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Exclusively for you eviana3 by MuttleyLaff: 11:17pm On Nov 27, 2020
The floor is all yours eviana3
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by Nobody: 11:33pm On Nov 27, 2020
Thank you sir...wasn't wanting an entire personal thread...but ok.
My "Eviana3" moniker got banned (for 1 day) as I had just posted my latest installment on my "Before the Court of Annas and Caiaphas" thread... (which I didn't get to post)...for yet another unknown reason.
I am the "ban" queen again and suddenly....

I was not really wanting to use this moniker--as it was only created because of my primary one, Eviana, being banned a few weeks ago as well.

UPDATED AS OF 11/29/30-INSTEAD OF MY ORIGINAL DESIRE TO ASK QUESTIONS, THE DIRECTION HAS CHANGED. I WILL ONLY LEAVE THE BELOW STATEMENT.


Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8 (KJV)

1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.




Will sincerely be praying for you sir Muttleylaff.
May you experience Jesus in a most powerful and transformative way.
I am rooting for you...I really am.
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by MuttleyLaff: 3:45am On Dec 12, 2020
eviana2:
Thank you sir...wasn't wanting an entire personal thread...but ok.
My "Eviana3" moniker got banned (for 1 day) as I had just posted my latest installment on my "Before the Court of Annas and Caiaphas" thread... (which I didn't get to post)...for yet another unknown reason. I am the "ban" queen again and suddenly....

I was not really wanting to use this moniker--as it was only created because of my primary one, Eviana, being banned a few weeks ago as well.

UPDATED AS OF 11/29/30
- INSTEAD OF MY ORIGINAL DESIRE TO ASK QUESTIONS, THE DIRECTION HAS CHANGED. I WILL ONLY LEAVE THE BELOW STATEMENT.


Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8 (KJV)
1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.


Will sincerely be praying for you sir MuttleyLaff.
May you experience Jesus in a most powerful and transformative way.
I am rooting for you...I really am.
Don’t excuse yourself by hiding behind Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 and even Ecclesiastes 3:7 to be precise.

eviana eviana2 eviana3 Eve Eden Bible 101 lesson, don't believe everything you read, hear or are told, without questioning it, as discoveries, realities, epiphanies, are made by questioning. Simple battery of questions quickly brings out in to the open revealing hidden facts. I reiterate always question and don't, until you reach a question void, be satisfied.

The art and science of asking questions is the source of all knowledge, so dont be afraid to ask questions, even it they seem to look, as if, like completely stupid questions. A wise person can learn more from completely stupid questions than a fool can learn from a wise answer. I am not afraid to ask completely stupid questions and I keep this habit until tomorrow, lmso.

You owe yourself the responsibility to extract, to squeeze out, to draw out, get hold of et cetera information, lmso. You see, the immediate and unceasing question(s) about any particular subject matter, should always be: "What is the actual truth in this/these matter(s)?" but some believers who should be spiritually mature and ready to ask hard questions, aren't spiritually mature and so aren't ready to ask hard questions. I have believers doing the clandestine Nicodemus dip their toes in the water only to run a mile, the moment the toes barely touch the water. They withdraw back into their shell, just as you've done here too, lmso

Curiosity has its own reason for existing, as thinking begins when you ask really hard, difficult, puzzling and uncomfortable questions. I cant overemphasise not to stop questioning.

Find the courage to ask the questions you're afraid to hear the answer to. Don't be afraid of the answers, but be afraid of not asking the questions. Why, lmso? It is because its the only way you'll know which direction your truth lays.

I would rather have questions that can't be answered, than answers, that can't be questioned. Sometimes questions can be complicated but the answers are simple. Most difficult questions, usually have simple answers anyway.

It is better to discuss a belief, subject matter, doctrine, position et cetera with question(s) without settling it, than to settle a belief, subject matter, doctrine, position et cetera without question(s) discussing it. The longest held belief does not make it the truest, lmso. Deconstruct what you think is true about the world, around and about you. Make yourself a virgin again, lmso.

Closing, I'll say, all that is necessary, in fact, the only thing necessary, for the triumph of evil is for good men/women to unwisely decide that its time to keep silence.

Einstein believed it was important to never stop questioning, and quoted to have said:
"I have no special gift. I am only passionately curious.... Never lose a holy curiosity."
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by Dtruthspeaker: 5:24am On Dec 12, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

Einstein believed it was important to never stop questioning, and quoted to have said:
"I have no special gift. I am only passionately curious.... Never lose a holy curiosity."

Solo counters Einstein in that he says it is all a Waste and Vanity.

Thus, I agree with my Law Folks that there should be an End to Questioning that is Reasonable Practical Profitable End!
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by MuttleyLaff: 8:23am On Dec 12, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
Solo counters Einstein in that he says it is all a Waste and Vanity.
"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings
(i.e. It is the glory of God to hide things but the glory of kings to investigate them.
God is praised for being mysterious; rulers are praised for explaining mysteries)
"
- Proverbs 25:2

Questions are yet asked, yet a hypocrisy of an answer is already being initiated and fraudulently getting articulated, lmso.

I hope you aren't saying that questioning is "all a Waste and Vanity" sic, sha?

Dtruthspeaker:
Thus, I agree with my Law Folks that there should be an End to Questioning that is Reasonable Practical Profitable End!
There would have been no fall from grace to grass, if Eve had started with or asked reasonable and practical question(s) with achievable profitable end.

When after the fall from grace to grass, the LORD God (i.e Yahweh Elohim) called to the man (i.e. Adam) and said to him, “Where are you?” The question indicate the truth or existence of the fact that henceforth man can no longer be found or situated except in the place of the question

In the court rooms, our learned friends know that the important thing is not to stop questioning. You question unto a void, that is, you keep on finding question after another question to ask, until there is no further questions to ask and you have to settle with the courtroom phrase "I have no further questions"

I remember in my Kepner-Tregoe course days, being taught that, using a "question to the void" technique, you can dive deeper into the details
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by Dtruthspeaker: 12:09pm On Dec 12, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

I hope you aren't saying that questioning is "all a Waste and Vanity" sic, sha?

