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Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by domicile: 11:44am On Oct 11, 2020
Mankind, who had eaten the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, came to have the different standard for good and evil from God’s. Then, which is correct, God’s Word or our judgment? Our standard is always relative and selfish. Therefore we should cast away our own ideas and simply trust and follow God’s Word focusing on “What does the Word of God say?” Ignoring God’s Word and seeking self-righteousness is Cain’s faith and religious belief. Abel put his faith in the Word of God he heard from his father, Adam, and offered the firstborn of his flock and of their fat. But self-conceited Cain brought an offering of the fruit of the ground to the Lord. God accepted Abel’s offering but refused Cain’s offering. It is God’s lesson that faith in man-made religions cannot bring salvation.
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by MoneyTrees(m): 11:54am On Oct 11, 2020
You're a real niggarrr
@OP, choose between Suya & paw-paw, which one you for eat after beta hunger? grin

Blakjewelry:
Simply put God love blood and Cain went an give him yam and veggies abi Cain think say God na vegetarian
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by Moblux(m): 12:04pm On Oct 11, 2020
Tobechuckwu:

It's like u still don't understand d difference between a sacrifice nd a gift.
Cain knew wat he offered won't be accepted in the first place nd he knew wat he needed to offer as a sacrifice.
Even if he was a farmer,trade by barter has been since ages he could have exchanged some of his products for a worthy sacrifice.
A sacrifice must cost u something for it to be accepted in the first place.
The questions God asked him showed Cain knew wat he offered was wrong nd him getting angry is also a sign that he knew wat he needed to offer.

You don't give gift to God. You offer sacrifice
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by Reference(m): 1:06pm On Oct 11, 2020
Moblux:


It was the condition of his heart and not the elements of the sacrifice

In a way, yes. This particular passage has been the subject of debate in the church throughout the ages because the texts are not detailed enough to make definitive conclusions as to why Abel was accepted and Cain rejected. However the New Testament gives some clues. Three passages, three lessons:

Hebrew 11: 4, speaks of FAITHLESSNESS.
1 John 3: 12, speaks about UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.
Jude 1: 11, speaks of GAIN, PROFIT, MONEY

The only light which runs through the three without fault lines is: COVETOUSNESS.

In all I feel that he Cain probably offered a so called sacrifice to God of inedible produce as if God was a hungry refugee or a prison inmate together with a bargaining chip on his shoulder, the way modern day Christians think they can trade with God as equals in the matters of provisions, wealth and sustenance.

A man who cannot let go in love, expecting nothing in return cannot receive and a man that offers to God what he himself cannot accept is covetous and evil. For only by faith can He be pleased.

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Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by holllandis: 1:09pm On Oct 11, 2020
Stupid people
Your country is in shambles and u are talking about nonsensical sacrifice
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by Tobechuckwu(m): 1:09pm On Oct 11, 2020
Moblux:


You don't give gift to God. You give sacrifice
Not everything u give to God is a sacrifice.
There is a free will offering which is not a sacrifice,Ur Sunday offering isn't a sacrifice nd so many others.
But a sacrifice is a specified offering which must cost u something special. If it doesn't cost u then it's not a sacrifice.
A gift is something that's free will, something that's giving out of Ur own will, nobody enforce it on u.
So u see now that u can also give gift to God.
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by ofiko123(m): 1:13pm On Oct 11, 2020
AntiChristian:
I still can't believe it.

That God loves blood this much!

Must God kill something or someone to save people?

The power of life is in the blood..
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by ofiko123(m): 1:13pm On Oct 11, 2020
Happy Sunday to all and sundry..
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by harmargedon: 1:31pm On Oct 11, 2020
ofiko123:


The power of life is in the blood..
believe me when I say this. why would God come down to suffer himself just to forgive himself of something he didn't even do. Emperor Constantine really had you guys believe this and I trust my people, they all rolled over. God can easily say your sins are forgiven, like he said in the Bible, he didn't stab himself to bleed before he said that.
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by Moblux(m): 1:35pm On Oct 11, 2020
Reference:


In a way, yes. This particular passage has been the subject of debate in the church throughout the ages because the texts are not detailed enough to make definitive conclusions as to why Abel was accepted and Cain rejected. However the New Testament gives some clues. Three passages, three lessons:

Hebrew 11: 4, speaks of FAITHLESSNESS.
1 John 3: 12, speaks about UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.
Jude 1: 11, speaks of GAIN, PROFIT, MONEY

The only light which runs through the three without fault lines is: COVETOUSNESS.

In all I feel that he Cain probably offered a so called sacrifice to God of inedible produce as if God was a hungry refugee or a prison inmate together with a bargaining chip on his shoulder, the way modern day Christians think they can trade with God as equals in the matters of provisions, wealth and sustenance.

