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Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by shadeyinka(m): 9:02pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
sonmvayina:I asked you a question which you didn't answer and you are now asking how I knew what? For your information, I haven't made any claim. I only asked you some questions. Modified: I initially thought I was responding to Ustec: I only asked him questions! QED |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by shadeyinka(m): 9:13pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
IMAliyu:I assume you are a Muslim and I must confess that your write-up is unbiased. There is clearly a difference. No Muslim would ever agree that they worship Jehovah/Yahweh! Both the Jews and Christians regard Jehovah/Yahweh as their God! |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by Ustec: 9:26pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
shadeyinka:And that fake and edited King James version(KJV) Bible verse is of God abi.. Be deceiving yourself there o. If you go to Israel, you will notice they are still in confusion. Allah( the supreme had already warned them in the second chapter of the holy Qur'an) 2 Likes |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by Ustec: 9:31pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
shadeyinka:So Jesus said jehovah/yahwey is the supreme God, I thought Christian believe Jesus is God, I tire for una jare. Bye. 1 Like |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by shadeyinka(m): 10:29pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
Ustec:How many Al-Rahman exist that you know? How many Al-Rahim exist that you know? How many Al-Malik exist that you know? Are these three different from Allah? |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by shadeyinka(m): 10:36pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
Ustec:Why then is it difficult to answer my question if you have nothing to hide? You were the one who made two strong unsubstantiated submissions 1. Jesus didn't complete His mission 2. Mohammed came to show humans the way of salvation And I asked: How did you know this (about Jesus uncompleted mission)? Do you have any evidence or it's just a wishful thinking? For your second submission, I asked with the Qur'an as my evidence: Can the blind lead the blind? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by Ustec: 6:40am On Oct 29, 2020 |
shadeyinka:Lol, Stop acting like a robot ogbeni, When we are praising God, and we say God is the alpha and omega, the omnipotent , the most gracious ,the most merciful, and blabla..... What do you think we are trying to do. Use your common sense Mr man. 1 Like |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by Ustec: 6:47am On Oct 29, 2020 |
shadeyinka:Stop quoting a single verse from the Quran without reading through to understand the whole verse and the context. Don't be a robot without common sense. 1 Like |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by motayoayinde: 10:00am On Oct 29, 2020 |
GOD IS THE ENGLISH NAME OF THE SUPREME BEING WHO IS ONE AND WHO IS THE ALL POWERFUL CREATOR AND CONTROLLER OF THE UNIVERSE AND ALL IT CONTAINS. THOUGH UNSEEN, HE SEES ALL, KNOWS ALL AND IS RESIDENT IN THE HEAVENS ABOVE. IF THE OBJECT OF WORSHIP OF A PEOPLE HAS THESE ATTRIBUTES AND FITS INTO THESE DESCRIPTIONS, THEN REGARDLESS OF WHAT NAME HE'S CALLED, HE IS THE SAME ONE THE ENGLISH CALL GOD. THE ARABIC WORD FOR THE SUPREME BEING, GOD, HAS ALWAYS BEEN ALLAH. ARAB CHRISTIANS AND JEWS CALLED HIM SO EVEN BEFORE PROPHET MUHAMMAD (saw) WAS BORN. TILL THIS DAY, MILLIONS OF ARAB CHRISTIANS REFER TO GOD AS ALLAH. DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF ARABIC BIBLE HAVE THE WORD ALLAH TO MEAN GOD. NOW WITH REGARD TO THE ABRAHAMIC FAITHS, GOD AS DESCRIBED IN THE TORAH AND THE QUR'AN BEAR STRIKING SIMILARITIES AND ARE IN FACT SAME. THE NEW TESTAMENT OF THE CHRISTIANS DESCRIBES GOD AS HAVING THE ATTRIBUTES STATED ABOVE. IT IS HOWEVER RADICALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER BOOK IN ITS CLAIM (which is quite strange), THAT GOD EXISTS AS THREE GODS ALL RESIDING IN THE SAME GODHEAD. WHAT IS IRONIC IN ALL THESE IS THAT THE CHRISTIANS WHOSE CLAIM ABOUT GOD IS IN DESPERATE WANT OF EVIDENCE AS THEIR TRINITY CLAIMS ARE NOT ONLY STRANGE (in the light of older and latter scriptures), BUT ALSO QUITE INEXPLICABLE, ARE THE ONES WHO CONSTANTLY STRESS OVER THE NAME THAT MUSLIMS CALL GOD. THE ISSUE ISN'T WHAT WE CALL THE SUPREME BEING BUT KNOWING HIM AS THE ONE TRUE GOD WHO SHARES HIS DOMINION OF THE UNIVERSE WITH NONE AND WORSHIPPING HIM AS SUCH. |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by shadeyinka(m): 10:09am On Oct 29, 2020 |
Ustec:Leave that one alone for now and answer the extremely simple question. All I need is your evidence of Jesus not completing his mission. |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by shadeyinka(m): 10:13am On Oct 29, 2020 |