I am saying he who finds what he is looking for, questioneth no more, and he returneth to his place to Rest.

Else, all his days are filled with labours, yet like the grave, woman, death and hell, his thirst is not quenched and his hunger, not filled!

MuttleyLaff:

There would have been no fall from grace to grass, if Eve had started with or asked reasonable and practical question(s) with achievable profitable end.

grin She did ask and she "puffed" because she listened to the Wrong Person rather than go to take Clarification from her Direct Boss, Who would have told her-

(As Nigerian Ogas would say)

"Did I not give you sense?

Did I not already tell you, Do Not go near that fruit to eat?

Is he your Boss? Or is he the one that made the tree?

Idiot! Eat the fruit and see what I would do to you! Get out of my sight jo, YOU CAME TO ASK ME STUPID QUESTION!"


I think, because she loved the True-Lies, which is still a Lie, which Satan spewed, that was why she did not go for clarification for she knew what Oga Must Say and Oga will not let her acquire these things she has heard.

And in fact that rubbish from Satan made her to start looking at Oga with one kain eye ( like say Oga don do bad thing), she said in her heart "mtchew! Oga I no say you be Oga oh, but I don dey suspect you.

How you go dey keep all these good-good things from me, eh?

Abi, you no wan make we enjoy, eh?

Abi, na only you supposed to be God? E bad if we join you?"


MuttleyLaff:

In the court rooms, our learned friends know that the important thing is not to stop questioning. You question unto a void, that is, you keep on finding question after another question to ask, until there is no further questions to ask and you have to settle with the courtroom phrase "I have no further questions"

I remember in my Kepner-Tregoe course days, being taught that, using a "question to the void" technique, you can dive deeper into the details

grin ah, you've entered my world!

This is the secret, when Lawyers ask questions, there is already a good or bad Reason at play but the non-lawyer can not know.

And this is the secret of all questions in court which is to find and verify that which is True or Not True!

Once the Truth or Lie is Found or Established for that case, then it would end with the words "No further questions or that would be all m'lord!" grin

And the statement I said up there is a variation of The Law- "There Must Be An End to Litigation!"

The Law does not permit Arguments to Infinitum!
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by MuttleyLaff: 9:10pm On Dec 12, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
I am saying he who finds what he is looking for, questioneth no more, and he returneth to his place to Rest.

Else, all his days are filled with labours, yet like the grave, woman, death and hell, his thirst is not quenched and his hunger, not filled!
That is not what "Solo counters Einstein in that he says it is all a Waste and Vanity" sounded like.

Bear in mind and considering that Einstein believed it was important to never stop questioning, and he is quoted to have said:
"I have no special gift. I am only passionately curious.... Never lose a holy curiosity."

Dtruthspeaker:
grin She did ask ...
You are joking here, right, claiming that she did ask questions, huh?

Dtruthspeaker:
and she "puffed" because she listened to the Wrong Person rather than go to take Clarification from her Direct Boss, Who would have told her-
Pride of life. Its not unusual to see pride et cetera often get displayed in here

Dtruthspeaker:
(As Nigerian Ogas would say)

"Did I not give you sense?

Did I not already tell you, Do Not go near that fruit to eat?

Is he your Boss? Or is he the one that made the tree?

Idiot! Eat the fruit and see what I would do to you! Get out of my sight jo, YOU CAME TO ASK ME STUPID QUESTION!"
You must have a dim view of God, if that is how you picture God to react to honest, sincere and innocent questions

Dtruthspeaker:
I think, because she loved the True-Lies, which is still a Lie, which Satan spewed, that was why she did not go for clarification for she knew what Oga Must Say and Oga will not let her acquire these things she has heard.

And in fact that rubbish from Satan made her to start looking at Oga with one kain eye ( like say Oga don do bad thing), she said in her heart "mtchew! Oga I no say you be Oga oh, but I don dey suspect you.

How you go dey keep all these good-good things from me, eh?

Abi, you no wan make we enjoy, eh?

Abi, na only you supposed to be God? E bad if we join you?"
Thank you for reinforcing my point that simple questioning would have avail them of the grieve

Dtruthspeaker:
grin ah, you've entered my world!

This is the secret, when Lawyers ask questions, there is already a good or bad Reason at play but the non-lawyer can not know.

And this is the secret of all questions in court which is to find and verify that which is True or Not True!

Once the Truth or Lie is Found or Established for that case, then it would end with the words "No further questions or that would be all m'lord!" grin

And the statement I said up there is a variation of The Law- "There Must Be An End to Litigation!"
Litigation(s) comes to an end when justice has been served

Dtruthspeaker:
The Law does not permit Arguments to Infinitum!
Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons. The Law does not permit Arguments to Infinitum because truth always outruns and last longer than lies

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Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by Dtruthspeaker: 9:50pm On Dec 12, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
That is not what "Solo counters Einstein in that he says it is all a Waste and Vanit[/i]y" sounded like. Bear in mind that and considering that Einstein believed it was important to never stop questioning, and is quoted to have said:
"[i]I have no special gift. I am only passionately curious.... Never lose a holy curiosity.
"

Bros. Solo is The Professional and Authority of Vanities and Nullities. No one beats him in this. And if he says it's a Vanity, I guarantee you that it is.

Why?

Cos I had started on that same quest until I read Ecclesiastes, then I saw all my ends, having began to see, the beginnings of what he said

But if you do not believe him, you are very welcome to embark on the journey of questions

MuttleyLaff:

You are joking here, right, claiming that she did ask questions, huh?

I am not joking, I know how women think, your being a man would not let you see it, but let's ask Evinna, if my presentation isn't exactly or very close to how a woman processes information.

Secondly, look at that conversation, does it sound complete that is Satan said those things and she immediately obeyed?

Is that how easy it is to get a person to do something he or she, especially she, woman, to do something she has never heard of or thought of, Knowing women (as I presume you must have experience in that area) do you Imagine that she would not ask many questions before she decided to gets on board?

MuttleyLaff:

Pride of life. Its a not unusual to see it often get displayed in here

"Puff" as in disappearance into thin air as novels would say. Not as in swelling!

