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Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by Billyonaire666: 12:09pm On Jan 24
obonujoker:


Don't be foolish... God is above matter... And stop wasting your time going on irrelevant spiritual travels... Come to Jesus and be saved

Jesus is a friend of mine, he comes to me in dreams and soul missions.

But I can not make the mistake he made.
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by obonujoker(m): 12:10pm On Jan 24
Billyonaire666:


Jesus is a friend of mine, he comes to me in dreams and soul missions.

But I can not make the mistake he made.

Lol... What mistake??

Having a name above every other name?
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by Billyonaire666: 12:26pm On Jan 24
obonujoker:


Lol... What mistake??

Having a name above every other name?

The guy was murdered like a common criminal, because the politicians thought he was a threat to their governance.

What a way to die in a world he had already had a capability of designing from a collective consciousness level before jacking into the matrix.

And Zoroaster warned him oooh to stay away from the poor, yet Yahusua Ha Masiach did not listen, he said he came for the poor masses, now fools are hipping more karma on his spirit cos of a story that his name can take away sins of all. Ha ha, Christians and their laziness, they refuse to take responsibility for their silly actions because they think are being washed when in essence you have so much karmic bondage that you will repeat this planet for millions of lifetimes to even your odds. That is why you people are suffering in ignorance. Though there is secret way of clearing your script, I will not tell any of you. I have done enough for those who are smart enough to understand.

My excitement is that Jesu, Jesus, Yesuah, Yahushua of whatever you guys label him these days has exited the matrix and while the lies are being processed by a capable AI.

Pray for him grin

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by P1PrinceKT(m): 12:42pm On Jan 24
egobetatoday:


I know several Muslims who fornicate, defraud, kill etc. my Muslim house help got pregnant and aborted. According to Muslims, she hasn't sinned because the fornication was done in secret, so also the abortion. Her hijab rubs the floor in case you want to knowcheesy. In Christianity, We know God sees the heart, so what is the use of covering when the person (God) who will judge if you are a sinner or not saw your fornication carried out in secret?cheesy Unlike in Islam! In Christianity, There is no need covering your sin because God sees them all, Infact he sees your heart! . So, there is no difference, for us as Christians, between that Christian you have concluded has free ticket to do immoral things and the Muslim girl who covers up all her body and still do immoral things. Muslims like to be deceived that's why they pretend and do all the covering, Christians know you can't pretend for God. We only pray for such people in Christianity, we don't enforce that they dress well or pretend to be holy. The Bible says 'chose this day whom you will serve' so we have a choice to serve God or not unlike in Islam where there is no choice. God is the ultimate judge who rewards heaven or hell at the appropriate time.

What can you do with the verse in The Bible that says "For a woman to walk without her head cover up, is better the head is cut off"

if you understand the verse anyway.

how can you compare it with going naked and called it that God only sees heart not your appearance.


from my understanding you are choosing verses based on your OPINION or EASINESS.
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by Peacefullove: 12:43pm On Jan 24
egobetatoday:


God breathed his spirit on the earth he formed (body) and it became a living soul (Genesis 2:7). From this you can see the relationship between the spirit, soul and body. So man is made up of a spirit (which is from God and will go back to God after death. It is God's property), a soul (which is the real you, the soul returns to his maker too. It is the soul that goes for judgement with God) and a body (which was made from earth and which we carry around when we are alive, at death it goes back to the earth).

Am not sure you read before replying me,

So a soul has tongue ? A soul drink water ?

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by supercase1(m): 12:49pm On Jan 24
Righteousness2:
Hell is a Place where everyone there are believers.

The Moment you open your Eyes in Hell, no matter what you claim you were on Earth, you will instantly believe JESUS but it will be Late.

Hell is a Place where Everyone cries for Repentance

The Moment you open your Eyes in Hell, you automatically begin to beg for second chance and Mercy, but unfortunately it is too late.

Everyone in Hell becomes a Preacher

The richman who didn't have JESUS open his eyes in Hell. One of his Pleas was for Father Abramham to send Lazarus to go warn his brothers and Friends on Earth so they won't come there.

