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Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by AllOfUsAtManna(f): 3:10am On Sep 24, 2020
the way some APC supporters hype Oshiomole sometimes makes me think if he has ever done anything extraordinary for the party or something that has never been done.

Let's analyze both apc chairmen tenure.


Oyegun

APC broke record of the first party in Nigeria to dispatch an incumbent president
under him
PDP was nearly sent to oblivion with like 12 states to them while APC dominates the rest including national assembly

under him apc was more united than what we have today.

Under him apc was a national party as it's supposed to be.

Oshiomole

APC lost more states to PDP either carelessly like that of Zamfara, Rivers and of course Bayelsa or by direct polls.
PDP came back to life with 16 states to 18 states of APC and 1 APGA (who are by the way loyal to PDP)
if not for brazen rigging and federal might by now PDP would have had more states than APC places like Osun, Kano and Imo a case of study.

under him APC is no more (confirmed by Rochas)
yes APC online supporters might find this hard to believe but that's the reality.
Buhari is the only binding factor of apc now.

Under him APC a ruling party became a regional party something that has never happened in the history of Nigeria.
yes APC is no longer in SS and if not for supreme Court interference both SS and SE won't have APC by now.
while PDP a supposed dead party and opposition party is scattered across the country.

under him the party declined to the lowest and cannot win any elections without federal might.


now my question to apc supporters who are always hailing Oshiomole

1. on what basis are you hyping Oshiomole?

2. what has Oshiomole done for the party that has never be done before by the previous chairman?

3. did Oshiomole moved your party forward or backward?




Let's discuss

lalasticlala

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by Newman20(m): 3:17am On Sep 24, 2020
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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by Newman20(m): 3:20am On Sep 24, 2020
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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by AllOfUsAtManna(f): 3:23am On Sep 24, 2020
Newman20:
But really, I think it was just the circumstances that made him look responsible for the decline of APC. After all when something goes bad there must be a scapegoat to bear it.
and he sank the party lower than he met it.

fact is that Oyegun is more diplomatic than Oshiomole.
no be everything be gra gra

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by Newman20(m): 3:26am On Sep 24, 2020
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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by AllOfUsAtManna(f): 3:31am On Sep 24, 2020
Newman20:



Well that is true.


But I miss those days when Oshiomole fought for the rights of the people. I don't know at what point he got money hungry and changed everything cry


The person that said power corrupts wasn't lying
Oshiomole did what an average Nigerian activist does or did.

there's nothing like activism in Nigeria
those claiming activists are just doing so because their person is not in power to invite them to come and chop.
Nigeria politics money can never be resisted by anyone activists or not.

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by Nobody: 3:31am On Sep 24, 2020
Well, most people still have respect for Oshiomole because of his labour days where the country believed in him and could even choose to follow his ideas than that of the president or head of state. During this period, Oshiomole was the man of the people, not until politics and power took and engulf him...

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by Newman20(m): 3:38am On Sep 24, 2020
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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by Amotolongbo(f): 3:43am On Sep 24, 2020
Oshiomhole was nothing but pencil in the hand of his creator, Tinubu

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by joyandfaith: 3:47am On Sep 24, 2020
Amotolongbo:
Oshiomhole was nothing but pencil in the hand of his creator, Tinubu

even his labour activism was sponsored by tinubu.
Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by Amotolongbo(f): 3:54am On Sep 24, 2020
joyandfaith:


even his labour activism was sponsored by tinubu.
The Labour activism was sponsored by his stomach.

Moreover, is the thread about his labor activism or party?
What kinda hellish question is this? undecided

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by AllOfUsAtManna(f): 3:56am On Sep 24, 2020
Newman20:



You are very right about that



Anyway, I agree with you on your first post where you stated Oyegun was better than oshopikin at APC


Enjoy the rest of your day Manna wink
you too
Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by gbowoade85142: 4:10am On Sep 24, 2020
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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by ursullalinda(f): 4:17am On Sep 24, 2020
AllOfUsAtManna:
and he sank the party lower than he met it.

fact is that Oyegun is more diplomatic than Oshiomole.
no be everything be gra gra




Exactly!......Oshiomole is very vindictive and acted like a demi god..... He made more enemies than friends and believed with Tinubu's backing he can get away with anything.

