Karleb:
It's called shinning object syndrome and we are all guilty of it.

Adam Wathan a backend developer who once worked with Taylor Otwell on Laravel had to quit his job to focus on Tailwindcss, a css framework, because he was making so much money from it.

That is why it's good to know fundamentals though, if you know php as is, you'd be able to tackle any framework or package, so far its php.


I do wonder why people go into AI directly in Nigeria without the knowledge of web or mobile app development, wetin you go dey chop before your AI job comes?

plat0:
Bro, this phenomenon is not peculiar to the tech industry, discretion is actually encouraged in businesses to prevent saturation. Most rich and successful people attained their financial standing by acting on a classified info/industry before it hits satiety(nothing stays hidden forever).

A couple of years back, some group of Nigerians made a ton of money from Upwork, fiverr, and other similar platforms because that info was not within reach of everybody, heck, at the time, getting jobs on those platform was a walk in the park because the available jobs outweighed the supply of freelancers. After a couple of years because of the deluge of participants on those platforms, the registration process became stricter and getting jobs got harder.

Bro, if you desire unprecedented wealth, you have to protect your TRADE SECRET, its just how the world works.

tensazangetsu20:
I started this thread because of the other thread a nairalander made about monetizing his skills.

Most people who learn programming start this way. HTML, CSS, JavaScript, React or angular or Vue and Node or python and Django. This are all great technologies but there aren't any easy to make money with. Getting a job with the MERN stack nowadays isn't easy. Node only powers 0.9 percent of websites globally and yet everyone wants to learn it. Hng internship everyone wanted Nodejs. 90 percent of the tech industry still uses relational and MySQL databases yet people are killing themselves over nosql databases like MongoDB and of recently graphql.

If you look on the freelance market, Upwork, Fiverr, freelancer et al and also look at the general job market you would see that there aren't that many opportunities for those stacks. The thing that gives people money, the things a junior developer can start to use to put money in their pocket isn't taught. Go and look up WordPress plugin development from youtube and there's just like two videos that explain the process. If you really want to get deeper into that, get ready to read your eyes out on the WordPress documentation. It's also the same thing with WordPress theme development. Magento is also another hot area. The largest E commerce platform in the world yet it's not taught anywhere. Shopify isn't also taught anywhere. Shopify uses liquid as its own programming language base. When was the last time you heard about this or saw anyone teaching or using it. Even the resources to learn these stuffs are very scanty.

I am presently working on a Shopify website and instead of coding a review page, I recommended to the client that we buy an app that does the same thing from the Shopify store. Would you believe a Shopify app which is basically just a JavaScript touch carousel that displays your reviews on your home page has 5 dollar monthly subscription with more than 10000 users. The theme the client is using. I had to rewrite most of the CSS. He bought it for 200 USD. I wonder how the theme was even accepted on Shopify. I mean this guys are banking low key and this are technologies no one talks about or even looks at. Everyone is MERN stack, MERN stack. If you mention WordPress they fit kill you or remove your head. Why does the tech industry hide where people can make money from men?

tensazangetsu20:


Upwork has never been easy ever. They used to give 60 connects before for free and if you don't get a job there you get your account banned. They stopped banning accounts once they got rid of free connects. There's still a ton of money to be made on Upwork but it requires a huge investment on your part both in terms of money and time. The funny thing is that most of these technologies have been there for ages but are even made fun of by other developers. Walk into a group of developers and tell them that you are a WordPress developer and watch them laugh at you yet how many of them can build a custom WordPress theme from scratch. People dont even know that you can use React and angular to build WordPress themes now through the WordPress rest API
. This site https://atlantadumpsters.com/ was made with WordPress. Just look at how slick the animations are. This was a custom theme job and I heard the owners paid 10000 USD for it.

plat0:
There is money to be made but you need a keen eye to discover gold mines and tenancity.

Carmal90:


So I should start learning WordPress??

tensazangetsu20:

My own is that even the resources to even learn the things aren't that much and the ones there are rubbish. WordPress theme development courses on Udemy are so few and rubbish old outdated crap. YouTube story. Shopify the same thing. The guys who even know it are hoarding the knowledge whereas the ones that you can't make money with MERN stack and co courses full ground yapa. Enter youtube you will even see how to build youtube with MERN stack.

plat0:
Hello Engineers,

Please I need mid level and senior software engineers proficient is both PHP using MySQL database. Please i would appreciate strong applications/referrals.

