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Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Sermwell(m): 10:15am On Sep 13
The concept of religion doesn't make sense to me at all. I have a lot of questions I want to ask but we seem not to be ready for this conversation. One of the questions is the picture attached below.
Does anybody feel same or I'm the only one??

cc: lalasticlala
cc: Seun

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by ggirl4real: 10:18am On Sep 13
Christianity will be boring without all these confusion and intricacies so I think that's why the writers of the Bible made it confusing.

God knew that the devil will betray Him, yet he created the devil and included him In His cabinet.

The devil became proud and decided to challenge God, God could have destroyed the devil, but No, he allowed him.

Today Christians have to cast and bind the devil all their lives when God can simply destroy the devil to make the Christian life easy for Christians but No, He will not do that.

Abeg OP, I don tire for religious mata.

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by soulpeppersoup(m): 10:23am On Sep 13
Sermwell:
The concept of religion doesn't make sense to me at all. I have a lot of questions I want to ask but we seem not to be ready for this conversation. One of the questions is the picture attached below.
Does anybody feel same or I'm the only one??

cc: lalasticlala
cc: Seun

God is just. Have you heard that before?

If he exhibits any form of injustice, he will lose his position and authority thereby creating anarchy in the entire universe.

The universe operate on rules. Access to those rules gives you power if you comply to them and diminishes you if you break them no matter who you are.

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by thesicilian: 10:25am On Sep 13
Too many questions to ask. For example, we now know that there are billions of other places in the universe that the demons who rebelled in heaven could have been sent to. Why were they sent to Earth, the only place that God himself meticulously created and placed His beloved humans?

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by cruxgemmata(m): 10:29am On Sep 13
It wouldn't have gotten to sacrificing someone if the Fruit of Knowledge wasn't planted in the same place where people who would eat from it reside.

Even it was planted in their residence. It shouldn't have been a sweet fruit. D tree should have produced bad n smelly fruits so they can simply avoid it even without instructions.

If we were adam or eve
We go still cast. They are human, so are we grin

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by sigiyaya(m): 10:30am On Sep 13
If you want to be foolish and confused for the rest of your life then keep going to churches and mosque especially in Nigeria angry

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:33am On Sep 13
Sermwell:
The concept of religion doesn't make sense to me at all. I have a lot of questions I want to ask but we seem not to be ready for this conversation. One of the questions is the picture attached below.
Does anybody feel same or I'm the only one??

cc: lalasticlala
cc: Seun

grin let me tell you the secret! The Secret is that God Hates Rubbish and Satan is Rubbish.

So because loves Only a Clean Place He is therefore waiting for All the Rubbishes to Show up so that He can dispose All of Them Together with Satan.

So that His Houses would be Clean Again with No threat of any Rubbish getting them dirty.

So, Satan picks his fellow dustbins leaving behind the Clean.

That's the plan! grin

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by saddler: 10:36am On Sep 13
If you ask their Pastors this question they will insult you and your family just like they are doing to Freeze

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Sermwell(m): 10:38am On Sep 13
Dtruthspeaker:


grin let me tell you the secret! The Secret is that God Hates Rubbish and Satan is Rubbish.

So because loves Only a Clean Place He is therefore waiting for All the Rubbishes to Show up so that He can dispose All of Them Together with Satan.

So that His Houses would be Clean Again with No threat of any Rubbish getting them dirty.

That's the plan! grin
How do you know this?? Since God hates rubbish, why not dispose the rubbish from the start? Why allow this rubbish to fester for this long??

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Sermwell(m): 10:42am On Sep 13
soulpeppersoup:


God is just. Have you heard that before?

If he exhibits any form of injustice, he will lose his position and authority thereby creating anarchy in the entire universe.

The universe operate on rules. Access to those rules gives you power if you comply to them and diminishes you if you break them no matter who you are.
Well, if you must know, the universe is already in anarchy because the devil exist. Are you saying the universe is a better place now with the existence of the devil??
Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:46am On Sep 13
Sermwell:

How do you know this?? Since God hates rubbish, why not dispose the rubbish from the start? Why allow this rubbish to fester for this long??

He is not like you that like to repeat a matter. He does a Thing Once and let's it be.

So also now that there is one Satan who spoils His Works, therefore, All Satans and Satanses that should come after this first Satan, both past, present and future, that should come to spoil His Work Again shall be dealt with decisively.

Therefore All are Brought Together For A Complete And Absolute Expulsion!

