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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 1:30pm On Nov 22
livingchrist:
only humans are called flesh and bones, You claim spirit materialize body right and they are called humans, at the same time time contradict yourself that blood is required to be humans. grin
It means spirit's can not materialize to become humans but yet Jesus is called humans.
See your life

A spirit materializing body has the appearance of a man, but they are not. If it's that easy, Jesus would have materialized rather than been carried in the womb for 9 months to come as flesh and blood. For Jesus to be human, he must possess blood.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 1:32pm On Nov 22
Barristter07:
You actually quoted it when you were asked What's the difference between Sinners human body and the so called human spiritual body ( a term not even scriptural )

You now quote and said Believers body are quickened by the spirit , but Sinners are not.

Say something better!

I quoted that verse to proof to you that AT RESURRECTION both believers and unbelievers are resurrected the same way BUT WHAT MAKES BELIEVERS OWN different is that the SPIRIT OF GOD WHO LIVES IN BELIEVERS will transform their body to be fashioned with that of Glorified Jesus.

This is when you and that your deluded brother trying to proof that both unbelievers and believers will be resurrected and that means unbelievers will also have the glorified body of Christ as you repeated below.

"Yet God raised Jesus to life! God’s Spirit now lives in you, and he will raise you to life by his Spirit." Rom 8:11 CEV

See how believers' resurrection was linked with that of Christ.

That's why I keep asking you if the SPIRIT OF GOD LIVES IN UNBELIEVERS as well. Which you said YES!


Oponu radarada.

That time your small thinking forgot that Quickened means to make Alive , So in short sinners also got spiritual body too since their mortal bodies were made alive

Go back to that my post and see the reason I cited that verse.

Lying liar.

At least you have said unbelievers have the Spirit of God in them and everybody read that here.

So continue your lies like your father the Devil!

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 1:43pm On Nov 22
Emusan:


See the lying liar mouth, no wonder your father the Devil is so much proud of you
The idiot now twisted it to John 4:24 when he openly said "SPIRIT persons (plural) are represented as Neuter in scriptures."
This is even in support of his claim that Angels HAS NO GENDER which means whenever the heavenly beings are being discussed in the scripture it is always in NEUTER.
But after the lying liar was debunked that masculine noun is being used for Jesus even after His resurrection, the tune change.
Oponu oniro jatijati.
That's not your point, your point to proof that Angels don't marry since they have no genders leads to that your lies above.
Another lie from the lying liar mouth!

The word rendered " Spirit" is neuter , neither male not female. Which is my point


Jehovah is A MAN of war! Says the Holy scripture.
The same bible said God is not a man.

Every description of Jehovah is considered anthropomorphic , becauSe he is not human.

Either Jesus is human with Full blood or the usage are anthropomorphic . Pick one


My point is, the word translated as PEOPLE, HUMAN in Rev 21:3 was also used for Jesus. QED!
So Jesus has Blood like other humans ?


As your stupidity has First Class upper.
Does Jesus still the Mediator now in heaven? This question will continue to put your lying mouth in coven of your father the Devil.
Yes. He still mediates as an Human with full blood in his veins.


So you then agree that the word MAN (which means flesh and blood according to you) can be used for a spirit being which rendered your Rev 21:3 useless as your lying organization.

THE WORD TRANSLATED as Elders has never been used for a spirit being because it is ONLY USED FOR MAN(FLESH AND BLOOD).

Your delusion and confusion just begin.

I need prove that the Elders, where are they called humans ?




In Christ Jesus there's NO MALE OR FEMALE.

Are you In Christ Jesus?

Are humans Male and Females ?

Yes. Debunking your lies that the they will go to heaven as humans.


At least the SPIRIT belongs to Jesus which negates your lying doctrine that NOTHING SURVIVES AFTER DEATH.




And that verse proves beyond reasonable doubt that, the heavenly HOMES(NEW BODIES) will be put on like clothes not to that people will turn to spirit being all of a sudden.

If they won't turn to Spirit being, they won't have been promised the divine nature . Which says what is born of spirit , is spirit . ( Not has spirit )


Sure as flesh is corrupted but only the things of SPIRIT live forever.