MuttleyLaff:

You must have a dim view of God, if that is how you picture God to react to honest, sincere and innocent questions

Nope, His Reaction would be Better Worse - I think Cool Anger might capture it, something close to when he Tried and Found them Culpable and thus, Sentenced them.

MuttleyLaff:

Thank you for reinforcing my point that simple questioning would have avail them of the grieve

I stand on the fact that she did ask questions only that she did not have a further discussion of the issue with God!

She Fatally Erred in failing to hear the other side as we say.

MuttleyLaff:

Litigation come to an end when justice has been served.

True, but that is just one part of the whole. The second is Litigation comes to an end when Arguments Cease.

Then the Judge or Jury has the case to decide before Judgment or "Just is" or Justice is entered.

Thirdly, in this evil world, Justice and Judgement are not always the same thing, even though God Made them the Same, but you can trust man to change everything God Made if and where he can.

So litigation ends in Judgment but not necessarily "Just Is"!

MuttleyLaff:

Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons. The Law does not permit Arguments to Infinitum because truth always outruns and last longer than lies

This is the Greater Answer, because God Made and Wrapped and Soaked Truth into DNA and Soul of the whole world and Lies are Always Like Sand on a Table, Shakeable and Unfounded and Always Uncemented!
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by MuttleyLaff: 11:50pm On Dec 12, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
Bros. Solo is The Professional and Authority of Vanities and Nullities. No one beats him in this. And if he says it's a Vanity, I guarantee you that it is.
"I, the LORD, invite you to come and talk it over.
(i.e. "Come on now, let's discuss this!" says the LORD)
Your sins are scarlet red, but they will be whiter than snow or wool.
"
- Isaiah 1:18

You are misguided, if you think Solo is or was knocking questioning, as Solo simply was saying all things without the exclusivity or inclusion of "Thy will be done" is vanity.

Is it vanity to reason together with God, huh?

Dtruthspeaker:
Why?
"1Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked, or set foot on the path of sinners, or sit in the seat of mockers.
2But his delight is in the Law of the LORD, and on His law he meditates day and night.
"
- Psalm 1:1-2

How do you benefit from meditating on the word of God, the laws, His precepts and consider His ways without profitable questioning, huh?

Dtruthspeaker:
Cos I had started on that same quest until I read Ecclesiastes, then I saw all my ends, having began to see, the beginnings of what he said

But if you do not believe him, you are very welcome to embark on the journey of questions
Solo's beginning is journaled with the 3Ws, namely wisdom, wealth and women, interestingly enough his end was still journaled with the same 3Ws, but in changed positional orders of women, wealth and wisdom. Wisdom, his first love, relegated to back. Of course, he came to realise that, when God is not included, then all things are vanities and nullities.

Ecclesiastes, simply is a confession of the excesses, the vanity, the apostasy of Solo's past life

Dtruthspeaker:
I am not joking, I know how women think, your being a man would not let you see it, but let's ask Evinna, if my presentation isn't exactly or very close to how a woman processes information.

Secondly, look at that conversation, does it sound complete that is Satan said those things and she immediately obeyed?

Is that how easy it is to get a person to do something he or she, especially she, woman, to do something she has never heard of or thought of, Knowing women (as I presume you must have experience in that area) do you Imagine that she would not ask many questions before she decided to gets on board?
I am quite sure that if Eve had as much as asked half a question, then it would have been duly noted and recorded, if just only for posterity sake.

Dtruthspeaker:
"Puff" as in disappearance into thin air as novels would say. Not as in swelling!
Well scripture, did say, it was pride of life aka puffed up. I have read that pride, is the deadliest of all sin. That it is the root of all evil, and the beginning of sin. This sin began before committing the sin of stealing and/or disobedience

Dtruthspeaker:
Nope, His Reaction would be Better Worse - I think Cool Anger might capture it, something close to when he Tried and Found them Culpable.
I see justice tendered with mercy. No cool anger, no holy anger nor anything worse

Dtruthspeaker:
I stand on the fact that she did ask questions only that she did not have a further discussion of the issue with God!
With what legs are you standing on the fact with.

Dtruthspeaker:
True, but that is just one part of the whole. The second is Litigation comes to an end when Arguments Cease.
You cant hide from the fact that arguments don't cease, when justice hasn't been served.

Dtruthspeaker:
Thirdly, in this evil world, Justice and Judgement are not always the same thing, even though God Made them the Same, but you can trust man to change everything God Made if and where he can.
"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment"
- Hebrews 9:27

Judgment is a verdict reached after we all give account (i.e. Hebrews 9:27) whereas, justice, simply means, enjoying the quality of being fair and reasonable to others, just as one would expect others to fair and reasonable to one, hence the reason why I earlier typed that: "litigation comes to an end when justice has been served"

Dtruthspeaker:
So litigation ends in Judgment but not necessarily "Just Is"!
With Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ, as your Advocate, litigation ends in judgment and necessarily is "Just Is"!

Dtruthspeaker:
This is the Greater Answer is because God Made and Wrapped and Soaked Truth into DNA and Soul of the whole world and Lies are Always Like Sand on a Table, Shakeable and Unfounded and Always Uncemented!
The proof of the pudding is in the testing, is in the eating, lmso.
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by Dtruthspeaker: 6:49am On Dec 13, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
"I, the LORD, invite you to come and talk it over.
(i.e. "Come on now, let's discuss this!" says the LORD)
Your sins are scarlet red, but they will be whiter than snow or wool.
"
- Isaiah 1:18

You are misguided, if you think Solo is or was knocking questioning, as Solo simply was saying all things without the exclusivity or inclusion of "Thy will be done" is vanity.

Is it vanity to reason together with God, huh

You have Changed Position here, the Argument is not about "Reasoning or Questioning with God" but "About Continuous Eternal Questioning!" which Solo and I say is a Vanity and an Absolute Waste of Soul!

MuttleyLaff:

"1Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked, or set foot on the path of sinners, or sit in the seat of mockers.
2But his delight is in the Law of the LORD, and on His law he meditates day and night.
"
- Psalm 1:1-2

How do you benefit from meditating on the word of God, the laws, His precepts and consider His ways without profitable questioning, huh?