A man who cannot let go in love, expecting nothing in return cannot receive and a man that offers to God what he himself cannot accept is covetous and evil. For only by faith can He be pleased.

Thumb up!

The condition of his heart!
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by Dammy30(m): 1:44pm On Oct 11, 2020
Call for more information

Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by AsawanaDgreat: 1:51pm On Oct 11, 2020
Who tell you the story?
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by FirePower1(m): 1:55pm On Oct 11, 2020
If you see only the surface, you will choose to act the part of Cain because you do not want to be the one that will have to be killed for righteousness. Cain killed Abel and became mighty, expanding and building cities but his generation became wiped out during the flood in the time if Noah. Noah came from the linage of Seth. Seth means the one who came to replace Abel as The Holy Spirit came in Jesus' stead after the Jews killed him because they were jealous that He got God's approval. You are making a choice even now, think deeply through The Word Of God. Do not be an Esau who ate his gain and planted his pain and later reaped the pain in multiples but be like Jacob who embraced his pain and planted his gain. I pray that as you meditate on this, The Lord will give you grace and lead you to glory through the knowledge and understanding of His will in Jesus Name.
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by buezeemeka(m): 1:56pm On Oct 11, 2020
The mystery behind this bro...
Only few whom the Lord has revealed knows.
AntiChristian:
I still can't believe it.

That God loves blood this much!

Must God kill something or someone to save people?
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by APOSTLECHUMA: 2:10pm On Oct 11, 2020
WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL SIN THAT TOOK PLACE IN EDEN ? WAS IT ACTUALLY FRUIT THAT THEY ATE OR WAS IT SOMETHING BEYOND THAT, THAT HAD TO DO WITH MIXING OF BLOOD AND REPRODUCTION BUT THE BIBLE TOLD US THAT IN PARABLE ? TRUE KNOWLEDGE OF THE ACTUAL THING THAT THEY ATE WILL HELP US TO KNOW WHY GOD ACCEPTED THE SACRIFICE OF ABLE, WHICH WAS THAT OF BLOOD WHILE REJECTING THAT OF CAIN. ADAM AND EVE ATE SOMETHING RIGHT ? BEFORE THEIR EATING IT, THE SERPENT HAD ALREADY GIVEN IT TO EVE. NOW OUT OF WHAT THEY ATE CAME SEEDS AND SEEDS IN THE BIBLE REPRESENT PROSPERITY JUST LIKE WHEN GOD TOLD ABRAHAM TO NUMBER THE STARS OF HEAVEN (GEN 15-5). OUT OF WHAT THEY ATE ALSO, THE SERPENT HAD A SEED (CHILD) BECAUSE WHEN GOD WAS CAUSING THEM, HE SAID "I WIL PUT ENEMITY B/W THY SEED AND THE SEED OF THE WOMAN (GEN 3-15). FRIENDS TO HAVE A CHILD, NO ONE EATS MANGO FRUIT. NOW, BECAUSE WHAT THEY ATE HAD TO DO WITH MIXING OF BLOOD AND BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO TAKE BLOOD TO WASH IT AWAY, BECAUSE WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD THERE IS NO REMISSION OF SIN, THAT WAS WHY GOD ACCEPTED ABLE'S SACRIFICE. GOD ONLY WANTED TO KNOW B/W THE 2,WHO KNEW THE EXACT THING THAT CAUSED THE FALL OF MANKIND AND ABLE BY FAITH(REVELATION) OR BY VISION SAW THAT AND GOD ACCEPTED IT WHILE REJECTING THAT OF CAIN WHO BROUGHT FRUITS BELIEVING THAT THEY ATE FRUITS JUST THE WAY MANY STILL DO TILL DATE. WHEN YOU KNOW THE ORIGIONAL SIN, U WILL UNDERSTAND WHY THE WHOLE WORLD IS UNDER CAPTIVITY BY WOMEN AND DREAD THEM IF U WANT TO SERVE GOD AND PLEASE HIM, BECAUSE IN THEM LAY THE POWER TO MAKE THE MOST POWERFUL MAN OF GOD ON EARTH TO COME CRAWLING BEFORE THEM WITHOUT GOD'S SPECIAL GRACE ON THE PERSON. NB: SINCE ADAM, EVERY CHILD THAT IS BORN INTO THIS EARTH, COMES IN INHERITING THAT SAME SIN AND THATS BECAUSE IT IS PASSED DOWN THROUGH THE BLOOD. WHEN THE BLOOD OF ANIMALS COULDNT WASH IT AWAY, IN THE FULLNESS OF TIME, CHRIST CAME AND OFFERED HIS SINLESS BLOOD AND BROKE THAT BONDAGE AND THATS WHY U CAN ONLY OVERCOME IMMORAL LIVING THROUGH CHRIST AS UNTIL U GIVE YOUR LIFE TO CHRIST, U WILL REMAIN A PRISONER OF WAR TO THEM. THIS TEACHING AGREES WITH MATTHEW 13 WHERE THE ENEMY PLANTED TARES AMONG THE WHEATS. WHEATS ARE GOD'S CHILDREN WHILE TARES ARE SEEDS OF THE SERPENT. NB: DO U KNOW THAT IN GEN 3-20 ADAM CALLED HIS WIFE EVE BECAUSE SHE WAS THE MOTHER OF ALL THE LIVING BUT THERE IS NO SINGLE SCRIPTURE THAT CALLED ADAM FATHER OF ALL THE LIVING AS CAIN WAS SERPENT'S SEED (1JOHN 3-12). ADAM WAS NEVER CALLED THE EVIL ONE, THE EVIL ONE WAS SATAN-THE SERPENT. 07054142412