Is spirit not things of the spirit.


Your delusion is getting cured little by little. Just wait it'll fully respond.

Phil 3:21 it will be Fashioned like Jesus Glorious body , does it have wounds ? What does this te you about other deadly marks and wounds of others ?

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 1:51pm On Nov 22
Emusan:


Say something better!

I quoted that verse to proof to you that AT RESURRECTION both believers and unbelievers are resurrected the same way BUT WHAT MAKES BELIEVERS OWN different is that the SPIRIT OF GOD WHO LIVES IN BELIEVERS will transform their body to be fashioned with that of Glorified Jesus.

This is when you and that your deluded brother trying to proof that both unbelievers and believers will be resurrected and that means unbelievers will also have the glorified body of Christ as you repeated below.

"Yet God raised Jesus to life! God’s Spirit now lives in you, and he will raise you to life by his Spirit." Rom 8:11 CEV

See how believers' resurrection was linked with that of Christ.

That's why I keep asking you if the SPIRIT OF GOD LIVES IN UNBELIEVERS as well. Which you said YES!


Oponu radarada.



Go back to that my post and see the reason I cited that verse.

Lying liar.

At least you have said unbelievers have the Spirit of God in them and everybody read that here.

So continue your lies like your father the Devil!

Na person wey no know you and your fraud ways u go dey Bobo grin

Even the CEV translation expose you . ( I know why you chosed it , others make things hard for you, but let's take a look at it )

"Yet God raised Jesus to life! God’s Spirit now lives in you, and he will raise you to life by his Spirit ." Rom 8:11 CEV

They will be raised to life by the Spirit which lives in them . " His Spirit " . So there getting ressurected depend on the Spirit that lives in them. unless unbelievers won't be ressurected. But we saw a twist, The same Spirit will ressurect them too . How come ?

NLT
" And just as God raised Christ Jesus from the dead, he will give life to your mortal bodies by this same Spirit living within you. "

Their ressurection proved then that they also have the same Spirit living within them .

No difference yet, the same Spirit raise both of them , same Spiritual body grin

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:04pm On Nov 22
The highlighted is why i often call you "ARGUMENTATIVE Emusan"

You said someone is deluded the person said he's OK with his own God along with other so called deluded adherents, yet you're still interested in arguing further saying the so called deluded has entered one chance, abeg one chance over what again nah? cheesy
Why not leave deluded souls and move on? cheesy



Emusan:

Cry of a deluded soul!
Nobody is talking about WORSHIPPING of different Gods here except to your deluded mind!
You said "God bless me" and you went further to say "My OWN GOD can't bless you"
So which god did you INVOKE TO BLESS me when your OWN GOD can't bless me? Is the simple question I'm asking.
You know you have entered one chance by that statement.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 2:09pm On Nov 22
Barristter07:
The word rendered " Spirit" is neuter , neither male not female. Which is my point

So it's no more Angels but spirit.

The joke is on you.

The same bible said God is not a man.

Every description of Jehovah is considered anthropomorphic , becauSe he is not human.

Either Jesus is human with Full blood or the usage are anthropomorphic . Pick one

But you lied that the Father has NOT BEEN CALLED MAN OR HUMAN.

Then we can say the people mentioned in Rev 21:3 is the usage of anthropomorphic.

Can you grab that into your empty skull?

So Jesus has Blood like other humans ?

So is it every time the word MAN used means the person is FLESH AND BLOOD?

Yes. He still mediates as an Human with full blood in his veins.

QED!

I need prove that the Elders, where are they called humans?

Just as you can't produce where angel are said to be gender less.

The word which is used for ONLY HUMAN was APPLIED to them.

Are humans Male and Females ?

Yes. Debunking your lies that the they will go to heaven as humans.

Or debunking your lies that there's still MALE AND FEMALE in CHRIST when the scripture openly go against you.

If they won't turn to Spirit being, they won't have been promised the divine nature . Which says what is born of spirit , is spirit . ( Not has spirit )

And we are all born of spirit which then make ALL BELIEVERS to be spirit beings.

Is spirit not things of the spirit.

Yes!