Again, Proof of Change of Post, for our dispute is on Continous Questioning till eternity which I and Solo, oppose.

Also I never said do not Question, I said to Question Infinitely is an Absolute Waste!

MuttleyLaff:

I am quite sure that if Eve had as much as asked half a question, then it would have been duly noted and recorded, if just only for posterity sake.

grin That's why I love the KjV, it is Written in the Spirit, so that by your spirit, you can participate in the events there and See.

Remember that statement "if I have to tell you then it's useless?" That is the Law of KjV!

MuttleyLaff:

Well scripture, did say, it was pride of life aka puffed up. I have read that pride, is the deadliest of all sin. That it is the root of all evil, and the beginning of sin. This sin began before committing the sin of stealing and/or disobedience

cheesy Yes, she broke many many Laws even before she ate the Fruit, which is why I once said that she Racked Up Many Charges or Counts of Offences or Indictments as D.A in America would say. Great Job, for finding that one. grin Great Job!

MuttleyLaff:

I see justice tendered with mercy. No cool anger, no holy anger nor anything worse

I say Cool Anger because we see His Anger even though He is Conducting Himself with Reasonability and Even Speech which men think and like to think that therefore He is Not Angry, which is because they are wrongfully comparing Him to man, Who Always Shouts and uses hurtful words when Angry. (Here, I know this very well for I saw that many never knew I was very Angry with them because I did not raise my voice)

Forgetting and Refusing to see that God is Very Very Far from Being like man.

It is even man who needs to be like God and Not for God to be like man.

MuttleyLaff:

You cant hide from the fact that arguments don't cease, when justice hasn't been served.

No, I do not, I rather confirm it. God indeed made the end of Disputes "Just is" and Judgment but Unright men made their own laws and courts and dispensed "Not Just is" sad

MuttleyLaff:

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment"
- Hebrews 9:27

Judgment is a verdict reached after we all give account (i.e. Hebrews 9:27) whereas, justice, simply means, enjoying the quality of being fair and reasonable to others, just as one would expect others to fair and reasonable to one, hence the reason why I earlier typed that: "litigation comes to an end when justice has been served"

I would like to say you are wrong but I will trim and improve it.

Hebrews 9:27 is about Judgement of Judgments for The Lord has given us many many Judgments even before the Judgment of Judgments as Proven and Exhibited in Psalms and Proverbs and Ecclesiastes. Most Particularly Evident in Psalms 119 Verse 30

"I have chosen the way of Truth: thy Judgements have I laid before me."

Further I have shown you and explained that justice is or means "Just is"!


MuttleyLaff:

With Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ, as your Advocate, litigation ends in judgment and necessarily is "Just Is"!

That popular definition of justice IS A FRAUD and A Lie, given by those Unright people I spoke about up there!

It is not the True Meaning of Justice. It is rather A Wilfully and Cunning Placement, Displacement and Replacement of God's Pronouncement of the Duty of Men, Obtained From The Law of "the Objective of God's Law, called Natural Law, which Clearly States

"The Tenets of The Law is To Live Honestly, To Harm No One and To Give To Each His Due! - AND RIGHT THERE IS THE TRUE PLACE OF "JUST IS"/JUSTICE.
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by Dtruthspeaker: 9:06am On Dec 13, 2020
MuttleyLaff:


Well scripture, did say, it was pride of life aka puffed up. I have read that pride, is the deadliest of all sin. That it is the root of all evil, and the beginning of sin. This sin began before committing the sin of stealing and/or disobedience

In further consideration of the case, it came to me that "Count" in Law refers to the Number of Offences or Wrongs a Person has Committed or Done in Any Act or Action under Consideration or Enquiry.

Thus, Eve's Charge or indictment would Read as Follows

Count 1
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Eat the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, thereby Committing An Offence Contrary To Commandment No.1 of The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High!


Count 2
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Counseled and Procured thy husband Mr Adam to Eat the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, thereby Causing him to Commit An Offence Contrary To Commandment No.1 of The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High!

Count 3
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Give to thy husband, Mr Adam, the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, to eat of it, thereby Causing him to Commit An Offence Contrary To Commandment No. 1 of The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by MuttleyLaff: 3:31pm On Dec 13, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
You have Changed Position here, the Argument is not about "Reasoning or Questioning with God" but "About Continuous Eternal Questioning!" which Solo and I say is a Vanity and an Absolute Waste of Soul!
My position from the onset has always been to question and question to a point of void. Of course, the point of a void put and end to "Continuous Eternal Questioning" sic.

Now the thing about Solo, is that after reflection and taking stock of his life he got the epiphany that leaving God out of the equation, relegating God to the back seat, replacing God with self in the driving seat, is nothing other than futility, vanity, a right absolute wasting of soul and squandering away of the God given gift potentials placed in every human being

Solo's beginning, as I earlier shared started with; wisdom, wealth and women (i.e. 1 Kings 3:12-13), then 1800 turned into women, wealth and wisdom (i.e. 2 Chronicles 9:22)

We are free to choose not to question, but we are not free from the consequence(s) of our choice(s) not to question and/or choice of not asking questions

Dtruthspeaker:
Again, Proof of Change of Post, for our dispute is on Continous Questioning till eternity which I and Solo, oppose.
My posit was, and always had been, question to a void. It was you railroading with a "Solo counters Einstein in that he says it is all a Waste and Vanity" remark and gumming it with an unconnecting "Continous Questioning till eternity" comment.

Dtruthspeaker:
Also I never said do not Question, I said to Question Infinitely is an Absolute Waste!
Why would you in the first place, say: "Question Infinitely is an Absolute Waste!" when I've already unequivocally said "question to a void" hmm?

"Question to a void" leaves, no room to question infinitely. "Question to a void," meaning, pursue and/or exhaust all reasonable lines of inquiry, cant possibly be an "an Absolute Waste!"

You were straw mining, when you decided to depart from my established course with your "Question Infinitely is an Absolute Waste!"

