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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:30pm On Nov 20
Blabbermouth:

Teaching is not exactly mediating.

Mediating is all about an entity between two parties Jesus only served as the person between mankind and God, after perfection Jesus will no more be needed between us and God! 1Corinthians 15:26-28

So Jesus' assignment ends when we become perfect, which means it's imperfection that warrant the task Jesus is taking up presently.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 3:04pm On Nov 20
Barristter07:


The same people the Bible called Flesh and bones have blood. And now that you know that humans are Sharers of flesh and blood. It means Jesus is human =Jesus has blood in heaven .

Flesh and blood Now inherit Kingdom of God ?
Yes people have blood but to show that flesh and bones is enough to describe a human hence the use of it.
It is natural for a human to posses blood but God can easily over ride the natural without altering the identity of humanity, same way he did in Christ,

No human can be conceived without the union of man and woman, All humans that are conceived and born are conceived through the union of man and woman but yet Christ defiled that would you say christ is no human because he was not conceived under natural means? If not you cant also dismiss the fact that Christ can also be human without blood.
grin

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 3:05pm On Nov 20
Janosky:


Bros, your 3 gods is not the one true God, Yahweh Himself.

You don't know Yahweh or His Servant, Jesus Christ.
John 20:17, argue with Jesus.


Yahweh Himself is NOT your 3 persons gods themselves.

STOP DECEIVING yourself.

cheesy grin cheesy grin
which one is three Gods! But Jehovah witnesses believes there are millions of Gods like Jehovah grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 3:09pm On Nov 20
livingchrist:
Yes people have blood but to show that flesh and bones is enough to describe a human hence the use of it.
It is natural for a human to posses blood but God can easily over ride the natural without altering the identity of humanity, same way he did in Christ,

No human can be conceived without the union of man and woman, All humans that are conceived and born are conceived through the union of man and woman but yet Christ defiled that would you say christ is no human because he was not conceived under natural means? If not you cant also dismiss the fact that Christ can also be human without blood.
grin

I like the situation you are right now. It has gotten to the point where all evidece fails for you and the " who knows ? " card is been played.

Let me Chip in something you don't know , Hebrew 2:14 said it clearly that humans are creatures of flesh and blood. I stand on that, you can't be human without blood.

Would you say Adam was conceived by sex ? Or Eve was formed through sex ? God himself created Adam, Eve and work that of Jesus, and created others by means of sex . So the mode of conception has nothing to do with their nature, no matter the mode , they retain humanity . What matters is THEY are all Humans with Flesh and blood. That's an human.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 3:13pm On Nov 20
Janosky:


Mr LIENUS the Second cheesy grin

Luke 24:4-5,22-23
While they were perplexed about this, suddenly two men in dazzling clothes stood beside them. 5 The women were terrified and bowed their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, “Why do you look for the living among the dead? He is not here, but has risen.
22 Moreover, some women of our group astounded us. They were at the tomb early this morning, 23 and when they did not find his body there, they came back and told us that they had indeed seen a vision of angels who said that he was alive.

The two angels, spirits called men are what ?
cheesy grin
Angels are men simply base on how they appear, no Angel can say he has flesh and bones.
cheesy

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 3:23pm On Nov 20
Barristter07:


I like the situation you are right now. It has gotten to the point where all evidece fails for you and the " who knows ? " card is been played.

Let me Chip in something you don't know , Hebrew 2:14 said it clearly that humans are creatures of flesh and blood. I stand on that, you can't be human without blood.

Would you say Adam was conceived by sex ? Or Eve was formed through sex ? God himself created Adam, Eve and work that of Jesus, and created others by means of sex . So the mode of conception has nothing to do with their nature, no matter the mode , they retain humanity . What matters is THEY are all Humans with Flesh and blood. That's an human.


was Adam and Eve concieved?
Yes mode of conception matters, can a human be conceived without male and female coming together?

You cant be a human conceived without having father and mother, it is part of our humanity?

cheesy oya talk

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 3:27pm On Nov 20
livingchrist:

cheesy was Adam and Eve concieved?
Yes mode of conception matters, can a human be conceived without male and female coming together?

You cant be a human conceived without having father and mother, it is part of our humanity?

cheesy oya talk

Adam and Eve , creatures of flesh and blood

Jesus birth , He was a creature of flesh and blood .


You can't be human without Blood Hebrews 2:14 said Jesus and every other human , Share the same humanity, despite difference in mode of conception. You see your life outside

Are you now READY to tell us if Jesus is Truly human in heaven ?

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 4:29pm On Nov 20
Barristter07:


Adam and Eve , creatures of flesh and blood

Jesus birth , He was a creature of flesh and blood .


