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Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by admissionrunz: 12:53pm On Jan 06
Lifepodcastng:
I believe you may be right to some extent and then some of your thoughts are not biblical. First of all, Satan did not exist before the beginning less Satan will be before even the Christ of GOD. Only GOD existed before the beginning and out of GOD came his light which is his Christ and our savior. Also there’s no place in the Bible where we can see that Satan has some sort of power that’s attributed to him in religion. So this your theory needs reshapening


Yes there's a place in the Bible that shows Satan has some sorts of power.

Remember when he tried to tempt Jesus?
He turned stone to bread.
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by Henrymorre: 12:57pm On Jan 06
simplesearch:


Who is Jesus then, if not God? Quote your authority!
already asked this, answer the questions I asked. And quote me the phrase in the Bible where Jesus claimed he was God or he was God.
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by Xbee007(m): 12:58pm On Jan 06
malvisguy212:
the univers is 14billion years , but human existence begins 6000 years ago
Maybe the middle Eastern people who wrote the "holy book" began their existence 6000 years (I know it is false though). The Dufuna canoe found in Yobe has been radio carbon dated to over 8,000 years old. As far as I know, only human are capable of building canoe.
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by Xbee007(m): 1:04pm On Jan 06
iramure:
And the earth had been suffering hardship since before god made jesus just 2000 years ago, he is indeed a merciful god
LMAO
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by Xbee007(m): 1:07pm On Jan 06
simplesearch:


Keeping the same distant like a random gaseous molecular bombardment within a closed wall, how does this amount to expansion of any significance. For fourteen billion years if such expansion ever existed the firmament would be far unreachable by now. Most of this explanations don't really exist we only device legions of selected words to suit our narrative when a subject matter becomes vague.
That the universe is expanding has been proving beyond reasonable doubt.
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by emmyrate1: 1:40pm On Jan 06
Xbee007:
But there are people who will have us believe it is just 6000 years old because their "holy book" says so. Bunch of jokers.
stupidity is when u believe in science that keep telling you different years of existence every year. In months times some set will come out and say 20billions years. But in all God is the Supreme being and not even the scientist can guess right the age of the universe
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by Fredmatic(m): 1:44pm On Jan 06
obonujoker:


Revelation 21:1 destroys your argument

U get it wrong, that is not the beginning of creation, that is then end , when we might have reign 1000 years on Earth with Jesus
There will be final war, then judgement after them the Earth and heaven will be renew which is different from the beginning creation
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Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by Fredmatic(m): 1:46pm On Jan 06
Reference:


2 Peter 3:8 makes it clear that God does not have a concept of, neither is He governed by the dimensions of time and space. He is immortal and omni present.

Time and space is of mortality that man acquired when he sinned and lost his 'God-likeness'.

Now man is desperately trying to regain the knowledge and immortality he sold to the devil through science and technology.

What is your point
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by Xbee007(m): 1:50pm On Jan 06
emmyrate1:
stupidity is when u believe in science that keep telling you different years of existence every year. In months times some set will come out and say 20billions years. But in all God is the Supreme being and not even the scientist can guess right the age of the universe
Science that made the phone you are typing with, the internet, and modern medicine that allowed us to live much longer. Yeah, it's stupidity to believe in it, lol. And religious people want to be taken seriously when all they've contributed to the world is fear chaos and backwardness.

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Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by obonujoker(m): 1:53pm On Jan 06
Fredmatic:


U get it wrong, that is not the beginning of creation, that is then end , when we might have reign 1000 years on Earth with Jesus
There will be final war, then judgement after them the Earth and heaven will be renew which is different from the beginning creation
,







Bible says in Revelation 21:1

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by SeunTheOwner: 1:57pm On Jan 06
Ever8090:
Ok.. waiting for another mad man to come up with a new theory in the name of science to debug this 14 billion years agreement..

DNA test should made cheap to explain this sort of mysteries..

Have you compare Seun and Senator Bukola Saraki

Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by SweetDipBenny: 1:59pm On Jan 06
Dats a big fat lie
Nobody knows
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by Birchi33(f): 2:23pm On Jan 06
Enudapan:
Nah eh! No qualms This people will just be assuming unnecessary things
I dey tell you....come fvuck at a very cheaper price, we are in Lagos VI ...
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by KushLyon(m): 3:06pm On Jan 06
simplesearch:


You don't need science to produce phone so just shut it!