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by soulpeppersoup(m): 10:47am On Sep 13
Sermwell:

Well, if you must know, the universe is already in anarchy because the devil exist. Are you saying the universe is a better place now with the existence of the devil??

Have you ever seen devil in real human form?

Why do you think he can not take human form openly for now?
Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Ade3131: 11:14am On Sep 13
The concept of religion is a very tricky and complex concept to understand. When you try to be as objective as possible in dissecting religious beliefs to get to the core or root of it all, you'll be forced to say religion is nothing but a tool to manipulate or shape people's behavior and get people to reason in a controlled manner.

But then again, if you take your skepticism further into the law that establish the origin of things, either living or none-living, one will be compelled to believe that the world couldn't have just erupted from non-existence into existence. Just like it will be so lame to say the phone you're reading this from wasn't made by anyone, that it just sprout into existence from nowhere. We equally cannot say that the house we're living in wasn't built that it just spring into existence.

If you take the thoughts further, the concept of Quran and Bible as being scriptural will become clearer too. Every product should have a manual/job card. That's a concept God himself has put in place for all to follow and that's why every or most human inventions take this order too. For every invention, there's a users guide.

However, how come the existence of God is so questionable from a constructive perspective? I think this is down to our limitations as humans and not God's own flaws because he's the height of perfection. I say this because our knowledge of what is right or wrong was engineered by him... So how do you measure up when the One who wired and engineered our thinking faculty clouded it with his magnanimity and superiority over us. We can only imagine how big he is or how we perceived his supposed 'flaws' but those imaginations can only be within the scope and limit he has permitted us.

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Sermwell(m): 11:18am On Sep 13
Dtruthspeaker:


He is not like you that like to repeat a matter. He does a Thing Once and let's it be.

So also now that there is one Satan who spoils His Works, therefore, All Satans and Satanses that should come after this first Satan, both past, present and future, that should come to spoil His Work Again shall be dealt with decisively.

Therefore All are Brought Together For A Complete And Absolute Expulsion!
You know that Satan will spoil your work and you allow him to him to fester? Why not end him from the start?

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:22am On Sep 13
Sermwell:

You know that Satan will spoil your work and you allow him to him to fester? Why not end him from the start?

Why do you not still understand that I do not want EVER AGAIN, this Satan or any other Satan that is to come, to ever ever spoil my work, Again!

Modified!

This is the Command "All Satans and Satanses, past, present and future come out, have your fun to your fill".

And when they have finished their work, "I will put All of them away from my sight and from my presence forever and ever!"

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by orisa37: 2:43pm On Sep 13
GOD'S WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT'S DONE IN HEAVEN.
Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Blabbermouth: 4:26pm On Sep 13
Sermwell:
The concept of religion doesn't make sense to me at all. I have a lot of questions I want to ask but we seem not to be ready for this conversation. One of the questions is the picture attached below.
Does anybody feel same or I'm the only one??
cc: lalasticlala
cc: Seun
A Just Judge will never send a suspect to prison or proclaim execution until the suspect has been tried, trialed and found guilty as charged.
Until Judgment is passed on Satan, a just God should not just execute him or send him to eternal prison.
Ask other bugging questions by God's grace and revelation you will receive satisfactory answers.
Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Blabbermouth: 4:29pm On Sep 13
Sermwell:

You know that Satan will spoil your work and you allow him to him to fester? Why not end him from the start?
There is nothing like future (I.e. An absolute account of what will happen in the future).
Contrary to popular belief, Lucifer's fall was undefined. Do you know what that means? God never foreknew Lucifer's fall before he created him
Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Blabbermouth: 4:31pm On Sep 13
ggirl4real:
Christianity will be boring without all these confusion and intricacies so I think that's why the writers of the Bible made it confusing.

God knew that the devil will betray Him, yet he created the devil and included him In His cabinet.

The devil became proud and decided to challenge God, God could have destroyed the devil, but No, he allowed him.

Today Christians have to cast and bind the devil all their lives when God can simply destroy the devil to make the Christian life easy for Christians but No, He will not do that.

