua's reign (from about 1483) Such as Upele/Ipele near Owo. The warrior that died fighting in Owo was Iken, leader at Usele (a village near Benin in those days).

No Oma Ologho will spew nonsense and lie so effortlessly like you.

You know everybody in Yorubaland is claiming descent from Oduduwa since it became political trendy to do so. A big lie. Oduduwa supposedly lived 800 years ago. Yorubaland is way older. Benin/Igodo was already well-established by 40BC. I don't expect Yoruba race to much younger than that. I doubt even if Ojugbelu Arere even came from Ife.

Oduduwa story has many versions. Ekaladerhan from Igodo, from Yemen, Egypt, Saudi, Nubia, Israel, etc. All cannot be correct. These are probably mythical stories that sprang up at various times. Eventually coalescing. They were probaly about different people previously.
Even Olugbo of Ugbo casts serious doubt on the Yoruba version.
You're not from Owo. Owo was never under Benin.
We've invaded Benin in the past and won several wars with Benin..Owo was never defeated. in most of the wars we don't win them and we've never lose(vice versa) I will need you to tell me the truth where you are truly from.
I'm more related to Ogunoye. A past Oba of Benin once led war to Owo and was defeated in which the Oba of Benin was killed. We have it in our history only not published on the Internet.

We don't pay unnecessary tribute to Benin we both respect ourselves.

Also Owo Oba migrated from Ife and there's no dispute about that but a fact moreover Igodomigodo were defeated by Ife warriors led by prince Oranmiyan before he could established Oba in Benin lest it will still be Igodomigodo and Ogiso till today).

Ife is more than 5000 years old and more than 50 kings (Obas) has ruled the kingdom of Ife before Oduduwa's reign but their names lost in the history the last was known as Obatala before Ooni (Oduduwa)
The Ooni dynasty started with Oduduwa and one of his grandchildren founded Owo.

There is no such thing like Ekaladeran.Ekaladeran is a fraud story) Don't Even say it in front of any Yoruba, Itsekiri, Igala, Ijebu etc..Only brainwashed Edo believe in that trashy story.
Ekaladeran was fabricated by Oba's palace less than 200 years ago.
Even the Ogiemien family (the aborigines of Benin) knew isn't the true story of Benin.
The fact still remains that the early Oba of Bini is sourced from Ife.

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Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Nobody: 6:04pm On Sep 02, 2020
gregyboy:


Kudos to you..... Some benins like you most times get carried away by the influence of the big tribe
He splits nonsense. He's from Bini
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by AreaFada2: 6:08pm On Sep 02, 2020
Onijagidijagan:

You're not from Owo. Owo was never under Benin.
We've invaded Benin in the past and won several wars with Benin..Owo was never defeated. I will need you to tell me the truth where you are truly from.
I'm more related to Ogunoye. A past Oba of Benin once led war to Owo and was defeated in which the Oba of Benin was killed. We have it in our history only not published on the Internet.

We don't pay unnecessary tribute to Benin we both respect ourselves.

Also Owo Oba migrated from Ife and there's no dispute about that but a fact.

Ife is more than 5000 years old and more than 50 kings (Obas) has ruled the kingdom before Oduduwa but their names lost in the history. Ooni
of Ife dynasty started with Oduduwa and one of his grandchildren founded Owo.

There is no such thing like Ekaladeran. Don't Even say it in front of any Yoruba, Itsekiri, Igala, Ijebu etc.
Ekaladeran was fabricated by Oba's palace less than 200 years ago.
Even the Ogiemien( the aborigines of Benin) no isn't the truth.

Wishy washy submission. More related to Ogunoye just because Olowo Ogunoye is currently ruling. grin

When did first Olowo came to Owo? What was his name?
Nobody can tell the story like a person who spans both cultures. The most objective.

Let us assume that first Olowo came from Ife, what about the ordinary Owo people? They also descend from Ododuwa?
Our people from SW still insist Oduduwa lived about 800 years ago. And claim his kids and grandkids began all the Yoruba kingdoms. So Yoruba historians have not explained how all YOrubas descend from Oduduwa.

People can be intolerant due to ethnic pride if they lioe. So whether Ijebu or Igala want to hear or do not want to hear is not my business. The empirical evidence is more important.

Boko Haram do not want to hear about people of all religions living happily together. But it does not mean their ideology is right.
Your corner side history has no relevance. It's a myth. I am partly a product of Benin campaign in Eastern Yorubaland.

Does it not surprise you how Owo royal practices closely resemble Benin monarch's?
If you were any close to the royal house as you claim, you will know.
Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by Nobody: 6:19pm On Sep 02, 2020
AreaFada2:

Wishy washy submission. More related to Ogunoye just because Olowo Ogunoye is currently ruling. grin

When did first Olowo came to Owo? What was his name?
Nobody can tell the story like a person who spans both cultures. The most objective.

Let us assume that first Olowo came from Ife, what about the ordinary Owo people? They also descend from Ododuwa?
Our people from SW still insist Oduduwa lived about 800 years ago. And claim his kids and grandkids began all the Yoruba kingdoms. So Yoruba historians have not explained how all YOrubas descend from Oduduwa.

People can be intolerant due to ethnic pride if they lioe. So whether Ijebu or Igala want to hear or do not want to hear is not my business. The empirical evidence is more important.

Boko Haram do not want to hear about people of all religions living happily together. But it does not mean their ideology is right.
Your corner side history has no relevance. It's a myth. I am partly a product of Benin campaign in Eastern Yorubaland.

Does it not surprise you how Owo royal practices closely resemble Benin monarch's?
If you were any close to the royal house as you claim, you will know.
Who in the south west that will believe that? Ordinary Akure is more than 800years.
Is an insult for you to say Ife kingdom is 800 years.
Is more than 8000 years. Do u know it is believed the world started from Ife? Is the world 800years old?
The eastern Yoruba your partly from are new settlement that could be 800 years old.
Have u ever hear Past Oba of Benin in dispute with Ooni? Never. If river forgets its source it will dry.
if Oba of Benin palace should insult Oyo kingdom or Ooni of Ife, he will be shown his source. Many more secrets the world does not know now will be unraveled to the Edos and the Oba of Benin.
A reasonable Oba of Benin that will reunite with the Source will emerge in the future.

Our history ain't fraud and ain't myth but the fact

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Re: The Battle Of The Titans: The Ogiso aborigines Vs Oba Of Benin by gregyboy(m): 6:19pm On Sep 02, 2020
Onijagidijagan:

He splits nonsense. He's from Bini


Funny fellow, you want to deniel him is other halfs yes he is benin.... Who is ancestors migrated to owo to rule yoruba people....


Please you yorubas should be liking my post just as you like that of Tao11 to encourage me grin

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