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What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About / Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness / Jehovah's Witness Refused Blood Transfusion For His Pregnant Wife Till She Died (2) (3) (4)
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Janosky: 7:56pm On Nov 20|
Question for Brocab & all Trinity devotees:
@ John 20:17 & 17:3 did Jesus Christ himself reject your claim of John 1:1?
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Janosky: 7:57pm On Nov 20|
@ John 20:17 & 17:3 did Jesus Christ himself reject your claim of John 1:1 ?
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:58pm On Nov 20|
Una don come again!
That's why all of them dey criticize una, nah only una sabi quote Bible?
All of them just dey argue no one fit quote Bible or make reference with confidence take prove say them sabi wetin them dey talk, but see JWs enter quotations full everywhere!
Why them no go dey vex for una?
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MuttleyLaff: 8:02pm On Nov 20|
Kobojunkiee:"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings.
(i.e. God is praised for being mysterious; rulers are praised for explaining mysteries.
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter and the glory of kings to investigate a matter.)"
- Proverbs 25:2
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth
(i.e. Make every effort to present yourself approved to God, an unashamed workman who accurately handles the word of truth)"
- 2 Timothy 2:15
"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name,
He will teach you all things and will bring to your remembrance all things that I have said to you."
- John 14:26
"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth;
for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak;
and He will disclose to you what is to come"
- John 16:13
It doesnt bother me what cop out you go for. As it happens, its nothing to do with unlike me, but is a matter of, the brain, isn't an ornament to decorate the body with, and so, we are blessed with this powerfully built processing functional gift for a purpose, for a reason(s) and for such a time(s) as this/these, so you have my blessing to feel free to underuse your brain and squander your potential(s), lmso. OK?
Kobojunkiee:Agreed upon is not and would not be admissible when yo, on that day, appear before the throne of judgment, lmso. It is "what do you say ..." and not what's already agreed upon, lmso
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Blabbermouth: 8:09pm On Nov 20|
Kobojunkiee:Okay, i respect that. Where did He (God) say so?
I'm not engaging a dictionary, I'm engaging Kobojunkie, so give me YOUR DEFINITION of will.
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:11pm On Nov 20|
That was a good one.
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|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:14pm On Nov 20|
Area fada, how now?
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Kobojunkiee: 8:19pm On Nov 20|
Blabbermouth:God's will is spoken of throughout the Bible. Jesus Christ came as a man with a will of His own which He instead chose to submit to His Father. According to Jesus Christ, the Spirit of God has a Will of His own but will instead take from the Things of Jesus Christ to give those who believe and accept to be Lead by the Spirit of God in Jesus Christ.
Blabbermouth:I like to stick to a generally agreed-upon definition to greatly reduce the possibility of confusion. So when I say "Will", I mean the dictionary meaning and not some meaning manufactured in someone's mind - I have no mind-reading abilities so you can see how that can be a problem.
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Blabbermouth: 8:24pm On Nov 20|
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Blabbermouth: 8:26pm On Nov 20|
Kobojunkiee:That is - Jesus and God are two distinct person.
I'm engaging you. I don't care where the definition is derived from, give me your own words.
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Kobojunkiee: 8:32pm On Nov 20|
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Blabbermouth: 8:33pm On Nov 20|
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MuttleyLaff: 8:52pm On Nov 20|
Why the cc me and mentioning?
Where you hear say I be part of any whatever "all Trinity devotees", hmm?
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Zzor(f): 9:09pm On Nov 20|
MaxInDHouse:Are you still active here, I thought maybe she asked you to quit this place
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MuttleyLaff: 9:20pm On Nov 20|
Preciousgirl:"He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He opened not His mouth;
He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,
And as a sheep before its shearers is silent, So He opened not His mouth."
- Isaiah 53:7
God died for you. Died in your place, so that you wont have to die and/or ultimately be destroyed
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Preciousgirl(f): 9:25pm On Nov 20|
Bless u for this truth
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by oluwaahmed: 11:15pm On Nov 20|
Its pathetic and highly pitiful. No knowledge whatsoever of the God they serve. I remember when JW guys come to my house, I would open the door for them so that we can engage in a meaningful conversation so that I gain from them and they gain from me. When a JW broken down the Lord's prayer for me I was highly impressed.
