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Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by chronology(f): 10:28pm On Nov 27, 2020
War in yoruba land can't be easily forgotten because of the tactics the warlords deployed in the war.The Unforgettable wars include battle between ijaiye and ibadan, osogbo war, kiriji war and many more. I have published articles on osogbo and kiriji wars and the next is ijaiye-ibadan war and british-ijebu war

THE IBADAN-IJAYE WAR (1861-1862)
Ijaye was founded about the same time as Ibadan, by refugees from the Ikoyi area, led by Kurunmi, greatest soldier of his age’. It became an important communications centre, and under strong leadership it prospered. By this time, Ijaye probably had a population of 40,000 or more. Initially, relations with Ibadan were good, but rivalry between the two gradually developed. An issue for a final confrontation was provided by the death of Alafin Atiba in 1859. He was succeeded by the Aremo Adelu, and Kurunmi refused to recognise the succession because as at then,there was no Oba, and chiefships were not hereditary. The chiefs were organised into four lines: the civil chiefs, led by the Bale; the military chiefs in two lines, headed by the Balogun and the Seriki; and the women chiefs led by the Iyalode. Within each of these lines the titles were ranked, and each chief moved up a rank as those above him died or were killed in battle. The bottom ranks were filled by magaji, the elected leaders of the Ibadan descent groups. The most senior title, that of Bale, was usually filled by a Balogun who had proved himself in war. Ijaye and Oyo were already at loggerheads over the control of the Upper Ogun towns around Saki. In any case, Ibadan sided with the new Alafin and war broke out.

The war was fought in the forest between Ibadan and Ijaye. The Egbas joined the war on the side of Ijaye in order to prevent Ibadan form becoming a colossus in Yorubaland. The Ijebus also joined the Ijaye side in order to foil Ibadan’s attempt of creating enmity between them and Remo in order to secure a route to the coast. Later on, the Fulanis also joined the Ijaye to punish Ibadan from preventing them to spread Islam in Yorubaland.

The Ibadan army camped at Ilora, 13 miles north of Ijaye while the Ijaye forces, led by Ogunbonna of Abeokuta, camped at Olokemeji on the River Ogun. The Ijaye, Egba, Fulani and Ijebu forces set a blockade to cut Ibadan off from the supplies from the British in Lagos. Ibadan retaliated by blockading Ijaye from food supplies. The British merchants in Lagos lobbied the Remos of Sagamu and the Ikorodus to smuggle ammunition from Lagos to Ibadan. The support Ibadan received from the British made her brought the Ijayes on their knees in 1862 following Kurunmi’s death in 1851. The cause of his death is still unknown, but however, it is believed he committed suicide. Other towns supporting Ijaye retreated immediately. The Egbas were displeased with the actions of the Remos and Ikorodus and sought to punish them, but the British army prevented this by defeating the Egba army. The Egbas avenged this in 1867 by expelling all British missionaries in Egbaland and burned the printing house of Iwe Irohin, the first newspaper in Nigeria by Rev. Henry Townsend. The Ijebus also punished the British by not allowing any British nationals to enter Ijebuland. This was the foundation of the Battle of Imagbon (1892) also known as the 1892 Ijebu expedition.

Battle of Imagbon

In 1891, the Ijebu people, dwelling between 50 and 60 miles north-east of Lagos on the Magbon river, set a blockade on the trade route to Lagos which was then a crown colony, and charged customs dues as a source of revenue.

The Awujale (traditional ruler of Ijebu) closed down Ejirin market, cutting off Lagos from a source of up-country trade.The British government persuaded the Awujale several times to open the blockaded route but the Ijebu ruler remained adamant. However, in May 1891, a British acting governor together with some Hausa troops (mostly slaves who fled the North to South and were recruited by the British army) went to Ijebu kingdom to make an agreement with the Awujale and convince him to open the blockaded route and allowing the free passage of goods into Lagos.

The Awujale refused at first but after much persuasion and pressure, he agreed in January 1892 on the terms of receiving £500 annually as compensation for the loss of custom revenue.

However, the agreement didn’t last long. A white missionary was denied access to pass through the kingdom and was sent back. The British government were provoked by the action of the Ijebus and authorized the use of force on the kingdom. Britain gathered troops from Gold Coast (Ghana), Sierra Leone, Ibadan, and Lagos (the Hausa troops nearly 150).