Of course not, phone was not given birth to by science, it dropped out of the sky grin dullard
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by ostechno(m): 3:53pm On Jan 06
Fahdiga:
By next year another set of scientists will say that the universe is 20 billion years. this goes to show that where human wisdom stops, that's where God's wisdom starts. God is supreme
Sorry but it won't change,
With the help of what is called radiometric dating, you can get the exact age of anything.
I don't know why Christians says according to the Bible, the earth is 6000 years old, it is a big miscalculation as there's a lot of events not recorded in the Bible
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by ostechno(m): 3:54pm On Jan 06
BeeBeeOoh:
One mad man go just wake up one morning after enough highness begin talk nonsense and people go believe am angry
Mad man?
You think it's nonsense, lol
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by SeriouslySense(m): 4:13pm On Jan 06
cheesy cheesy cheesy, and its believed the expansion of the universe is accelerating, so probably the universe is cooling down, which leads to the eventual death of the universe probably billions of years to come, but what about the law of energy conservation. If the Universe is accelerating in its expansion, why is it accelerating, where does the force causing its acceleration comes from.

That leads to dark Matter cheesy cheesy cheesy



hayoholla:


Not only christian. Unfortunately, the wave of ignorance cut across youths in this country. Nigerian youths are just so grossly ignorant abeg. I can't even find the right word to quantify deepness of ignorance that bedevils us, its a great abyss that will need personal willpower to climb out from. Imagine them typing god is this, Jesus is that, Allah is this, Allah is that. Imagine for Bleep sake! And we blame the government, when our ability to think and reason am has been exchanged for fantasies we call religion. Maybe its not their fault, but maybe the fault is from the parents who are too strict and rigid in our upbringing, they used a lot of rhetorics of religion in our upbringing, that it has really robbed many of us the ability to reason on our own, it has robbed us of our "individualism" that we shirk in our responsibility in taking charge of our life, and if we can't do this, how can we even understand the world around us, except we try to garb them with the garment of fantasies which we think is more relatable, but don't actually work! Youth really needs to do more for ourselves. It's not poverty that's affecting us! Though, it's a contributing factor too. Infact poverty itself is an after, more like a secondary effect of continuous brainwashing, because when you create an idea or belief that robs someone the ability to think for himself, or herself. You ultimately rob such person of every mental process that will aid him in being a better individual, financially inclusive! I am angry an same time sad of the comments I have been seeing so far angry cry

Anyways, the rate of expansion of the universe is as a result of a term called red-shifting. This means that light coming from these stars are shifted to a much longer wavelength in the the color spectrum which makes it "redder". This means that the star you see in the sky today will no longer be there in the distant future, because of the expansion which in turns cause the light from this stars to be kind of "blurred" when the slowly move away from us, as we move away from them too, because the "space" between us and this objects in the sky is expanding. But it is not expanding into anything, but within itself to nowhere.
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by SeriouslySense(m): 4:36pm On Jan 06
smiley smiley

Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by OndoRaph(m): 5:15pm On Jan 06
Fahdiga:
By next year another set of scientists will say that the universe is 20 billion years. this goes to show that where human wisdom stops, that's where God's wisdom starts. God is supreme
Black man's thought
Fahdiga:
By next year another set of scientists will say that the universe is 20 billion years. this goes to show that where human wisdom stops, that's where God's wisdom starts. God is supreme
Black man's thought
Fahdiga:
By next year another set of scientists will say that the universe is 20 billion years. this goes to show that where human wisdom stops, that's where God's wisdom starts. God is supreme
Black man's thought
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by OndoRaph(m): 5:18pm On Jan 06
Righteousness2:
Whether the Earth is 14 billion or whatever old,
What is important is for all to know that in the Beginning, GOD Created the Heaven and the Earth.

In the Course of Time, HE sent His only begotten son JESUS to Died for all of Humanity.

That same JESUS is at the Verge of coming back to take away All who believe in Him..
That is just another version brought to you by the same white people
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by Pelecius: 6:25pm On Jan 06
Xbee007:

Science that made the phone you are typing with, the internet, and modern medicine that allowed us to live much longer. Yeah, it's stupidity to believe in it, lol. And religious people want to be taken seriously when all they've contributed to the world is fear chaos and backwardness.
It's a shame that you seem to contrast science with religion. Worse, you confuse OPERATIONAL SCIENCE (physics, chemistry, physiology etc) with the science that attempt to give us info about unobserved past.
Worst (lol) you may not know that religious people are the only one who can do science. What do I mean, Christianity, Atheism, Judaism, Islam and other forms work with a presupposition which they use in explaining phenomenon or observation (as data don't interpret themselves). For the record, modern science was founded on Christian pressuposition and over 70% of Nobel Laurette in science are Christians. Be informed before trying low blows
I just hope you know that atheism is categorized as religion (according to US supreme court and enjoy Sam freedom entitled to religious folks in every free state)
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by AngelicBeing: 7:23pm On Jan 06
Righteousness2:
Whether the Earth is 14 billion or whatever old,
What is important is for all to know that in the Beginning, GOD Created the Heaven and the Earth.

