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Re: Incorrect post by amizzy48: 9:35am On Nov 11, 2020
2dotsproperties:


You cannot be judge, jury and accuser at same time. That's not how it works

You supported someone that said he was scammed and when challenged, you admit you have no evidence.
The only thing you keep talking about is some random Young Sammy. Like we have said, the seller put up German Shepherd Puppies for sale not Young Sammy for sale.
Till we see the evidence that there is no German Shepherd Puppies for sale or that someone has been scammed or lost money, we cannot go against the seller.

Either bring evidence or stay on the sidelines. You are at the risk of maligning a seller, if you do not have that evidence.
keep on defending the scammer. mr lawyer
Re: Incorrect post by 2dotsproperties: 9:42am On Nov 11, 2020
We are also going ahead to suspend, delete and remove all other posts relating to this seller.

Thank you.
Re: Incorrect post by Youngsammyysk: 9:44am On Nov 11, 2020
2dotproperties or whatever ur name his, do u no dis ur NairaLandforum is no more save for people to buy dogs ot things than to get scammed, first I can get u sued for this ur negligence and unprofessional by advertising my dogs with out my approve trying to scam people.
Re: Incorrect post by 2dotsproperties: 9:48am On Nov 11, 2020
amizzy48:

keep on defending the scammer. mr lawyer

And you should learn to have evidence before throwing allegations. We stated from the beginning that we wanted to see evidence. You had none. Someone else did. It is wrong and unlawful to act on mere allegations without evidence. We got the evidence now provided by someone else, not you. Seller has been sanctioned and will be removed from our platform.
We do not tolerate that kind of behavior on our platform. That is the exact reason we require every seller to provide a verifiable Government issued ID along with Phone numbers which we verify.

End of the matter
Re: Incorrect post by rastaLivity: 9:49am On Nov 11, 2020
2dotsproperties:


My friend, you guys are supporting the assertion that someone got scammed and lost money due to the seller Ad. You still have not brought any evidence of the scam. Bringing random phone numbers here is not evidence of a scam. The issue at stake is German Shepherd Puppies for sale not the picture of a human being in the Ad. Anyone can use any picture that depicts what they are trying to sell.

We need to see evidence that someone was scammed and lost money as claimed. We will not hesitate to blacklist the seller, once evidence is provided of any wrongdoing or scam.
@bolded, can you imagine this nonsense
Re: Incorrect post by Youngsammyysk: 9:51am On Nov 11, 2020
Be careful so I don't get u arrested and sue, I see u won't approve dis
Re: Incorrect post by 2dotsproperties: 9:59am On Nov 11, 2020
Youngsammyysk:
Be careful so I don't get u arrested and sue, I see u won't approve dis

I believe if you read the fine print on our Terms and Conditions, you will find all the liability requirements for users and the platform. Users are responsible for their posts. However, if we find any intent to mislead or scam, then we have to act. I believe we have acted based on the picture and history you provided. It still does not prove anyone was scammed or lost money but the trail is enough to prove a misleading post. If anyone was scammed or lost money, that would be a criminal case.

We have acted.

We consider this matter closed.
Re: Incorrect post by amizzy48: 10:13am On Nov 11, 2020
2dotsproperties:


And you should learn to have evidence before throwing allegations. We stated from the beginning that we wanted to see evidence. You had none. Someone else did. It is wrong and unlawful to act on mere allegations without evidence. We got the evidence now provided by someone else, not you. Seller has been sanctioned and will be removed from our platform.
We do not tolerate that kind of behavior on our platform. That is the exact reason we require every seller to provide a verifiable Government issued ID along with Phone numbers which we verify.

End of the matter
you dont knw ur job when an allegation is laid down from 2 or more people about a particular post it is left for u the administrator to do investigation in some well known platform that post will be suspended immediately after a report until investigation is carried out ; i gave u young sammy contact to verify for ur self before he came publicly to do that. neva try to defend what u ar not sure becos u can be implicated alongside
lastly did you check image of id the emmanuel use to register on ur platform to see whether it comform with the one that carry those puppy. from all indication you didnot carry proper investagation. do you knw impersonation is a serious offence ?
Re: Incorrect post by amizzy48: 10:26am On Nov 11, 2020
Youngsammyysk:
2dotproperties or whatever ur name his, do u no dis ur NairaLandforum is no more save for people to buy dogs ot things than to get scammed, first I can get u sued for this ur negligence and unprofessional by advertising my dogs with out my approve trying to scam people.
@ youngsammyysk. the so called 2dotproperties is not the owner of nairaland ,he only advertise those fake puppies on this platform.
the nairaland pet section was open for pet lovers and breeders to market their pet just like other social media

breeder and petlovers protect themselves from scammers that was y ur attention was need on that post by 2dotproperties
Re: Incorrect post by 2dotsproperties: 10:30am On Nov 11, 2020
amizzy48:

you dont knw ur job when an allegation is laid down from 2 or more people about a particular post it is left for u the administrator to do investigation in some well known platform that post will be suspended immediately after a report until investigation is carried out ; i gave u young sammy contact to verify for ur self before he came publicly to do that. neva try to defend what u ar not sure becos u can be implicated alongside
lastly did you check image of id the emmanuel use to register on ur platform to see whether it comform with the one that carry those puppy. from all indication you didnot carry proper investagation. do you knw impersonation is a serious offence ?