On the 12th of May, 1892, the captain and his men, including some carriers, sailed up the Lagos Lagoon and landed at Ekpe. When they got to Leckie, another set of carriers (about 186 in numbers) were recruited.

On the Ijebu side, 8000 men with old rifles would be fighting the British. The British underestimated the fighting prowess of the Ijebus thus giving them some hard times in penetrating into the interiors of their kingdom.

The first day, the British army razed down four villages with some of their men sustaining fatal injuries. The next day, they proceeded to Atumba and gunned down the Ijebus with machine guns. Britain lost 12 men, a Briton and 12 Africans. Every Ijebu villages they came across was burnt to the ground. The Ijebus were really losing the battle but determined to prevent the British army from crossing the Yemoyi river.

The goddess of the Yemoyi river was said to have taken human sacrifice in order to prevent the intruders (British) from crossing. The river was dug deeper to make it impenetrable by all means for the British army. However, the British army managed to cross the sacred Yemoyi river and unleashed havoc on the Ijebus. They proceeded to the village of Imagbon.

The Ijebus had lost over 900 men while Britain lost only 56 men and have more than 30 wounded. The Ijebus were still determined to fight on but shortly afterwards, the Awujale surrendered and admitted losing the war.

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Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by Nobody: 10:46pm On Nov 27, 2020
Great! Thank you bro.
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by AlphikkaTech: 11:22pm On Nov 27, 2020
Fighting machine guns with dane guns.
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by technicallyrich(m): 12:56am On Nov 28, 2020
is these a joke.
yorubaas have never fought any war except the one with dahomry pregnant women were the women defeated and chased them down to ogbomosho.
stop bringing mockeries to the good afonja people.
we all know who they are.
lol ooo
thank you for making me laugh.
war indeed

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Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by Ndibunna: 10:45am On Nov 28, 2020
This must be joke.
Yorubas have never fought any wars in their lives.
The one they tried to fight in ilorin but was beaten to nemesis by fulani
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by Dartilo(m): 5:12pm On Nov 28, 2020
Check the pictures properly u would see that of Benin Empire
Afonja can't tell their story without Benin input lol..
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by gregyboy(m): 6:59pm On Nov 28, 2020
Yorubas can never leave benin alone

In the next life benin would not know anything like yoruba infact benin would be in asia while yoruba would still remain in the zoo with their fulani superheroes

They are just pest to our history

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Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by davidnazee: 7:47pm On Nov 28, 2020
chronology:
War in yoruba land can't be easily forgotten because of the tactics the warlords deployed in the war.The Unforgettable wars include battle between ijaiye and ibadan, osogbo war, kiriji war and many more. I have published articles on osogbo and kiriji wars and the next is ijaiye-ibadan war and british-ijebu war

THE IBADAN-IJAYE WAR (1861-1862)
Ijaye was founded about the same time as Ibadan, by refugees from the Ikoyi area, led by Kurunmi, greatest soldier of his age’. It became an important communications centre, and under strong leadership it prospered. By this time, Ijaye probably had a population of 40,000 or more. Initially, relations with Ibadan were good, but rivalry between the two gradually developed. An issue for a final confrontation was provided by the death of Alafin Atiba in 1859. He was succeeded by the Aremo Adelu, and Kurunmi refused to recognise the succession because as at then,there was no Oba, and chiefships were not hereditary. The chiefs were organised into four lines: the civil chiefs, led by the Bale; the military chiefs in two lines, headed by the Balogun and the Seriki; and the women chiefs led by the Iyalode. Within each of these lines the titles were ranked, and each chief moved up a rank as those above him died or were killed in battle. The bottom ranks were filled by magaji, the elected leaders of the Ibadan descent groups. The most senior title, that of Bale, was usually filled by a Balogun who had proved himself in war. Ijaye and Oyo were already at loggerheads over the control of the Upper Ogun towns around Saki. In any case, Ibadan sided with the new Alafin and war broke out.

The war was fought in the forest between Ibadan and Ijaye. The Egbas joined the war on the side of Ijaye in order to prevent Ibadan form becoming a colossus in Yorubaland. The Ijebus also joined the Ijaye side in order to foil Ibadan’s attempt of creating enmity between them and Remo in order to secure a route to the coast. Later on, the Fulanis also joined the Ijaye to punish Ibadan from preventing them to spread Islam in Yorubaland.