Is God different from things of God?

Phil 3:21 it will be Fashioned like Jesus Glorious body , does it have wounds ? What does this te you about other deadly marks and wounds of others ?

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion!

who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body. Phil 3:21 CEV

See another verse putting your lying mouth where it belongs.

It is still the same BODIED! So not becoming a spirit person.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 2:17pm On Nov 22
Barristter07:
Na person wey no know you and your fraud ways u go dey Bobo grin

See the fraud calling another person fraud, shameless liar?

Even the CEV translation expose you . ( I know why you chosed it , others make things hard for you, but let's take a look at it )

imagine, isn't CEV your another favorite translation as your lying organization likes to use it?

"Yet God raised Jesus to life! God’s Spirit now lives in you, and he will raise you to life by his Spirit ." Rom 8:11 CEV

They will be raised to life by the Spirit which lives in them . " His Spirit " . So there getting ressurected depend on the Spirit that lives in them. unless unbelievers won't be ressurected. But we saw a twist, The same Spirit will ressurect them too . How come ?

NLT
" And just as God raised Christ Jesus from the dead, he will give life to your mortal bodies by this same Spirit living within you. "

Their ressurection proved then that they also have the same Spirit living within them .

No difference yet, the same Spirit raise both of them , same Spiritual body grin

The translation even poses my troubles for you.

It is OUR MORTAL BODIES that the spirit will give LIFE TO not turning people into spirit beings.

That's nice.

Says the deluded JWs!
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 2:21pm On Nov 22
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is why i often call you "ARGUMENTATIVE Maximumu"

More reason I called you the above.

You said someone is deluded the person said he's OK with his own God along with other so called deluded adherents, yet you're still interested in arguing further saying the so called deluded has entered one chance, abeg one chance over what again nah? cheesy
Why not leave deluded souls and move on? cheesy

Just like I said, nobody is talking about different God here except you deluded person.

What I'm asking is, you said "God bless me" and at the same time "Your own God can't bless me"

So tell me THE GOD you invoke to BLESS ME?

Can you see how you proved your name above right?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 2:27pm On Nov 22
Emusan:


So it's no more Angels but spirit.

The joke is on you.

The point is clear .




But you lied that the Father has NOT BEEN CALLED MAN OR HUMAN.

Then we can say the people mentioned in Rev 21:3 is the usage of anthropomorphic.

Can you grab that into your empty skull?

Numbers 23:19 God is not Human.

The anthropomorphic point is clear.

Those mentioned at Revelation 21:3 are humans.



So is it every time the word MAN used means the person is FLESH AND BLOOD?


Yes. Except when it's Spirit beings ..

Anthropomorphic usage.


QED!
Just as you can't produce where angel are said to be gender less.
Angels don't reproduce or marry, the purpose of Genders is to procreate ...

" He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them "Mankind" when they were created. "

The blessing was to multiply
.so my point stands



The word which is used for ONLY HUMAN was APPLIED to them.


When you get the verse that call them human, we will talk.



Or debunking your lies that there's still MALE AND FEMALE in CHRIST when the scripture openly go against you.


Verse 29 with reference to a promise.

The promise of becoming divine nature's like God , who is neither male or female .

The verse is not speaking of becoming human.. you are the liar




And we are all born of spirit which then make ALL BELIEVERS to be spirit beings.


The bold is what I needed to hear



Yes!

Is God different from things of God?

Different please.


1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion!

who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body. Phil 3:21 CEV

See another verse putting your lying mouth where it belongs.

It is still the same BODIED! So not becoming a spirit person.

The same body tht has return to dust ?

Since it's same body, tht means the person that have accident scars and hunch backs will be ressurected with the wounds and scars like Jess glorified body , Comprehend ?

You no well

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 2:32pm On Nov 22
Emusan:

See the fraud calling another person fraud, shameless liar?
imagine, isn't CEV your another favorite translation as your lying organization likes to use it?

"Yet God raised Jesus to life! God’s Spirit now lives in you, and he will raise you to life by his Spirit ." Rom 8:11 CEV


The same Spirit within them will bring unbelievers to life , so ?


