Dijita:

Dear friend your writing skill betrayed the interpretation you gave my comment. Please read again. You missed the use of "neither" and "nor"

I misread your post, apologies.

Shattuck:
the president can be summoned concerning the security situation and human right abuse by the military, and also questioned. your argument of being the commander of the armed forces does not make him immune to query, if you can't sack your failed service chiefs then you need to answer why.

Your opinion, not constitutional facts.

tunene66:


https://politicsnigeria.com/breaking-national-assembly-has-no-power-to-summon-buhari-malami/

one of Nigerian's problem is malami.....the guy doesn't know when to speak !!!!

Real buhari is dead
if you know you know

plaindealer:



This is your opinion which you are entitled to, but it's not constitutional facts unless you are able to show us the particular portion of the constitution that opined that the legislature can demand the appearance of the president which I'm 100% you can not, all you have is your own opinion that's not rooted in constitutional facts and precedents.

Power of the purse or investigation has nothing to do with summoning the executive. Try at least by showing us the relevant part in the Nigerian constitution that says the legislature can summon the executive.

The constitution is not a Democratic constitution.

It was created by military despots.
You should be asking for a change to civilian constitution instead of defending a faulty constitution.

Malami should be talking about changing it not trying to support a poor constitution.

Oh God, just end this deceptive government built on a foundation of falsehood. Uproot them all. All they have brought is hardship, sorrows and deaths.

CSTRR:

The constitution is not a Democratic constitution.

It was created by military despots.
You should be asking for a change to civilian constitution instead of defending a faulty constitution.

Malami should be talking about changing it not trying to support a poor constitution.

Military constitution or Malami talking about the constitution doesn't change the fact that the Legislature can not in anyway command or demand the appearance of the president before the legislature, it's grossly unconstitutional, it's beyond their scope of constitutional duties.

They also can not question the president per any issues relating to the operational activities of the Nigerian military because the military is under the control of the executive as the commander in chief of the armed forces.

The Nigerian legislature is full of not too enlightened people, they talk and make threats without thinking or consulting the constitution, they do this all the time and always end up keeping quiet.


Btw, in America, their congress cannot make or force the president to show up before them so is their constitution also military constitution?

plaindealer:




Military constitution or Malami talking about the constitution doesn't change the fact that the Legislature can not in anyway command or demand the appearance of the president before the legislature, it's grossly unconstitutional, it's beyond their scope of constitutional duties.

They also can not question the president per any issues relating to the operational activities of the Nigerian military because the military is under the control of the executive as the commander in chief of the armed forces.

The Nigerian legislature is full of not too enlightened people, they talk and make threats without thinking or consulting the constitution, they do this all the time and always end up keeping quiet.


Btw, in America, their congress cannot make or force the president to show up before them so is their constitution also military constitution?

In America, the congress can summon the president especially in critical situations like the security situation in Nigeria.

If he refuses to show up, they would declare a vote of no confidence and he can be removed from office by the power of congress.

National assembly call, you must answer.
If you choose not to, then you suffer the consequences.

That is true democracy.

Why

This one will go down in history as the most useless AGF!

Asslicke*rs

I strongly believe they have powers to impeach him. Let’s see if he will not visit if they attempt an impeachment processss

blackpanda:


Wrong. They can try.

why wrong?

Hysterical. Not surprising at all. This is why the Buhari legacy will be besmirched for all time. This is why he was removed the first time he was c-in-c. Abject failure to communicate, and rule. IBB must be laughing his head off at Nigerians. PMB has proved all his critics right by being ineffective and lacking in courage and accountability.

