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The Problematic Peugeot 307 by Ikenna351(m): 11:14pm On Jan 30, 2021
THE PROBLEMATIC PEUGEOT 307.

A neighbor of mine has 2 Peugeot 307 SW phase II (T6), among other non Peugeot cars in his fleet, even more expensive than the 307. Of course, he didn't buy the two 307 at once. Whatever that transpired between him and the first one, must have made him get the 2nd. Both are his daily driver (utility cars) for years we are neighbors. The interesting thing is, he has never for once approached me to complain of any issue regarding those his two lions and seeking for solutions, as privilege he has having a Peugeot specialist as a neighbor for some free services or advice. None of the two 307 has ever been towed out or towed in. Yet everyday, he drives out and drives in from work, in whichever of the 2 he chooses.

Around March 2020, I needed to travel to Kaduna to inspect and possibly purchase a lion for a client. I had to go by public transport, considering I was expecting to drive the car back to Abuja, if the car checks out to my expectation and that of the client. So I entered Peugeot 307 Stick-shift with TU5JP4 for the journey as a passenger. The driver added N3,000 petrol (about 20liters at the time) before the 240 km journey fully started (which lasted for about 2.5 hours or so). The check engine light was on and average speed was about 110km/h. When we arrived Kaduna city, I checked the fuel gauge and the needle shifted just a little from where it was before we left the fuel station, indicating the fuel consumption on the entire journey was less than 10 liters, even with the check engine light on (indication that there was an injection, ignition or emission issue that would increase the fuel consumption from the normal), yet the car could still consume that low. I am not a fuel economy person and never was. But I couldn't help but respect a Vehicle that proved what the manufacturer (Peugeot) claimed about his fuel efficiency.

This woman years ago bought a Tokunbo Peugeot 307 Auto with EW10J4 and sought for my advice on how to keep the car in good condition for years ahead. Years passed and each time I saw or drove the car, he was still as good as I met him the very first time. According to the woman/owner, the car never gave her the cause to tamper any system, even as she was traveling with the car often. She was giving the car what he needed and the car was giving her back what she wanted from him and both were happy.

Another woman came this afternoon to purchase new OEM thermostat I had for sale (luckily for her, I had only one left). She needed it for her Peugeot 307 Auto with TU5JP4, after she found my past activities/words on Nairaland concerning thermostat removal and consequences. Her thermostat was removed by a Peugeot dealership (name withheld) here in Abuja because it's "not useful to the engine" according to dealership technician. As if that was not enough, they tampered and messed up wiring connections to the upstream oxygen sensor in the engine bay, to the point that they were afraid to reconnect the sensor for fear of blowing something up, for they didn't trust the connections they did and left the sensor disconnected, according to her and her husband. And when I checked the wrong wiring connections they did on that sensor, the dealership technician was right. If they had reconnected the sensor, it would have first blew up the Engine ECU, followed by BSM. I reversed/corrected the crappy dangerous connections to the sensor, installed the new OEM thermostat and systems started working well again, including the oxygen sensor that was condemned. She was excited that she wouldn't need to spend about 50k or so sourcing for new OEM upstream oxygen sensor anymore. I was thinking in my mind the worst that she would have faced if someone had reconnected the sensor mistakenly with that terrible wrong connection done at Peugeot dealership, a dealership that removes engine cooling system thermostat like average local Nigerian mechanics. According to the owner, this car has only been driven few months in Nigeria and was suddenly sentenced to early grave few days ago by a Nigerian Peugeot Dealership. Now I have given her advise/education to apply in maintenance of her Peugeot 307, if she truly wants to experience years of trouble-free ownership, just like the earlier woman and many others.

There is no denying that most Peugeot mechanics and some owners of Peugeot 307 in Nigeria abuse these vehicles, mercilessly. You need to have a glimpse of some of the things I encounter while searching and inspecting lions for clients. But fact still remain that Peugeot 307 is one of the best dependable and durable car with Lion logo, considering many owners I know enjoying theirs for years and still wanting to buy more or change to another one, irrespective of the abused ones found in a every nook and cranny in Nigeria with "For Sale" signs. I know a lot of Peugeot 307 users enjoying their lions which I have never touched or repaired their lions. Meaning, even without a specialist advise, they chose not to abuse their lions just like my neighbor is doing. Mechanics contribute to abuse or killing of Peugeot 307 in Nigeria, but they didn't hold you at gun point to not walk away and find better solutions, just like the 2nd 307 woman did this afternoon. Even if they kill one part of your Car system today, why keep going back to same place to have the remaining parts of the vehicle to be destroyed, waiting for the day you go online and offline and start complaining how problematic and horrible Peugeot 307 are, to whoever cares to listen?

