Now, I am not a Catholic and like most well read Catholics. I am not proud of some of the past deeds of the Western Catholic Church especially the Vatican but there is something that they do that that is their priests that I always encourage many other denominational Christians especially the young ones to really not just get immersed in fellowship alone but also study Church History, Church Theology, Philosophy, Logic so JWs, Islamists and clowns like Kilonshele101, etcetera who tell lies against the true Jesus Christ don't succeed with their lies.

Although, Philosophy, Logic should be balanced on the foundation of Spirit Walk with the Holy Spirit of God so mistakes like some made by the Vatican in the past can be avoided. I love the response of this Catholic Priest to one of these "Mind your Business" clown who always want evil to be covered and never be criticised under the guise of the most misquoted Bible verse of that shall not judge why these clowns reject every other words of Jesus Christ.

Nigerian Catholic Missionary priest, Rev. Fr. Kelvin Ugwu has fired back at one of his followers who told him to stop denigrating people who participate in the Silhouette Challenge.

Recall that Fr. Ugwu had earlier described the viral Silhouette Challenge as immoral. You can Google that up.

In response to the priest's post, one ,commenter,Frank Nna Agudiegwu said that the human body is an astonishing work of nature and Fr Ugwu has no right to dictate to people how to showcase their bodies.


Posting a screenshot of the comment, Fr. Ugwu described it as "a progression in contradictions" adding that Agudiegwu has failed to take his own advice...by minding his business. The priest wrote;



"It is because of comment like this that I usually encourage people to at least take a course in philosophy, particularly logic or epistemology. It is not wonderful that you make a comment and it is filled with contradictions," the priest wrote.



Frank Nna Agudiegwu, every line in your comment is a progression in contradictions.
Let me show you what I mean.
~~"Why can't people mind their business?"



Answer: If you start minding your business you will not have time to wonder why people cannot mind their business. Now that you cannot mind your own business, do you still want to know why people can't mind their business? The reason you cannot mind your business, might be the reason they too cannot mind their business.



~~"You have no right to dictate or denigrate anyone in whichever way they decide to showcase their bodies."



Agreed, I do not have a right. But do you have a right to dictate for me what I should dictate and not dictate? Why tell me that I don't have right to dictate when you are here dictating? Can you now see that even you cannot take your own advice?



~~"Human body is an astonishing work of nature and we should be proud of it."
And the way or ways to be proud of the human body is through porn videos presented as silhouette to the public? If your definition of being proud of the body by being naked online is sensible to you, why are you not taking your own advice, why are you fully clothed even in your DP with cap and even beads? Why are you not proud of your body in the same way you are suggesting to others?



~~"Those who see this as wrong or the silhouette play are terrible people hanging on religious rope."



Because of our choice to see it as wrong, automatically you have judged us to be terrible people. Because of your choice to see it as right, you probably may think yourself as a wonderful person.



But if we judge the "silhouette play" as wrong.
And you judge us who judge it to be wrong as wrong, or in your words "terrible people," what is the difference between us?



If we are terrible people because we called an action, not the human person, wrong. . . now using the same logic, what shall we call you who have judged not our actions but our persons and even condemned us as terrible people?



We are hanging on religious rope, agreed!. . . Are you hanging on irreligious chain?
~~"They are the ones that need help"
Be sincere to yourself, who really needs help
Is it me or



You that dictate for people while telling them not to dictate for others, you that to be proud of the body is to go naked online but you are fully dressed contradicting what you teach, you that have not been able to take your advice of minding your business. . . Are these not enough signs of one who is confused, saying what he cannot do himself?



You that will condemn the human person because he said something you don't agree with or me that will condemn the action and still respect the human person
Frank, who really needs help? Be frank to yourself and get this right. Who really needs help?

Hmm

PervertProphet:
Now, I am not a Catholic and like most well read Catholics. I am not proud of some of the past deeds of the Western Catholic Church especially the Vatican but there is something that they do that that is their priests that I always encourage many other denominational Christians especially the young ones to really not just get immersed in fellowship alone but also study Church History, Church Theology, Philosophy, Logic so JWs, Islamists and clowns like Kilonshele101, etcetera who tell lies against the true Jesus Christ don't succeed with their lies.

Although, Philosophy, Logic should be balanced on the foundation of Spirit Walk with the Holy Spirit of God so mistakes like some made by the Vatican in the past can be avoided. I love the response of this Catholic Priest to one of these "Mind your Business" clown who always want evil to be covered and never be criticised under the guise of the most misquoted Bible verse of that shall not judge why these clowns reject every other words of Jesus Christ.

Nigerian Catholic Missionary priest, Rev. Fr. Kelvin Ugwu has fired back at one of his followers who told him to stop denigrating people who participate in the Silhouette Challenge.

Recall that Fr. Ugwu had earlier described the viral Silhouette Challenge as immoral. You can Google that up.