The translation even poses my troubles for you.
It is OUR MORTAL BODIES that the spirit will give LIFE
TO not turning people into spirit beings.

That's nice.

Says the deluded JWs!

Number one , that translation established it that those whose bodies were given life all have the spirit of God in them. So in short unbelievers have Spiritual bodies grin

Okay back to your rants, the Mortal bodies uses blood to function, Do you agree ?

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:45pm On Nov 22
An argumentative person will never tell you it's ok rather he/she will continue to provoke you with questions! cheesy
You believe in God so God's blessings shouldn't be a contention, a believer will simply think of his own God whenever that title is mentioned.
For instance when someone says "Daddy will take care of you" it's only orphans that will find it so difficult to agree or those whose fathers are useless, you being worried over the God in question shows you're not sure of your own God! cheesy
I've had several encounter with Muslims as well as traditional worshipers saying "God bless you" since i know that i also have mine there is no reason pestering them over the name of the God they're talking about because i'm not interested in their God!
Being disturbed over the statement "God bless you" shows you're not sure of the efficacy of your own God Sir! cheesy




Emusan:

More reason I called you the above.
Just like I said, nobody is talking about different God here except you deluded person.
What I'm asking is, you said "God bless me" and at the same time "Your own God can't bless me"
So tell me THE GOD you invoke to BLESS ME?
Can you see how you proved your name above right?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 3:48pm On Nov 22
Barristter07:


A spirit materializing body has the appearance of a man, but they are not. If it's that easy, Jesus would have materialized rather than been carried in the womb for 9 months to come as flesh and blood. For Jesus to be human, he must possess blood.
grin so Angels can be called humans base on appearance but Jesus cannot be called a human even though he has flesh and bones?

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 3:52pm On Nov 22
livingchrist:

Corruptible body doesnt mean it suffered corruption a
you are deluded, Jesus didnt suffer corruption.

Yes!
You're right .
Even though the 'Human body' Jesus possessed in his 'Human existence' is a corruptible one'.It has been foretold that the 'Flesh' will not undergo ruinous decay.

(Act 2:31)- says his 'Flesh' will not undergo decay/corruption. God miraculously resurrected him as Spirit (1 pet3:18) and never to return to that corruptible body (Act 13:34)

God did not allow the physical body of his beloved Son 'Jesus' to rot, decay and smell bad in the grave.
That when his desciple visited the grave. It's only his clothes that they found.

Thanks
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 4:22pm On Nov 22
haddeylium:


Yes!
You're right .
Even though the 'Human body' Jesus possessed in his 'Human existence' is a corruptible one'.It has been foretold that the 'Flesh' will not undergo ruinous decay.

(Act 2:31)- says his 'Flesh' will not undergo decay/corruption. God miraculously resurrected him as Spirit (1 pet3:18) and never to return to that corruptible body (Act 13:34)

God did not allow the physical body of his beloved Son 'Jesus' to rot, decay and smell bad in the grave.
That when his desciple visited the grave. It's only his clothes that they found.

Thanks
good since Jesus body didnt undergo corruption what happened to Jesus body?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 5:05pm On Nov 22
livingchrist:
good since Jesus body didnt undergo corruption what happened to Jesus body?

Good question!
Since the Bible let's know that Jesus is never returning to human body that is corruptible
That he was resurrected as Spirit.

Doubtless, his body undergo disintegration without passing through the decaying process that the clothe was left!

Jesus is a glorious spirit being in heaven!

Thanks for your time
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 5:13pm On Nov 22
MaxInDHouse:
An argumentative person will never tell you it's ok rather he/she will continue to provoke you with questions! cheesy

Why an argumentative mumu will never understand the point of view but keep deviating and argue ignorantly.

You believe in God so God's blessings shouldn't be a contention, a believer will simply think of his own God whenever that title is mentioned.
For instance when someone says "Daddy will take care of you" it's only orphans that will find it so difficult to agree or those whose fathers are useless, you being worried over the God in question shows you're not sure of your own God! cheesy

That's why you will keep proving to people that you're truly mumu.

Saying "God bless you" means you're invoking a higher being.