Let's be clear and sing from the same hymn book over that I didnt advocate for questioning infinitely. OK?

Dtruthspeaker:
grin That's why I love the KjV, it is Written in the Spirit, so that by your spirit, you can participate in the events there and See.
For many places have KJV corrupted the word of God, invented words, have said what the bible has not said nor meant.

KJV, unlike all scripture, isn't a translation of the original text that is divinely inspired. One defo need the Spirit of Truth, to navigate round the corruption minefield of KJV.

Dtruthspeaker:
Remember that statement "if I have to tell you then it's useless?" That is the Law of KjV!
Why am I not surprised, that, it isnt the law of God, but it is the law of KJV, lmso (i.e. traditions and/or doctrines of men)

Dtruthspeaker:
cheesy Yes, she broke many many Laws even before she ate the Fruit, which is why I once said that she Racked Up Many Charges or Counts of Offences or Indictments as D.A in America would say. Great Job, for finding that one. grin Great Job!
I have a very Good Teacher. The credit and all the glory goes to Him. I learn at the feet of the Best.

Dtruthspeaker:
I say Cool Anger because we see His Anger even though He is Conducting Himself with Reasonability and Even Speech which men think and like to think that therefore He is Not Angry, which is because they are wrongfully comparing Him to man, Who Always Shouts and uses hurtful words when Angry. (Here, I know this very well for I saw that many never knew I was very Angry with them because I did not raise my voice)
Given that, anger is not any of the fruit of the Spirit, please, list the first three times, the bible records that, God got angry and give the reasons why He got angry on them three occasions.

Dtruthspeaker:
Forgetting and Refusing to see that God is Very Very Far from Being like man.

It is even man who needs to be like God and Not for God to be like man.
"26Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness,
to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock,
and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it.
27So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him;
male and female He created them
"
- Genesis 1:26-27

I like red, as the colour, exudes an air of love, romance, boldness, courage, danger etcetera to me. We, human beings, are physical image representation of different attributes of God. God is incorporeal, but created human beings, to physically project different aspect, different visual imagery and likeness of the Godhead.

Image is instant, while likeness is continuum. The latter, is evident in Genesis 1:27, as seen above. Notice that the mention of "likeness" is left unsaid, in Genesis 1:27. Why? Its because its continuum.

Correctamundo. The former is the plan. Continuum, is for man, its the vehicle to drive, for man who needs to get to the "to be like God" destination, lmso.

Dtruthspeaker:
No, I do not, I rather confirm it. God indeed made the end of Disputes "Just is" and Judgment but Unright men made their own laws and courts and dispensed "Not Just is" sad
"Ko da ise Oluwa duro" loosely translated means "It doesnt disrupts the deadline for God's work"

Dtruthspeaker:
I would like to say you are wrong but I will trim and improve it.

Hebrews 9:27 is about Judgement of Judgments for The Lord has given us many many Judgments even before the Judgment of Judgments as Proven and Exhibited in Psalms and Proverbs and Ecclesiastes. Most Particularly Evident in Psalms 119 Verse 30

"I have chosen the way of Truth: thy Judgements have I laid before me."

Further I have shown you and explained that justice is or means "Just is"!
Really? Have you now? OK then, why not flex your muscles, by giving biblical explanations of:
1/ What justice is
2/ What justice means, in the context of being one of more important aspects of the law.
3/ Was justice served in the Garden of Eden for stealing the fruit off the TKGE?

Dtruthspeaker:
That popular definition of justice IS A FRAUD and A Lie, given by those Unright people I spoke about up there!

It is not the True Meaning of Justice. It is rather A Wilfully and Cunning Placement, Displacement and Replacement of God's Pronouncement of the Duty of Men, Obtained From The Law of "the Objective of God's Law, called Natural Law, which Clearly States

"The Tenets of The Law is To Live Honestly, To Harm No One and To Give To Each His Due! - AND RIGHT THERE IS THE TRUE PLACE OF "JUST IS"/JUSTICE.
"... the weightier matters of the law:
justice and mercy and faithfulness.
"
- Matthew 23:23b

"God never twists justice;
He never fails to do what is right
"
- Job 8:3

"Righteousness and justice are the foundation of Your throne;
steadfast love and faithfulness go before You.
"
- Psalm 89:14

The devil is a liar.
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by MuttleyLaff: 3:37pm On Dec 13, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
In further consideration of the case, it came to me that "Count" in Law refers to the Number of Offences or Wrongs a Person has Committed or Done in Any Act or Action under Consideration or Enquiry.

Thus, Eve's Charge or indictment would Read as Follows
Count 1
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Eat the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, thereby Committing An Offence Contrary To Commandment No.1 of The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High!

Count 2
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Counseled and Procured thy husband Mr Adam to Eat the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, thereby Causing him to Commit An Offence Contrary To Commandment No.1 of The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High!

Count 3
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Give to thy husband, Mr Adam, the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, to eat of it, thereby Causing him to Commit An Offence Contrary To Commandment No. 1 of The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High
Without reading out other charges, as these three, are strong enough to prosecute, with, Eve's only defence, being, her self admission, self-incrimination and/or self confession statement:
"The serpent tricked me and I ate some of that fruit"
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by eviana3(f): 9:47pm On Dec 14, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Don’t excuse yourself by hiding behind Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 and even Ecclesiastes 3:7 to be precise.

e.viana eviana2 e.viana3 Eve Eden Bible 101 lesson, don't believe everything you read, hear or are told, without questioning it, as discoveries, realities, epiphanies, are made by questioning. Simple battery of questions quickly brings out in to the open revealing hidden facts. I reiterate always question and don't, until you reach a question void, be satisfied.

The art and science of asking questions is the source of all knowledge, so dont be afraid to ask questions, even it they seem to look, as if, like completely stupid questions. A wise person can learn more from completely stupid questions than a fool can learn from a wise answer. I am not afraid to ask completely stupid questions and I keep this habit until tomorrow, lmso.