Ustec:Oh, so you have a little intelligence to understand the futility of your argument. There is no difference between the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit. |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by shadeyinka(m): 10:33am On Oct 29, 2020 |
motayoayinde:Point of correction! God is NOT a name: God is a title of description of the Creator of the world. The base line is that people ascribe this title to their own Deity! The real question is this: are all the deities the same personality? Is Jehovah Yahweh the Same as Allah? If they are the same, then Christians, Jews and Muslims worship the same God. If they are not the same, then they don't all worship the same God. Thanks 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by shadeyinka(m): 10:56am On Oct 29, 2020 |
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Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by Ustec: 1:55pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
shadeyinka:I thought there use to be 'the son' too, seems "the word' is the updated version now. The argument is,Jesus is not God. |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by Ustec: 1:59pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
shadeyinka:There are a lot of verses in the Quran on that, do your findings yourself. 1 Like |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by shadeyinka(m): 4:00pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Ustec:Your answer is in the Qur'an which came 600 years after the Injeel? Let me go with it if you can find just ONE. Just quote it. I am a student studying the Qur'an too, I will concor if need be. Just one of the several verses will do |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by shadeyinka(m): 5:34pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Ustec:Is Jesus not the Word of Allah? The argument is where you got your information that Jesus didn't complete Mission on earth! Why were you afraid to answer the question? |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by Ustec: 11:02pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
shadeyinka:I won't, I already told you to do that yourself. |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by chuose2: 11:14pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Ustec: God forbid that He is allah Jesus is the Son of God with power Mohammed is the prophet for allah NOT God |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by Ustec: 11:53pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
chuose2:When you visit Israel some day, you will sit down and start asking yourself questions. |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by delishpot: 1:38am On Oct 30, 2020 |
OtemAtum: Otem, where did you get this book of universal history? |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by shadeyinka(m): 7:14am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Ustec:Can one see what is not present!? Please next time, don't just regurgitate memory verses, justify assertions with facts! Good day |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by Freeze007(m): 12:35am On Nov 14, 2020 |
OtemAtum: Leader Olumba Olumba Obu taught me that the sum total of all creation is BROTHERHOOD And He the creator is FATHER becomes he Fathers all his creation So yeah, you are right...Though Leader Olumba Olumba Obu preached with the Bible I am convinced he only used that to draw attention for the REAL dish,thing is, people do not understand Leader Olumba Olumba Obu let alone understand HIS mission. Let me confess his ways and patterns are somewhat in the concept you teach about God this shows the sincerity of the Creator....You find HIM you see HIM SONG modé yomdemi okud mi Koro nsaghade de spirit nnam Utom Translation Those who seek me find me for I work in the spirit ☮️ |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by chuose2: 6:29am On Aug 28, 2021 |
Freeze007:RUBBISH |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by haekymbahdx: 9:59am On Aug 28, 2021 |
chuose2:The fact is the word "Allah" is more appropriate for the creator than the word "God".. English, Arabic and Aramaic don't have a one on one relationship. Islam, Christianity, and Judaism all regard themselves as Abrahamic religion. Arabic and Aramaic are both semitic language hence quite similar. Arab christians and Jews also call God "Allah" so it is not only Muslims. Exodus 6 2 And God said to Moses, I am the Lord. 3 I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as God Almighty [El-Shaddai], but by My [a]name the Lord [Yahwe] I did not make Myself known to them. In Aramaic the language of Jesus God is Eloah while in Arabic it is Illah, in English it is God. Now here is the problem between English and this semitic languages. There are many gods so inorder to indicate the supreme God the definite is often added to the semitic language while in English the definite article is not needed you only need to change the letter "G" to upper case the it will mean the supreme God. god - Illah while GOD - ALLAH The reason why Muslims don't regard English word God as appropriate for the creator