Since your own god can't bless me, then I need to know The God you're INVOKING to bless me.

I've had several encounter with Muslims as well as traditional worshipers saying "God bless you" since i know that i also have mine there is no reason pestering them over the name of the God they're talking about because i'm not interested in their God!

So you know when one tells you "God bless you" is of no interest to you but you want it to be someone interest Mumu

Then do you say Amen, to their prayer?

Being disturbed over the statement "God bless you" shows you're not sure of the efficacy of your own God Sir! cheesy

Rather, I want to know the other God you have since you said your own God can't bless me and at the same time INVOKING a God blessing on me.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 5:31pm On Nov 22
Barristter07:
The point is clear

That "SPIRIT persons (plural) are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

Numbers 23:19 God is not Human.

The anthropomorphic point is clear.

Those mentioned at Revelation 21:3 are humans.

God is not A MAN, that He should lie...

The word MAN (flesh and blood) was used for God.

Those mentioned at Rev 21:3 are anthropomorphic, the point is clear.

Yes. Except when it's Spirit beings ..

Anthropomorphic usage.

Can you see your lying mouth, Ole...

So you know vividly that the word MAN can be used for spirit beings without flesh and blood yet you're ranting up and down since.

Then Rev 21:3 must be anthropomorphic usage also.

Angels don't reproduce or marry, the purpose of Genders is to procreate ...

Liar the purpose is gender isn't to procreate, even the usage of gender differs from culture to culture.

" He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them "Mankind" when they were created. "

The blessing was to multiply
.so my point stands

And didn't human procreating now

When you get the verse that call them human, we will talk.

The verse full Revelation as the word TRANSLATED AS ELDERS was ONLY USED for HUMAN with flesh and blood.

Verse 29 with reference to a promise.

The promise of becoming divine nature's like God , who is neither male or female .

The verse is not speaking of becoming human.. you are the liar

All believers will have that nature.

But there's no male or female IN CHRIST.

Which nullified your lies gender.

The bold is what I needed to hear

So the discussion is over since ALL BELIEVERS WILL BE SPIRIT BEINGS

Different please.

Eat the difference then.

The same body tht has return to dust ?

Since it's same body, tht means the person that have accident scars and hunch backs will be ressurected with the wounds and scars like Jess glorified body , Comprehend ?

You no well

HUMAN BODIES not spirit being

Receive sense for once.

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 5:39pm On Nov 22
Barristter07:
The same Spirit within them will bring unbelievers to life , so ?

So, both unbelievers and believers are going to heaven then since they have the same spirit of God.

Number one , that translation established it that those whose bodies were given life all have the spirit of God in them. So in short unbelievers have Spiritual bodies grin

Okay back to your rants, the Mortal bodies uses blood to function, Do you agree ?

"The THOSE....and ....ALL HAVE THE SPIRIT OF GOD in THEM"

Do you mean Apostle Paul included unbelievers in that statement?

The Bodies will be energized by the Holy Spirit...

Ode....
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 6:40pm On Nov 22
haddeylium:


Good question!
Since the Bible let's know that Jesus is never returning to human body that is corruptible
That he was resurrected as Spirit.

Doubtless, his body undergo disintegration without passing through the decaying process that the clothe was left!

Jesus is a glorious spirit being in heaven!

Thanks for your time
corruption also means disintegration, Since Jesus body didnt suffer corruption/disintegration, whether corruption is through natural process or not it is still corruption or disintegration
What happened to Jesus body?

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 7:53pm On Nov 22
Barristter07:

Jesus IS a Life giving Spirit . Do you recall a Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones ?
Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha, deal with the scriptures I gave you.
You think people just wake up and say Man has spirit?

Brain dead analogy, at 2Samuel 19:12 , People with blood were confirmed as Flesh and bones .
" You are my brothers; you are my bone and my flesh. Why then should you be the last to bring back the king?’ "

In Blabbermouth low thinking, those men don't have blood , You are not wise .

Leviticus 17:11 says the life of the Flesh is in the blood. As long as Adam and Eve were made as Flesh , like every other animals with flesh, they have blood.
Humble yourself and ask - what's the wisdom behind Lev 17:11

1Timothu 2:5 said Jesus gave himself as corresponding ransom , " corresponding " means equal ransom to what Adam lost, if Adam has no blood, Jesus is not a corresponding ransom.