I really should not engage you anymore on this but for posterity let me address your points:

1. Our Terms and Conditions state clearly that users are responsible for their posts. We have to see verifiable evidence before we act. That was done immediately we saw the original images and trail for the items in question

2. A user is not obligated to use his ID picture or image in his product post. Imagine a firm with more than one staff, any other staff can be in their product Ad and that would be just fine. There is no obligation to use the same image in the ID to market their product.

3. The Voters card ID used tallies with the name on the account and AD. That is a Government issued ID. By law, you have to respect that. Imagine you travel with a Nigerian passport outside the country and people begin to doubt if the name on the passport is that of the bearer. It is not done.
We also verify phone numbers using a security OTP at point of registration. Every seller can be traced, that is the way our platform is securely designed.

4. We asked repeatedly from the beginning to see some evidence, You did not provide any. Imagine this scenario, if you have competitors and they attempt to tarnish you online without evidence. That can't be right. That was why we asked for direct evidence. We got some not all and we still acted. I believe we have acted as an impartial arbiteur, and correctly too.

We are really busy here and would like everyone to move on. Seller has been terminated from the platform.
Thank you
Re: Incorrect post by 2dotsproperties: 11:06am On Nov 11, 2020
Youngsammyysk:
2dotproperties or whatever ur name his, do u no dis ur NairaLandforum is no more save for people to buy dogs ot things than to get scammed, first I can get u sued for this ur negligence and unprofessional by advertising my dogs with out my approve trying to scam people.

Mr Young Sammy , I believe you can read and write, even if barely. Please use civil language here. The matter has been explained, digested and dealt with. Read the posts and understand what has been said there.
Re: Incorrect post by Eveezy(m): 4:08pm On Nov 11, 2020
2dotsproperties:


This is what we have been asking for. Verifiable evidence. The seller would be sanctioned immediately and his post taken down. Thanks for the detailed explanation
You are welcome, I had to bring him here
Re: Incorrect post by ENIGMA24(m): 5:36pm On Nov 11, 2020
2dotsproperties:
The seller has offered more pictures of the same German Shepherd Puppies on sale. He is sure of what he is selling.

So we need to have any counter evidence from any of you to question that. We can't act based on allegations only. Please send us any evidence of a scam, so we can deal with it.

We are waiting

I don’t know how DMs work here, send me a mail and I’ll send you receipts of payment and explain this scam ring to you!
It’s a full blown scam ring!
It’s not just one person!
A transport company is also in on this scam!
Re: Incorrect post by ENIGMA24(m): 5:40pm On Nov 11, 2020
2dotsproperties:


Please be sure of what you are saying. All sellers on our platform are required to turn in a photo ID issued by the Government, with their details clearly shown before they can post any Ad on our platform. This seller has a photo ID with us and can be traced without any issues.

But we need to see evidence of any scam. So far you are only throwing allegations. Please back it up with some evidence so we can handle it from our end.

If you sure have this informations it means you can help me trace my money, I need to find this guys, I lost over a hundred thousand naira to this sour deal.
Re: Incorrect post by MANCHESTERBLAC(m): 12:51pm On Nov 13, 2020
2dotsproperties:


I really should not engage you anymore on this but for posterity let me address your points:

1. Our Terms and Conditions state clearly that users are responsible for their posts. We have to see verifiable evidence before we act. That was done immediately we saw the original images and trail for the items in question

2. A user is not obligated to use his ID picture or image in his product post. Imagine a firm with more than one staff, any other staff can be in their product Ad and that would be just fine. There is no obligation to use the same image in the ID to market their product.

3. The Voters card ID used tallies with the name on the account and AD. That is a Government issued ID. By law, you have to respect that. Imagine you travel with a Nigerian passport outside the country and people begin to doubt if the name on the passport is that of the bearer. It is not done.
We also verify phone numbers using a security OTP at point of registration. Every seller can be traced, that is the way our platform is securely designed.