The 307 is already an old car (about 3 successors so far). But still has need he provides to some individuals and families. And 307 was not even the fastest hatchback in his era, but was a fantastic dependable utility car and fun car as well (still remember the day I test drove the Feline version). Sure, he has his weaknesses just like every other car has. He had few issues earlier ones had which were sorted out eventually. And there are a lot of tips on how to prevent unecessary issues from coming up in the first place in these 307s.

These Nigerians who don't encounter all these nightmares that some people bitch about on Peugeot 307, have you ever bothered to ask yourself why your own experience sucks and what to do about it?

Lion King - Monk.

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by weyreypey: 11:19pm On Jan 30, 2021
Yawns

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by xperiencelove(m): 1:59am On Jan 31, 2021
The CSO of my work place is using this 307. The car has over 690,000km on it and still travels to anywhere.

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by kayswag100(m): 8:14am On Jan 31, 2021
xperiencelove:
The CSO of my work place is using this 307. The car has over 690,000km on it and still travels to anywhere.

690k! Whao! Kudos to your CSO

...and i thought my 4-month old Toks 407 (2006) was too high @ 204k

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by Ikenna351(m): 3:00pm On Jan 31, 2021
From a User in The Lion Community.

Lion King - Monk.

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by Elsueno: 5:17pm On Jan 31, 2021
307 is the reason I love Peugeot. That car loyal die. I still have mine. I don't think I will ever sell that car even if I become richer than Elon musk

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by ifytrik(m): 5:57pm On Jan 31, 2021
@ikenna what about peugeot 406? Would you advice a first timer to buy it? Is the maintenance pocket friendly?
Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by MOTIONTECH(m): 6:04pm On Jan 31, 2021
The car too ugly thats the only reason i dont like it.
Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by Ikenna351(m): 8:45pm On Jan 31, 2021
And another user from The Lion Community.

Lion King - Monk.

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by dovee69: 9:06pm On Jan 31, 2021
I regretted changing my 307 engine. The car has bn jerking is even worst if I on the air-conditioning
Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by naijadrivablog: 6:41am On Feb 02, 2021
Pijo? I will pass...*whistles *

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by aAK1(m): 2:29pm On Feb 02, 2021
I’ve blown trough 2 tu5jp4’s. I want to try the ew10 version now
Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by sexyto(m): 6:14pm On Feb 03, 2021
Ikenna351:
And another user from The Lion Community.
Lion King - Monk.
Is the 308 as durable?
Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by Ikenna351(m): 1:36am On Feb 07, 2021
sexyto:

Is the 308 as durable?

Every Peugeot vehicle is as durable as the owner wants him to be for him/her.

If you choose to buy severe abused lion because they are cheaper than non-abused ones or because you don't want to pay and engage a Peugeot specialist/expert in Pre-purchase inspections before purchasing a vehicle you have zero clue on how to detect nightmares put in the vehicle by previous user, don't expect the car to be durable for you.

If you choose to buy a clean non abused lion and end up abusing the lion, don't expect him to be durable for you.

You create your own reality with your choices.

Lion King - Monk.

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by sexyto(m): 1:28pm On Feb 07, 2021
You create your own reality with your choices.

Lion King - Monk.

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Well you have not really answered the question like you did the 307,maybe you did have a first hand experience with it, I know all about with you said I was expecting specifics.

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by sexyto(m): 1:29pm On Feb 07, 2021
Ikenna351:


Every Peugeot vehicle is as durable as the owner wants him to be for him/her.

If you choose to buy severe abused lion because they are cheaper than non-abused ones or because you don't want to pay and engage a Peugeot specialist/expert in Pre-purchase inspections before purchasing a vehicle you have zero clue on how to detect nightmares put in the vehicle by previous user, don't expect the car to be durable for you.

If you choose to buy a clean non abused lion and end up abusing the lion, don't expect him to be durable for you.

You create your own reality with your choices.

Lion King - Monk.

I was expecting specifics.

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by Ikenna351(m): 4:47pm On Feb 11, 2021
I picked up a non-abused well maintained Nigerian used Peugeot 307 Estate Stick-Shift with TU5JP4 Engine for a client this morning at good price. Even at over 300,000 km mileage, the lion has no Electrical & Mechanical abuse, even though the lion was bought new and used by previous owner for years, apart normal wear and tear. Of course, there are few repairs/replacements that need attention, mostly preventative maintenance repairs.

