Dtruthspeaker:
Error, Mr Corrections, The Lord, Jesus, The Christ, is not a man!

He only Came down and Took Up our form, but He is Not one of Us.

So, please, make the necessary correction to reflect the True State of Affairs!

Dtruthspeaker:
Error, Mr Corrections, The Lord, Jesus, The Christ, is not a man!

He only Came down and Took Up our form, but He is Not one of Us.

So, please, make the necessary correction to reflect the True State of Affairs!

Corrections:


Thanks................I completely agree with you. Jesus is a spirit from God that came to earth to live among men as human being ( man ). Even while living among men on earth his words were spirit and life from God in heaven. I only used that tittle for easy understanding.

Corrections:


Thanks................I completely agree with you. Jesus is a spirit from God that came to earth to live among men as human being ( man ). Even while living among men on earth his words were spirit and life from God in heaven. I only used that tittle for easy understanding.

Ihedinobi3:

I'm pretty sure the Bible disagrees with both of you.

14 Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, 15 and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. 16 For indeed He does not give aid to angels, but He does give aid to the seed of Abraham. 17 Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.
Hebrews 2:14-18 (NKJV)

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Dtruthspeaker:


Without reading through your whole post, 2 Accurate words Stick Out "Partaken," and "shared in" then I saw the emboldened word "like" in the Statement "He had to be made like His brethren", you have expressly expressed the very words Establishing our Claim.

In KjV Hebrews 2 is written "took part" which Clearly means that a person was not there at the beginning but he put himself into the transaction.

Which is proven by John 1, 1-4; 6-11 and Mathew11, 1-6.

Ihedinobi3:


Since you must know what "partake" and "take part" both mean, what other way did you expect the translators to say that Jesus became human just like those He came to save?

Dtruthspeaker:


Then your question and objection is moot because those words Paid Great Attention to the Knowledge of Who He Really Was and Is and the Authors never deviated from that fact

Also, the Authors knew to Always Give Full Respect to Him whenever they attempted to talk about Him and this always evident in the way they spoke about Him.

In KjV, the palpable Fear and Reverence of Him is there!

Ihedinobi3:

For what it is worth...

John's Gospel was written specifically to demonstrate that Jesus was God Himself come in the flesh. His first epistle too was written to point out the importance of believing that He was truly Human just as He was truly God. Among the things he said in that epistle was the argument that the Spirit, the water and the blood were all witnesses to the humanity of Jesus Christ (1 John 5:6,8 ). The Spirit clearly witnessed to the Humanity of our Lord through so very many things: the Virgin Birth, the miracles, the real death on the Cross, and the Resurrection, to mention some very important proofs. The water and the blood of John 19:34 proved too that the Lord's body was a real human body. It was no illusion or any kind of gimmick.

John insists in his epistle that it is impossible to be saved if one does not believe that Jesus is both fully and truly God and fully and truly Man.

2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
1 John 4:2-3 (NKJV)

So, I would be careful about continuing down this path that you seem to like so much. The Scriptures are clear that rejection of either the Deity or the true Humanity of Jesus Christ is proof that one is not only not a child of God, but also that one is of the antichrist.

Dtruthspeaker:


Ah! You misunderstand us, we do not reject The Lord Jesus Christ, we Rather Love Him And we Recognise His Great Greatness over us and we are happy to keep that knowledge before our eyes Always.

Now, we further appreciate that this same Great and Mighty Lord, Left His Great High and Holy Place to visit little foolish wicked us on earth. to teach and do many many wonderful and great things for we little foolish wicked us, and All were done for our benefit and to His Holy hurt, injury and death!

And to do that, He took up our form and likeness!

Like He told Pilate, "Thou couldest have no power at all against me," we therefore recognise and seek to always remember that, The Lord Jesus Christ, is God Over and Above us Always, and we never intend to forget it even for a micro-milli-second!

Ihedinobi3:


This is what you said:

"Error, Mr Corrections, The Lord, Jesus, The Christ, is not a man!

He only Came down and Took Up our form, but He is Not one of Us."

I'm not sure how anyone can misunderstand that. If Jesus is not a man, then He is not a man. But the Bible is clear that He is. The Bible is also clear that He is God. The Bible is also clear that it is only by believing both things along with the truth of His Sacrifice for us on the Cross that we are saved. The question is whether you agree with the Bible or not. So far, I am not sure that you do, but that really is your problem, not mine. I'm just pointing it out to you for what good it might do you.