Only the Living has the Privilege and Opportunity to repent and turn to JESUS. Do it now to avoid Super stories that touch the heart on the other side.
shut up this hypocritical fake e-preacher Ecclesiastes 9:5 says the living are consious that they will die but the dead are conscious of noting,they Bible said their will be a resurrection of the rightous and unrighteous in the last day.even job and David said even in hell God shouldn't forget them

so David and job are in hellfire burning abi?

hell is a mistranslation of the Hebrew word sheol and Hades which means grave land of the dead.
stop turning Bible upside down
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by Theophinio(m): 12:51pm On Jan 24
Repent Now and be save from eternal burning
JESUS is the only Way
Hell is more real than Earth itself
#BEWISE

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by Adakintroy: 12:53pm On Jan 24
Forget hell or heaven you can make life heaven and hell earth.

Just love one another.

We have everything we need here. But we still look to another kingdom else were fror answers.
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by OLULAW: 1:04pm On Jan 24
Stop perpetuating ancient folklore. Hell and heaven are made up. If this day you can empirically prove the existence of hell, not by quoting some fraudulently authored scriptures, but by proving hell exists, empirically, then I would believe. Otherwise, keep that nonsensical thoughts to yourself.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by Burruchaga71(m): 1:19pm On Jan 24
Where is Hell fire located?
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by obonujoker(m): 2:21pm On Jan 24
Billyonaire666:


The guy was murdered like a common criminal, because the politicians thought he was a threat to their governance.

What a way to die in a world he had already had a capability of designing from a collective consciousness level before jacking into the matrix.

And Zoroaster warned him oooh to stay away from the poor, yet Yahusua Ha Masiach did not listen, he said he came for the poor masses, now fools are hipping more karma on his spirit cos of a story that his name can take away sins of all. Ha ha, Christians and their laziness, they refuse to take responsibility for their silly actions because they think are being washed when in essence you have so much karmic bondage that you will repeat this planet for millions of lifetimes to even your odds. That is why you people are suffering in ignorance. Though there is secret way of clearing your script, I will not tell any of you. I have done enough for those who are smart enough to understand.

My excitement is that Jesu, Jesus, Yesuah, Yahushua of whatever you guys label him these days has exited the matrix and while the lies are being processed by a capable AI.

Pray for him grin


You don't understand the machinations of God workings
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by johnstin(m): 3:08pm On Jan 24
Theophinio:
Repent Now and be save from eternal burning
JESUS is the only Way
Hell is more real than Earth itself
#BEWISE
Hell is very real. I pray people will not get to hell before realize it.
People are rationalizing that because GOD is loving and can not create hell.
We human beings just like crossing our boundary. Who are we to question the Almighty GOD? GOD can do what He likes. The important thing is that GOD has given us two options: heaven and hell.
On the great judgement day, people will be very gentle upon seeing the LORD GOD Almighty in His glory.
There will be no excuse, I repeat, there will be no acceptable excuse for anyone who has not surrendered and followed our Lord Jesus Christ to the end.
You can't say you haven't heard.
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by Icumsa45(m): 3:12pm On Jan 24
sonmvayina:
So man is made up of spirit from God + dust from the earth. Death simply means return to default. The spirit becomes one with God and the body returns to the earth and becomes dust. We all are Gods spirit experiencing life as ourselves. It is just the body that is different. So why will God torment his spirit? Does it make any sense to you? God only gave us laws to keep and obey so that his spirit will have a good and fruitful experience while dwelling within the body.

No more no less.

Any other thing is paganism..

Won't we account for our deeds?
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by egobetatoday: 4:22pm On Jan 24
P1PrinceKT:


What can you do with the verse in The Bible that says "For a woman to walk without her head cover up, is better the head is cut off"

if you understand the verse anyway.

how can you compare it with going naked and called it that God only sees heart not your appearance.


from my understanding you are choosing verses based on your OPINION or EASINESS.