In response to the priest's post, one ,commenter,Frank Nna Agudiegwu said that the human body is an astonishing work of nature and Fr Ugwu has no right to dictate to people how to showcase their bodies.


Posting a screenshot of the comment, Fr. Ugwu described it as "a progression in contradictions" adding that Agudiegwu has failed to take his own advice...by minding his business. The priest wrote;
....
"It is
You that dictate for people while telling them not to dictate for others, you that to be proud of the body is to go naked online but you are fully dressed contradicting what you teach, you that have not been able to take your advice of minding your business. . . Are these not enough signs of one who is confused, saying what he cannot do himself?

You that will condemn the human person because he said something you don't agree with or me that will condemn the action and still respect the human person
Frank, who really needs help? Be frank to yourself and get this right. Who really needs help?

I am afraid your priest is in the wrong here. This is not really about minding one's business but instead respecting the CHOICES that others make for their on selves just as you except them to respect the choices you make in your own life.
You may not necessarily agree with their choices but one thing you certainly do not have is the right to dictate how any single human being can or cannot live, that right belongs to God.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid your priest is in the wrong here. This is not really about minding one's business but instead respecting the CHOICES that others make for their on selves just as you except them to respect the choices you make in your own life.
You may not necessarily agree with their choices but one thing you certainly do not have is the right to dictate how any single human being can or cannot live, that right belongs to God.

He never dictated, he only condemned the action. He cannot force the people not to participate in it but as a priest, he is meant to condemn evil and not the person. Minding ones business is why the world is as rotten as it's now. We must learn to speak out against evil at least for the sake of our young upcoming children... If we all keep quite, who will correct the anomalies in the society.
The priest is only doing his job by being the light of the world shinning the light of the truth to dispel the evil works done in the dark by those who have sold their souls to the devil. We must learn to speak against evil, irrespective of what people may deem as civilization.

ststyreal:

He never dictated, he only condemned the action. He cannot force the people not to participate in it but as a priest, he is meant to condemn evil and not the person. Minding ones business is why the world is as rotten as it's now. We must learn to speak out against evil at least for the sake of our young upcoming children... If we all keep quiet, who will correct the anomalies in the society?
The priest is only doing his job by being the light of the world shinning the light of the truth to dispel the evil works done in the dark by those who have sold their souls to the devil. We must learn to speak against evil, irrespective of what people may deem as civilization.

um....when your priest authoritatively uses his office to condemn a choice, suggesting instead that his idea/choice/method is the right one, what he is doing is dictating.

Jesus Christ never asked any of His disciples to set themselves up as authorities over anyone - He certainly warned them against teaching doctrines and rules that have nothing to do with that which He taught to them. And we all know that Jesus Christ never dictated any dress codes to His followers.

Jesus Christ never sent any of His followers out to condemn evil or set themselves up as judges of character and behaviour as far as society and His flock is concerned. He sent them out to preach the gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven, and absolutely no other doctrines or rules.

I don't know where the responsibilities of your priests come from but in this case, this has nothing to do with Jesus Christ or God. And as far as society is concerned, no one is in the right dictating to others as they do. So, yes, your priests should learn to respect the choices of those who do not subscribe to their views in society.

Just look at how the priest who says that "the human body is an astonishing work in nature" in support of #SilhouetteChallenge dressed up.

It should speak for itself.

jesusjnr2020:
Just look at how the priest who says that the human body is an astonishing work in nature in support of #SilhouetteChallenge dressed up.

It should speak for itself.

Settle down and read properly.

It's not a must to comment

DonEd:


Settle down and read properly.

It's not a must to comment

It appears you didn't follow your advise when reading mine.

Try and practice what you preach next time.

Kobojunkie:
um....when your priest authoritatively uses his office to condemn a choice, suggesting instead that his idea/choice/method is the right one, what he is doing is dictating.

Jesus Christ never asked any of His disciples to set themselves up as authorities over anyone - He certainly warned them against teaching doctrines and rules that have nothing to do with that which He taught to them. And we all know that Jesus Christ never dictated any dress codes to His followers.

Jesus Christ never sent any of His followers out to condemn evil or set themselves up as judges of character and behaviour as far as society and His flock is concerned. He sent them out to preach the gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven, and absolutely no other doctrines or rules.

I don't know where the responsibilities of your priests come from but in this case, this has nothing to do with Jesus Christ or God. And as far as society is concerned, no one is in the right dictating to others as they do. So, yes, your priests should learn to respect the choices of those who do not subscribe to their views in society.

I personally as a woman conderm that nonsense challenge, how much more a priest... In the face of evil, when the children of God keep quiet, then the evil thrives.
Wo, what is bad is bad, and the priest has spoken just like Pilate washed his hands off Jesus case but couldn't force the people not to carry out their wishes, so the priest in his priestly responsibility has spoken.
Peace

ststyreal:

I personally as a woman conderm that nonsense challenge, how much more a priest... In the face of evil, when the children of God keep quiet, then the evil thrives.
Wo, what is bad is bad, and the priest has spoken just like Pilate washed his hands off Jesus case but couldn't force the people not to carry out their wishes, so the priest in his priestly responsibility has spoken.
Peace

You have an opinion of it, and all you can do is air that opinion as an individual. Your priest here has taken to airing his opinion as if a commandment from God and we know from the Bible that God never taught His disciples to preach on any such matter.