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by Haywhysat: 4:28am On Sep 24, 2020
AllOfUsAtManna:

yes APC is no longer in SS and if not for supreme Court interference both SS and SE won't have APC by now.


lalasticlala


This is false, if not for supreme Court, APC would still have state in SS, Bayelsa
Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by Abaramanasseho(m): 4:44am On Sep 24, 2020
[quote author=AllOfUsAtManna post=94243859]the way some APC supporters hype Oshiomole sometimes makes me think if he has ever done anything extraordinary for the party or something that has never been done.

Let's analyze both apc chairmen tenure.


Oyegun

APC broke record of the first party in Nigeria to dispatch an incumbent president
under him
PDP was nearly sent to oblivion with like 12 states to them while APC dominates the rest including national assembly

under him apc was more united than what we have today.

Under him apc was a national party as it's supposed to be.

Oshiomole

APC lost more states to PDP either carelessly like that of Zamfara, Rivers and of course Bayelsa or by direct polls.
PDP came back to life with 16 states to 18 states of APC and 1 APGA (who are by the way loyal to PDP)
if not for brazen rigging and federal might by now PDP would have had more states than APC places like Osun, Kano and Imo a case of study.

under him APC is no more (confirmed by Rochas)
yes APC online supporters might find this hard to believe but that's the reality.
Buhari is the only binding factor of apc now.

Under him APC a ruling party became a regional party something that has never happened in the history of Nigeria.
yes APC is no longer in SS and if not for supreme Court interference both SS and SE won't have APC by now.
while PDP a supposed dead party and opposition party is scattered across the country.

under him the party declined to the lowest and cannot win any elections without federal might.


now my question to apc supporters who are always hailing Oshiomole

1. on what basis are you hyping Oshiomole?

2. what has Oshiomole done for the party that has never be done before by the previous chairman?

3. did Oshiomole moved your party forward or backward?




Let's discuss

one thing that is sure about oshomole is that he is great fighter. and know he real enemy, oyegun is not happy that he was replaced by oshomole and so refuse from day one to support him likewise his foot soldier's unlike when oyegun was there alot of party faithful supported oyegun with everything. what I will like to chip in concerning the duo is that oyegun and companies are the one frustrating oshomole effort because he don't want oshomole to out perform him but for me oshomole has tried by winning name for the party till now because what he is fighting is not just opposition party alone but people within him that says he can out perform them just like the way obasanjo is doing to every government after him.
Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by Finnese001: 5:14am On Sep 24, 2020
grin



PARTY SCATTER

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by Finnese001: 5:20am On Sep 24, 2020
Newman20:
Didn't you know OSHOPIKIN was overhyped before. grin


grin

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by NGpatriot: 5:37am On Sep 24, 2020
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AllOfUsAtManna:
the way some APC supporters hype Oshiomole sometimes makes me think if he has ever done anything extraordinary for the party or something that has never been done.

Let's analyze both apc chairmen tenure.


Oyegun

APC broke record of the first party in Nigeria to dispatch an incumbent president
under him
PDP was nearly sent to oblivion with like 12 states to them while APC dominates the rest including national assembly

under him apc was more united than what we have today.

Under him apc was a national party as it's supposed to be.

Oshiomole

APC lost more states to PDP either carelessly like that of Zamfara, Rivers and of course Bayelsa or by direct polls.
PDP came back to life with 16 states to 18 states of APC and 1 APGA (who are by the way loyal to PDP)
if not for brazen rigging and federal might by now PDP would have had more states than APC places like Osun, Kano and Imo a case of study.

under him APC is no more (confirmed by Rochas)
yes APC online supporters might find this hard to believe but that's the reality.
Buhari is the only binding factor of apc now.