Dtruthspeaker:


I understand your intentions but this is the wisdom, if and when a king takes up the clothes of the poor, is he the poor?

And does the clothing prevent him from being a king, deserving of honour and fear?

I believe that you would agree with me that the Right and Accurate Answers to these questions posed is "No", He is a king with and without the clothings of the poor.

And even with the clothings of the poor, he remaineth a king still, retaining all his honour and fear!

For any who dealeth with the king, though he wear the clothings of the poor, as one who is poor, such a one is not wise at all!

Ihedinobi3:


You don't need to persuade me of anything, I assure you. I'm perfectly content in worshiping Jesus Christ as God and also recognizing Him as a fellow Man and my big Brother too, because the Bible tells me that He is both. I'm not at issue here. I have shown you what I believe and what the Bible says. It's your own self that you have to deal with. If you think that there is some way around things that the Bible says unequivocally, then that is a problem that you, not I, have.

For me and any other Bible-believing Christian, we simply cannot consider anyone who rejects either the Deity or the Humanity of Jesus Christ a brother or sister, because the Bible says that they are not. That is all.

Dtruthspeaker:


You obviously have not taken notice that All the man, who Saw and Recognised Him, bowed and worshipped Him, even though He appeared to look like a man, First the wise-men from the east, then the disciples when they recognised Who He was, then my beautiful wise lady who cried for His Forgiveness in Luke 7, and the dying thief!

All these Recognised Who He was and Is and they paid Full Respect to His Greatness and not a one ever got any reprimand or chastisement for Fully Honouring Him as The Lord God, while in His Presence, in the likeness of man!

Ihedinobi3:


I'm not sure what you're fighting about.

You were the one that claimed that I misunderstood you after I posted the passage in 1 John 5. Obviously I didn't. Rather, you obviously don't believe what the Bible says about Jesus Christ and you are only attempting to hide your unbelief.

You don't need to persuade me that you are right. I don't believe you and I honestly don't care what you think is true as long as you are opposing the Bible. If you agree with the Bible, then you're my friend. If you don't, you're not. It doesn't matter what you think I should believe. As I said, I only pointed your error out so that you can be saved if you are willing to be. But that choice is up to you. It has nothing to do with me.

Again, there is no question that Jesus was and is God forevermore. The issue for you is whether you believe that He also became a true Man and died on the Cross for our sins and was resurrected as a true Man forevermore for our justification. That is what the Bible teaches. If you don't believe it, you're not saved. If you do, you are.

Dtruthspeaker:


My friend, i sincerely did not wish to directly point out the errors of your thinking but rather I adopted the policy of "let us agree to disagree" but you leave me no choice.

This is my comprehensive opinion on the subject and I am in Full Compliance with All The Laws of God for The Lord Clearly Said

Luke 12:4-5
4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.

5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Doth any man have power to kill my soul? No! I, say, a man hath No Such power, But All Power, Belongs To The Lord, Our God, Who is God from the beginning and Who Remaineth God, Always!

It is You who does Wrong in Reducing and Comparing The Greatness of our God, to the Dust of the earth, that He Himself, Created by claiming and saying that He is "a fellow Man" and "a true Man".

Secondly, you commit an Offence by Wrongfully Reducing and Lowering Your Creator to the Estimation of the Creation, That He, The Creator, even created, in breach of The Law of God as Exhibited in Job 4:17

Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?

I now say
Shall mortal man be equal to God? Shall the created be equal to His Maker?

Let us examine the facts to see if there was any Semblance to your "fellow man"!

1) His Holy Birth/Arrival!
Is there any"fellow man" who had or has a Holy Birthing, apart from Him? Or are all men not born of sexual copulation between man and woman? Did that ever happen to Him? Was His Holy Conceiving not a Holy Implantation without any sexual contact? Are men not conceived from coitus-penetratus-sperma-delivery?

So compare, even in His Holy Birthing, was it like the conception of "fellow man"?

2) His Conduct on earth:
look at how you and all your fellow men think, look at His Thinking! Is it the same? He said He came to fulfil The Law your fellow man now say He came to change The Law.

He said Adultery commences from heart, yet your fellow men think that they are guilty of adultery only when they have physically implemented it.