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by DappaD: 11:47pm On Nov 20|
Wow. So you had a conversation with one of Jehovah's Witnesses and he was able to explain from the Bible how Jesus is both High Priest and the Lamb? (John 1:29, Hebrews 6:20)
How then, did you come about Jesus being God again? Were you able to explain from the Scriptures as he did? Or you expected him to agree with whatever you said even if it's not inline with the Bible?
I know the path you're towing now.
As High Priest, Jesus offered up himself as that perfect Lamb sacrifice to God!
As in just as Aaron appeared before Jehovah's presence in the Most Holy compartment on the Day of Atonement(Leviticus 16:1-34) is the same way Jesus, as High Priest, appeared before Jehovah's presence in the literal heavens, this time not with the blood of bulls and goats which can never make us perfect, but with his own blood to make once and for all atonement(covering) for our sins.[Hebrews 9:11-14, 26]
So Jesus didn't appear before himself if that's what you're insinuating.
Hebrews 9:24 makes it clear that Jesus appeared before another Entity altogether, Jehovah God himself.
It may also shock you that Jesus[the Son of God] also serves in other greater capacities as King[Luke 1:31-33, Revelation 11:15], Mediator of the new covenant[Hebrews 9:15], Judge[John 5:22, Acts 17:31], Head of the Christian congregation[Ephesians 1:22, Colossians 1:18], God's Chief Executioner[Revelation 19:11-15] etc
Jesus Christ and Paul made it clear that all of these authorities were given to Jesus by God AFTER he completed his earthly conquest[Matthew 28:18, John 16:33, Philippians 2:9-11]
Nevertheless even after all these authorities and kingly rule has been handed over to him, he remains ever humble and never tries to assume equality with his God and Father, Jehovah[Matthew 11:29, Philippians 2:6]
So that means he knows that he can never be at the same level with Jehovah who is the King of Eternity[Psalm 93:2, Jeremiah 10:10, Revelation 15:3] which he expressed clearly at John 14:28:
“My Father[Jehovah] is GREATER than I am”.
This alone cancels out all trinitarian views that try to make Jesus equal to God.
When in fact his loyal apostles knew that Jesus couldn't be God and addressed him properly as “the Son of the living God[Jehovah]” and “God's Servant”! [Matthew 16:16, John 20:31, Acts 3:13 compare with Isaiah 42:1]
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by shadeyinka(m): 12:06am On Nov 21|
Guilty conscience...Did I mention the word Trinity?
Expression of my Desire
Assertion of my Way
Expression of my Persistence
Expression of my Determination
Expression of my Insistence
Expression of my Deliberateness
Expression of my Intention
The Will is just one of the attributes of the Soul (Will, Emotion and Intellect). A Will cannot exist without a conscious being effecting it.
1. My Physical Body is ME:
That is what everyone know as me
2. My Spiritual Body is ME:
That is what God, Angels and Demons see as me
3. My Soul is ME:
That is the person I refer to as Me, Myself and I.
Even if you remove all my limbs, I will still be me. Yet I am not just brain, muscle and bones. It is my soul that gives me consciousness. My Soul is the center of my WILL, EMOTION and INTELLECT.
When you are sad, is it your body that is sad or the you who lives inside you body?
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:06am On Nov 21|
I only respond when logical questions arises but when i noticed someone is just blabbing i'll keep mute, they're simply thirsty for the water! Luke 16:24
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:10am On Nov 21|
Dear Abdul~ahmed, i was a Muslim too with the military intelligence!
Only JWs teachings, activities and orderliness made me appreciate what everyone is calling "God"
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MuttleyLaff: 5:13am On Nov 21|
Gandollaar:I noticed you helinues just now reading this thread
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MuttleyLaff: 6:47am On Nov 21|
"Shey ọrọ leleyi ni?"
loosely translated means "what is this one saying?"
DappaD you seriously really didnt quote John 14:28's “My Father[Jehovah] is GREATER than I am”. thinking you are making a valid point or do you?
Watch this DappaD. If you DappaD, miraculously have the power and ability to remain being DappaD and at the some point in time, you "exerchomai" (i.e. you projected, protruded, externalised) yourself out, to become your self, but in the form of a son (i.e. Lil' DappaD) who is co-existing with you. Now tell me. In spite of the phrase: "like father, like son", who in your understanding of conventional wisdom between DappaD, the father and yourself coexisting in the form of your son Lil' DappaD, is greater, lmso?
