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Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Cantonese: 1:53pm On Oct 14, 2020
That was their campaign promise until they got power. Next thing they dodged, denied, and finally told us that Nigeria must remain one. The lie wey dem tell us no be here!

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Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Yujin(m): 1:53pm On Oct 14, 2020
Coldie:

When we heard we go see 10years ago this is 2020 we never still see
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by enemyofprogress: 1:54pm On Oct 14, 2020
Now, we don’t want to break up, God forbid.


Na the God forbid Baba take spoil him beautiful talk
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Mokason28: 1:54pm On Oct 14, 2020
Olatara:
Yes I understood everything he wrote. Stop tribalism.
How am I tribalistic when all I said is Yoruba don’t want to break up because they feel TINUBU will be president 2023 ?
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Coldie(m): 1:55pm On Oct 14, 2020
Yujin:

This is one of the Fulani Social Media Crew(FSMC) who's job is to create division among southerners on nairaland. Southerners ignore him and stay on the break up path. That is there Waterloo.
Use mouth push them na.

Tomorrow u will start crying international community come to our aide genocide this and that

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Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Yujin(m): 1:55pm On Oct 14, 2020
Coldie:

When we heard we go see 10years ago this is 2020 we never still see
Every event has at least three stages... you're gradually seeing the effect of those 10yrs ago warning playing out today. Soon it will enter the second stage if your people fail to do the right thing.

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Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by SimplePlan34: 1:56pm On Oct 14, 2020
Why he's he speaking now Jonathan tried to do Dat
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by 4four(m): 1:57pm On Oct 14, 2020
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Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Reference(m): 1:57pm On Oct 14, 2020
nextstep:
Everybody likes using the word: restructure like it's a magic pill. We have LGA chairpersons, reps, senators... how come schools in their districts are not world-class? Let me see just one example of a part of Nigeria that's fair and equitable to all, and I will say OK, those guys will benefit from restructuring.

Delta suffered when it was part of Western Region.
Ekiti suffered when it was part of Ondo.
Ask the beggars and codeine takers in North West and North Central if their elites give a rat's ass about them. Why would their lot improved if restructured?
Will the destitute in North East suddenly get their lives back if restructured?
Why are so many poor in Western Nigeria (including Lagos)? Why so many ritual killings? How can restructuring help them?
All those baby factories and fake medicine makers in East? How will restructuring cure that problem?
Is it lack of restructuring that's stopping the South South leaders from taking care of their people and environment?

Even when Biafra was around, the masses suffered while the elites enjoyed imported tea and chocolate.

The same senators in Abuja will be the same ones in each restructured zone... still stealing money collectively.

Youths, you've seen what your voice can do in the #EndSars campaign... do not waste your voice in 2023.

Folks like you keep on misunderstanding and misrepresenting the terminology 'restructuring' in the context of Nigeria.

Every time it is spoken people rush to conclusions, tangle themselves in zero sum arguments and tie themselves in impossible twists.

Just consider it as simple as this: 'ing' is merely a 'present participle'. It qualifies action or motion. It is not a destination or a conclusion. The call for restructuring is a call to talk as in talking, a call to walk as in walking.

Nigeria is a country that appears to be unable to connect its varied interest groupings to work out solutions to its problems. It cannot agree on practically anything that affects the lives of the ordinary citizens leaving this country always split between the contented and the aggrieved on everything.

Things such as what the definition of corruption is, how to develop its people, the role of church and state, and so many more issues of state, of citizens and of life. The present structure always presents winners and losers amongst Nigerians. This country has never seen peace since the white man came this way.

Despite all the institutions of goverment established to create social cohesion there are red lines everywhere that citizens just cannot cross to further their sense of wellbeing.

Let me ask this. Is it inherently evil to seek common values amongst all citizens?. Is it evil to come round a table and agree what is right, equitable, fair, just and progressive?

The process of keeping our desires CONSTANTLY under review is called restructuring. It is not a conclusion on any agenda. Restructuring recognises that there will never be a perfect Nigeria so like a driver our hands have to be on the wheel at all times making slight adjustments CONSTANTLY to prevent the country drifting dangerously.

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Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by lymelyte(m): 1:58pm On Oct 14, 2020
nextstep:
Everybody likes using the word: restructure like it's a magic pill. We have LGA chairpersons, reps, senators... how come schools in their districts are not world-class? Let me see just one example of a part of Nigeria that's fair and equitable to all, and I will say OK, those guys will benefit from restructuring.

Delta suffered when it was part of Western Region.
Ekiti suffered when it was part of Ondo.
Ask the beggars and codeine takers in North West and North Central if their elites give a rat's ass about them. Why would their lot improved if restructured?
Will the destitute in North East suddenly get their lives back if restructured?
Why are so many poor in Western Nigeria (including Lagos)? Why so many ritual killings? How can restructuring help them?
All those baby factories and fake medicine makers in East? How will restructuring cure that problem?
Is it lack of restructuring that's stopping the South South leaders from taking care of their people and environment?