In the Course of Time, HE sent His only begotten son JESUS to Died for all of Humanity.

That same JESUS is at the Verge of coming back to take away All who believe in Him..
wink

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Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by helicoptarr: 7:45pm On Jan 06
Only God knows.
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by berbs: 8:19pm On Jan 06
And the BIBLE is how old?
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by Xbee007(m): 8:27pm On Jan 06
Pelecius:

It's a shame that you seem to contrast science with religion.
I rightly contrasted science with faith because they are inherently different. Pull that wool off your eyes! Science is an attempt to understand the world based on evidence.
Religion is an attempt to understand the world based on faith.

A talking snake managed to convince Eve to eat an apple. Science will say "sounds like bullsh*t." Religion will say, "sounds interesting, pray, do tell me more."

Worse, you confuse OPERATIONAL SCIENCE (physics, chemistry, physiology etc) with the science that attempt to give us info about unobserved past.
"Operational Science" is a pseudonym made up by creationists to bellitle science and bolster their stance. Science attempts to understand the world from the beginning of time, the big bang, or what you called the "unobserved past." Why does NASA, for example, send a man to the moon?

Worst (lol) you may not know that religious people are the only one who can do science.
When Galileo observed that the earth wasn't flat and wasn't at the center of the universe, he was summarily locked up by the church who had preached for centuries that the earth was at the center of the universe. Also, when some scientists began dissecting human cadavers in order to understand human anatomy and advance modern medicine, the church stopped them calling the human cadavers, "temples of the lord that should never be descecrated." Religion, literally placed a choke hold on modern medicine!

Btw, everyone, even scientists, were religious at the time because the consequences for atheism was dire. Self-proclaimed atheists were jailed till they recanted and even burnt alive.

What do I mean, Christianity, Atheism, Judaism, Islam and other forms work with a presupposition which they use in explaining phenomenon or observation (as data don't interpret themselves). For the record, modern science was founded on Christian pressuposition and over 70% of Nobel Laurette in science are Christians.
Atheism should never be lumped up with other religions because "absence of belief is not belief." Baldness is not an hairstyle, lol! Modern science isn't found on Christian presuppositions. Modern science is founded on evidence and facts which is mutually exclusive with Christianity. I wonder how virgin Mary contributed to science or tower of Babel rationally explained the differences in human languages.

Be informed before trying low blows
I just hope you know that atheism is categorized as religion (according to US supreme court and enjoy Sam freedom entitled to religious folks in every free state)
The only reason USA constitution categorises atheism as a religion is because of human rights. To ensure every American enjoy equal rights regardless of their beliefs.

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Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by adeniyi65(m): 9:25pm On Jan 06
shocked shocked haaa! shocked
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by Fredmatic(m): 9:43pm On Jan 06
ostechno:

Sorry but it won't change,
With the help of what is called radiometric dating, you can get the exact age of anything.
I don't know why Christians says according to the Bible, the earth is 6000 years old, it is a big miscalculation as there's a lot of events not recorded in the Bible

Thanks for seeing the truth and they don't want to learn. There are many things the Bible didn't mention and people are searching out every day and if it doesn't match to some people thinking, they disragard it and say u are saying nonsense . They don't want to make effort to search by themselves

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Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by Fredmatic(m): 10:32pm On Jan 06
obonujoker:


Bible says in Revelation 21:1

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Is talking at this present Earth now, at the right time it will pass away meaning it will be renew together with the heaven above. Don't let the word first confused you. Is only comparing the two things.

That is will go, and the next will come
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by Slimqueen(f): 10:58pm On Jan 06
Reinaldo:


Assumption? Are you sure you're learned? Are you even familiar with the principles of science or didn't you do GNS in Uni? This is really depressing. Jeez!