2 days onsite 3 days remote.

300k - 700k

Recruitwitholive@gmail.com

Thank you.Hello Engineers,

Please I need mid level and senior software engineers proficient is both PHP using MySQL database. Please i would appreciate strong applications/referrals.

2 days onsite 3 days remote.

300k - 700k

Recruitwitholive@gmail.com

Thank you.

plat0:
Learn WordPress theme and plugin development, and PHP.
In the past week, I have seen four openings for PHP developers with compensations ranging from 300k-700k(full time employment) in a local code club watsapp group. Those positions are unfilled because everybody is learning Nodejs and Django.

tensazangetsu20:
I started this thread because of the other thread a nairalander made about monetizing his skills.

Most people who learn programming start this way. HTML, CSS, JavaScript, React or angular or Vue and Node or python and Django. This are all great technologies but there aren't any easy to make money with. Getting a job with the MERN stack nowadays isn't easy. Node only powers 0.9 percent of websites globally and yet everyone wants to learn it. Hng internship everyone wanted Nodejs. 90 percent of the tech industry still uses relational and MySQL databases yet people are killing themselves over nosql databases like MongoDB and of recently graphql.

If you look on the freelance market, Upwork, Fiverr, freelancer et al and also look at the general job market you would see that there aren't that many opportunities for those stacks. The thing that gives people money, the things a junior developer can start to use to put money in their pocket isn't taught. Go and look up WordPress plugin development from youtube and there's just like two videos that explain the process. If you really want to get deeper into that, get ready to read your eyes out on the WordPress documentation. It's also the same thing with WordPress theme development. Magento is also another hot area. The largest E commerce platform in the world yet it's not taught anywhere. Shopify isn't also taught anywhere. Shopify uses liquid as its own programming language base. When was the last time you heard about this or saw anyone teaching or using it. Even the resources to learn these stuffs are very scanty.

I am presently working on a Shopify website and instead of coding a review page, I recommended to the client that we buy an app that does the same thing from the Shopify store. Would you believe a Shopify app which is basically just a JavaScript touch carousel that displays your reviews on your home page has 5 dollar monthly subscription with more than 10000 users. The theme the client is using. I had to rewrite most of the CSS. He bought it for 200 USD. I wonder how the theme was even accepted on Shopify. I mean this guys are banking low key and this are technologies no one talks about or even looks at. Everyone is MERN stack, MERN stack. If you mention WordPress they fit kill you or remove your head. Why does the tech industry hide where people can make money from men?

MrJavaS:
True talk...I asked a top udemy instructor on whether he would teach PHP and he said no and never.

The best bet is to come up with a good idea and use tech stacks like MERN or MEVN to complete it and earn your money.

MrJavaS:
True talk...I asked a top udemy instructor on whether he would teach PHP and he said no and never.

The best bet is to come up with a good idea and use tech stacks like MERN or MEVN to complete it and earn your money.

tensazangetsu20:

The only way to make money with the MERN stack is to get a job or build your own startup. Startups are hard and there's a 95 percent chance of failure. If one needs a team of developers to build an idea, to me they have already failed. This WordPress, Shopify and Magento stuff is something a developer can use few hours of their time to build and they are already part of an ecosystem. Imagine building a useful wordpress plugin with a freemium model. Plugin has like 10000 downloads and you even start charging 5 dollars a month for advanced features and like 1000 people pay. That's 5000 USD a month from one plugin. WordPress advertises your plugins. You don't need SEO, you don't need a whole development team, you don't need frontend or backend or UI and UX designers and all of that to do a plugin. The koko is the knowledge to even learn to build and develop a useful plugin in hidden from the public. Not much videos and courses so you need to read your eyes out and ask questions out there.

jaycpu:
is there any cheap way to host these stacks? I mean u can get a cheap server for php sites to host at relatively cheap price. any availability for the MERN stack

tensazangetsu20:

The only way to make money with the MERN stack is to get a job or build your own startup. Startups are hard and there's a 95 percent chance of failure. If one needs a team of developers to build an idea, to me they have already failed. This WordPress, Shopify and Magento stuff is something a developer can use few hours of their time to build and they are already part of an ecosystem. Imagine building a useful wordpress plugin with a freemium model. Plugin has like 10000 downloads and you even start charging 5 dollars a month for advanced features and like 1000 people pay. That's 5000 USD a month from one plugin. WordPress advertises your plugins. You don't need SEO, you don't need a whole development team, you don't need frontend or backend or UI and UX designers and all of that to do a plugin. The koko is the knowledge to even learn to build and develop a useful plugin in hidden from the public. Not much videos and courses so you need to read your eyes out and ask questions out there.