He said give to receive, your fellow man says do not give, "for if you give your thing will finish and you would not have again"

So, tell me can these 2 People be the same?

3) His Powers:
Did He drop or lose His Powers to become like man?
i- Can fellow man speak to diseases and they shall hear?
ii -Do demons fear fellow man that they beg and take permission from him?
iii- can fellow man forgive and remove the sins of his fellow man? (Even his own e no fit remove not to talk of another person's)
iv- Can fellowman warn the mosquito, fly and rat not to disturb his peace that they should hear him, not to talk of the fact of calming the stormy sea?
V- Can fellow man walk upon the sea?

4) His Holy Departure from earth!
Like His Holy Arrival on earth was Exclusively Special and Different from yours and all men, His Departure was even Greatly Exclusively Special and in complete variance with yours and all fellow man.

For which fellow man died and departed from the face of the earth and the stone moved because of his dying, not to talk of having an earthquake? Or which man died that he raised himself up from the death? Or which man lifted himself up out of the earth to be seen no more on the face of the earth?

If No Fellow man did any of these things neither is he able to do any of them, how then is it reasonably and even conceivable to dare to compare He that is God Over all these things and more, to the similitude of fellow man?

In which part of these primary things that a fellow man is made of, can you find any semblance to the fellow man, to reasonably justify you to call Him Who is God, "a fellow man"?

His birth was Exclusively and Especially Different, His Conduct was Different, His Departure was Specially Exclusively Different, so wherein is His similarity to "fellow man"?

It is Greatly Unjust, unfair, Insultive, Ridiculing, Derogatory, Defamatory, Disrespectful and in Great Disregard, to The Glory and Honour and Power and Majesty and the High Greatness of The Person of Our Lord and God, Jesus, The Christ!

You should look up the Scope and Magnitude and Power of The Offence of Defamation, in relation to The Lord and see if your thinking is correct and good and Right before The Lord!

For if you would KNOWINGLY avoid to defame no man on earth, How Then Can You Think To Knowingly Defame, Him, Who Is High and Came From On High, Even thy Own God?

This is My Stand!

MrPresident1:
Donald Trump is king of America in the order of Anointed god-kings like Cyrus of Persia, both named by name in the Bible. Only an anointed god-king could have built the temple of God in Jerusalem.

Solomon did it. Cyrus did it. The Donald did it too! Jesus will do it!

This conspiracy against The Donald will unravel; the Donald will have a great victory, he will trump his enemies, he will triumph over all of them. The voice of victory will be loud and total and complete, without any equivocation. It will be clear to everyone that the Donald has triumphed over all his enemies.

President Joe Biden's tenure is not found in the Bible. Sleepy Joe will not be president.

1 Corinthians 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

When President Trump triumphs and blows his trump and it becomes clear as daylight there is now no longer any opposition whatsoever to his kingship, rulership and and dominion, and that of America over the world too, then we will hear from heaven.

We will hear the trump of God.

2 Samuel 22:14-16
The LORD thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice.
15 And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and discomfited them.
16 And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.

Psalms 18:13
The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.

Everything before the end of this generation [of the sun].

Matthew 24:34
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

sonmvayina:
He is just a creation of the Constantine cartel . the men that he summoned to Nicea to deliberate on a single religion for the empire...it is so unfortunate that they stole the Jewish Tanakh and added their paganism at the end of Malachi. To deceive the gullible and people with feeble minds.

There is no where in the entire old testament that remotely speak of Jesu's or God having a son . no where..

Isaiah 45 :5; I am the Lord, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God: I will strengthen you although you have not known Me

6; In order that they know from the shining of the sun and from the west that there is no one besides Me; I am the Lord and there is no other.

7; Who forms light and creates darkness, Who makes peace and creates evil; I am the Lord, Who makes all these.

God is the universe itself, existence itself..whatever happens , happens because it is his will...No devil or Satan that is equal and opposite to him. The devil is part of him..

The lord (Marduk) with the universe as his garments..

Only for those with spiritual eyes..

oluwaahmed:


There's nothing spiritual about your eyes, in fact you are far from the truth.
Let me ask you, why would the creator of the universe create good and evil or the devil. A perfect, omniscient God would have seen the actions of the devil even before the devil thought of it. Can a perfect being perform imperfect works? , or allow his creations to be tampered with. A perfect God will not demand worship or kill rival worshippers because his essence will be felt by all and sundry and we would naturally just worship him.
Stop reading summerian texts of Enki et all. The summerians encountered Extraterrestrials.

sonmvayina:


You are the daffest person I have meet on this forum...so oromila is an extra terrestrial?
Okpe like you...sorry to say..

oluwaahmed:


So who the Bleep is oromila?