I never said God sees the heart not your appearance, I said God sees your heart, so don't try to think you can deceive God by your appearance. it's obvious Muslims think they can deceive God through their appearance. A Muslim girl fornicates and aborts but because she covers up she doesn't have free ticket to sin according to you but because a Christian doesn't hide her own then she has free ticket to sin. In Christianity, it is your heart that should change first ( not your appearance first) because out of the heart proceeds evil or good. So as a Christian following Christ, your heart changes first, which means you now hate sin, your thought changes too, then your dressing changes because you want to glorify God with your dressing (we don't force people to cover up like Muslims, you decide on your own because you have met Christ). There is no need covering up to appease humans in Christianity because it's not humans that will judge you. Whether you cover up ( in the case of pretenders/ Muslims) or not (Christians with free ticket to sin according to you) God judges the heart.
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by egobetatoday: 4:25pm On Jan 24
Peacefullove:


Am not sure you read before replying me,

So a soul has tongue ? A soul drink water ?

To be frank, I didn't see the need to reply you after your rude reply. Is it only the things that drink water or has tongue that goes for judgement?
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by Casham: 4:30pm On Jan 24
MrRegret:
If D CHURCH likes they should create stories that if any does bad dey will put there preeq inside volcana for all eternity, who go do bad go do bad, ur politheifcian will still loot ur funds and put people in misery.

Know this today, dat it is not out of fear that man worship Jehovah God but out of reverential fear and LOVE, that man worship God.
So instead of preaching torment, remind us what love, God has shown us and done for us.

Kapish.
God bless you. You just said it. I wouldn't want my children to obey me out of fear of getting thrown out, but out of love. Bless You!
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by GRACEGLORY: 4:46pm On Jan 24
Even though, I've got Home (Heaven) on my mind, It's not Heaven nor hell that bothers me, it's here (earth) where people exit with the same treasures they brought without manifestation nor fulfilment whatsoever thereby enriching the grave.
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by sonmvayina(m): 5:17pm On Jan 24
Icumsa45:


Won't we account for our deeds?

Who is we ? What deeds? Is it not God that created us like this,exxept you think he made a mistake..
We are spiritual beings...we are all Gods..

Will God account for his deeds ? We are all part of God. God is everywhere...judgement is only for the living...
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by Peacefullove: 6:33pm On Jan 24
egobetatoday:


To be frank, I didn't see the need to reply you after your rude reply. Is it only the things that drink water or has tongue that goes for judgement?

Bro nothing is rude, am reasoning with you from the scriptures u quoted, in the story of rich man and Lazarus, we saw that the rich man has tongue, and he drinks water . This is a contradiction to your statement that it's the soul that goes for judgement .

Let me burst you further , according to you only the soul goes for Judgement, But according to Jesus in Matthew 10 vs 28, it's body and soul that goes to hell, So if body go to hell, how many people have gone to hell with their human body ? Or who is lying between. You and Jesus ?
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:55pm On Jan 24
One thing i've noticed in Churchgoers preaching is their undue emphasis on HELLFIRE and LAKE OF FIRE whereas the Bible sent Jesus' followers out to preach the GOOD NEWS! cheesy

Definitely there is nothing like GOOD NEWS in the doctrine of the churches of Christendom apart from threatening those who want to reason along with them!

My own question is why not leave this Hellfire issue and concentrate on what is there to gain if one happens to be a true believer? cheesy
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by jesusjnr1: 7:12pm On Jan 24
Matthew 13:41-42 (KJV)

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


Mark 9:43-48 (KJV)

And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by P1PrinceKT(m): 7:14pm On Jan 24
egobetatoday:


I never said God sees the heart not your appearance, I said God sees your heart, so don't try to think you can deceive God by your appearance. it's obvious Muslims think they can deceive God through their appearance. A Muslim girl fornicates and aborts but because she covers up she doesn't have free ticket to sin according to you but because a Christian doesn't hide her own then she has free ticket to sin. In Christianity, it is your heart that should change first ( not your appearance first) because out of the heart proceeds evil or good. So as a Christian following Christ, your heart changes first, which means you now hate sin, your thought changes too, then your dressing changes because you want to glorify God with your dressing (we don't force people to cover up like Muslims, you decide on your own because you have met Christ). There is no need covering up to appease humans in Christianity because it's not humans that will judge you. Whether you cover up ( in the case of pretenders/ Muslims) or not (Christians with free ticket to sin according to you) God judges the heart.


you mean that Muslims are pretenders for trying to follow the teachings of the Qur'an.