Your assumption is just silly at its best .
Deal with it, humans have flesh and blood, For Jesus to be human, He has blood.
Them call person "Adam", you dey drag with God.
Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha
Haven't you read?- the LORD did not subject the world to come to angels. To which of his creatures then did he subject the world to?

When you grow balls to answer my question, man up yourself and tell.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 8:33pm On Nov 22
livingchrist:
grin so Angels can be called humans base on appearance but Jesus cannot be called a human even though he has flesh and bones?

When angels appear, the bible always indicate it that this are angels . Spirits , to tell the readers that they are not actually humans. Unless you mean Jesus is a Spirit appearing as an human to his apostles . If not , A Human being is composed of flesh and blood
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 8:56pm On Nov 22
Blabbermouth:

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha, deal with the scriptures I gave you.
You think people just wake up and say Man has spirit?

Humble yourself and ask - what's the wisdom behind Lev 17:11


Them call person "Adam", you dey drag with God.
Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha
Haven't you read?- the LORD did not subject the world to come to angels. To which of his creatures then did he subject the world to?

When you grow balls to answer my question, man up yourself and tell.

" For the blood of all flesh is its life; and I said to the children of Israel, Ye shall not eat the blood of any flesh, for the life of all flesh is its blood: every one that eats it shall be destroyed. " Lev 17:14

Is Adam Flesh ?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 8:58pm On Nov 22
Emusan:


So, both unbelievers and believers are going to heaven then since they have the same spirit of God.

"The THOSE....and ....ALL HAVE THE SPIRIT OF GOD in THEM"

Do you mean Apostle Paul included unbelievers in that statement?

The Bodies will be energized by the Holy Spirit...

Ode....

Won't unbelievers mortal bodies come alive too by virtue of God's spirit ?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 9:18pm On Nov 22
livingchrist:
corruption also means disintegration, Since Jesus body didnt suffer corruption/disintegration, whether corruption is through natural process or not it is still corruption or disintegration
What happened to Jesus body?

Jehovah is the one that prepared this human body for Jesus. So also he disposed it by dissolving it back' into the elements it was formed without undergoing decay!

This action is now new in the scriptures; God disposed Moses' body by burying it to prevent people from worshipping it.
Jesus as the antitype of Moses had his body disposed too . Which he was resurrected as a spirit being never to take the corrupt human body.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 9:23pm On Nov 22
Barristter07:


" For the blood of all flesh is its life; and I said to the children of Israel, Ye shall not eat the blood of any flesh, for the life of all flesh is its blood: every one that eats it shall be destroyed. " Lev 17:14

Is Adam Flesh ?

You will pay for this one, and the price is your humility.
Humble yourself and ask - what is the wisdom behind Lev 17:11?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 9:23pm On Nov 22
Emusan:


That "SPIRIT persons (plural) are represented as Neuter in scriptures."


Consider the word " Spirits " .



God is not A MAN, that He should lie...

The word MAN (flesh and blood) was used for God.

Those mentioned at Rev 21:3 are anthropomorphic, the point is clear.

Can you see your lying mouth, Ole...

So you know vividly that the word MAN can be used for spirit beings without flesh and blood yet you're ranting up and down since.

Then Rev 21:3 must be anthropomorphic usage also.


" With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them.+ 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes,+ and death will be no more, + neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.+ The former things have passed away.”


The persons spoken of here have been dying before, Are this spirits or humans ? Or God died ?

Revelation 21:3 is not anthropomorphic , it's reffering to human beings.



Liar the purpose is gender isn't to procreate, even the usage of gender differs from culture to culture.
And didn't human procreating now??

The verse full Revelation as the word TRANSLATED AS ELDERS was ONLY USED for HUMAN with flesh and blood.


So you are still yet to provide the proof of where the Elders are called Humans ?


All believers will have that nature.
But there's no male or female IN CHRIST.
Which nullified your lies gender.
So the discussion is over since ALL BELIEVERS WILL BE SPIRIT BEINGS
Humans are forever made male and Females.