You can't be human without Blood Hebrews 2:14 said Jesus and every other human , Share the same humanity, despite difference in mode of conception. You see your life outside

Are you now READY to tell us if Jesus is Truly human in heaven ?




humans that came from Adam has flesh and blood.
Jesus is the second Adam and all who come through Jesus will bear same image.
So yes Jesus is human only a new type.
The bible already gave you a hint by calling humans flesh and bones even though they had blood, this just to tell you that humans can exist as just flesh and bones without blood.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 6:23pm On Nov 20
Barristter07:
No . 1 Timothy 2:5,6 refer to his past in human flesh and blood. It says " Gave "

Jesus is a life giving SPIRIT. Not an human anymore

So is Jesus still a Mediator now or not?

The masculine gender is used for Jesus after resurrection, then Jesus must be Human.

The Elders nullify your claim. They are Spirits not humans, yet called Elders, which proved the word was applied to even spirit beings . If they are humans , provide where they are called one ?

The WORD used for them has NEVER BEEN USED FOR A SPIRIT BEING, isn't that clear that they are HUMAN? oponu!

No single shame

Do you saw the Highlighted Mr Gender in Heaven?

This clearly isn't human Ressurection of Male and Females , but spirit beings.
Emusan debunked

I've pointed it out to you that, that verse isn't about resurrection but your deluded mind fussed resurrection into it. In fact that verse is against your gender claim as IN CHRIST there is no female or male.

Change means to REPLACE .

But OUR MORTAL BODIES will PUT ON not to replace, that's your own senseless interpretation not from the scripture.

Our bodies are like tents that we live in here on earth. But when these TENTS ARE DESTROYED, we know that God will give each of us a place to live. These homes will not be buildings that someone has made, but they are in heaven and will last forever. 2 While we are here on earth, we sigh because we want to live in that heavenly home. 3 We want to put it on like clothes and not be naked. 2 Cor 5:1-3 CEV

This is evident that our spirit resides in our body since the body said to be LIKE TENT and verse 3 made it clear that the HOME GOD will provide for in HEAVEN we want to PUT IT ON LIKE CLOTHES no talk of BECOMING SPIRIT BEING HERE but to PUT A NEW BODY ON. This is talking about the New BODIES promised ALL BELIEVERS.

The point of emphasis is " conform to his glorious body " , if what appeared to Thomas is what your deluded head call glorious body, it simply means Ressurected ones will also retain wounds, accident scars , Fire burns, hunchbacks.

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 6:26pm On Nov 20
Janosky:


Bros, your 3 gods is not the one true God, Yahweh Himself.

You don't know Yahweh or His Servant, Jesus Christ.
John 20:17, argue with Jesus.


Yahweh Himself is NOT your 3 persons gods themselves.

STOP DECEIVING yourself.

cheesy grin cheesy grin

Cry me a river!

Says the deluded JWs who doesn't have single connection with the true God YAHWEH who is neither partial nor lie.

You claim I don't know Jesus but still asked to argue with Jesus. For me to argue with Jesus means I know where He is and how to locate Him. Do you?

Your father the Devil, you know him! Run to him...

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 6:28pm On Nov 20
Barristter07:


grin grin grin Unbelievers don't have spirit of God but the Spirit gives life to their mortal bodies.? By now you should keep shut on this Romans 8:11 , it doesn't help your case.

Says the deluded JWs who say the unbelievers have the Spirit of God in them yet going from house to house to preach to the same unbelievers who already have the Spirit of God.

See how he used style boycot my post....

You must tell us where Holy Spirit get the sperm to fertilize Mary's womb on this thread, since you believe Holy Spirit slept with Mary!

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 6:31pm On Nov 20
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is enough to make you happy my friend, just forget about me after all i'm a worshiper of a different God so keep worshipping your God! smiley

When did the friendship start Maximumu

Since your own god can't bless me, I'm still waiting for the name of the GOD YOU INVOKE to bless me...

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:46pm On Nov 20
Emusan, it's not compulsory you and i worship the same God!
Since you're sure that yours is the true God, then i'm contended with my own and the worshipers of my own God (JWs).
Thanks Sir! smiley



Emusan:


When did the friendship start Maximumu

Since your own god can't bless me, I'm still waiting for the name of the GOD YOU INVOKE to bless me...


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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 7:00pm On Nov 20
Emusan:


Cry me a river!

Says the deluded JWs who doesn't have single connection with the true God YAHWEH who is neither partial nor lie.

You claim I don't know Jesus but still asked to argue with Jesus. For me to argue with Jesus means I know where He is and how to locate Him. Do you?

Your father the Devil, you know him! Run to him...
cheesy grin
Dey there DECEIVE yourself.