remember that they are following one verse that order them to cover their body and they are trying their best. while you, ignored it.

what ever you see Muslims doing, you may likely to see it in the Bible (while you ignored them, Muslims try as much as possible to do it ,) no matter how bad he is ??
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by sonmvayina(m): 7:17pm On Jan 24
MaxInDHouse:
One thing i've noticed in Churchgoers preaching is their undue emphasis on HELLFIRE and LAKE OF FIRE whereas the Bible sent Jesus' followers out to preach the GOOD NEWS! cheesy

Definitely there is nothing like GOOD NEWS in the doctrine of the churches of Christendom apart from threatening those who want to reason along with them!

My own question is why not leave this Hellfire issue and concentrate on [i]what is there to gain if one happens to be a true believer? :[/i]D

What is there to gain ?
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:23pm On Jan 24
Let's ask the OP, at least it's time to talk about the GOOD side of their faith instead of the bad side after all they're good in their religion and i suppose one could be drawn easily with the goodies than the fear of threat, since there are several religions using the same threat! cheesy

sonmvayina:


What is there to gain ?
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by sonmvayina(m): 7:42pm On Jan 24
MaxInDHouse:
Let's ask the OP, at least it's time to talk about the GOOD side of their faith instead of the bad side after all they're good in their religion and i suppose one could be drawn easily with the goodies than the fear of threat, since there are several religions using the same threat! cheesy


It was you i mentioned.....so, over to you..
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by MoneyTrees(m): 9:02pm On Jan 24
And I brought out my Jumbo sized Mali kush and took a puff, for it is written that there's no place hotter or more terrible than this country.
I am really honest to say, Anyone who has made it from this shithole country will never go to any hell cos he/she has been through hell already grin grin
jesusjnr2020:
Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists

Because to see hell fire, you might have to be inside hell fire first, and by then it might already be too late for you to be able to do anything about it even though you now believe it exists.

So your believing that hell fire exists after you've seen it with very own your eyes would not be of any use to you, just as it was with the rich man in the instance of Lazarus who couldn't use it to do anything about his own stay there. Hence his request that those who were yet alive on Earth be reached with the message of hell's existence by someone who had seen hell fire after death but wasn't in hell like Lazarus, who didn't wait to see it first before he believed, so that they wouldn't have to go to that place of torment.

Luke 16:23-28 (KJV)

And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.


That request of the rich man in hell fire has been granted by God on several occasions, as He's sent many people like Lazarus to testify of hell fire's existence to those alive on Earth who've never been there before, so that they wouldn't have to also go there as the rich man just because they didn't know that it existed.

But if despite the warnings of all these people that God had sent from the dead to testify of hell fire's existence, you still end up in hell fire as the rich man because you wanted to see hell fire first before you believed in its existence, you wouldn't have anyone else to blame but yourself, because the same testimony of hell fire you wasted, was that which the rich man in hell fire wished he had to prevent him from getting there.

God bless.
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by Johnboom: 9:53pm On Jan 24
sonmvayina:


Let me put this in lay mans language so that you will really understand. Maybe the way i have been saying it is to hard for you.

Man was created by God. Man was fashioned from the dust of the earth, you know like an artist does. Then God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. So Gods breath brought the statue to life. So when God takes his breath man stop breathing and man dies. What you have left is just the statue or a lifeeless body. So we bury it and let it turn to dust because it used to accomodate Gods breath.

So i really dont know what is going to hell? Is it Gods breath or the body..
Mind you that Gods breath is the same image and likeness as God. The hebrew word used as breath is "Nerphesh" it also means spirit. Just like psalm 104 says "
Have you ever planted corn before. It decays and new corn is form that is the same here. Any body that go into hell will have another body that won't die but will be in toment for ever and ever. The solution is Christ. Period.
Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by sonmvayina(m): 10:01pm On Jan 24
Johnboom:
Have you ever planted corn before. It decays and new corn is form that is the same here. Any body that go into hell will have another body that won't die but will be in toment for ever and ever. The solution is Christ. Period.

Is it whst the creator said or you just looking for whst to believe?

Is there anywhere in the old testament God admonished people to give their life to the messish or worship him ?

Aturu...

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