Proved there is no male or Female in Heaven. Like the heavenly one ( Christ ) , so too are those who are heavenly. The heavenly ressurection is not as humans.



Eat the difference then.

HUMAN BODIES not spirit being

Receive sense for once.

Human bodies that retain Scars and wounds , human bodies that are male and female .


1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion.

Am glad you can't counter it, sorry 1 Corinthians 15:38 doesn't say it won't be fashioned like tht of Christ which has wounds. grin grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 9:24pm On Nov 22
Blabbermouth:

You will pay for this one, and the price is your humility.
Humble yourself and ask - what is the wisdom behind Lev 17:11?

Is Adam Flesh when he was created ? Very simple thing.

U can proceed with your analysis .

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 9:45pm On Nov 22
Barristter07:


When angels appear, the bible always indicate it that this are angels . Spirits , to tell the readers that they are not actually humans. Unless you mean Jesus is a Spirit appearing as an human to his apostles . If not , A Human being is composed of flesh and blood



grin but yet they are called humans base on appearance at that moment they appeared as humans, you cannot call Jesus a Spirit because Jesus is still having the human body.

Take for example 1 Timothy 2.5
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Jesus is called the man Angel's are called humans whenever their appearance is being described but this is not so, Jesus office is described and he is called a man.

Jesus is called a man not the same way Angels are called men in the bible. Therefore it is truth that Jesus is truly man. smiley
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 9:49pm On Nov 22
haddeylium:


Jehovah is the one that prepared this human body for Jesus. So also he disposed it by dissolving it back' into the elements it was formed without undergoing decay!

This action is now new in the scriptures; God disposed Moses' body by burying it to prevent people from worshipping it.
Jesus as the antitype of Moses had his body disposed too . Which he was resurrected as a spirit being never to take the corrupt human body.
oga you are contradicting yourself how can you say Jesus body did not suffer corruption and at the same time said Jesus body suffered corruption, whether decay, dissolution or anyother form of destruction they are all corruption.
It is a huge lie that watch tower has fed you.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 9:53pm On Nov 22
livingchrist:
grin but yet they are called humans base on appearance at that moment they appeared as humans, you cannot call Jesus a Spirit because Jesus is still having the human body.

Take for example 1 Timothy 2.5
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Jesus is called the man Angel's are called humans whenever their appearance is being described but this is not so, Jesus office is described and he is called a man.

Jesus is called a man not the same way Angels are called men in the bible. Therefore it is truth that Jesus is truly man. smiley
" he [Jacob ] wrestled with the man " Genesis 22:25

Does that make the person an human ?

I gave you that to show Angels are also called The man. When the context is angels , It's just an anthropomorphic usage . They are not humans nI the real sense of the word.

Anything outside that is A Creature of flesh and blood ( Lev 17:14 , Heb 2:14)
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 10:18pm On Nov 22
Barristter07:

" he [Jacob ] wrestled with the man " Genesis 22:25

Does that make the person an human ?

I gave you that to show Angels are also called The man. When the context is angels , It's just an anthropomorphic usage . They are not humans nI the real sense of the word.

Anything outside that is A Creature of flesh and blood ( Lev 17:14 , Heb 2:14)


angels are called humans base on appearance not anthropomorphic usage because whenever Angel appear to men they do so in human appearance except some few occasions. The fact remains that humans are described as flesh and bones if anything outside flesh and blood is not human the bible wouldnt have described humans as flesh a d bones.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:50pm On Nov 22
livingchrist:
oga you are contradicting yourself how can you say Jesus body did not suffer corruption and at the same time said Jesus body suffered corruption, whether decay, dissolution or anyother form of destruction they are all corruption.
It is a huge lie that watch tower has fed you.

Lol.
let me simplify this
When something decay or suffer corruption; It grow worse, deteriorate, and get weaken towards decomposition. Like when iron rust.

But Jesus body didn't suffer this corruption; His body was dissolved into constituent elements he was made of.
Like when water was dissolved and separated into Hydrogen and Oxygen

Thanks!

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