The Ibadan army camped at Ilora, 13 miles north of Ijaye while the Ijaye forces, led by Ogunbonna of Abeokuta, camped at Olokemeji on the River Ogun. The Ijaye, Egba, Fulani and Ijebu forces set a blockade to cut Ibadan off from the supplies from the British in Lagos. Ibadan retaliated by blockading Ijaye from food supplies. The British merchants in Lagos lobbied the Remos of Sagamu and the Ikorodus to smuggle ammunition from Lagos to Ibadan. The support Ibadan received from the British made her brought the Ijayes on their knees in 1862 following Kurunmi’s death in 1851. The cause of his death is still unknown, but however, it is believed he committed suicide. Other towns supporting Ijaye retreated immediately. The Egbas were displeased with the actions of the Remos and Ikorodus and sought to punish them, but the British army prevented this by defeating the Egba army. The Egbas avenged this in 1867 by expelling all British missionaries in Egbaland and burned the printing house of Iwe Irohin, the first newspaper in Nigeria by Rev. Henry Townsend. The Ijebus also punished the British by not allowing any British nationals to enter Ijebuland. This was the foundation of the Battle of Imagbon (1892) also known as the 1892 Ijebu expedition.

Battle of Imagbon

In 1891, the Ijebu people, dwelling between 50 and 60 miles north-east of Lagos on the Magbon river, set a blockade on the trade route to Lagos which was then a crown colony, and charged customs dues as a source of revenue.

The Awujale (traditional ruler of Ijebu) closed down Ejirin market, cutting off Lagos from a source of up-country trade.The British government persuaded the Awujale several times to open the blockaded route but the Ijebu ruler remained adamant. However, in May 1891, a British acting governor together with some Hausa troops (mostly slaves who fled the North to South and were recruited by the British army) went to Ijebu kingdom to make an agreement with the Awujale and convince him to open the blockaded route and allowing the free passage of goods into Lagos.

The Awujale refused at first but after much persuasion and pressure, he agreed in January 1892 on the terms of receiving £500 annually as compensation for the loss of custom revenue.

However, the agreement didn’t last long. A white missionary was denied access to pass through the kingdom and was sent back. The British government were provoked by the action of the Ijebus and authorized the use of force on the kingdom. Britain gathered troops from Gold Coast (Ghana), Sierra Leone, Ibadan, and Lagos (the Hausa troops nearly 150).

On the 12th of May, 1892, the captain and his men, including some carriers, sailed up the Lagos Lagoon and landed at Ekpe. When they got to Leckie, another set of carriers (about 186 in numbers) were recruited.

On the Ijebu side, 8000 men with old rifles would be fighting the British. The British underestimated the fighting prowess of the Ijebus thus giving them some hard times in penetrating into the interiors of their kingdom.

The first day, the British army razed down four villages with some of their men sustaining fatal injuries. The next day, they proceeded to Atumba and gunned down the Ijebus with machine guns. Britain lost 12 men, a Briton and 12 Africans. Every Ijebu villages they came across was burnt to the ground. The Ijebus were really losing the battle but determined to prevent the British army from crossing the Yemoyi river.

The goddess of the Yemoyi river was said to have taken human sacrifice in order to prevent the intruders (British) from crossing. The river was dug deeper to make it impenetrable by all means for the British army. However, the British army managed to cross the sacred Yemoyi river and unleashed havoc on the Ijebus. They proceeded to the village of Imagbon.

The Ijebus had lost over 900 men while Britain lost only 56 men and have more than 30 wounded. The Ijebus were still determined to fight on but shortly afterwards, the Awujale surrendered and admitted losing the war.

The only wars Yorubas can talk of is Yoruba killing Yoruba.. No wars of conquest and imperialism over other non Yoruba Kingdoms or territories..

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Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by AreaFada2: 8:33pm On Nov 28, 2020
gregyboy:
Yorubas can never leave benin alone

In the next life benin would not know anything like yoruba infact benin would be in asia while yoruba would still remain in the zoo with their fulani superheroes

They are just pest to our history

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Bros, you have heard of gold rush in many historical writings. Have you ever heard of "San San" rush? No, because it is gold that has value. cheesy cheesy grin
The reason everybody wants to claim Benin or Benin arts is because they are intrigued by it.

Even abroad, their kids learn of Benin history at school before age of 8. They will come home asking "dad, are we Benin?" Because Benin was the topic chosen in African history. grin
Imagine how that question makes haters para.