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Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by PresidentJosh20(m): 2:22pm On Oct 11, 2020
Blakjewelry:
Simply put God love blood and Cain went an give him yam and veggies abi Cain think say God na vegetarian
I know you understood the message;you are just trying to be funny.
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by orisa37: 2:42pm On Oct 11, 2020
IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FIRST ADAM & SECOND ADAM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADAM & JESUS AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LUCIFER AND JESUS.
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by Offpoint1: 3:15pm On Oct 11, 2020
Sibrah:
Never hears of this before.
I know, not everyone has access to the real truth and full story of What happened in the garden of Eden.
What fruit eve actually ate...

If the truth is revealed to you you'll understand why Cain was evil... Why he was different from all Adam's children in character...


You'll get deeper knowledge and connect the dot about why Jesus didn't come to the world through sex.
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by Toyinjones2020: 3:18pm On Oct 11, 2020
LilBlaze24o:
The Bible account of Cain and Abel making their offerings is very brief. At Genesis 4:3-5, we read: “It came about at the expiration of some time that Cain proceeded to bring some fruits of the ground as an offering to Jehovah. But as for Abel, he too brought some firstlings of his flock, even their fatty pieces. Now while Jehovah was looking with favor upon Abel and his offering, he did not look with any favor upon Cain and upon his offering.”

There is no mention in the Bible that prior to this event Jehovah had given any specific information about sacrifices or about what kind of sacrifices would be acceptable to him. Thus, Cain and Abel evidently made their offerings solely of their own volition. They were barred from access to their parents’ original Paradise home; they began to feel the effects of sin; and they were alienated from God. In their sinful and pitiful state, they must have felt strongly the need to turn to God for help. Offering God a gift was likely a voluntary gesture on their part toward gaining God’s favor.

As matters turned out, Abel’s offering was accepted by God, but Cain’s was not. Why? Was it because Abel offered the right things and Cain did not? We cannot be sure that the type of offering had no bearing on matters, since neither of them had been told what was acceptable and what was not. However, it is likely that either type was acceptable. In the Law that Jehovah eventually gave the nation of Israel, acceptable sacrifices included not only animals or animal parts but also roasted grain, sheaves of barley, fine flour, baked goods, and wine. (Leviticus 6:19-23; 7:11-13; 23:10-13) Evidently, it was not the substance alone of the sacrifices of Cain and Abel that caused God to accept one and reject the other.​—Compare Isaiah 1:11; Amos 5:22.

Centuries later, the apostle Paul stated: “By faith Abel offered God a sacrifice of greater worth than Cain, through which faith he had witness borne to him that he was righteous, God bearing witness respecting his gifts.” (Hebrews 11:4) Thus, it was because of faith that Abel was recognized as righteous by God. But faith in what? Faith in Jehovah’s promise that he would provide the Seed, who would ‘bruise the head of the serpent’ and restore the peace and perfection that mankind once enjoyed. From the statement that the Seed would be ‘bruised in the heel,’ Abel might have reasoned that a sacrifice involving the shedding of blood was needed. (Genesis 3:15) Nonetheless, the fact remains that it was Abel’s expression of faith that made his “a sacrifice of greater worth than Cain.”

By the same token, Cain was rejected, not because he offered the wrong kind of sacrifice, but because he lacked faith, as indicated by his actions. Jehovah had clearly pointed out to Cain: “If you turn to doing good, will there not be an exaltation?” (Genesis 4:7) God did not reject Cain on account of any displeasure over his offering. Rather, it was “because his own works were wicked”​—marked by jealousy, hatred, and finally murder—​that Cain was rejected by God.​—1 John 3:12.
I agree completely with what you wrote while I disagree with the submission of the op
The bible says God rejected Cain and his offering while he has respect unto Abel and his offering.This brings us to the fact that God is more interested in the person and not necessarily the offering.Do you remember the widow that Jesus commended despite sacrificing little

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Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by Moblux(m): 4:46pm On Oct 11, 2020
Toyinjones2020:

I agree completely with what you wrote while I disagree with the submission of the op
The bible says God rejected Cain and his offering while he has respect unto Abel and his offering.This brings us to the fact that God is more interested in the person and not necessarily the offering.Do you remember the widow that Jesus commended despite sacrificing little

Thumb up! It was the condition of his heart.