It pays not to abuse Lions and also pays not to buy abused one.

Lion King - Monk.

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by emmancecute(m): 6:06pm On Feb 11, 2021
ifytrik:
@ikenna what about peugeot 406? Would you advice a first timer to buy it? Is the maintenance pocket friendly?
very reliable ride if you buy a non abused one
Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by febo15(m): 5:54am On Apr 08, 2021
Ikenna351:
I picked up a non-abused well maintained Nigerian used Peugeot 307 Estate Stick-Shift with TU5JP4 Engine for a client this morning at good price. Even at over 300,000 km mileage, the lion has no Electrical & Mechanical abuse, even though the lion was bought new and used by previous owner for years, apart normal wear and tear. Of course, there are few repairs/replacements that need attention, mostly preventative maintenance repairs.

It pays not to abuse Lions and also pays not to buy abused one.

Lion King - Monk.
Good morning Sir
I have watched your videos several times on YouTube about 406, but my question is, it normal for a check engine light to always appear on the dashboard?
Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by emmancecute(m): 3:53pm On Apr 08, 2021
febo15:
Good morning Sir
I have watched your videos several times on YouTube about 406, but my question is, it normal for a check engine light to always appear on the dashboard?
not normal, plug in a scan tool to be sure of the issue.
Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by febo15(m): 8:11pm On Apr 08, 2021
emmancecute:
not normal, plug in a scan tool to be sure of the issue.
thank you very much Sir. I appreciate
Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by greatbrian(m): 9:41pm On Apr 08, 2021
weyreypey:
Yawns

grin

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by ArticleBeast: 8:43am On Apr 10, 2021
I watch your videos and follow your page on Fb. I am thinking of purchasing a naija used 307 automatic but scared of purchasing a lemon. Do you have an idea of the average price of a Naija used 307 automatic? Do you have any for sale?
Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by Kewtt: 11:15am On Apr 10, 2021
ArticleBeast:
I watch your videos and follow your page on Fb. I am thinking of purchasing a naija used 307 automatic but scared of purchasing a lemon. Do you have an idea of the average price of a Naija used 307 automatic? Do you have any for sale?

Do something better with your money. Buy a Toyota Sequoia instead. You'll thank me later

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by ArticleBeast: 12:21pm On Apr 10, 2021
Kewtt:


Do something better with your money. Buy a Toyota Sequoia instead. You'll thank me later
Really, any personal experience with the car?
Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by emmancecute(m): 7:41am On Apr 11, 2021
ArticleBeast:

Really, any personal experience with the car?
The 307 is a reliable car if you get one that as not been abused.
Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by Kewtt: 8:45am On Apr 11, 2021
emmancecute:
The 307 is a reliable car if you get one that has not been abused.

Which is like a needle in a haystack

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by ogedalisi: 4:00pm On Jun 02, 2021
Please I need ur advice urgently, I want to purchase a used Peugeot 307 2005 model Diesel engine but the gearbox is bad….Can I get a better one? So I can buy it from a friend
Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by Zonto231(m): 3:09pm On Jun 03, 2021
Please do you know any good and reliable Peugeot mechanic here in Abuja
Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by BushDoctor123: 12:21am On Jun 04, 2021
One of the plugs in my Peugeot 307 car is dead resulting to loss of torque. I changed the plug the problem still persisted. The coil connecting the plugs was tested by one "kasim" mechanic (I had no option because I traveled down to the village and had no access to a competent hand) I was told one of the coil was not supplying enough current to the particular plug. I was advised to buy the complete coil and it will be over. Please experts in the house, your advice is urgently needed. Below is the picture of the coil removed.

Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by Patrick33(m): 9:10am On Jun 04, 2021
What about the 407 2005-2008 models...are they any good?

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Re: The Problematic Peugeot 307 by zabimaru: 12:01pm On Jun 05, 2021
BushDoctor123:
One of the plugs in my Peugeot 307 car is dead resulting to loss of torque. I changed the plug the problem still persisted. The coil connecting the plugs was tested by one "kasim" mechanic (I had no option because I traveled down to the village and had no access to a competent hand) I was told one of the coil was not supplying enough current to the particular plug. I was advised to buy the complete coil and it will be over. Please experts in the house, your advice is urgently needed. Below is the picture of the coil removed.
one of the major challenges with following your dreams and not the herd.
Next time, travel with your mechanic and if you are going to spend some time there, pack enough random parts.

Over to you Lion King

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