Sons are submissive to fathers. They give in to the authority and will of fathers. Sons are influenced by their fathers, hence why fathers are greater, lmso. In this case, though DappaD, the father and Lil' DappaD, the son, are the one and same person, you, DappaD, as the father is greater than you Lil' DappaD, as the son. Capisce now?
You dont understand that the reason why the Bible contains no explicit trinitarian doctrine is because the Godhead, in reality and/or actuality, is infinity, lmso
By the way, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, is God incarnate (i.e. the Son of the living God[Jehovah]), serving Yahweh (i.e. God's Servant!). Oftentimes, if you want a thing done well, what do you do? You do it yourself, lmso. Life, from the very beginning, has always being a DIY project, lmso and hence why God led by the example of, doing it, Himself, lmso.
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by DappaD: 7:50am On Nov 21|
We've been through this countless times. I don't have time for baseless ideologies.
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MuttleyLaff: 8:09am On Nov 21|
We've been through this countless times, and the countless times out of countless times that we've been through this, you still aren't any wiser. Smh sigh.
DappaD:There is nothing baseless, delusional, unrealistic, impractical, impossible in God projecting Himself as Son (i.e. "exerchomai" projected, protruded, externalised Himself) Of course, for you, its inconceivable and beyond your bounds of possibilities to project yourself out, as a son, coexisting as you, but for God, its a piece of cake with a walk in the park to Him, lmso.
God is infinite in creativity. God is infinite in love. God is infinite in compassion. God is infinite in mercy. God is infinite in beauty. God is infinite in wisdom. God is infinite in form and/or visible shape, lmso
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by DappaD: 9:09am On Nov 21|
You're fully aware that I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses and that there's no way on earth I'm ever going to agree with you—so why bother in first place?
Your fellow brethren in Christ are right here on this thread so you can go ahead to continue arguing and debating over your gods I don't mind.
My interest is only in the OP.
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by diridiri: 9:17am On Nov 21|
The funny thing is that this makes as little sense as the Trinity.
Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing indeed.
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Blabbermouth: 9:39am On Nov 21|
"GOD DIED" - MuttleyLaff
"God" and "Died" are two different something that should never be used together. In fact, it ought to be an official English blunder.
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MuttleyLaff: 9:41am On Nov 21|
DappaD:It doesnt matter to me if you're one of Jehovah's Witnesses or as Image123 would put it, one of Jehovah Wickedness
DappaD:I havent solicited that you agree anything with me. I shed light into a darkened room, the will is yours to decide and choose if or not you want to enter the room and see what the illuminated up room reveals and/or displays
DappaD:The LORD (i.e. Yahweh) is our God, the LORD (i.e. Yahweh) is one!
Also, the Second commandment explicitly states, not to create God, in the image of any human imagination whatsoever, nor to according to an atypical of God, even not to be based on any formulation, theory, perverted idea or classic misrepresentation of God whatsoever. This means that with "fellow brethren in Christ" they have nothing to do with gods
DappaD:OP, (i.e. bingbagbo) didnt even in the original post, mention trinity, which incidentally is your pet obsession, so what exactly is the interest you have in OP
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MuttleyLaff: 9:44am On Nov 21|
Blabbermouth:"No one can take My life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily.
For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again.
For this is what My Father has commanded.”"
- John 10:18
You have no idea. Bwahahahahaha. Who mumu you like this. Were you born this mumu, or you freewill chose to become mumu, lmso
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by DappaD: 9:57am On Nov 21|
Mr MuttleyLaff make no mistake—you and I aren't having a debate. All I'm saying is that your God which you profess is totally different from the God JWs worship.(Micah 4:5)
So we're not on the same page here—if that's what you thought initially.
|Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MuttleyLaff: 10:06am On Nov 21|
chatinent:"But Jesus, knowing their thoughts, said,
“Why do you think evil in your hearts?"
- Matthew 9:4
"24But Jesus did not trust himself to them, because He knew them all.
25There was no need for anyone to tell Him about them, because He himself knew what was in their hearts."
- John 2:24-25
"And they prayed, "Lord (i.e. Yahweh aka Jehovah), You know everyone's heart.
Show us which of these two You have chosen"
- Acts 1:24
"And God, who knows the heart, showed His approval by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as He did to us".
- Acts 15:8
By comparing Matthew 9:4 with John 2:24-25 and Acts 1:24 with Acts 15:8, it is apparent that it is only God who knows people's heart
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