4. We asked repeatedly from the beginning to see some evidence, You did not provide any. Imagine this scenario, if you have competitors and they attempt to tarnish you online without evidence. That can't be right. That was why we asked for direct evidence. We got some not all and we still acted. I believe we have acted as an impartial arbiteur, and correctly too.

We are really busy here and would like everyone to move on. Seller has been terminated from the platform.
Thank you

Bro i have no other choice than to actually say you are the real scammer here because you modified all your topics with this are you trying to say that it the same person that posted all those dogs for sale on your website?
Why modifying others?
Re: Incorrect post by 2dotsproperties: 3:53pm On Nov 13, 2020
MANCHESTERBLAC:


Bro i have no other choice than to actually say you are the real scammer here because you modified all your topics with this are you trying to say that it the same person that posted all those dogs for sale on your website?
Why modifying others?

You should be more introspective before commenting in a public forum. New users to our platform get 5 free Ads and the affected person had all those Ads posted that have now been removed. You can still see other ads, including pet ads from other seller posted. The user has been terminated, and all his Ads removed from all postings, both on our platform and externally

Don't come online and make a fool of yourself with dodgy comprehension skills.
Re: Incorrect post by 2dotsproperties: 3:54pm On Nov 13, 2020
ENIGMA24:


If you sure have this informations it means you can help me trace my money, I need to find this guys, I lost over a hundred thousand naira to this sour deal.

Your request was acknowledged via email
Re: Incorrect post by NAijaNAzi(m): 1:07pm On Nov 14, 2020
2dotsproperties:
We are also going ahead to suspend, delete and remove all other posts relating to this seller.

Thank you.

Hope you're not stopping at just that?
Hope you're going to track him down through the ID he supposedly uploaded before being able to post the ad and get justice for the person scammed?
I just de observe the thread and honestly, from what I've seen, you're either in on it or just nonchalant towards your "platform's" image and neither of them are good smiley

Re: Incorrect post by 2dotsproperties: 1:40pm On Nov 14, 2020
NAijaNAzi:


Hope you're not stopping at just that?
Hope you're going to track him down through the ID he supposedly uploaded before being able to post the ad and get justice for the person scammed?
I just de observe the thread and honestly, from what I've seen, you're either in on it or just nonchalant towards your "platform's" image and neither of them are good smiley

And here comes another one who does not know how to read and understand simple English! You want to proudly post in a public forum without understanding the facts!

So what did you think the last post about email acknowledgment was about? Do you understand the meaning of the word "acknowledgment"?

The person that said he was scammed has been emailed. He needs to provide evidence of the scam and payments and we would assist him with the identity documents / phone number of the seller. That can be used to trace them. So far, he has not replied or provided any evidence.

Some of you need to go back to primary school. You clearly can't comprehend simple written English.

Let me reiterate for the less literate persons, that like to comment without reading, ENIGMA24 has been emailed. He can DM us or email us directly with the details/evidence of the scam. So far he has not done that.
Re: Incorrect post by ENIGMA24(m): 10:07pm On Nov 14, 2020
2dotsproperties:


And here comes another one who does not know how to read and understand simple English! You want to proudly post in a public forum without understanding the facts!

So what did you think the last post about email acknowledgment was about? Do you understand the meaning of the word "acknowledgment"?

The person that said he was scammed has been emailed. He needs to provide evidence of the scam and payments and we would assist him with the identity documents / phone number of the seller. That can be used to trace them. So far, he has not replied or provided any evidence.

Some of you need to go back to primary school. You clearly can't comprehend simple written English.

Let me reiterate for the less literate persons, that like to comment without reading, ENIGMA24 has been emailed. He can DM us or email us directly with the details/evidence of the scam. So far he has not done that.






You should also understand that I have a job and it’s not like you replied any of my messages on here immediately I sent them, it is very unfair that you would expect and immediate reply from me as regards a matter when you didn’t reply immediately either, I have been busy, I just saw this and I am going to my mail now!
I hope you keep this same energy when you see all the evidences I have.
Re: Incorrect post by ENIGMA24(m): 10:38pm On Nov 14, 2020
2dotsproperties:


And here comes another one who does not know how to read and understand simple English! You want to proudly post in a public forum without understanding the facts!

So what did you think the last post about email acknowledgment was about? Do you understand the meaning of the word "acknowledgment"?

The person that said he was scammed has been emailed. He needs to provide evidence of the scam and payments and we would assist him with the identity documents / phone number of the seller. That can be used to trace them. So far, he has not replied or provided any evidence.

Some of you need to go back to primary school. You clearly can't comprehend simple written English.

Let me reiterate for the less literate persons, that like to comment without reading, ENIGMA24 has been emailed. He can DM us or email us directly with the details/evidence of the scam. So far he has not done that.