John 17:3, Jesus Christ says he is a Messenger of the One true God, his Father.

John 20:17, Jesus Christ have denied you forever.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 7:13pm On Nov 20
Emusan:


*1

The masculine gender is used for Jesus after resurrection, then Jesus must be Human.

*2


But OUR MORTAL BODIES will PUT ON not to replace, that's your own senseless interpretation not from the scripture.

Our bodies are like tents that we live in here on earth. But when these TENTS ARE DESTROYED, we know that God will give each of us a place to live. These homes will not be buildings that someone has made, but they are in heaven and will last forever. 2 While we are here on earth, we sigh because we want to live in that heavenly home. 3 We want to put it on like clothes and not be naked. 2 Cor 5:1-3 CEV

This is evident that our spirit resides in our body since the body said to be LIKE TENT and verse 3 made it clear that the HOME GOD will provide for in HEAVEN we want to PUT IT ON LIKE CLOTHES no talk of BECOMING SPIRIT BEING HERE but to PUT A NEW BODY ON. This is talking about the New BODIES promised ALL BELIEVERS.

*1
1 Corinthians15:45 first Adam is human on earth. 2nd Adam, Jesus Christ is spirit in heaven.

Emusan gospel is LIENUS.

*2
The tent destroyed on earth naim Mr LIENUS dey export to heaven.
Mr LIENUS is a joke.

cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 7:20pm On Nov 20
livingchrist:
Angels are men simply base on how they appear, no Angel can say he has flesh and bones.
cheesy
At Luke 24:4 ,23 those angels called 'men', did they appear as flesh ?
cheesy grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 7:30pm On Nov 20
livingchrist:
which one is three Gods! But Jehovah witnesses believes there are millions of Gods like Jehovah grin

Bros why you dey deny your Bible,1 Cor 8:5-6?
"There are millions of Theos in heaven and earth"
There is ONLY one true Theos, Yahweh the Father of Jesus and JWs, John 20:17.

Bros no dey DECEIVE yourself,
Triune gods = Trinity.
cheesy grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 8:28pm On Nov 20
Janosky:

At Luke 24:4 ,23 those angels called 'men', did they appear as flesh ?
cheesy grin
That's identification, not nature.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 8:34pm On Nov 20
Janosky:

At Luke 24:4 ,23 those angels called 'men', did they appear as flesh ?
cheesy grin
Did the Angels ever say they posses flesh and bones? cheesy

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 8:39pm On Nov 20
livingchrist:
Did the Angels ever say they posses flesh and bones? cheesy
What did 2 angels possess when Luke24 called them men?
cheesy cheesy grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 9:43pm On Nov 20
Janosky:

What did 2 angels possess when Luke24 called them men?
cheesy cheesy grin
grin appearance is not form, Angels can appear in human appearance it doesnt mean they possess flesh.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 9:54pm On Nov 20
livingchrist:
grin appearance is not form, Angels can appear in human appearance it doesnt mean they possess flesh.

Good!
Jesus too took the appearance of human to be visible.
But, his nature after resurrection is 'Spirit' (1 pet 3:18)

Thanks wink
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 10:21pm On Nov 20
haddeylium:


Good!
Jesus too took the appearance of human to be visible.
But, his nature after resurrection is 'Spirit' (1 pet 3:18)

Thanks wink
grin Jesus said he possesses flesh and bones which automatically mean Jesus was human

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 11:00pm On Nov 20
livingchrist:
grin Jesus said he possesses flesh and bones which automatically mean Jesus was human
Jesus: I have flesh and bones
JW: No bro, you are only wearing flesh and bones.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 11:05pm On Nov 20
livingchrist:
grin Jesus said he possesses flesh and bones which automatically mean Jesus was human
Yeah Jesus was human before his death

Still the same thing grin
The Angels appear in human form; for them to be referred to as Men!... That's what they called Materialized body. With Flesh supported with Structural framework
But their Nature still remain as Spirit; which is Invisible to human eyes

Thanks!
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 6:39am On Nov 21
haddeylium:

Yeah Jesus was human before his death

Still the same thing grin
The Angels appear in human form; for them to be referred to as Men!... That's what they called Materialized body. With Flesh supported with Structural framework
But their Nature still remain as Spirit; which is Invisible to human eyes

Thanks!
No angel has ever said they have flesh and bones like Jesus said.
Secondly, Jesus body was resurrected never to be destroyed again,
The bible said Jesus body never suffered any corruption meaning Jesus body was not dissolved, or disintegrated.

Acts 2:31
He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Acts 13:34
And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.