Corrections:
WHO REALLY IS JESUS?

Jesus is the person that had been long prophesied about by prophets that lived hundred and thousands of years before the birth of Jesus as being the messiah and son of God.
Prophets like Isaiah, David, Micah, Zechariah and others prophesied about Jesus being the messiah and son of God. You can find the prophecies of these prophets in the following book of the bible
Micah 5: 2
Isaiah 53
Psalm 2:6-12
Zechariah 9:9

WHAT WERE HIS MISSIONS?

Jesus missions can be classified into the following:

To set people free from bondage of the devil

One of the missions of the coming of Jesus to the world is to set people free from bondage of the devil e.g sicknesses, infirmities and others so that everybody can live a peaceful live.

John 8:36
So if the son of God set you free, you are free indeed

Rom 3:21-22 and 25
But now God has shown us a different way to heaven not by being good enough and trying to keep his laws, but by a new way. Now God says he will accept and acquit us and declare us not guilty if we trust Jesus christ to take away our sins. And we all can be  saved in this same way, by coming to Christ, no matter who we are  or what we have been like. Also ephesian 3:12, Gal:1-5,

To teach people the truth about God.

Jesus came to teach the world about the practical truth about God's plan for the people of the world.

John 7:16
And Jesus told them am not teaching you my own thought, but those of God who sent me.
 
To create a platform to link people to heaven and God ( messiah )

Jesus came to the world as the messiah being the son of God. Gods plan is that through Jesus we can connect to heaven and arrive at heaven eventually.

John 14:6
Jesus told him I am the way .Yes and the truth and life . No one can get to the father except by the means of me.

HOW CAN WE CONNECT TO  JESUS?

The simple way to connect to Jesus is to ask to come into your life and be the lord and saviour of your life and believe in him.

John 12:44-46
Jesus shouted to the crowd if you trust me you are really trusting God. for when you see me , you are seeing the one who sent me.  I have come as a light  to shine in this dark world , so that all who put their trust in me  will no longer wander in the darkness.

Corrections:
WHO REALLY IS JESUS?

Jesus is the person that had been long prophesied about by prophets that lived hundred and thousands of years before the birth of Jesus as being the messiah and son of God.
Prophets like Isaiah, David, Micah, Zechariah and others prophesied about Jesus being the messiah and son of God. You can find the prophecies of these prophets in the following book of the bible
Micah 5: 2
Isaiah 53
Psalm 2:6-12
Zechariah 9:9

WHAT WERE HIS MISSIONS?

Jesus missions can be classified into the following:

To set people free from bondage of the devil

One of the missions of the coming of Jesus to the world is to set people free from bondage of the devil e.g sicknesses, infirmities and others so that everybody can live a peaceful live.

John 8:36
So if the son of God set you free, you are free indeed

Rom 3:21-22 and 25
But now God has shown us a different way to heaven not by being good enough and trying to keep his laws, but by a new way. Now God says he will accept and acquit us and declare us not guilty if we trust Jesus christ to take away our sins. And we all can be  saved in this same way, by coming to Christ, no matter who we are  or what we have been like. Also ephesian 3:12, Gal:1-5,

To teach people the truth about God.

Jesus came to teach the world about the practical truth about God's plan for the people of the world.

John 7:16
And Jesus told them am not teaching you my own thought, but those of God who sent me.
 
To create a platform to link people to heaven and God ( messiah )

Jesus came to the world as the messiah being the son of God. Gods plan is that through Jesus we can connect to heaven and arrive at heaven eventually.

John 14:6
Jesus told him I am the way .Yes and the truth and life . No one can get to the father except by the means of me.

HOW CAN WE CONNECT TO  JESUS?

The simple way to connect to Jesus is to ask to come into your life and be the lord and saviour of your life and believe in him.

John 12:44-46
Jesus shouted to the crowd if you trust me you are really trusting God. for when you see me , you are seeing the one who sent me.  I have come as a light  to shine in this dark world , so that all who put their trust in me  will no longer wander in the darkness.