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Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by StChivalry(m): 7:42pm On Sep 02, 2020
Please, help is needed! My friend's tecno pouvoir 3 plus can't open apps more than 9. Once the apps are more than 9(like 10 apps), it closes the last app on the minimization tab to make it 9. He has ticked 'not optimized' for these apps, and even locked them, but they still get force-closed!
the ram doesn't mostly get more than 2100(2gb) before such 'glitch' happens. the free ram is not below 700mb.
Cc: dragnet , greenhulk, tafat , thesolutions ,lexusgs430, edoairways and others; your assistance is needed here!
You can ask any questions.
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by PornLegend: 8:00pm On Sep 02, 2020
the processor is jackshit, what were you expecting
that's what happens when you believe bigger ram means faster performance

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Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by StChivalry(m): 8:17pm On Sep 02, 2020
PornLegend:
the processor is jackshit, what were you expecting

that's what happens when you believe bigger ram means faster performance

I don't convincingly believe the processor (p22) is d cause because other phones with less powerful processors(a22, mt6732, 6580 etc) don't have such drawback.

I think the phone was clocked not to open apps more than 9 in the minimization tab.

Is the ram substandard or 'underclocked'? is there any developer option prompt that can remedy such error?
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by thesolutions(m): 9:02pm On Sep 02, 2020
StChivalry:
Please, help is needed! My friend's tecno pouvoir 3 plus can't open apps more than 9. Once the apps are more than 9(like 10 apps), it closes the last app on the minimization tab to make it 9. He has ticked 'not optimized' for these apps, and even locked them, but they still get force-closed!
the ram doesn't mostly get more than 2100(2gb) before such 'glitch' happens. the free ram is not below 700mb.
Cc: dragnet , greenhulk, tafat , thesolutions ,lexusgs430, edoairways and others; your assistance is needed here!
You can ask any questions.

Your friend like opening apps that he is not using. If this happens only when data is on, then the phone has bug. If not, your friend should just call it a style and enjoy the closing.
Why on earth will your friend prefer to litter the environment with dirts
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by AmosAkins: 9:21pm On Sep 02, 2020
personally I dont open more than 5 apps on my device.
They even auto freeze on exit ...

Probably it is a software glitch or that is how the phone is...Helio p22 is efficient in multitasking
And what kind of apps does he open ?
Chrome,Instagram,YT?
Because those are demanding aps sometimes
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by StChivalry(m): 9:53pm On Sep 02, 2020
thesolutions:


Your friend like opening apps that he is not using. If this happens only when data is on, then the phone has bug. If not, your friend should just call it a style and enjoy the closing.
Why on earth will your friend prefer to litter the environment with dirts

Only 9 apps, and you think they are more than enough for a p22 chipset with 3gb ram?
whereas phones with very much lower Os, and chipsets can have and handle more than 15 apps without any glitch of force-closing or be encumbered with any issue?

The matter you raised concerning the phone having a bug wasn't thought of. So, what might lead to such, and how to rid such bugs?

Lol, funny u! You assumed such limiting drawback is a form of suave style or fashion, and having more than 9 apps on
the minimization tab is littering d environment with dirt? I guessestimated that u thought phones are still in d backward and encumbering phase with manifold technological albatrosses!
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by thesolutions(m): 10:04pm On Sep 02, 2020
StChivalry:


Only 9 apps, and you think they are more than enough for a p22 chipset with 3gb ram?
whereas phones with very much lower Os, and chipsets can have and handle more than 15 apps without any glitch of force-closing or be encumbered with any issue?

The matter you raised concerning the phone having a bug wasn't thought of. So, what might lead to such, and how to rid such bugs?

Lol, funny u! You assumed such limiting drawback is a form of suave style or fashion, and having more than 9 apps on
the minimization tab is littering d environment with dirt? I guessestimated that u thought phones are still in d backward and encumbering phase with manifold technological albatrosses!
I just experimented this on my Redmi 9A and it did the same. At first it displayed the first 10 apps. On taping the eleventh and twelfth app, it dropped to 9 apps. It must be peculiar to the processor. Your device has no problem.
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by StChivalry(m): 11:33pm On Sep 02, 2020
thesolutions:

I just experimented this on my Redmi 9A and it did the same. At first it displayed the first 10 apps. On taping the eleventh and twelfth app, it dropped to 9 apps. It must be peculiar to the processor. Your device has no problem.