Abeg OP, I don tire for religious mata.
These are problems caused because people believe the myth that "God knows the future"

Sweetheart, God didn't foreknow that Lucifer will fall

God Will not just Kill Lucifer. He himself (I mean God) claimed he was and still is "Just". Should a just Judge/God execute a spirit without a fair and proper judgment? No! That is why we have a"judgement day"..
Until that day, Satan lives on.
Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Blabbermouth: 4:34pm On Sep 13
thesicilian:
Too many questions to ask. For example, we now know that there are billions of other places in the universe that the demons who rebelled in heaven could have been sent to. Why were they sent to Earth, the only place that God himself meticulously created and placed His beloved humans?
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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Nobody: 4:47pm On Sep 13
Sermwell:
The concept of religion doesn't make sense to me at all. I have a lot of questions I want to ask but we seem not to be ready for this conversation. One of the questions is the picture attached below.
Does anybody feel same or I'm the only one??

cc: lalasticlala
cc: Seun
Jesus didnt die because of the devil but for you and I to have redemption.
Redemption comes at a price not free.
Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Nobody: 4:54pm On Sep 13
Sermwell:
The concept of religion doesn't make sense to me at all. I have a lot of questions I want to ask but we seem not to be ready for this conversation. One of the questions is the picture attached below.
Does anybody feel same or I'm the only one??

cc: lalasticlala
cc: Seun

Most people just want to say what they have in mind, then start seeking approval from others!
That's exactly the same thing you're doing right now!
If you can't grasp the concept why not ask those who truthfully believe (trust) in it?

Well, i believe you want to use your brains to know why this should be so.
My name is Maximus69, i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses, if you care to know why it's the most intelligent thing to do, you can just signal by responding "YES" to this post.
And let's reason together using logics!
Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Sermwell(m): 5:06pm On Sep 13
Blabbermouth:

A Just Judge will never send a suspect to prison or proclaim execution until the suspect has been tried, trialed and found guilty as charged.
Until Judgment is passed on Satan, a just God should not just execute him or send him to eternal prison.
Ask other bugging questions by God's grace and revelation you will receive satisfactory answers.
So you mean up till now the devil is not yet guilty of any wrong doing?? haba!! This your comment is not satisfactory at all.

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Sermwell(m): 5:11pm On Sep 13
Maximus69:


Most people just want to say what they have in mind, then start seeking approval from others!
That's exactly the same thing you're doing right now!
If you can't grasp the concept why not ask those who truthfully believe (trust) in it?

Well, i believe you want to use your brains to know why this should be so.
My name is Maximus69, i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses, if you care to know why it's the most intelligent thing to do, you can just signal by responding "YES" to this post.
And let's reason together using logics!
I don't understand!! Let's hear your opinion here please.

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Sermwell(m): 5:13pm On Sep 13
solite3:

Jesus didnt die because of the devil but for you and I to have redemption.
Redemption comes at a price not free.
Redemption from what if I may ask?? from sin I suppose? who's the author of sin??

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Nobody: 5:29pm On Sep 13
Sermwell:

I don't understand!! Let's hear your opinion here please.

The Bible is a book and just like every other book it comes with theories that needed to be applied practically before you can get the desired results.

So let's do the workings together, i'm sure you'll decipher this yourself!

Please if you're the King of a city who wants all his subjects to respect him as a man of integrity, then a rebel from the Northern part of your kingdom travelled South to initiate some Southerners.
Note that a rebel is challenging your right to rule, but as an integrity keeper you want to prove before all your loyal subjects that your rulership is the best.

So as a just King, will you immediately order for their extermination or give these rebels a fair trial in the presence of all your subjects both in the North (heavens) and in the South (earth)?
Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Janosky: 5:48pm On Sep 13
Sermwell:
The concept of religion doesn't make sense to me at all. I have a lot of questions I want to ask but we seem not to be ready for this conversation. One of the questions is the picture attached below.
Does anybody feel same or I'm the only one??

cc: lalasticlala
cc: Seun

The issues Satan raised during the conversation with Eve required that time must be allowed for the issues to be addressed comprehensively.
Genesis2:15-17 , Yahweh gave instructions to Adam. Gen 2:15-17 is the symbol of Yahweh's authority/sovereignty over mankind.
Genesis3:1-5, Satan circumvented Yahweh's instructions to Adam, he accused Yahweh of hiding stuff/lying toAdam and Eve.
That is, Satan challenged Yahweh's sovereignty.
For instance, if someone accused Sermwell of murder and dishonesty.
If Sermwell shot the accuser dead, would that disprove the allegations laid against Sermwell?
Will everyone present not raise suspicions that you have something to hide?
In other words,if Yahweh executed Satan, will it DISPROVE Satan's claim in Gen 3:1-5?

If Yahweh executed Satan, Will the angels present not raise suspicions& believe that Satan had legitimate claims?