I believe Buhari is incapacitated.....he's probably brain dead and requires days to be propped up to attend to very important issues and meetings

Dijita:


1. Who begins the process of impeachment to the executive arm of government?
The legislature after they have carried out an investigation of the president. during the investigation president Trump prevented some member of his cabinet from appearing before congress see picture 1 below or read from this link:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/04/us/politics/turley-impeachment.html

b) on what grounds can impeachment be triggered?
Article II, section 4 of the U.S. Constitution defines the grounds for impeachment and conviction as ''treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

2. The US runs a democratic government model, give a detailed analysis of the impeachment hearing against president Donald Trump on December 18 2019?
Trump was impeached for abuse of power and obstruction of congress
see picture 2 and 3 below and detail in the following link
https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hres755/BILLS-116hres755enr.pdf
b) list the proponents and list the accusations of the impeachment.
You will see your answer in the link provided

3. With the answers provided from 1 and 2 can a president be summoned by legislature, to answer to "use of power" in a Democratic model which Nigeria practices?
Summon as it is used in the context under discussion connote force and authority like judge summoning a defendant or a witness. The legislature did not have the power or authority to compel a president to appear before it the way a judge have the power to summon a defendant or a witness. This was demonstrated during the impeachment proceeding against Donald J Trump in USA. It should also be noted that the legislature are acting as judges during impeachment and therefore may be afforded some privileges they may not have during normal cause of business

Bottom line Trump was not impeached for failure to appear before congress but for blocking material witnesses that are his aides from appearing before congress and blocking them from providing government documents to congress

Your answers were very detailed, however question 3 was very straightforward, you weren't asked to explain the difference between an impeachment and summon, it was; can a president be summoned by legislature; yes or no...?

CSTRR:

In America, the congress can summon the president especially in critical situations like the security situation in Nigeria.

If he refuses to show up, they would declare a vote of no confidence and he can be removed from office by the power of congress.

National assembly call, you must answer.
If you choose not to, then you suffer the consequences.

That is true democracy.

No, it can not, they don't have that authority, same in Nigeria.

You are free to state otherwise with documented and constitutional facts or even past precedents.

In America the so called defender of democracy where we copied our democracy from, their congress couldn't make Trump show up for his own impeachment or for any kind of congressional activities apart from state of the union address. So, is your democracy better than American democracy?

Trump even prevented members of his own admin from testifying before the legislature so what are you talking about?

I just don't know why you people think the legislature is constitutionally superior and above the executive and they can do anything they want or order around the other branches.

If there happened to be a parliament in this nation, Malami must be compelled to appear before a joint house session.

plaindealer:



No, it can not, they don't have that authority, same in Nigeria.

You are free to state otherwise with documented and constitutional facts or even past precedents.

In America the so called defender of democracy where we copied our democracy from, their congress couldn't make Trump show up for his own impeachment or for any kind of congressional activities apart from state of the union address. So, is your democracy better than American democracy?

Trump even prevented members of his own admin from testifying before the legislature so what are you talking about?

I just don't know why you people think the legislature is constitutionally superior and above the executive and they can do anything they want or order around the oêther branches.

Trump is a law breaker.
He has no respect for norms or laws. He has broken quite a few laws as president.

That is why he is one of the few Presidents to be impeached in a very long while.
The only reason why he was not removed from office was because the senate is led by republicans.
That is why he is not winning a second term.
Even Bush the warmonger and recession creator won a second term.

Trump is an outlier. He is not the definition of American presidency.

If congress calls, the president must answer.
They are the representative of the people.

CSTRR:

Trump is a law breaker.
He has no respect for norms or laws. He has quite a few laws as president.

That is why he is one of the few Presidents to be impeached in a very long while.
That is why he is not winning a second term.
Even Bush the warmonger won a second term.

Trump is an outlier. He is not the definition of American presidency.

If congress calls, the president must answer.

You are right about Trump, but presidents before him used the same executive privilege stance against the congress simply because there's no law or constitutional requirement in the US constitution delegating any form of power to the congress to summon the president.

Obama also used executive privilege to prevent Eric Holder his AG from cooperating with the congress, the congress couldn't do much beyond contempt against holder.

I know it sounds good to many of you that if the congress calls, the president must answer, but it's fantasy and lack or knowledge and understanding per the constitution and limits of the 3 branches of government. The presidency is not subordinate to the congress.

American democracy is more messed up than ours.

We have to constitution that we obey in this country...

1. Constitution of the Ruling party and the president

2. Constitution of the world powers...( I mean threats given to Nigeria that Nigeria will obey with speed of light )

plaindealer:



They don't know anything, not even basic and elementary social studies education.

tho hand in hand join together the wicked shall not go unpurnish..

the man should be impeached jare

Inother words the lawmakers have been reduced to honorable rats.