Under him APC a ruling party became a regional party something that has never happened in the history of Nigeria.
yes APC is no longer in SS and if not for supreme Court interference both SS and SE won't have APC by now.
while PDP a supposed dead party and opposition party is scattered across the country.

under him the party declined to the lowest and cannot win any elections without federal might.


now my question to apc supporters who are always hailing Oshiomole

1. on what basis are you hyping Oshiomole?

2. what has Oshiomole done for the party that has never be done before by the previous chairman?

3. did Oshiomole moved your party forward or backward?




Let's discuss

lalasticlala
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The most important achievements, defeating and killing Atiku's presidential ambition.

Kicking Saraki, Dino and other useless clowns out of the Senate are are better achievements than all the oyegun rubbish you listed.

He won in Lagos, Ogun, Ekiti, Kwara, Kogi, Imo and so on.

Go back and rewrite your essay.

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by ican2020: 6:00am On Sep 24, 2020
Oyegun na father while Oshiomole na poking

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by aremuforlife(m): 6:04am On Sep 24, 2020
Oshomole brought sanity to ruling party, why will you compare pa Oyegun to Oshomole. Oshomole fought a good fight, are you talking about the former party leader that can't control his party members, where the opposition within the ruling party are more powerful than the real progressives.
The real progressive knows what Oshomole did. Whag do you think would have happened if pa Oyegun was the one that campaign against Atiku and his machineries. Oshomole is a disciplinarian, sometimes, we tend to take them for wickedness.
Nigeria and Nigerians are lawless people living in a lawless contry. We always claim to be holy but we appreciate the criminals.
Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by tobechi74: 6:50am On Sep 24, 2020
Oshiomole was autocratc ouegun I'd democratic. One brought cooperation among various groups.the other brought division



https://tobechispeaks./2020/09/15/crusaders-fighting-for-a-cause/

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by AllOfUsAtManna(f): 6:56am On Sep 24, 2020
NGpatriot:
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The most important achievements, defeating and killing Atiku's presidential ambition.

Kicking Saraki, Dino and other useless clowns out of the Senate are are better achievements than all the oyegun rubbish you listed.

He won in Lagos, Ogun, Ekiti, Kwara, Kogi, Imo and so on.

Go back and rewrite your essay.

this is a discussion for sane minds
keep that in mind

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by AllOfUsAtManna(f): 7:01am On Sep 24, 2020
aremuforlife:
Oshomole brought sanity to ruling party, why will you compare pa Oyegun to Oshomole. Oshomole fought a good fight, are you talking about the former party leader that can't control his party members, where the opposition within the ruling party are more powerful than the real progressives.
The real progressive knows what Oshomole did. Whag do you think would have happened if pa Oyegun was the one that campaign against Atiku and his machineries. Oshomole is a disciplinarian, sometimes, we tend to take them for wickedness.
Nigeria and Nigerians are lawless people living in a lawless contry. We always claim to be holy but we appreciate the criminals.
a disciplinarian that ruined his party.
agbero tactics no dey work in some cases sometimes.
that's what Oshiomole lacked.

in all ramifications Oyegun outperformed it if you can tell yourself the truth.

the only reason yerobas love Oshiomole is because of his loyalty to Tinubu
that's all

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by AllOfUsAtManna(f): 7:02am On Sep 24, 2020
lalasticlala

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by pinkgoodies(m): 7:06am On Sep 24, 2020
AllOfUsAtManna:
and he sank the party lower than he met it.

fact is that Oyegun is more diplomatic than Oshiomole.
no be everything be gra gra

The party was already sinking before it was left in his care, oyegun handled a party yearning for change with the only interest of everyone to boot PDP out, unlike the APC of oshiomole
That were after 2023 interest.
Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by Friend22(m): 7:15am On Sep 24, 2020
AllOfUsAtManna:
a disciplinarian that ruined his party.
agbero tactics no dey work in some cases sometimes.
that's what Oshiomole lacked.

in all ramifications Oyegun outperformed it if you can tell yourself the truth.

the only reason yerobas love Oshiomole is because of his loyalty to Tinubu
that's all

Oyegun was visibly unknown in APC.
It was actually the coming together of Buhari and Tinubu that actually brought APC to where it is.
It had little or nothing to do with Oyegu's capacity as a party leader.
So stop comparing apples to oranges.