You owe yourself the responsibility to extract, to squeeze out, to draw out, get hold of et cetera information, lmso. You see, the immediate and unceasing question(s) about any particular subject matter, should always be: "What is the actual truth in this/these matter(s)?" but some believers who should be spiritually mature and ready to ask hard questions, aren't spiritually mature and so aren't ready to ask hard questions. I have believers doing the clandestine Nicodemus dip their toes in the water only to run a mile, the moment the toes barely touch the water. They withdraw back into their shell, just as you've done here too, lmso

Curiosity has its own reason for existing, as thinking begins when you ask really hard, difficult, puzzling and uncomfortable questions. I cant overemphasise not to stop questioning.

Find the courage to ask the questions you're afraid to hear the answer to. Don't be afraid of the answers, but be afraid of not asking the questions. Why, lmso? It is because its the only way you'll know which direction your truth lays.

I would rather have questions that can't be answered, than answers, that can't be questioned. Sometimes questions can be complicated but the answers are simple. Most difficult questions, usually have simple answers anyway.

It is better to discuss a belief, subject matter, doctrine, position et cetera with question(s) without settling it, than to settle a belief, subject matter, doctrine, position et cetera without question(s) discussing it. The longest held belief does not make it the truest, lmso. Deconstruct what you think is true about the world, around and about you. Make yourself a virgin again, lmso.

Closing, I'll say, all that is necessary, in fact, the only thing necessary, for the triumph of evil is for good men/women to unwisely decide that its time to keep silence.

Einstein believed it was important to never stop questioning, and quoted to have said:
"I have no special gift. I am only passionately curious.... Never lose a holy curiosity."



Was just thinking.....
There are (3) things that cannot be told to the majority of Nigerian men by a woman:

1.) That his tribe is not the most amazing
2.) That he is IMPERFECT (physically, spiritually, emotionally, mentally, and relationally)
3.) That he does NOT know everything.

I digress. Anyhow, I needed to be stopped in my tracks via the Holy Spirit...impressing me to not ask those several questions...not to even peek down the street.
My thought processes were centered around what would be the end goal of the discussion. Some questions that I wanted to ask really already have been answered...in a subtle way.
But I could see where there could have been confusion and a myriad of emotions that I did not want to go through.
Nigerians believe in endless debates....
I thought to myself, "I just don't feel like
Also I had to think about the impressionable curious minds and how it would affect them.
So my processed thoughts --which led to me canceling the questions-- was not cowardice, rather Godly wisdom and boy do I need and crave it.
This was one of those times where I obeyed Him (the Holy Spirit)...and I'm so glad I did.
I really meant the bolded part in Ecclesiastes.
My closing words earlier on this thread still stand though...

So with all of that being said, I "have no further questions your honor"...Sir Muttley.


P.S. I deactivated my "eviana2" moniker..just now because I never wanted 3 monikers simultaneously.
I only wanted to use (Eviana) solely.
I think you know that I can converse with a nail if it could speak.
My love of knowledge, questions and civil discussion got me a lovely "ban" back in early November..so ...well....

Anyhow, I appreciate your gesture of this thread...sir.
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by MuttleyLaff: 5:54am On Dec 16, 2020
eviana3:
Was just thinking.....
There are (3) things that cannot be told to the majority of Nigerian men by a woman:

1.) That his tribe is not the most amazing
2.) That he is IMPERFECT (physically, spiritually, emotionally, mentally, and relationally)
3.) That he does NOT know everything.
I have no idea why you think it necessary to wander down into this culs-de-sac. Smh sigh.

eviana3:
I digress. Anyhow, I needed to be stopped in my tracks via the Holy Spirit...impressing me to not ask those several questions...not to even peek down the street.
This is because you were about going on a fruitless journey of trying to sling and throw mud that wont stick

eviana3:
My thought processes were centered around what would be the end goal of the discussion.
Your thought processes are centred around your jaundiced and preconceived ideas

eviana3:
Some questions that I wanted to ask really already have been answered...in a subtle way.
But I could see where there could have been confusion and a myriad of emotions that I did not want to go through.
In a typical and not unsurprising prideful way, you have already formed opinions about things, way before you've had any enough information

eviana3:
Nigerians believe in endless debates....
Will you quit the grating "Nigerians believe in endless debates" bias already.

eviana3:
I thought to myself, "I just don't feel like
Also I had to think about the impressionable curious minds and how it would affect them.
You always could have done it in camera with me., just as I have had numerous in camera with others and none of the "impressionable curious minds" have been any the wiser. You could have done the clandestine à la carte Nicodemus so that it'll be between only the three of us.

eviana3:
So my processed thoughts --which led to me canceling the questions-- was not cowardice,
Did you anywhere read attributing your dodging the question and deliberately talking about different things, topic et cetera other than the original question(s) you said you wanted to ask, as cowardice getting the better of you, hmm?

eviana3:
... rather Godly wisdom and boy do I need and crave it.
This was one of those times where I obeyed Him (the Holy Spirit)...and I'm so glad I did.
I really meant the bolded part in Ecclesiastes.
My closing words earlier on this thread still stand though...


eviana3:
So with all of that being said, I "have no further questions your honor"...Sir Muttley.
My fair lady, if you may, you can agonisingly suit yourself.

eviana3:
P.S. I deactivated my "eviana2" moniker..just now because I never wanted 3 monikers simultaneously.
I only wanted to use (Eviana) solely.
I think you know that I can converse with a nail if it could speak.
Have you tried conversing with a nail, to know it couldn't speak.?
What I have found out is that you are a teaser. What I know about you Eviana, is that, you are unjustifiably ambivalent

eviana3:
My love of knowledge, questions and civil discussion got me a lovely "ban" back in early November..so ...well....

Anyhow, I appreciate your gesture of this thread...sir.
You get lovely bans because you're a habitual alarmist. You get lovely bans because you now and then bark up the wrong tree(s). You get lovely bans because you inconsiderately spam the forum with long post that an ordinary sign posting URL link will be as good a job done, asides sparing and saving space on the Nairaland servers' hard disk without you unnecessarily wasting server hard disks space with those long spam posts you kept churning out.
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by Eviana(f): 12:36am On Dec 17, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
I have no idea why you think it necessary to wander down into this culs-de-sac. Smh sigh.