is that both God and god have the same sound and pronunciation you can only distinguish them when you write it down. If we truly want to interprete Allah to English it would mean "The God" not GOD per se can you see that English does not really do justice to the interpretation of Allah because it does not require definite article the to distinguish between God and god when pronounced. If I say there is no god but God it feels like I am still saying the same thing because it still has the same sound. So I think it better to say There is no god but The God/Allah.. .. So in essence English and Arabic don't enjoy a one on one relationship that's why Muslims read Quran in Arabic in the language it was revealed in. This problem is evident it Christianity when they convert Greek to English they have misinterpreted so many verses that we need to constantly go the manuscript to cross check. |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by haekymbahdx: 10:05am On Aug 28, 2021 |
shadeyinka:Are you sure Jehovah loves Jew check out this verse Mathew 23 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, murdering the prophets and stoning those who are sent to you! How often would I have gathered your children together as a mother fowl gathers her brood under her wings, and you refused! 38 Behold, your house is forsaken and desolate (abandoned and left destitute of God's help). [I Kings 9:7; Jer. 22:5.] 39 For I declare to you, you will not see Me again until you say, Blessed (magnified in worship, adored, and exalted) is He Who comes in the name of the Lord!( |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by shadeyinka(m): 10:44am On Aug 28, 2021 |
haekymbahdx:See the highlighted texts. That is discipline from a Father who is disciplining his erring child> You will not see me again UNTIL...is not the same thin as You will never see me again. FYI: Matthew 21:9 The crowds that went ahead of Him and those that followed were shouting: "Hosanna to the Son of David!" "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!" "Hosanna in the highest!" Hear what the scripture said about Him John 1:11-12 11 He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. 12 But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God— A Father who loves his Son disciplines his son. If you need more scriptures, I can give you. But it is very obvious that Allah hates the Jews, whereas, Jehovah loves the Jews Thanks |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by 2dominate: 12:29pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
OtemAtum:Who wrote that your book ? |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by OtemAtum: 12:46pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
2dominate:The book was written by many people/godsbof both the past world and the present world. Writers include Jasheb, Atum, LUWABI, Bongo, Nicolas, Krishna, Otem Erectus, etc. It's the compilation I am doing. |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by haekymbahd(m): 1:43pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
shadeyinka:Mathew 23 39 For I declare to you, you will not see Me again until you say, Blessed (magnified in worship, adored, and exalted) is He Who comes in the name of the Lord!( Proof that Jehovah has returned to isreal. Was it not Jesus that cursed them. Has Jehovah restored isreal because as at today there are little or few christians in isreal even there are more Muslims is isreal than christians. Ask yourself has the Jews said blessed is he that came in the name of the Lord. Act 1 6 So when they were assembled, they asked Him, Lord, is this the time when You will reestablish the kingdom and restore it to Israel? 7 He said to them, It is not for you to become acquainted with and know [b]what time brings [the things and events of time and their definite periods] or fixed [c]years and seasons (their critical niche in time), which the Father has appointed (fixed and reserved) by His own choice and authority and personal power. Allah SWT said: "Indeed, those who have believed [in Prophet Muhammad] and those [before Him] who were Jews or Sabeans or Christians - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve." (QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 69) * Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com Do t try to be an hypocrite here according to christians anyone who does not accept Jesus as Lord and savior will not make heaven as the Jews accepted him as their Lord. Jehovah hates Jews.. |
Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by haekymbahd(m): 1:47pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
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Re: Proof God Is NOT The Same As Allah by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:43pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
This is nothing because they made the provision so that those claiming Christians will vow calling God while a Muslim will prefer saying Allah, so this proves nothing! |
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