The write up is just so insipid for my liking.

If you were to sit down and compare the circumstances you will see that Oshiomike towers far above Oyegu as a party chairman.

Or you forgot that it was under the sane Oyegu the likes of Saraki and Dogara were busy playing
opposition in the same party and he couldn't do anything.
Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by AllOfUsAtManna(f): 7:21am On Sep 24, 2020
Friend22:


Oyegun was visibly unknown in APC.
It was actually the coming together of Buhari and Tinubu that actually brought APC to where it is.
It had little or nothing to do with Oyegu's capacity as a party leader.
So stop comparing apples to oranges.

The write up is just so insipid for my liking.

If you were to sit down and compare the circumstances you will see that Oshiomike towers far above Oyegu as a party chairman.

Or you forgot that it was under the sane Oyegu the likes of Saraki and Dogara were busy playing
opposition in the same party and he couldn't do anything.



and he ended up losing more states both at the polls and carelessly.
under him apc had no candidate in Rivers and automatically died as a party in the state.
under him both Zamfara and Bayelsa was handed over to PDP on a platter of gold.
what do you call that if not incompetence and negligence.
sometimes make una tell unaselves the truth.

the only reason yerobas love Oshiomole I repeat is because of his loyalty to Tinubu

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by mosdii(m): 8:11am On Sep 24, 2020
yes APC is no longer in SS and if not for supreme Court interference both SS and SE won't have APC by now.

We tend to forget history so quick despite you pointing out Bayelsa state as a case study.

If not for supreme court interference, SS would have had an APC state in Bayelsa state.

His style might be wrong because he stepped on too many toes in trying to do what he thinks is right for the party thereby causing harm to the party unknowing to him.

He equally tried in some areas that are glaring for all eyes, his game might not be good enough but he tried his best in weeding out chronic antagonists of the party to some extent.
Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by kenben: 8:15am On Sep 24, 2020
Oyegun was far better.

In the history of Nigerian politics Oyegun is the only chairman of a ruling party who successfully completed his tenure in office.

His tactful and diplomatic approach to issues made it possible for APC to win the trust and earn the respect of Nigerins.

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Re: Oshiomole Vs Oyegun As APC Chairman: Is Oshiomole Overrated? by AllOfUsAtManna(f): 8:35am On Sep 24, 2020
mosdii:

yes APC is no longer in SS and if not for supreme Court interference both SS and SE won't have APC by now.

We tend to forget history so quick despite you pointing out Bayelsa state as a case study.

If not for supreme court interference, SS would have had an APC state in Bayelsa state.

His style might be wrong because he stepped on too many toes in trying to do what he thinks is right for the party thereby causing harm to the party unknowing to him.

He equally tried in some areas that are glaring for all eyes, his game might not be good enough but he tried his best in weeding out chronic antagonists of the party to some extent.
but you can't compare Bayelsa and Imo case can you?
while Imo was a total daylight robbery from the supreme Court
Bayelsa was a pure silly mistake from the party excos in charge of screening.
that's incompetence.

Oshiomole only used his position to serve the purpose of those that brought him to power as the party chairman.
how do you think you can sit down somewhere in Abuja and dictate for a sitting governor who's is automatically the leader of the party in his state.
that's why the APC Governors ganged up against him because if you support him today tomorrow it might be your turn.
remember all these are not for the sake of the party but for those that worked for his position.
his loyalty lies to them and not the party.

oyegun far more better than him

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