Damn! that must be urgh-inducing and highly revolting.
You seriously mean the glitch of closing apps of more than 9 is part of the processor or maybe Android 9 version make-up?
That is a big show of technological setbacks, and hurdles in this modern day, and age.
If what u just experimented was done with proper accuracy, and reasonable frequency; then android in conjunction with other OEMS, and mobile stakeholders like Arms and Mediatek are a big disillusionment, and letdown!
But I trust Infinix to redeem transsion, if Tecno got overwhelmed by such glitch. Their antecedents are a piece of evidence that they are not meant for poor outing or expectations.
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by StChivalry(m): 11:52pm On Sep 02, 2020
AmosAkins:
personally I dont open more than 5 apps on my device.
They even auto freeze on exit ...

Probably it is a software glitch or that is how the phone is...Helio p22 is efficient in multitasking
And what kind of apps does he open ?
Chrome,Instagram,YT?
Because those are demanding aps sometimes

Apps like instagram, and related wrappers like gbinstagram and ultrainstagram, Facebook lite, fnote, opera mini browser, gmail, and occasional use of chrome, Phoenix browser (because of accidental click of unsolicited news items; maybe Man U is d cause here), and some fewer others.
Helio p22 ought to be very efficient. It is much better than mt6850 or so on d infinix hot 4, and its performance was good with only 2gb ram(I personally used the hot).

some assumed flagships are adorned with such chipsets(Chinese OEMs call to mind) and with even lesser components like speed, etc; yet they stood d test of time, grew above their traducers' expectations; but this helio p22 on this pouvoir 3 plus is really a sheer thorn!

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Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by KrazyDave16(m): 12:36am On Sep 03, 2020
1. Poor OS optimization - sometimes OEMs sends out bugged updates and patches. Sometimes it's acknowledged and patched, other times it's not and users are forced to factory reset (doesn't necessarily work) or flash their device (works but now you're back to square one).

2. Stop using VPN if majority of these apps you keep in the background uses data - VPN uses a bit of your SoC resources and RAM to block ads by "cross-checking" every query sent out with the filters in the DNS and it must be in sync to effectively block out ads.

Funny thing most don't know is the more powerful the DNS or the more filters it has, the more resources it uses (RAM and most especially battery) and if you got a weak processor and you running adguard instead of cloudflare...welp could cause other app processes be cleared in the background trying to keep the VPN up

3. Pin the important ones so your OS doesn't clear the least used/resource-hungry app processes from the SRAM (refer to atheistandproud latest post on this) - pinning them saves them from being cleared but I don't think that's effective on apps that needs to be in sync when you're using data or it's using real-time...like idk running Civ 6 on auto in the background won't work on a budget entry chip.

And finally... Stop opening "heavy" apps back to back of your device is powered by P22 and any budget entry device. Yes the instruction sets are not outdated but alot of things that make up the SoC makes it different like the memory or clock cycles.

Also do note that majority of the devs don't really build apps on Mediatek. Either they run it via a virtual machine, go through so many unnecessary stress to get the source codes or use a previous source code for an old processor related to it and use shims to do some "magic".

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Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by ojonugba2014(m): 5:12am On Sep 03, 2020
I think it is the phone processor.

I have experiment it on my phone now.
Techno k7 with 1gb ram
No issue it opens more than 15 apps without any problem
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by chariisGRACE(m): 6:40am On Sep 03, 2020
StChivalry:


Only 9 apps, and you think they are more than enough for a p22 chipset with 3gb ram?
whereas phones with very much lower Os, and chipsets can have and handle more than 15 apps without any glitch of force-closing or be encumbered with any issue?


The matter you raised concerning the phone having a bug wasn't thought of. So, what might lead to such, and how to rid such bugs?

Lol, funny u! You assumed such limiting drawback is a form of suave style or fashion, and having more than 9 apps on
the minimization tab is littering d environment with dirt? I guessestimated that u thought phones are still in d backward and encumbering phase with manifold technological albatrosses!

Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by Asianjollof007: 6:59am On Sep 03, 2020
Bros, even my infinix hot 7 dey force close apps.
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by thesolutions(m): 7:24am On Sep 03, 2020
StChivalry:


Damn! that must be urgh-inducing and highly revolting.
You seriously mean the glitch of closing apps of more than 9 is part of the processor or maybe Android 9 version make-up?
That is a big show of technological setbacks, and hurdles in this modern day, and age.
If what u just experimented was done with proper accuracy, and reasonable frequency; then android in conjunction with other OEMS, and mobile stakeholders like Arms and Mediatek are a big disillusionment, and letdown!
But I trust Infinix to redeem transsion, if Tecno got overwhelmed by such glitch. Their antecedents are a piece of evidence that they are not meant for poor outing or expectations.
At first you blamed mediatek and decided to bring Infinix, Tecno and transsion into it without making reference to the Xiaomi device that I used to experiment on your claim. That shows the level of bias you have against the company and it products. And Xiaomi lies alot against Tecno to garner public sympathy and patronage
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by skywalker240(m): 10:16am On Sep 03, 2020
StChivalry:


I don't convincingly believe the processor (p22) is d cause because other phones with less powerful processors(a22, mt6732, 6580 etc) don't have such drawback.

I think the phone was clocked not to open apps more than 9 in the minimization tab.

Is the ram substandard or 'underclocked'? is there any developer option prompt that can remedy such error?
He is right sir.

processor is 96% the colperate
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by StChivalry(m): 11:02am On Sep 03, 2020
skywalker240:

He is right sir.

processor is 96% the colperate

That means the lower processor of mt6580 is far much better than the helio p22. I can't get how stupid, and backward a processor of 3 or more ram could be by closing more than 9 apps. it seems to be the stupidest, and most substandard processor available.
Can u explain how the processor is the major cause? maybe flashing of some files or probably rooting the phone might offer help in relation to such aforesaid issue.
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by StChivalry(m): 1:44pm On Sep 03, 2020
thesolutions:

At first you blamed mediatek and decided to bring Infinix, Tecno and transsion into it without making reference to the Xiaomi device that I used to experiment on your claim. That shows the level of bias you have against the company and it products. And Xiaomi lies alot against Tecno to garner public sympathy and patronage
Mediatek deserves the most blame for producing such limiting and obtuse processor.
Even pouvoir 3 air with 1gb ram has such obstructive, and poor ram management of closing more than 9 apps. so, Tecno is mostly an adherent of such poor CPU processing; as such, they are very much blameworthy. Including Infinix with their hot 7(although, I can't ascertain the extent. It might be less or more than 9 apps).
The Xiaomi's u discussed is an entry level. It is a big degradation, sham, and shame for the Tecno pouvoir 3 plus(even the 4 pro) to share such 'entry-level' processor.
You see, the overpriced phones with poor CPU, and optimization are too overcostly?
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by sunshineV(f): 2:55pm On Sep 03, 2020
thesolutions:

At first you blamed mediatek and decided to bring Infinix, Tecno and transsion into it without making reference to the Xiaomi device that I used to experiment on your claim. That shows the level of bias you have against the company and it products. And Xiaomi lies alot against Tecno to garner public sympathy and patronage
this is not xaiomi vs transsion
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by thesolutions(m): 4:09pm On Sep 03, 2020
StChivalry:

Mediatek deserves the most blame for producing such limiting and obtuse processor.
Even pouvoir 3 air with 1gb ram has such obstructive, and poor ram management of closing more than 9 apps. so, Tecno is mostly an adherent of such poor CPU processing; as such, they are very much blameworthy. Including Infinix with their hot 7(although, I can't ascertain the extent. It might be less or more than 9 apps).
The Xiaomi's u discussed is an entry level. It is a big degradation, sham, and shame for the Tecno pouvoir 3 plus(even the 4 pro) to share such 'entry-level' processor.
You see, the overpriced phones with poor CPU, and optimization are too overcostly?
So the pouvoir 3 plus is a midrange device and not an entry level device. What specs does it possess that is different from the Redmi 9A. Only higher RAM and better screen which made for the price difference with Redmi 9A. Compare it with Redmi 9C that is more expensive and see pouvoir 3 plus beat Xiaomi blue black.

Enjoy.
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by thesolutions(m): 4:11pm On Sep 03, 2020
sunshineV:
this is not xaiomi vs transsion
When there is bias, diverse opinions do arise.
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by Zeroenochone(m): 7:57pm On Sep 03, 2020
I'm not a tecno fan but....why would you want to leave 9 apps running at once in the first place?
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by skywalker240(m): 11:01pm On Sep 03, 2020
thesolutions:

What specs does it possess that is different from the Redmi 9A. Only higher RAM and better screen which made for the price difference with Redmi 9A. Compare it with Redmi 9C that is more expensive and see pouvoir 3 plus beat Xiaomi blue black.