Lolz. so this is what defines a learned individual? which principles? how did they gather data? So u believe u were an ape? it's all based on assumption so please stop. thank you.
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by Slimqueen(f): 11:02pm On Jan 06
Reinaldo:


Assumption? Are you sure you're learned? Are you even familiar with the principles of science or didn't you do GNS in Uni? This is really depressing. Jeez!

lolz, so this is what defines a learned person? which principles? how did they gather data? So u believe u were an ape? its all assumptions so please stop. thanks.
Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by keppler: 6:07am On Jan 08
Xbee007:

I rightly contrasted science with faith because they are inherently different. Pull that wool off your eyes! Science is an attempt to understand the world based on evidence.
Religion is an attempt to understand the world based on faith.

A talking snake managed to convince Eve to eat an apple. Science will say "sounds like bullsh*t." Religion will say, "sounds interesting, pray, do tell me more."


"Operational Science" is a pseudonym made up by creationists to bellitle science and bolster their stance. Science attempts to understand the world from the beginning of time, the big bang, or what you called the "unobserved past." Why does NASA, for example, send a man to the moon?


When Galileo observed that the earth wasn't flat and wasn't at the center of the universe, he was summarily locked up by the church who had preached for centuries that the earth was at the center of the universe. Also, when some scientists began dissecting human cadavers in order to understand human anatomy and advance modern medicine, the church stopped them calling the human cadavers, "temples of the lord that should never be descecrated." Religion, literally placed a choke hold on modern medicine!

Btw, everyone, even scientists, were religious at the time because the consequences for atheism was dire. Self-proclaimed atheists were jailed till they recanted and even burnt alive.


Atheism should never be lumped up with other religions because "absence of belief is not belief." Baldness is not an hairstyle, lol! Modern science isn't found on Christian presuppositions. Modern science is founded on evidence and facts which is mutually exclusive with Christianity. I wonder how virgin Mary contributed to science or tower of Babel rationally explained the differences in human languages.


The only reason USA constitution categorises atheism as a religion is because of human rights. To ensure every American enjoy equal rights regardless of their beliefs.
I rightly contrasted science with faith because they are inherently different.
Not that they are not different, but they are not world and opposites as you seem to have believed from many of your comments

Pull that wool off your eyes!
Great from one who cannot define religion properly as seen below

Science is an attempt to understand the world based on evidence.
Religion is an attempt to understand the world based on faith.

Just as said above. This just show that you swallow whatever you read without passing it through an objective lens provided it is against theism. Please, consult dictionary to get a simple explanation of what religion is. Such type of your definition is a show of either deliberate deception (wouldn't be surprised coming from folk like you) or that of sheer ignorance.

A talking snake managed to convince Eve to eat an apple. Science will say "sounds like bullsh*t." Religion will say, "sounds interesting, pray, do tell me more."
First of all, your ignorance of the text (or deception) is not my problem. Devil called the old serpent deceived to eat a fruit (not apple). This is what one gets when some folks dabble to what they are ignorant of.
Secondly, you fail to know the limits of science and maybe falsely equate atheism to science here (since the latter will object to such because it goes against its worldview). Science is descriptive and not prescriptive, it does not cause or forbid anything. So it can NEVER call it bullshit, and worse, your argument was built on straw man since you are not even informed on what you want to criticize.

"Operational Science" is a pseudonym made up by creationists to bellitle science and bolster their stance. Science attempts to understand the world from the beginning of time, the big bang, or what you called the "unobserved past." Why does NASA, for example, send a man to the moon?
Just glad you repeated the usual response found online against contrasting OBSERVABLE, REPEATABLE AND TESTABLE science from UNOBSERVEABLE, UNREPEATABLE and UNTESTABLE events which happened at a time beyond anyone's reach; hence called HISTORICAL SCIENCE. So, you didn't refute anything but committed the question begging epithet fallacy claiming that a group belittle science. What science? The one which follows the scientific method of observability, testability and repeatability?
Again, this is either intentional deception for gullible readers or sheer ignorance to not be able to understand difference between science that put men on the moon (that which follows the scientific method) and the science that attempt to explain what happened in the distant unobserved past which no one witnessed.