This is because you were about going on a fruitless journey of trying to sling and throw mud that wont stick

Your thought processes are centred around your jaundiced and preconceived ideas

In a typical and not unsurprising prideful way, you have already formed opinions about things, way before you've had any enough information

Will you quit the grating "Nigerians believe in endless debates" bias already.

You always could have done it in camera with me., just as I have had numerous in camera with others and none of the "impressionable curious minds" have been any the wiser. You could have done the clandestine à la carte Nicodemus so that it'll be between only the three of us.

Did you anywhere read attributing your dodging the question and deliberately talking about different things, topic et cetera other than the original question(s) you said you wanted to ask, as cowardice getting the better of you, hmm?



My fair lady, if you may, you can agonisingly suit yourself.

Have you tried conversing with a nail, to know it couldn't speak.?
What I have found out is that you are a teaser. What I know about you E.viana, is that, you are unjustifiably ambivalent

You get lovely bans because you're a habitual alarmist. You get lovely bans because you now and then bark up the wrong tree(s). You get lovely bans because you inconsiderately spam the forum with long post that an ordinary sign posting URL link will be as good a job done, asides sparing and saving space on the Nairaland servers' hard disk without you unnecessarily wasting server hard disks space with those long spam posts you kept churning out.


Well last I knew, a "nail" is an inanimate object incapable of making any type of communicable sounds, looks or gestures.

I got a ban on this (my original moniker) because of a biblical stance that I took. So what it told me was to basically "shut up" and accept what was said regardless.
So clearly, I do not have "freedom of speech or religious belief"...which is something I've not experienced before.

As far as "spamming", I have never ever been involved in or been an acessory to any illegal activity in my years of life on planet earth....contrary to how I've been portrayed on this forum for my 4 year stay.

I only posted those writings for (2) reasons:
1). Data there in Nigeria is expensive and many cannot afford it, so I chose to write out what I felt was powerful info for some people here...to read while they browsed through Nairaland.
2). Many people here, including myself, are concerned about clicking on infected links...which is why I wrote down the info on some of my threads for people to go and read more.
I had "0" sinister intentions for posting about freedom in Christ Jesus...through my threads.
I am not an alarmist...but I can't control folks' opinions of me.
I am a person who has experienced the joys and peace of Jesus and who wants others to experience the same.
My apologies to the owner for using up disk space by posting too long threads.
I think I had a total of "5" threads where I quoted from a book...never was banned for that until a few weeks ago.
Sir, I think people get too comfortable in conflict.. chaos....division....deceit...rejoicing in torturing innocent folks...endless debates..mockery...
Do you get what I mean?
Me...well I'm gonna forever pursue peace now...
You take care..
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by MuttleyLaff: 6:58am On Dec 19, 2020
Eviana:
Well last I knew, a "nail" is an inanimate object incapable of making any type of communicable sounds, looks or gestures.
You're naive if you dont know that as a child/daughter/son/woman/man of God, you are capable of communicating with anything. Smh sigh

Eviana:
I got a ban on this (my original moniker) because of a biblical stance that I took. So what it told me was to basically "shut up" and accept what was said regardless.
So clearly, I do not have "freedom of speech or religious belief"...which is something I've not experienced before.
Go study Matthew 10:16

Eviana:
As far as "spamming", I have never ever been involved in or been an acessory to any illegal activity in my years of life on planet earth....contrary to how I've been portrayed on this forum for my 4 year stay.
Dont worry, you will understand when you too become a person in charge of running, maintaining and financing a free to users internet forum and/or online discussion site similar to Nairaland

Eviana:
I only posted those writings for (2) reasons:
1). Data there in Nigeria is expensive and many cannot afford it, so I chose to write out what I felt was powerful info for some people here...to read while they browsed through Nairaland.
2). Many people here, including myself, are concerned about clicking on infected links...which is why I wrote down the info on some of my threads for people to go and read more.
You simply could have vouched and guaranteed the links are safe for anyone interested to click on.

Eviana:
I had "0" sinister intentions for posting about freedom in Christ Jesus...through my threads.
I know you had "0" sinister intentions but the road to hell is paved with good intentions

Eviana:
I am not an alarmist...but I can't control folks' opinions of me.
You are an alarmist, no one is forming an opinion about. It is because of your exaggeration fruit(s) and causing others needless worry and panic, that you are an alarmist

Eviana:
I am a person who has experienced the joys and peace of Jesus and who wants others to experience the same.
Of course, the joy of the LORD is our strength, but unfortunately the same Bible says there is no peace for the wicked

Eviana:
My apologies to the owner for using up disk space by posting too long threads.
I think I had a total of "5" threads where I quoted from a book...never was banned for that until a few weeks ago.
The chickens came home to roost, when your sin caught up with you a few weeks ago.

Eviana:
Sir, I think people get too comfortable in conflict.. chaos....division....deceit...rejoicing in torturing innocent folks...endless debates..mockery...
I am not holding brief for people that get too comfortable in conflict.. chaos....division....deceit...rejoicing in torturing innocent folks...endless debates..mockery...

Eviana:
Do you get what I mean?
I get that you are none the wiser

Eviana:
Me...well I'm gonna forever pursue peace now...
Letting the Spirit control your mind, leads to life and peace

Eviana:
You take care..
You take care of your ignorances, prejudices, barking up the wrong tree, et cetera
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by Nobody: 2:11pm On Dec 21, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
.

Hello Mr MuttleyLaff. Good afternoon sir. Please I sent you a mail some days ago, kindly check it sir. Thanks
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by Nobody: 6:06pm On Dec 31, 2020
@MuttleyLaff

I do not understand the christianity practised here. Why do you want to prove yourself right here? I do not expect you to go this far. At times, you need to allow others express themselves and tolerate them. I follow the lady's thread and I am forced to open an account cos I saw she has decided to hold her peace. And she demonstrated maturity better than you. Atheists hardly argue among themselves. Even muslims dont. Why is it that Christians do this? And the strength you use in debating marvels me. I expect you to ask her why she raises alarm at times. For her to have decided to converse with you means a lot. Perhaps she trusts you somehow, but you blew up the chance of ministering to her by attacking her. Christians minister to one another also. I was looking forward to a thread I can learn from, but I am disappointed the way you handled it. When she wrote she held back her questions, I expected you to use wisdom to talk to her. But what you did was wrong. Totally wrong. She is not one of these Pentecostal churches making noises around. There are truths in her messages. Though, she may not know all, but she is knows what she is preaching. I am not happy with you at all.