Note, It is the body that suffer corruption but you see that Jesus body was no more to see corruption meaning it was raised.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 6:41am On Nov 21
Blabbermouth:

Jesus: I have flesh and bones
JW: No bro, you are only wearing flesh and bones.
that is what they cant grasped, there is a difference between wearing something and possessing something.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 7:48am On Nov 21
MaxInDHouse:
Emusan, it's not compulsory you and i worship the same God!

Then who says it's compulsory before?

Since you're sure that yours is the true God, then i'm contended with my own and the worshipers of my own God (JWs). Thanks Sir! smiley

All I'm asking you is to tell me THE NAME of God you invoke to Bless Me since your own God can't bless.

How is that one an issue?

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 7:51am On Nov 21
Janosky:

cheesy grin
Dey there DECEIVE yourself.

John 17:3, Jesus Christ says he is a Messenger of the One true God, his Father.

John 20:17, Jesus Christ have denied you forever.



But you asked me to argue with Jesus after you know you don't have any relationship with Him.

So Jesus is a messenger and NOT SON again

This attach by force on Jesus won't save you, your father the Devil knows his children.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 3:45pm On Nov 21
Emusan:

Says the deluded JWs who say the unbelievers have the Spirit of God in them yet going from house to house to preach to the same unbelievers who already have the Spirit of God.

Radarada grin in your bid to prove nonsense , you cage yourself. If unbelievers don't have spirit of God , how come their mortal bodies are Made Alive too ? In short they get the same spiritual body , O ma se fun Emusan o grin



See how he used style boycot my post....

You must tell us where Holy Spirit get the sperm to fertilize Mary's womb on this thread, since you believe Holy Spirit slept with Mary!

Shebi holy spirit is a person and a " He " , according to your rants on this thread . You have your answer .
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 3:53pm On Nov 21
livingchrist:
No
The bible said Jesus body never suffered any corruption meaning Jesus body was not dissolved, or disintegrated.
Acts 2:31
He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Acts 13:34
And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.
Note, It is the body that suffer corruption but you see that Jesus body was no more to see corruption meaning it was raised.

Exactly man!
@bolden
This is to show that a human body(Even if it's perfect like Jesus) is corruptible. It can be killed!

That's why Apostle Paul that the resurrected Jesus was “Never no more to return to corruption.” (Acts 13:34)
That is that is, never to return to life in a corruptible human body. compare with (1 Corinthians 15:43, 44)
grab?

Jesus was resurrected as a glorious spirit body which is incorruptible, invisible and Immaterial.

Thanks
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 3:54pm On Nov 21
Emusan:


So is Jesus still a Mediator now or not?

The masculine gender is used for Jesus after resurrection, then Jesus must be Human.

The same masculine gender was applied to the Father , is he human ?

For Jesus to be human, he must have blood . Hebrews 2:14 Humans are creatures of flesh and blood.

Either admit this or keep ranting



The WORD used for them has NEVER BEEN USED FOR A SPIRIT BEING, isn't that clear that they are HUMAN? oponu!
But they are Spirits . Oga give me where they are called Human beings ? grin


I've pointed it out to you that, that verse isn't about resurrection but your deluded mind fussed resurrection into it. In fact that verse is against your gender claim as IN CHRIST there is no female or male.


Humans are Male and Females , So how is there no Male and female ? Is something doing your head ni grin ?

If people remain humans in heaven, they exist as Male and Females. contradicting that verse



But OUR MORTAL BODIES will PUT ON not to replace, that's your own senseless interpretation not from the scripture.

Our bodies are like tents that we live in here on earth. But when these TENTS ARE DESTROYED, we know that God will give each of us a place to live. These homes will not be buildings that someone has made, but they are in heaven and will last forever. 2 While we are here on earth, we sigh because we want to live in that heavenly home. 3 We want to put it on like clothes and not be naked. 2 Cor 5:1-3 CEV

This is evident that our spirit resides in our body since the body said to be LIKE TENT and verse 3 made it clear that the HOME GOD will provide for in HEAVEN we want to PUT IT ON LIKE CLOTHES no talk of BECOMING SPIRIT BEING HERE but to PUT A NEW BODY ON. This is talking about the New BODIES promised ALL BELIEVERS.

The same body that has rot and become dust will be put on. it's TOTAL Change not putting new over the rotten one , use your God given sense .


And the new body - Spirit body or Human body ?

If you say spirit body okay.

But human body, Humans are flesh and blood and humans are males and females, will they be male and Female in Christ ?


1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion.

Robot , you have replied with this again. It's very clear you can't counter that point. E big pass you

Since what appear to Thomas is a Glorious body, ressurected ones will also retain Wounds and marks , Hunchback, accident burns , so far it's to be fashioned like that of Christ which has wounds .

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