When Galileo observed that the earth wasn't flat...
Galileo observed that the earth wasn't flat? grin grin grin I laugh WUHANically. Like I said before, be well informed on a topic before making a case for it. That the earth was spherical has been established some centuries BC. SMH

...and wasn't at the center of the universe, he was summarily locked up by the church who had preached for centuries that the earth was at the center of the universe
I don't just know where you get your misinformation. That the earth was at the 'center of the universe' was the "best science" at that time just like the big bang of now. It was taught by many schools and firmly and scientifically established by Ptolemy. That science was called Ptolemaic Geocentricity.
Again, he was not locked up for necessarily going against the church as noted by many historians but that he held a view which he cannot scientifically prove and is also found to be heretical (since the church was following the 'best of science' also).
Btw, it was still church guy Keppler who was able to scientifically prove Heliocentricity and the church did nothing to him. Another God loving scientist (described as one of the greatest mind that ever lived) Newton explained the universal gravitational attraction. It's possible that you don't know Newton as a God loving scientist for he even wrote more religious books than scientific books.

Also, when some scientists began dissecting human cadavers in order to understand human anatomy and advance modern medicine, the church stopped them calling the human cadavers, "temples of the lord that should never be descecrated." Religion, literally placed a choke hold on modern medicine!
Your willingness to swallow false accusation against God is amazing. I bet you didn't even check to see what the decree is before coming to bring your misinformation. Anyway, this is the decree
“Persons cutting up the bodies of the dead, barbarously cooking them in order that the bones being separated from the flesh may be carried for burial into their own countries are by the very fact excommunicated.”
Now tell me how this stopped dissection. And for your information public dissection was even carried out during the time of the Pope who issued this decree that bodies started getting missing as folks were stealing them for dissection in Universities (founded by the church).
You can lie all you want, facts will not support you for anyone who cares to find them but those who may be looking for opportunity to live a life free from the ideals of godliness could latch on to such lie and BELIEVE that church is the problem.

Btw, everyone, even scientists, were religious at the time because the consequences for atheism was dire. Self-proclaimed atheists were jailed till they recanted and even burnt alive.
Lies upon lies!!!! Again, you ignorantly BELIEVED that scientists wouldn't have chosen to love God if not for fear of their lives when most centers for learning (science especially) where founded and run by the church just as missionaries brought education to Nigeria.
Btw, don't confuse witch burning and war against sorcery with atheism. Atheism does not believe in any of those.
Lastly, read on foundation of modern science so you won't be showing sheer ignorance due to your hatred for God and godliness (everyone wish to do whatever he likes and wouldn't like to be under any constraint, so it is easy to deny existence of God and look for ways to look intellectually sound, something that atheism still lack philosophically - basis for logic)

Atheism should never be lumped up with other religions because "absence of belief is not belief." Baldness is not an hairstyle, lol!

That is the new desperate definition of atheism but as I showed in one thread some months ago, the American atheist website defined atheism the way you did but reading further, they wrote "Atheism is about what you believe" (a screenshot is below). So don't deceive yourself with such play of words (by the way, what is deception in an atheistic worldview?). Your example is a fallacy of false analogy as shown that the definition is not even self sustaining.

Modern science isn't found on Christian presuppositions.
Don't just give a hand waiving dismissal, read objective papers on history of modern science; not just your favorite deceitful anti-God blogs or sites who seems to feed wannabe atheists with what they want

Modern science is founded on evidence and facts which is mutually exclusive with Christianity.
When you read about the philosophical grounds on which modern science was founded, you can come back (this ignorance is overwhelming undecided)

I wonder how virgin Mary contributed to science or tower of Babel rationally explained the differences in human languages.
Attacking straw man is not a good traits of true lovers of science. Like I wrote above, take your time to study diligently on how and why modern science flourish, maybe it'll help remove the wool you mentioned before.
For the tower of Babel, having a knowledge about language groups (fallible scholars' classification anyway) is best explained that all languages did not descend from one single language but from very few languages. You may interpret it the way you want

The only reason USA constitution categorises atheism as a religion is because of human rights. To ensure every American enjoy equal rights regardless of their beliefs
Alright Prof, who didn't know what led the supreme court to make such declaration undecided undecided

It turns out that you still don't know that science is not independent as history of science has shown that scientists works with their worldview which I mentioned before.
Again, your hatred for God helps you in dishing out misinformation and lies to prove your case, and committing several logical fallacies

An intelligent heart acquires knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge. Proverbs 18:15

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Re: Astronomers Now Agree Universe Is Nearly 14 Billion Years Old by Lifepodcastng: 3:32am On Jan 09
Read the Bible again pls. I do not think you have read it well enough. Mathew 4:1-11 with emphasis on verse 3


admissionrunz:


Yes there's a place in the Bible that shows Satan has some sorts of power.

Remember when he tried to tempt Jesus?
He turned stone to bread.

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