MrJavaS:



You are right bro. But even though there's a 95% chance of failure one needs to try. That others tried and failed doesn't mean one should give up.

Hanging on to obsolete technology isn't the way. The MERN or MEVN is overtaking the likes of WordPress and PHP. It'll take time though. Unless one is only after the money. It's no use devoting time to learning the likes of PHP or WordPress (You're not even considered a developer sef)

MrJavaS:



You are right bro. But even though there's a 95% chance of failure one needs to try. That others tried and failed doesn't mean one should give up.

Hanging on to obsolete technology isn't the way. The MERN or MEVN is overtaking the likes of WordPress and PHP. It'll take time though. Unless one is only after the money. It's no use devoting time to learning the likes of PHP or WordPress (You're not even considered a developer sef)

tensazangetsu20:

Overtaking yet node is still at 0.9 percent after ten years. MongoDB has less than 2 percent market share. PHP still powers 80 percent of websites and WordPress 33 percent. Even scala an obscure language has a greater market share than Nodejs at 1.9 percent.

MrJavaS:



You are right bro. But even though there's a 95% chance of failure one needs to try. That others tried and failed doesn't mean one should give up.

Hanging on to obsolete technology isn't the way. The MERN or MEVN is overtaking the likes of WordPress and PHP. It'll take time though. Unless one is only after the money. It's no use devoting time to learning the likes of PHP or WordPress (You're not even considered a developer sef)

tensazangetsu20:
I started this thread because of the other thread a nairalander made about monetizing his skills.

Most people who learn programming start this way. HTML, CSS, JavaScript, React or angular or Vue and Node or python and Django. This are all great technologies but there aren't any easy to make money with. Getting a job with the MERN stack nowadays isn't easy. Node only powers 0.9 percent of websites globally and yet everyone wants to learn it. Hng internship everyone wanted Nodejs. 90 percent of the tech industry still uses relational and MySQL databases yet people are killing themselves over nosql databases like MongoDB and of recently graphql.

If you look on the freelance market, Upwork, Fiverr, freelancer et al and also look at the general job market you would see that there aren't that many opportunities for those stacks. The thing that gives people money, the things a junior developer can start to use to put money in their pocket isn't taught. Go and look up WordPress plugin development from youtube and there's just like two videos that explain the process. If you really want to get deeper into that, get ready to read your eyes out on the WordPress documentation. It's also the same thing with WordPress theme development. Magento is also another hot area. The largest E commerce platform in the world yet it's not taught anywhere. Shopify isn't also taught anywhere. Shopify uses liquid as its own programming language base. When was the last time you heard about this or saw anyone teaching or using it. Even the resources to learn these stuffs are very scanty.

I am presently working on a Shopify website and instead of coding a review page, I recommended to the client that we buy an app that does the same thing from the Shopify store. Would you believe a Shopify app which is basically just a JavaScript touch carousel that displays your reviews on your home page has 5 dollar monthly subscription with more than 10000 users. The theme the client is using. I had to rewrite most of the CSS. He bought it for 200 USD. I wonder how the theme was even accepted on Shopify. I mean this guys are banking low key and this are technologies no one talks about or even looks at. Everyone is MERN stack, MERN stack. If you mention WordPress they fit kill you or remove your head. Why does the tech industry hide where people can make money from men?

tensazangetsu20:

Bros exactly. The unshiny and unattractive things are what gives money o.

Karleb:


I don't really get it.

Ask them why they hate PHP and they don't have a genuine reason.

A true developer never hate any language.
If tomorrow I will need to learn Matlab to add value (make money), I will!

I've been hearing PHP is dead since I can remember but PHP 8 is coming before year end.

Many developer like to live in a perceived future while neglecting what is going on now.

Na them sabi o.


You see that PHP and MYSQL, it is a devine marriage made from above, nothing can ever separate them.