If Benin people had said we are same people, they would use it to imply Benin is part of them. Then we would all be great friends. The cross dresser digging papers from 100km underground and sleepless nights would be now be smiling like Christmas goat at Benin boys. By now computer screen have probably so much messed up her eyes that her lenses are thicker than Donald Trump's bomb proof Beast Limousine windows. grin

She brought out the picture of someone, if that guy is truly who she says he is, his head shows he has serious brain matter for intelligence. I know what I mean. I have compared people's achievements book-wise to cranial anatomy when they are "no more with us".

Let him compare that guy to Tinubu, OBJ, Aregbesola and tell us more about handsomeness. grin grin

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Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by gregyboy(m): 8:33pm On Nov 28, 2020
The ooni of ife who changed his title from sir adesuji to oba


Ooni the copy cat

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Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by gregyboy(m): 8:41pm On Nov 28, 2020
AreaFada2:

Bros, you have heard of gold rush in many historical writings. Have you ever heard of "San San" rush? No, because it is gold that has value. cheesy cheesy grin
The reason everybody wants to claim Benin or Benin arts is because they are intrigued by it.

Even abroad, their kids learn of Benin history at school before age of 8. They will come home asking "dad, are we Benin?" Because Benin was the topic chosen in African history. grin
Imagine how that question makes haters para.


If Benin people had said we are same people, they would use it to imply Benin is part of them. Then we would all be great friends. The cross dresser digging papers from 100km underground and sleepless nights would be now be smiling like Christmas goat at Benin boys. By now computer screen have probably so much messed up her eyes that her lenses are thicker than Donald Trump's bomb proof Beast Limousine windows. grin

She brought out the picture of someone, if that guy is truly who she says he is, his head shows he has serious brain matter for intelligence. I know what I mean. I have compared people's achievements book-wise to cranial anatomy when they are "no more with us".

Let him compare that guy to Tinubu, OBJ, Aregbesola and tell us more about handsomeness. grin grin


Bro you dont mean it at d bolded
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by AreaFada2: 8:48pm On Nov 28, 2020
gregyboy:



Bro you dont mean it
Of course.
If you go to BBC website called bitesize, you will see BBC animation of daily life in Benin Kingdom to teach British kids about African history.

Their 9ja parents that Nigeria tribal education system miseducated are left baffled. Because tribal education politics already in Western region and continuing with universal basic education WAZOBIA doctrine relegated Benin history. These parents who grew up with population supremacy ego just can't get why "oyinbo carry tiny Benin history for head". So they think oyinbo are not well informed about Africa to know that WAZOBIA are the important tribes. They think oyinbo just saw a few arts in museums and got confused. They don't realise their gargantuan tribalism induced ignorance.

But Europeans who saw it first hand 500 years ago know better.

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Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by AreaFada2: 8:49pm On Nov 28, 2020
gregyboy:
The ooni of ife who changed his title from sir adesuji to oba

Ooni the copy cat
Chai! It has tey that copy and paste started. Even before computer age. grin cheesy
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by gregyboy(m): 9:00pm On Nov 28, 2020
AreaFada2:

Of course.
If you go to BBC website called bitesize, you will see BBC animation of daily life in Benin Kingdom to teach British kids about African history.

Their 9ja parents that Nigeria tribal education system miseducated are left baffled. Because tribal education politics already in Western region and continuing with universal basic education WAZOBIA doctrine relegated Benin history. These parents who grew up with population supremacy ego just can't get why "oyinbo carry tiny Benin history for head". So they think oyinbo are not well informed about Africa to know that WAZOBIA are the important tribes. They think oyinbo just saw a few arts in museums and got confused. They don't realise their gargantuan tribalism induced ignorance.

But Europeans who saw it first hand 500 years ago know better.

They were hapoy thier language is gonna be used in brazil that same brazil presented ooni of ife in brazil queen idias head

As big as quora we just have two pictures for african art the benin artworks and Egyptian artworks

A Kenyan guy i spoke to when i posted the oba of benin pics on whatsapp amongst other yoruba monarch he singled handedly pointed out the oba picture and said he was familiar with his dress from bbn that very day i knew bbnaija was global
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by AreaFada2: 9:23pm On Nov 28, 2020
gregyboy:


They were hapoy thier language is gonna be used in brazil that same brazil presented ooni of ife in brazil queen idias head

As big as quora we just have two pictures for african art the benin artworks and Egyptian artworks

A Kenyan guy i spoke to when i posted the oba of benin pics on whatsapp amongst other yoruba monarch he singled handedly pointed out the oba picture and said he was familiar with his dress from bbn that very day i knew bbnaija was global
Lol@Queen Idia head.
If not for tribal politics it would be a good thing to present to Ooni.
Afterall Benin is his ancestral home. Nothing demeaning or inferior about it. I do not see Oba of Lagos or Olu of Warri or the many monarchs that descend from ancient Benin as inferior.
Windsor ruling house of UK are Germans. Both Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip are German blood. But they are not inferior to Germans.