You’ve been replied, check your mail
Re: Incorrect post by ENIGMA24(m): 11:58pm On Nov 14, 2020
There’s been a correspondence between i and the platform and they have provided me with the valid ID that allows me involve the law enforcement agencies and track down this scammer
Re: Incorrect post by 2dotsproperties: 11:12am On Nov 15, 2020
ENIGMA24:
There’s been a correspondence between i and the platform and they have provided me with the valid ID that allows me involve the law enforcement agencies and track down this scammer

I hope we all learnt a few lessons here:

- Always read the caveat on online Ads, most importantly, do not send money before seeing the product you want to purchase

It is even more sad to learn, the buyer kept sending money over even when it was apparent something was amiss. That was incredibly naive.

And to all those who were in a haste to judge, i hope the smirk of regret is beholden on you!

We would never tolerate a scam. Infact, our platform www.2dotsmarket.com is designed to be 100% scam free. No scammer can come on there and get away with it. That is why and how we are different from any other online marketplace in Nigeria. We care and would always protect our users.

This matter is closed
Re: Incorrect post by NAijaNAzi(m): 2:48pm On Nov 17, 2020
2dotsproperties:


And here comes another one who does not know how to read and understand simple English! You want to proudly post in a public forum without understanding the facts!

So what did you think the last post about email acknowledgment was about? Do you understand the meaning of the word "acknowledgment"?

The person that said he was scammed has been emailed. He needs to provide evidence of the scam and payments and we would assist him with the identity documents / phone number of the seller. That can be used to trace them. So far, he has not replied or provided any evidence.

Some of you need to go back to primary school. You clearly can't comprehend simple written English.

Let me reiterate for the less literate persons, that like to comment without reading, ENIGMA24 has been emailed. He can DM us or email us directly with the details/evidence of the scam. So far he has not done that.






I understand English very well thanks very much.
Its just that your attitude towards the whole matter didn't speak well of someone who wants to run an open, legit platform.
I'm just saying, you should have taken down the ad the moment you heard someone was scammed and carried out your investigation instead of just leaving it so that more people would fall victim and if the owner of the ad is not guilty, putting it back up wouldn't be a problem would it?
I apologise if my post offended you
I was just stating my observation from your attitude towards the whole thing.
Re: Incorrect post by BamBamK: 3:02pm On Nov 17, 2020
YSK, welcome... i be just wan call u na in i see say u don even show for here sef

Youngsammyysk:
Be careful so I don't get u arrested and sue, I see u won't approve dis
Re: Incorrect post by windvane(f): 4:05pm On Nov 17, 2020
windvane:
be careful dealing with this person....
i was the first to warm everyone about that post but greedy user went ahead without asking questions.When I contacted the so called guy,he acted good but I was better,after the normal questions and answers and how I can get the dog,the first red flag was when he asked if I wanted him to deliver,I told him we should meet,he said he had so many deliveries to make,that I should pay on delivery....Cool I said!!!next thing ,he was asking me to send some payments for basket to carry the dog,I said no,I will not pay a dime till I see the said dog,he ran away immediately!!!i came on this forum and told everyone to be careful!!!but fly wey no Dey hear word go follow shit always

Re: Incorrect post by 2dotsproperties: 3:08pm On Nov 18, 2020
NAijaNAzi:


I understand English very well thanks very much.
Its just that your attitude towards the whole matter didn't speak well of someone who wants to run an open, legit platform.
I'm just saying, you should have taken down the ad the moment you heard someone was scammed and carried out your investigation instead of just leaving it so that more people would fall victim and if the owner of the ad is not guilty, putting it back up wouldn't be a problem would it?
I apologise if my post offended you
I was just stating my observation from your attitude towards the whole thing.

Apology noted.
However, you need to understand that they are processes for every type of complaint. We cannot just act based on hearsay. From the beginning we asked for evidence but only got insults and innuendos. Things do not work that way. We seek to protect both buyers and sellers, and must remain impartial till all the facts are know.
Re: Incorrect post by 2dotsproperties: 3:10pm On Nov 18, 2020
windvane:
i was the first to warm everyone about that post but greedy user went ahead without asking questions.When I contacted the so called guy,he acted good but I was better,after the normal questions and answers and how I can get the dog,the first red flag was when he asked if I wanted him to deliver,I told him we should meet,he said he had so many deliveries to make,that I should pay on delivery....Cool I said!!!next thing ,he was asking me to send some payments for basket to carry the dog,I said no,I will not pay a dime till I see the said dog,he ran away immediately!!!i came on this forum and told everyone to be careful!!!but fly wey no Dey hear word go follow shit always

Thank you for your diligence.

People should learn to follow basic safety rules for online transactions. Never pay until you see the product/goods or pet in this case.

I hope the lesson is clear for everyone.

Thanks

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