Enjoy.
1. TECNO POUVOIR 3 PLUS
VS
2. XIAOMI REDMI 9C

OS

9C = ANDROID 10
3 PLUS = ANDROID 9

OS UPGRADE

9C = YES ANDROID 10 TO ANDROID 11
3 PLUS = NO

STORAGE

9C = 2GB/32GB, 3GB/64GB
3 PLUS = 3GB/64GB

PROCESSOR

9C = HELIO G35
3 PLUS = HELIO P22

DISPLAY

3 PLUS = 7", 720 * 1640, AMOLED
9C = 6.5" 720 * 1600

SCREEN PROTECTION

9C = GORILLA GLASS 5
3 PLUS = NONE

BATTERY

3 PLUS = 6000MAH
9C = 5000MAH

CHARGE

9C = USB TYPE C, 10 WATT
3 PLUS = MICRO USB TYPE B, NO FAST CHARGE

OTHERS

9C = FINGERPRINT, IR BLASTER, NFC
3 PLUS = FINGERPRINT

PRICE
9C = 46K - 54K
3 PLUS = 58K

ANTUTU SCORE

9C HELIO G35 = 134,000
3 PLUS HELIO P22 = 91,000

No disrespect here, but it sounds like you're tech illiterate or biased judge

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Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by AmosAkins: 2:20pm On Sep 04, 2020
StChivalry:

Mediatek deserves the most blame for producing such limiting and obtuse processor.
Even pouvoir 3 air with 1gb ram has such obstructive, and poor ram management of closing more than 9 apps. so, Tecno is mostly an adherent of such poor CPU processing; as such, they are very much blameworthy. Including Infinix with their hot 7(although, I can't ascertain the extent. It might be less or more than 9 apps).
The Xiaomi's u discussed is an entry level. It is a big degradation, sham, and shame for the Tecno pouvoir 3 plus(even the 4 pro) to share such 'entry-level' processor.
You see, the overpriced phones with poor CPU, and optimization are too overcostly?

Dont blame mediatek nau....Those processor are either outdated or not optimized for newer softwares ..Blame the manufacturers for not using newer chipsets.I mean There is g25 p70 p90 which are efficient even p35 is beginning to show it's age .So all the blame goes to the manufacturers ..Let them allow mt6580 rest in peace cheesy
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by Mohbola(f): 7:43pm On Sep 06, 2020
The processor
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by StChivalry(m): 5:20pm On Sep 07, 2020
AmosAkins:


Dont blame mediatek nau....Those processor are either outdated or not optimized for newer softwares ..Blame the manufacturers for not using newer chipsets.I mean There is g25 p70 p90 which are efficient even p35 is beginning to show it's age .So all the blame goes to the manufacturers ..Let them allow mt6580 rest in peace cheesy

I think differently about that because infinix note 7 pro has an advanced processor but still has the same 9 apps glitch.
I think mediatek is stupid enough to put such limitation on their product. The OEMs are also to blame for poor optimization, and patronization.
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by AmosAkins: 6:40pm On Sep 07, 2020
StChivalry:


I think differently about that because infinix note 7 pro has an advanced processor but still has the same 9 apps glitch.
I think mediatek is stupid enough to put such limitation on their product. The OEMs are also to blame for poor optimization, and patronization.
same too?
The only way of disabling that is by tweaking the build prop and increasing multitasking limit
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by Earlystar698(m): 6:50pm On Sep 07, 2020
Should we tell them?
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by Kvngfrosh(m): 7:23pm On Sep 07, 2020
ojonugba2014:
I think it is the phone processor.

I have experiment it on my phone now.
Techno k7 with 1gb ram
No issue it opens more than 15 apps without any problem
grin who are you deceiving
A phone of 1gb ram opening up to 15 apps angry
Even spark 3 with 1gb ram dey hang with only 2 apps in the background

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Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by ojonugba2014(m): 11:53pm On Sep 08, 2020
Kvngfrosh:
grin who are you deceiving
A phone of 1gb ram opening up to 15 apps angry
Even spark 3 with 1gb ram dey hang with only 2 apps in the background
I own you no fucking explanation.
Cheers
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by Kvngfrosh(m): 11:59pm On Sep 08, 2020
ojonugba2014:

I own you no fucking explanation.
Cheers
owe not own
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by ojonugba2014(m): 9:26am On Sep 09, 2020
Kvngfrosh:
owe not own
I hope you are making some money professor in English language
Re: Why Tecno Pouvoir 3 Plus/3gb Ram Force-closes Apps If They Are More Than 9? by Kvngfrosh(m): 9:32am On Sep 09, 2020
ojonugba2014:

I hope you are making some money professor in English language
lol

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