I wanted to come here and attack you. I wanted to blast you. But at the last moment, I just felt I am not better if I do that. Bro, you need to apologize to her. Apologizing to her doesn't make you a less person. It doesn't make you wrong too. It is the way forward. You can blast each other privately, but when posting messages publicly, let us represent Christ. Look at how she just walked away quietly. She is more of Christ with her action. And really, I am forced to want to listen to her more than you. Action speaks louder than words.

You guys can learn from each other. I am not here to condemn you but show you that you took it took far. Now that you have won the debate which she didnt even participate because she listened to the Holy Spirit not to speak further, what next? Are you happy? And where is your gold medal for winning the debate? Guy, apologize and learn from each other. Are you saying you haven't learn anything from her posts?
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by MuttleyLaff: 6:10pm On Dec 31, 2020
PeaceLoveJoy:
@MuttleyLaff
I do not understand the christianity practised here. Why do you want to prove yourself right here? I do not expect you to go this far. At times, you need to allow others express themselves and tolerate them. I follow the lady's thread and I am forced to open an account cos I saw she has decided to hold her peace. And she demonstrated maturity better than you. Atheists hardly argue among themselves. Even muslims dont. Why is it that Christians do this? And the strength you use in debating marvels me. I expect you to ask her why she raises alarm at times. For her to have decided to converse with you means a lot. Perhaps she trusts you somehow, but you blew up the chance of ministering to her by attacking her. Christians minister to one another also. I was looking forward to a thread I can learn from, but I am disappointed the way you handled it. When she wrote she held back her questions, I expected you to use wisdom to talk to her. But what you did was wrong. Totally wrong. She is not one of these Pentecostal churches making noises around. There are truths in her messages. Though, she may not know all, but she is knows what she is preaching. I am not happy with you at all.

I wanted to come here and attack you. I wanted to blast you. But at the last moment, I just felt I am not better if I do that. Bro, you need to apologize to her. Apologizing to her doesn't make you a less person. It doesn't make you wrong too. It is the way forward. You can blast each other privately, but when posting messages publicly, let us represent Christ. Look at how she just walked away quietly. She is more of Christ with her action. And really, I am forced to want to listen to her more than you. Action speaks louder than words.

You guys can learn from each other. I am not here to condemn you but show you that you took it took far. Now that you have won the debate which she didnt even participate because she listened to the Holy Spirit not to speak further, what next? Are you happy? And where is your gold medal for winning the debate? Guy, apologize and learn from each other. Are you saying you haven't learn anything from her posts?

I love you too back PeaceLoveJoy.
Smh sigh.
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by Nobody: 6:16pm On Dec 31, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

I love you too back PeaceLoveJoy.
Smh sigh.
Now, I understand you. Hmmmm! Dusting you away. What a pity?

Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by MuttleyLaff: 6:32pm On Dec 31, 2020
PeaceLoveJoy:
Now, I understand you. Hmmmm! Dusting you away. What a pity?
You don't understand jackshit and that is why I held my peace at your rant and raving up there. You haven't a foggiest idea and so the reason why I suffered you gladly with a soft landing. I dont owe you any explanation, not especially when my conscience with God is clear. I am sure you aren't aware that I went out of my way to specially open up this thread for Eviana, aka eviana2, aka eviana3 and give her the opportunity to take off what was on her chest, but little did I know that she is well into playing an over developed psychology mind, teasing and withdrawal games.

PeaceLoveJoy I sincerely, truthfully and honestly love you as a brother/sister, so please quit your unjust judging. Biko. I beg una. You seriously have no idea and dont know anything about what you've latched on to.
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by MuttleyLaff: 7:58pm On Dec 31, 2020
Sorry PeaceLoveJoy for your post above at 7:44pm being censored. What did you type? I hope its not you picking up mud, trying to sling more mud at me, lmso.
Re: Exclusively for you eviana3 by eviana3(f): 1:19pm On Feb 01
PeaceLoveJoy:
@MuttleyLaff

I do not understand the christianity practised here. Why do you want to prove yourself right here? I do not expect you to go this far. At times, you need to allow others express themselves and tolerate them. I follow the lady's thread and I am forced to open an account cos I saw she has decided to hold her peace. And she demonstrated maturity better than you. Atheists hardly argue among themselves. Even muslims dont. Why is it that Christians do this? And the strength you use in debating marvels me. I expect you to ask her why she raises alarm at times. For her to have decided to converse with you means a lot. Perhaps she trusts you somehow, but you blew up the chance of ministering to her by attacking her. Christians minister to one another also. I was looking forward to a thread I can learn from, but I am disappointed the way you handled it. When she wrote she held back her questions, I expected you to use wisdom to talk to her. But what you did was wrong. Totally wrong. She is not one of these Pentecostal churches making noises around. There are truths in her messages. Though, she may not know all, but she is knows what she is preaching. I am not happy with you at all.

I wanted to come here and attack you. I wanted to blast you. But at the last moment, I just felt I am not better if I do that. Bro, you need to apologize to her. Apologizing to her doesn't make you a less person. It doesn't make you wrong too. It is the way forward. You can blast each other privately, but when posting messages publicly, let us represent Christ. Look at how she just walked away quietly. She is more of Christ with her action. And really, I am forced to want to listen to her more than you. Action speaks louder than words.

You guys can learn from each other. I am not here to condemn you but show you that you took it took far. Now that you have won the debate which she didnt even participate because she listened to the Holy Spirit not to speak further, what next? Are you happy? And where is your gold medal for winning the debate? Guy, apologize and learn from each other. Are you saying you haven't learn anything from her posts?

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