"God spoke to Cain: “Why this tantrum? Why the sulking? If you do well, won’t you be accepted? And if you don’t do well, sin is lying in wait for you, ready to pounce; it’s out to get you, you’ve got to master it.”

Gen 4:7
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by scriptures01: 7:29pm On Oct 11, 2020
All sacrifice should be in the similitude of the sacrifice of the Only Begotten Son.
Christ shed his blood on the cross of calvary, the symbol of blood was very important.
Cain on the advise of Satan offered up the fruit of the ground, his actions was in direct
opposite to the commandment God had given him and Abel and a mockery of the future
sacrifice of the Only Begotten Son,
That's why it was rejected.

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Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by madegreatbygrace(m): 9:21pm On Oct 11, 2020
quote author=Moblux post=94825333]

It was the condition of his heart and not the elements of the sacrifice

what condition?
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by iruoghene7(m): 9:51pm On Oct 11, 2020
Simply put, without faith it is impossible to please God, and faith we know is a revelation and that's what Cain didn't have.
He isn't Adam's son to begin with, but the son of the serpent. He didn't receive the revelation that sin can only be atoned for by blood, but able did.
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by Sleekfingers: 9:52pm On Oct 11, 2020
Una still dey read that story book called bible abi?
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by iruoghene7(m): 10:49pm On Oct 11, 2020
Sleekfingers:
Una still dey read that story book called bible abi?
God have mercy on you
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by FRANKOSKI(m): 2:52am On Oct 12, 2020
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Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by madegreatbygrace(m): 7:46am On Oct 12, 2020
quote author=iruoghene7 post=94847980]Simply put, without faith it is impossible to please God, and faith we know is a revelation and that's what Cain didn't have.
He isn't Adam's son to begin with, but the son of the serpent. He didn't receive the revelation that sin can only be atoned for by blood, but able did.




You know your Bible jare
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by live4dgospel(m): 10:46am On Oct 12, 2020
tytachile:
the ministry of PAUL C. JONG helped me a lot to understand the gospel of GRACE! thank God for a minister of Grace like Him!
I would like to know you more please. Can I get your contact?
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by live4dgospel(m): 10:53am On Oct 12, 2020
Moblux:


I repeat, it was the condition of his heart. What was alluded to in Hebrews lend credence to this,"...by faith Abel offered a better sacrifice ". What makes it better is not spilling of blood. When David poured water that was fetch him by his men, was that not a sacrifice?

As a farmer that he was, would you have expected him to give what does not belong to him? If Abel were to be Cain, his sacrifice would still be acceptable cos of his heart.
If Cain has good heart, then he would have offered a right sacrifice. In order words, Abel wouldn't have offered wrong sacrifice even if he was a farmer because his heart is good. For instance, he would have borrowed from Cain, if Cain was the farmer. In a nutshell, Cain offering is wrong because his heart is wrong.

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Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by live4dgospel(m): 11:01am On Oct 12, 2020
ekevwe:


In the present times, how do you know God have accepted our sacrifices or reject it?
The evidence is found in the heart, I would like you to first come in contact with the gospel of the water and the Spirit. Please visit www.bjnewlife.org to download our gospel series titled "Have you truly been born again of the water and the Spirit?" and "Return to the gospel of the water and the Spirit"
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by live4dgospel(m): 11:22am On Oct 12, 2020
Toyinjones2020:

I agree completely with what you wrote while I disagree with the submission of the op
The bible says God rejected Cain and his offering while he has respect unto Abel and his offering.This brings us to the fact that God is more interested in the person and not necessarily the offering.Do you remember the widow that Jesus commended despite sacrificing little
If Cain has good heart, then he would have offered a right sacrifice. In order words, Abel wouldn't have offered wrong sacrifice even if he was a farmer because his heart is good. For instance, he would have borrowed from Cain or use trade by barter with Cain, if Cain was the farmer. In a nutshell, Cain offering is wrong because his heart is wrong.
Re: The Difference Between Abel's And Cain's Sacrifice by Moblux(m): 1:25pm On Oct 12, 2020
live4dgospel:

If Cain has good heart, then he would have offered a right sacrifice. In order words, Abel wouldn't have offered wrong sacrifice even if he was a farmer because his heart is good. For instance, he would have borrowed from Cain, if Cain was the farmer. In a nutshell, Cain offering is wrong because his heart is wrong.

That is my submission. I drew this inference because of the statement made by Jehovah in verse 7.

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