Even when Biafra was around, the masses suffered while the elites enjoyed imported tea and chocolate.

The same senators in Abuja will be the same ones in each restructured zone... still stealing money collectively.

Youths, you've seen what your voice can do in the #EndSars campaign... do not waste your voice in 2023.
you just highlighted the problem..so what's the solution?
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Coldie(m): 1:58pm On Oct 14, 2020
Yujin:

Every event has at least three stages... you're gradually seeing the effect of those 10yrs ago warning playing out today. Soon it will enter the second stage if your people fail to do the right thing.
No reasonable Igbo man will ever demand for restructuring and breakup.

If I tell u what's coming una go do straight u turn and start protesting against restructuring.
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by IJOBA2: 1:59pm On Oct 14, 2020
SLAP44:
This is the stand of the whole south of Nigeria. We cannot continue to sit down and allow a few incompetent people decide the fate of my region and others with their incompetence.

We have been complaining of a government who sees nothing in allowing cows from a distant region forcefully destroying crops of farmers in southern farms.

Dissolution of Nigeria will save more lives.
HELINUES SOLMUS AND SIMPLYLEO LEO WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU BRUH
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by nextstep(m): 2:00pm On Oct 14, 2020
tollyboy5:

The problem here is. You don't even know what is restructuring undecided

Reference:
Folks like you keep on misunderstanding and misrepresenting the terminology 'restructuring' in the context of Nigeria.

Every time it is spoken people rush to conclusions, tangle themselves in zero sum arguments and tie themselves in impossible twists.

Just consider it as simple as this: 'ing' is merely a 'present participle'. It qualifies Action or motion

My brothers, it's not the terminology that's the problem: ECN (gov't) -> NEPA (gov't) -> PHCN (public holding) -> LDC (private). Still no light.
No matter how we rearrange, restructure, or restructuring the country; whether they are in one large barrel or several baskets, we still have the same bad apples.
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Yujin(m): 2:00pm On Oct 14, 2020
Coldie:

Use mouth push them na.

Tomorrow u will start crying international community come to our aide genocide this and that
Reality is dawning already... international community will eventually intervene but until they do rain with fall on Nigeria and everyone will be drenched. You can run your mouth because others blindly fought for you back in the days... today is certainly different. We're aware of your plans... not all of us are like Okorocha or Orji Kalu. Baflatani get ready.

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Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Coldie(m): 2:00pm On Oct 14, 2020
enemyofprogress:
Now, we don’t want to break up, God forbid.


Na the God forbid Baba take spoil him beautiful talk
God forbid Nigeria will never break
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by lymelyte(m): 2:00pm On Oct 14, 2020
Coldie:
South easterners don't fall for their ploy, they want to use us as bait.

When we said restructuring or breakup they called us ipob, now amotekuns are agitating their own, no follow them.

Restructuring or breakup only favours the SS and SW.

U heard the stats that only Lagos alone generated enough money than 33states. Amotekuns want to use restructuring and totally take over and control Lagos.

While the SS want to use restructuring and completely control all their oil blocks. Imagine how rich akwa ibom is with just 13% do u know what 50% will do?

Both of these scenarios are good but we were insulted and called names for this Mk everybody fight their fight
why are you pained? Is the oil your own?

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Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Coldie(m): 2:02pm On Oct 14, 2020
Yujin:

Reality is dawning already... international community will eventually intervene but until they do rain with fall on Nigeria and everyone will be drenched. You can run your mouth because others blindly fought for you back in the days... today is certainly different. We're aware of your plans... not all of us are like Okorocha or Orji Kalu. Baflatani get ready.

No reasonable Igbo man will demand for restructuring take this to the bank.


Cause I Know even if it happens when you start crying again u won't say I didn't warn u
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Coldie(m): 2:02pm On Oct 14, 2020
lymelyte:
why are you pained? I'd the oil your own?
It belongs to Nigeria
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by harmony75: 2:02pm On Oct 14, 2020
Hallaluyahhh you're very right sir...breakup is better Nigeria is too big to govern by one person being that because we lack leaders with visions breakup will help each unit take charge of their small unit.

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Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by nextstep(m): 2:04pm On Oct 14, 2020
lymelyte:
you just highlighted the problem..so what's the solution?

It's also there: Youths, you've seen what your voice can do in the #EndSars campaign... do not waste your voice in 2023.

In other words, since the leaders are causing problems, don't sit back and let others choose the same bad leaders next time.
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Coldie(m): 2:05pm On Oct 14, 2020
harmony75:
Hallaluyahhh you're very right sir...breakup is better Nigeria is too big to govern by one person being that because we lack leaders with visions breakup will help each unit take charge of their small unit.
This is what they call poverty mentality.