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Nobody: 6:01pm On Sep 13
@Sermwell

Are you still here? smiley
Maximus69:


The Bible is a book and just like every other book it comes with theories that needed to be applied practically before you can get the desired results.

So let's do the workings together, i'm sure you'll decipher this yourself!

Please if you're the King of a city who wants all his subjects to respect him as a man of integrity, then a rebel from the Northern part of your kingdom travelled South to initiate some Southerners.
Note that a rebel is challenging your right to rule, but as an integrity keeper you want to prove before all your loyal subjects that your rulership is the best.

So as a just King, will you immediately order for their extermination or give these rebels a fair trial in the presence of all your subjects both in the North (heavens) and in the South (earth)?

Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Sermwell(m): 6:19pm On Sep 13
Maximus69:


The Bible is a book and just like every other book it comes with theories that needed to be applied practically before you can get the desired results.

So let's do the workings together, i'm sure you'll decipher this yourself!

Please if you're the King of a city who wants all his subjects to respect him as a man of integrity, then a rebel from the Northern part of your kingdom travelled South to initiate some Southerners.
Note that a rebel is challenging your right to rule, but as an integrity keeper you want to prove before all your loyal subjects that your rulership is the best.

So as a just King, will you immediately order for their extermination or give these rebels a fair trial in the presence of all your subjects both in the North (heavens) and in the South (earth)?

Fair trial means to hear your own side of the story or wait for sufficient evidence to establish your guilt! You mean there are no sufficient evidence to establish the devil's guilt? Which other evidence do you need to establish that the devil is who he is??

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Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by MuttleyLaff: 6:37pm On Sep 13
ggirl4real:
Christianity will be boring without all these confusion and intricacies so I think that's why the writers of the Bible made it confusing.
There is nothing confusing in the entirety or whole of the Bible.

ggirl4real:
God knew that the devil will betray Him, yet he created the devil and included him In His cabinet.

The devil became proud and decided to challenge God, God could have destroyed the devil, but No, he allowed him.

Today Christians have to cast and bind the devil all their lives when God can simply destroy the devil to make the Christian life easy for Christians but No, He will not do that.

Abeg OP, I don tire for religious mata.
No true born, kofam, real McCoy believer gets tired of religion, that is true, pure, and the sort of religion, that God finds no flaw or fault in.

Blabbermouth:
These are problems caused because people believe the myth that "God knows the future"

Sweetheart, God didn't foreknow that Lucifer will fall

God Will not just Kill Lucifer. He himself (I mean God) claimed he was and still is "Just". Should a just Judge/God execute a spirit without a fair and proper judgment? No! That is why we have a "judgement day"..
Until that day, Satan lives on.
Why are you mentioning me, but then you go back to editing your post and also removing the mention and comment you made relating to it, hmm?

Everyone is in a queue, I respond to posts/comments when they get at front. It doesnt mean, I won't be responding or I am ignoring, it's just that, I most times, am doing catching up or letting some jump the queue.

Fyi, if you had during our chatroom interaction session, given me a detailed explanation how God Harden Pharaoh's heart, you wouldn't be contesting with ggirl4real, that God never knew that the devil will betray Him, yet He created the devil and included him In His cabinet. You see your life now, hmm?

I have never stopped, saying that, every creativity/creation, has a fundamental right to come into existence, and not just that, but exist to freely express itself/himself/herself. The devil, Pharaoh, Hitler, Genghis Khan, Constantine, Abacha, IBB et cetera each and all have the right to exist and express themselves according to how their nature dictates or allows them

God, the Omni-Know-Everything, Omni-Know-All, Omni-Know-What's-In-Your-Heart, Omni-Know-All-Moves, was aware, knew before the day it will happen that the devil will misbehave, just the same way, He knew Pharaoh would go bad, even arrogate himself to be god, a deity.
Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by Blabbermouth: 6:38pm On Sep 13
Sermwell:

So you mean up till now the devil is not yet guilty of any wrong doing?? haba!! This your comment is not satisfactory at all.
Mention 3 things he is guilty of.
Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by MuttleyLaff: 6:44pm On Sep 13
Sermwell:
So you mean up till now the devil is not yet guilty of any wrong doing?? haba!! This your comment is not satisfactory at all.

Blabbermouth:
Mention 3 things he is guilty of.
To mention/list just three out of others, then albeit not in any particular order:
1/ Treachery
2/ Pride
3/ Covetousness

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