I don't watch bbn or any lazy show, but Benin culture pops up everywhere.
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by gregyboy(m): 9:36pm On Nov 28, 2020
AreaFada2:

Lol@Queen Idia head.
If not for tribal politics it would be a good thing to present to Ooni.
Afterall Benin is his ancestral home. Nothing demeaning or inferior about it. I do not see Oba of Lagos or Olu of Warri or the many monarchs that descend from ancient Benin as inferior.
Windsor ruling house of UK are Germans. Both Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip are German blood. But they are not inferior to Germans.

I don't watch bbn or any lazy show, but Benin culture pops up everywhere.


No i disagree ooni is not a son of benin, i can say yes for the others not ooni and that political myth

Let myth be known as myth before it soils the full history
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by Sarah20A(f): 9:58pm On Nov 28, 2020
gregyboy:
Yorubas can never leave benin alone

In the next life benin would not know anything like yoruba infact benin would be in asia while yoruba would still remain in the zoo with their fulani superheroes

They are just pest to our history

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Valirex
grin grin is just as if Benin is the air they breathe so without Benin they would die grin

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Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by AreaFada2: 10:56pm On Nov 28, 2020
Sarah20A:
grin grin is just as if Benin is the air they breathe so without Benin they would die grin
Before nko? Na their air o.

Because in 9ja tribal supremacy and dominance is the point of Wazobia. And only little crude oil is found in Wazobia zone. So they need supremacy to corner oil money. Oil money is air, water and food that keeps 9ja alive.

Benin is ultimate battle front of supremacy for them.
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by Etrusen(m): 4:13am On Nov 29, 2020
another Afonja trying to add Benin to their history to make it sweet.
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by valirex: 1:30pm On Nov 29, 2020
Sarah20A:
grin grin is just as if Benin is the air they breathe so without Benin they would die grin

No doubt Benin is the air they breath grin
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by Nobody: 3:44pm On Nov 29, 2020
Reading
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by gregyboy(m): 4:16pm On Nov 29, 2020
Juliusmalema:
Reading


The title oba entered the yoruba lexicon through benin ventures into Eastern yoruba during its expansion, and soon diffused into all yorubas

There is a parable in owo, that says, just as the oba n' idu commands respect on earth olodumare commands respect in heaven
Despite interaction with eastern Yoruba they made a sizable contact with vast yoruba tribe too

Benins supplied the atilaries used in the yoruba civil war of late 1800

If we are to mention benin influence on vast yoruba land it will too numerous to mention


The yorubas always have the claim oromiyan came to establish the obaship stool on benin but when taken a deeper look into this history shows that it was a political staged myth of late 1800 after the benin invasion by the British, oba eweka11 sought monarchial help from the then ooni to help strengthening the political power of the edo people who was emerging from a devastating war that burnt down the city capital
You know the rest
The benin monarch accepted to be one of oduduwa son, in the hierarchy it was ooni first and oba of benin second, at these time alafin was still having superiority battle against the ooni, later when awolowo elevated the stool, the alafin subcumed and decided to stay at second displacing the oba to third position

So their argument on the ownership of the word oba has been defeated

It was mere politcs even the yoruba unification was not historical and ife was never thier ancestral town ife was a religious town to the yorubas


The title oba has bern in the yoruba lexicon as far
As 16century when benin expanded into their territory that would be 6centuries now
Despite the long age it has been in Yoruba lexicon it remains foreign to them

Imagine benin supplying yoruba warriors fighting atilaries, controlling their lands, giving them kings, controlling their market, just imagine how the title oba would sound to them


When the oba of benin was being taken to calabar by the British they had to cover his face to avoid uprise from both benin areas and non edo territorie

Note
Not until 1930 the ooni of ife used the word oba officially to adress is title letting go of the British sir in replacement of oba

He made a mistake of not foreseeing the end of the false political unification of benin people under yoruba umbrella he only saw the advantage of the name it would bring to his stool

He never proclaimed other yoruba monarchs to follow suit but automatically the other yoruba bought into adding oba to thier title