If people like u were Jeff Bezos worth over $200billion by now u for don die.

Cause that money is too much for u to manage
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Yujin(m): 2:06pm On Oct 14, 2020
Coldie:

No reasonable Igbo man will ever demand for restructuring and breakup.

If I tell u what's coming una go do straight u turn and start protesting against restructuring.

See the simpleton trying to advice someone more intelligent than him. The political dominance your vampiric people are enjoying today was got by the blind enabling of other ethnic groups. Today, the dynamics have changed. You know it but are stubbornly willing to stake it all. Don't worry, we will oblige you. All those people you've rendered orphans are patiently waiting for their pound of flesh. From Plateau, Kaduna, Taraba, Nasarawa, Benue, Kogi down are waiting for you. Of course you know about us in Biafran land... you know.

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Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by lymelyte(m): 2:08pm On Oct 14, 2020
rotadeco27:

U in the northern Nigeria. The end of the zoo is near , initially it was one region now even the middle belt states are dissociating from arewa!
grin. Middlebelt states do not want attachment
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by ledaman: 2:08pm On Oct 14, 2020
Idiot man!
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Coldie(m): 2:09pm On Oct 14, 2020
Yujin:

See the simpleton trying to advice someone more intelligent than him. The political dominance your vampiric people are enjoying today was got by the blind enabling of other ethnic groups. Today, the dynamics have changed. You know it but aware stubbornly willing to stake it all. Don't worry, we will oblige you. All those people you've rendered orphans are patiently waiting for their pound of flesh. From Plateau, Kaduna, Taraba, Nasarawa, Benue, Kogi down are waiting for you. Of course you know about us in Biafran land... you know.
Only u know what your problem is?

The north is ever strong and united. We self in the east are tired of these back stabbing southerners with no vision.

If we want restructuring we from the east will demand to be merged with the north.

The east have nothing in common with these southerners rather than some small similarities. But we have alot in common with the north
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by lymelyte(m): 2:09pm On Oct 14, 2020
Coldie:

It belongs to Nigeria
belongs to Nigeria u said? I dey shame for u..That's how you guys wanted Biafra so badly and wanted to add Niger delta to biafra..Ole!!
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Coldie(m): 2:10pm On Oct 14, 2020
lymelyte:
belongs to Nigeria u said? I dey shame for u..
Make them come collect am na if na their own
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by Coldie(m): 2:11pm On Oct 14, 2020
lymelyte:
belongs to Nigeria u said? I dey shame for u..That's how you guys wanted Biafra so badly and wanted to add Niger delta to biafra..Ole!!
Fvck both Niger delta and Biafra
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by lymelyte(m): 2:12pm On Oct 14, 2020
Coldie:

Make them come collect am na if na their own
don't worry.. Restructuring would begin soon and you go see with ur eyes.. The oil you are even clamoring for is becoming stale and past tense.. Other saner countries are moving to tech, you are here dragging oil..
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by nextstep(m): 2:13pm On Oct 14, 2020
Reference:
Nigeria is a country that appears to be unable to connect its varied interest groupings to work out solutions to its problems. Ut cannot agree on practically anything that affects the lives of the ordinary citizens. Things such as what the definition of corruption is, how to develop its people, the role of church and state, etc.

Despite all the institutions of goverment established to create social cohesion there are red lines everywhere that citizens just cannot cross to further their sense of wellbeing.

Is it inherently evil to seek common values amongst all citizens. Is it evil to come round a table and agree what is right, equitable, fair, just and progressive?

The process of keeping our desires CONSTANTLY under review is called restructuring. It is not a conclusion on any agenda. Restructuring recognises that there will never be a perfect Nigeria so like a driver our hands have to be on the wheel at all times making slight adjustments CONSTANTLY to prevent the country drifting.

I see your point. However, what I was driving at is, no matter how many countries Nigeria becomes, the leaders of each country will be the same as the leaders in Nigeria today, unless youth choose wisely. Let me just take this "definition of what corruption is"; no region has decided that corruption is bad, as in senators, governors, reps, LGA chairmen from every place chop and clean mouth. What kind of restructuring, round table, can repair this?

Often when I mention countries that have developed in spite of their varied populations, people huffily state that we're different. UK has 4 tribes (English, Welsh, Scots, Irish) that fought for nearly 1000 years. India and China have countless ethnicities. US is made of people all over Europe (English, Germans, Irish, Italians, West Africans, Indians, etc). Malaysia, Indonesia, also, multiple ethnic groups. All with their own interests, and backgrounds.

I find no need to restructure or come to more round table discussions. Just serve your people justly and honestly.
Re: #EndPoliceBrutality: Pastor Adeboye 'We Either Restructure Nigeria Or Breakup' by itu404(m): 2:14pm On Oct 14, 2020
See your head na where the MOG talk about police here... yahoo yahoo boy you think you will end policing in a country be kidding yourself

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