Did you know that as a follower of Jesus Christ, you have no right to invoke the name of God when condemning those who you do not agree with in things that have nothing to do with that which God has commanded?

Also realise that what your priest has done is in direct disobedience to the very commandment of God by whose authority he, the priest, pretends to speak.

Remember that when Jesus Christ was on earth, He lived among the sinners- and the pagans. He did not go around condemning their actions and their lifestyles - He certainly did no such thing. So, your priests, pretending he can invoke the name of God when condemning those who have chosen an alternative lifestyle, is in the wrong as far as the teachings of Jesus Christ is concerned.

One very very important rule as far as God's commandments is concerned is this, DO NOT ADD AND DO NOT REMOVE..

If God did not command it, do not then greate one to add to His commandments - thinking yourself equal to God by doing so.

Jesus Christ declared that only those who become like children, even in their thinking, will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, and one thing children are is open-minded .i.e. Not quick to condemn those who do not see the world through the same goggles as they do.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid your priest is in the wrong here. This is not really about minding one's business but instead respecting the CHOICES that others make for their on selves just as you except them to respect the choices you make in your own life.
You may not necessarily agree with their choices but one thing you certainly do not have is the right to dictate how any single human being can or cannot live, that right belongs to God.

You completely missed the priest main argument or the reason for his response.

If you had seen it, you would have known why the op created this thread

I advise you read again

triplechoice:

You completely missed the priest main argument or the reason for his response.

If you had seen it, you would have known why the op created this thread

I advise you read again

what isit that you think I missed of your priest's "main argument"?

Kobojunkie:
what isit that you think I missed of your priest's "main argument"?

I am not a Christian, he is not my priest and I still stand by what I previously said.

The person who created this thread did so for a reason. Look for that and you would get it.

triplechoice:

I am not a Christian, he is not my priest and I still stand by what I previously said.

The person who created this thread did so for a reason. Look for that and you would get it.

Again....

Kobojunkie:
what isit that you think I missed of your priest's "main argument"?

Kobojunkie:
Again....

No. Never going to tell you. I expected it should be obvious to you.

If you don't want to see it yourself by reading again, then let's forget it and sorry I have to bother you

Kobojunkie:
You have an opinion of it, and all you can do is air that opinion as an individual. Your priest here has taken to airing his opinion as if a commandment from God and we know from the Bible that God never taught His disciples to preach on any such matter.

Did you know that as a follower of Jesus Christ, you have no right to invoke the name of God when condemning those who you do not agree with in things that have nothing to do with that which God has commanded?

Also realise that what your priest has done is in direct disobedience to the very commandment of God by whose authority he, the priest, pretends to speak.

Remember that when Jesus Christ was on earth, He lived among the sinners- and the pagans. He did not go around condemning their actions and their lifestyles - He certainly did no such thing. So, your priests, pretending he can invoke the name of God when condemning those who have chosen an alternative lifestyle, is in the wrong as far as the teachings of Jesus Christ is concerned.

One very very important rule as far as God's commandments is concerned is this, DO NOT ADD AND DO NOT REMOVE..

If God did not command it, do not then greate one to add to His commandments - thinking yourself equal to God by doing so.

Jesus Christ declared that only those who become like children, even in their thinking, will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, and one thing children are is open-minded .i.e. Not quick to condemn those who do not see the world through the same goggles as they do.

All these your long Epistles of saying what Jesus never said or said.

Can you do us a favour as the Jesus spokesman that you have suddenly taken up as a role and cite Biblical verses that buttress your points. All I see are a bunch of your own opinions with no Bible verses to back your claims up. Jesus said, Jesus said. Where are the proofs?

1 Corinthians 2:14-16 KJV — But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

The priest should mind his biz.

Because the church cant even handle criticism, yet they always criticize odas.

PervertProphet:

All these your long Epistles of saying what Jesus never said or said.

Can you do us a favour as the Jesus spokesman that you have suddenly taken up as a role and cite Biblical verses that buttress your points. All I see are a bunch of your own opinions with no Bible verses to back your claims up. Jesus said, Jesus said. Where are the proofs?

1 Corinthians 2:14-16 KJV — But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

The record of the words of Jesus Christ while He was here on earth are not found in the epistles but in the 4 Gospels(Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) so I suggest you look there in the Gospels for the commandments as set by Jesus Christ Himself .

I have yet to submit my opinion on this matter, and believe me I have them but since as a follower of Jesus Christ, I am not allowed to sell them as if they are God's own opinion, I keep them to myself since what these people do has no direct impact on the gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven and what Jesus Christ set for those who follow Him to focus on.