Note

Ogie is a title for duke only the oba of benin bears the title oba of benin

The question every tribe should ask yoruba is why do they adopt the word oba as a generic term for kingship when already is known to adress a popular monarch

I guess the answer can also be found in my writeup

Picture of one of the ooni holding an edo ceremonial sword wanting to mimic the benin stool, but i guess he later droped it
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by Nobody: 4:40pm On Nov 29, 2020
gregyboy:



The title oba entered the yoruba lexicon through benin ventures into Eastern yoruba during its expansion, and soon diffused into all yorubas

There is a parable in owo, that says, just as the oba n' idu commands respect on earth olodumare commands respect in heaven
Despite interaction with eastern Yoruba they made a sizable contact with vast yoruba tribe too

Benins supplied the atilaries used in the yoruba civil war of late 1800

If we are to mention benin influence on vast yoruba land it will too numerous to mention


The yorubas always have the claim oromiyan came to establish the obaship stool on benin but when taken a deeper look into this history shows that it was a political staged myth of late 1800 after the benin invasion by the British, oba eweka11 sought monarchial help from the then ooni to help strengthening the political power of the edo people who was emerging from a devastating war that burnt down the city capital
You know the rest
The benin monarch accepted to be one of oduduwa son, in the hierarchy it was ooni first and oba of benin second, at these time alafin was still having superiority battle against the ooni, later when awolowo elevated the stool, the alafin subcumed and decided to stay at second displacing the oba to third position

So their argument on the ownership of the word oba has been defeated

It was mere politcs even the yoruba unification was not historical and ife was never thier ancestral town ife was a religious town to the yorubas


The title oba has bern in the yoruba lexicon as far
As 16century when benin expanded into their territory that would be 6centuries now
Despite the long age it has been in Yoruba lexicon it remains foreign to them

Imagine benin supplying yoruba warriors fighting atilaries, controlling their lands, giving them kings, controlling their market, just imagine how the title oba would sound to them


When the oba of benin was being taken to calabar by the British they had to cover his face to avoid uprise from both benin areas and non edo territorie

Note
Not until 1930 the ooni of ife used the word oba officially to adress is title letting go of the British sir in replacement of oba

He made a mistake of not foreseeing the end of the false political unification of benin people under yoruba umbrella he only saw the advantage of the name it would bring to his stool

He never proclaimed other yoruba monarchs to follow suit but automatically the other yoruba bought into adding oba to thier title

Note

Ogie is a title for duke only the oba of benin bears the title oba of benin

The question every tribe should ask yoruba is why do they adopt the word oba as a generic term for kingship when already is known to adress a popular monarch

I guess the answer can also be found in my writeup

Picture of one of the ooni holding an edo ceremonial sword wanting to mimic the benin stool, but i guess he later droped it


Noted..

I just read the post as usual and moved on.

I don't interfere in brotherly squabbles.
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by Nobody: 5:10pm On Nov 29, 2020
Juliusmalema:



Noted..

I just read the post as usual and moved on.

I don't interfere in brotherly squabbles.
Deluded one, the point is we are not brothers with the yoruba.

(I know you did it on purpose to say "brotherly squabbles" in order to cause harm to the Edo whom you hate because your own people is interested in claiming parts of Benin empire)
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by Nobody: 5:21pm On Nov 29, 2020
davidmarker2:

Deluded one, the point is we are not brothers with the yoruba.

(I know you did it on purpose to say "brotherly squabbles" in order to cause harm to the Edo whom you hate because your own people is interested in claiming parts of Benin empire)


Ndigbo don't claim land or go on historical fabrications.

please tell us the part of Bini we are claiming

Pls do tell us.
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by Nobody: 5:23pm On Nov 29, 2020
Juliusmalema:



Ndigbo don't claim land or go on historical fabrications.

please tell us the part of Bini we are claiming

Pls do tell us.

I don't have time to entertain you, what brought you here in the first place ?
Longthroat as you are.
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by Nobody: 5:27pm On Nov 29, 2020
davidmarker2:


I don't have time to entertain you, what brought you here in the first place ?
Longthroat as you are.

So I have no right to read posts again or enter threads to read.

Well my apologies if you are angry I took sides or interferred in the brotherly historical imbroglio.
Re: Unforgettable Wars In Yoruba Land 2 by Nobody: 5:38pm On Nov 29, 2020
The best thing to do with trolls is to ignore them, they are only seeking attention. No more reply from me.

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